Mori for Mac1.6.13j28

It was sad day when Hogbay notebook changed from a text organizer to an outliner. It was a sad day when notebook was discontinued and Mori was introduced with a different file format. It was a sad day when Mori was sold to another developer. It was a sad day Mori didn't get developed much. It was a sad day when Mori ceased to exist. It is a sad day that no other app comes close to what was Hogbay notebook version 2! Idiots!

Link to the developer's site is not working any more (Error 404!) Bought this a long time ago and loved it. RIP.

The developer recently posted the following message in his own support forum: I don't have a Mac compatible with Lion these days (actually, I don't even have a Mac), so I can't test and debug compatibility problems directly. I have to rely on the reports I get from users. That process is less than optimal. So I've reworked Mori's internals and hope that the cause has been eliminated. While I can't guarantee the new 1.6.13 release actually works well under Lion, it's reworked views does offer a distinct advantage to users: the ability to see outlines graphically and drag and drop entries from this tree view to other apps.

$99.95 Really ??? Scrivener is less than half this price and five or six stars above it.

I used Mori years ago, but after the change in ownership I moved on. There were lots of promises that were never kept. Anyway I started putting action notes in OmniOutliner Pro, articles in DEVONthink Pro, info scraps in Notational Velocity, and private info in 1Password. I find stuff with Tembo and HoudahSpot. I recently started using Day One for a diary. You might want to check out Scrivener.

This product category doesn't stand still, especially not with Evernote driving the bus. So it's a shame to see software like this sit so long with no updates. (I'm looking at you, too, MyNotes...) On the other hand, I own Clockwork, by the same dev as Mori, and although it hasn't been updated in nearly 3 years, it's a piece of software I use DAILY, and I'm not sure what I'd do without it.

I used Mori for a long time. But I have dropped Mori now. Instead I will continue with MacJournal.

I really like Mori - it's as close to the Windows app "MyInfo" as I could find. I use(d) MyInfo for years to hold all my various info (many, many, many websites), when I switched to Mac, I needed a replacement - Mori was it. In fact, I think it was the first Mac app I bought (back when it was still Hog Bay's). But the new developer hasn't done squat other than announce that the upcoming (whenever that is) "Pro" version will be 200 freakin' dollars. Meanwhile there are all these great new to-do apps and calendar apps and so on and so forth. DevonThink rolled out a 2.0 version of their product. Mori remains stuck in the mud. Evernote covers a lot of the ground Mori did as well - I just don't want to put critical data out there on it. If the Apokalypse doesn't want to work on Mori - fine - but find someone who does and sell it to them at least. Mori is a great app ... but there is zero developer support or development on it now, and this has been the case for at least six months. Buyer Beware.

The developer recently posted the following message in his own support forum (http://apokalypsesoftware.com/products/node/2762): >>What I'd like to see is more representation in other forums. I've only been able to get a few sites to cover updates and the stuff Apokalypse is doing. I'd like to have you guys requesting more coverage by the likes of MacDailyNews, MacRumors, MacNN, AppleInsider, or whatever sites you frequent for Mac news. Competitors get covered. Mori should too!

I bought Hog Bay Notebook and I really liked its successor Mori, but after several months under new ownership alas there is no significant new development and bugs are not fixed for months. Now I started to look for alternatives and Together seems very promising. Don't overlook the Library Manager in Together, it gives you Mori's multi document feature back.

It's been 9 months since the original developer handed this program over to another guy (after losing interest in it and moving on to projects like WriteRoom). Not much has happened since then: Apokalypse Software, as the new guy calls his business, has released a slew of rambling blog posts and a few minor bug fixes, but every one of these bug fixes introduced new bugs that had to be fixed in subsequent updates, and so on. Not very professional. There have been no new features since 2006, and worse, Mori has serious performance issues under Leopard. (It beachballs every few seconds when I try to type a note in a 20 MB database.) There are many programs in this price range that work better and are made by people who know what they're doing (EagleFiler, DevonThink, Yoyimbo etc.). Or you could buy DevonNote which is very similar to Mori - and much faster - but only costs $20. I have been using Mori (and its predecessor, Hog Bay Notebook) for years, but it's time to move my data out of it.

I don't see where the value is here for $40. It's a nice application-solid and stable even but the cost far exceeds the feature-set or the pace of development. Sorry to be so blunt but there are far better choices out there...Yojimbo, Devon and even SOHO Notes come to mind.

After some moths using mori, it is one of my favorites. I have all my ideas, proyects, articles, manuals, etc in mori and besides you can store web articles, photos, etc. It is one of the best pieces of soft that you can have and even it look to be a little expensive, it is cheap in fact, cause i have millions of articles in there and the program still works perfectly. Even if you do not think so the first time you installed mori, it is better that you can think, it is really good, seriously.

1.6.9 works.

I'm running 10.4.11 and I can't open my notebooks--just get a blank window. Older versions can be found at: http://apokalypsesoftware.com/products/mori/releasenotes

He did it again, I'm afraid ! This version can't open my Mori files ; I just get a totally blank window. I stick to 1.6.4.

Earlier I posted a warning to keep a copy of 1.6.3. With 1.6.7 notebooks now open as expected--on 10.4.10

"Apokalypse"! Yes, that's what it is! Thanks Jesse...

Be sure to keep a backup of your previous application (1.6.4 or prior) Using Mac OS 10.4.10 on a MacBook Pro, I'm unable to open any of my prior notebooks with version 1.6.5. Luckily I had a zipped copy of 1.6.3 that I could revert to.

Mori looks good but one thing that I don't like is the search. For example I have "brownies" in one of my text file. I type "brown" and I have no results, I type "brownies" and I get my result. Ok if I type "brown*" I will have my result, but I don't like this way of working.

I´d rather to have all my notes in one place without save any documents, it is the different because one notepad program and word, openoffice, bean or just text files or Voodoo (free) anyway I like Mori and i was going to buy it, but 39$ is too much in my oppinion

So after a complete debacle where the developer destroys the development line of the best notebook application. He then starts again to make a complete mess of an app. He doesn't work on it for a year, then sells it ? Where are all the paid users in all this - *ucked is where.

Mori complains that the included doc "Getting Started.mori" is the wrong format.

This is a great app to organize notes. It's got a great interface a has good keyboard shortcuts once you learn them. It's simple enough to use and organize notes within it, and it allows spotlight searching and easy linking to files on your computer. There are so many to do / notepad apps that go overboard with getting things done, tagging, and convoluted interfaces. This one gets it right. I don't want to work to be organized. I just want to *be* organized. This lets me do it. Very mac like. It's a bit expensive compared to some competitors, but if it fits your need it's worth every penny.

Best of class notebook app. Seems simple on the surface, but there's lots of depth there that really puts it above the competition.

Don’t miss this great deal on Mori, easily some the most ingenious and useful software ever made for Mac computers. Continual upgrades at users requests, and top-notch support help make this app hot. I paid the full price a few months ago, and Mori has since become my most used 3rd party app. If you try it, I’ll bet you’ll wonder how you ever lived without this one.

License keys will be sent out Saturday morning after the sale is over. Thanks for your interest. - Jesse Grosjean, Hog Bay Software

I own Omnioutliner Pro, Mori, Yojimbo, SOHO Notes, Devonthink... I read quite a few books for my work and I use Mori for taking notes and retrieving information. I use Omnioutliner for my writing projects and personal&- and professionnal projects. For storing data, I'm trying hard to use DevonThink but I find it difficult to organize ; I lke the way Yojimbo and SOHO just sit there at the side of the screen. I know DThink is much better, but I just can't feel at ease with it.

The version number is still 1.2. Did you forget to update it in the app, or is the download link not up to date? (Or am I missing something...?)

I have tried quite a few info organizers and Mori beats them all. It doesn't lock you into one way of organizing, nor does it limit the types of info that you can organize with it. Also, unlike some other products I have tried, the developer is quite to respond to questions and participates in the user forums. Mori is fast and reliable and sells for a very reasonable price.

Interesting app. Looks like a more mature version of Journler (free). I have been looking at the default set of docs, but can't find any reference to what those "action items" are. Also, no info on creating "To Do's" and if Mori patches into iCal and Address Book. Not all of the links seem to be working in the default set of docs either, but I guess that is because this is a beta version?

At last MORI is a worthy replacement for HBN It is a terrific outliner and writing tool, and it's also a very usable database. Much nicer that StickyBrain whose organizational tools are not great. It's now got custom columns that make it incredibly powerful. And the way you can open multiple windows and float whichever ones you want mean that you can have to-do lists like stickies on your documents, and yet they are all part of grand plan kept out of sight. I'd reccomend it to anyone who needs to prganize their notes and todos. There are plug ins in development to make it even better for Getting Things Done if that matters to you. And it's wonderfully applescriptable. There are only two features left to implement (which I understand are due in the next version soon) and it'll be in my view the best all round location for organizing everything on your mac. One is being able to open attachments (pdfs, word files, images) in their original aps without first saving them to disk - or even more easily creating links to locations on the disk. The other is easier printing. I lied, I said two: syc with iCal would be great for the "next actions" part of to-do planning.

Mori gets confused ... its own database suddenly get mixed up with the result I'm searching for "Dog" and get an entry "Cat" which has nothing to do with "Dog". A Clone "Horse" I drag to a folder magically is turned to an entry named "Bird" (existing in another folder) ... and so on. Nothing I could rely on, though it has such a great potential. Not now. Needs work.

Downgrade no more! Mori now has all the most important features of the past and more: smart folders, multiple ways to link files, smaller file size with much quicker file copying. IMO, this is the best notepad app avaible.

It's a bold move to discontinue a popular application like Hog Bay Notebook and start from scratch. Mori has a lot of potential, but in its current state, it is a downgrade from HBN and a preview of things to come rather than a useful program. Some changes are for the better, some are for the worse. Let's start with the good stuff: - Jesse Grosjean, the developer, is probably the most responsive shareware developer on the planet. He has always been exceptionally open to suggestions and requests, and with Mori, he took his genuine interest in interacting with his users one step further: He set up a voting system on his website where you can submit feature requests, rate the suggestions of other users and directly influence the development of Mori. This is a great idea, and certainly something other developers can learn from. - Mori's featue-set is extensible. You can write a plugin if you have the skills and share it with others. - Mori has smart folders and supports Spotlight - a huge improvement over HBN. Now for the bad stuff: - The interface has become less customizable - no vertical split view, no folders drawer, no bookmarks list - and the Mail 2 interface (which I don't like at all) makes complex projects more difficult to navigate. - There are so many features missing that I don't know where to start. There's no point listing all the details that make HBN a better program when Mori doesn't even have basic features like printing. You can't export the contents of a folder as a single continuous file, there are almost no preferences you can set, etc. Granted, these features will be added over the next few months (and years?), but it's impossible to use this program without them. In summary, Mori is not ready to replace HBN. It's a technology preview, nothing more. I still give it five stars in the Value category because your license is valid for both Mori and the last release of HBN. That's a great deal: For $28, you get the best notebook/organizer money can buy and a new software project with a lot of potential on top of it.

Very odd I cannot access www.hogbaysoftware.com from China. When I was in Taiwan I can access without any problem. I think it is one of the 'blocks' that China government put on some of the sites. But why hogbay?? The only way to reach to the developer is, I guess, on this site. So is it another way around this, maybe a mirror site?

For the price this is a very good outliner. Would be perfect for me if I can get the todo/alarm/calendar ability into this software. I tried using HBN in meetings, and the speed, ease of use are very well done. I work in a production factory where we deal with small things that goes wrong from here and there. So it is important to be able to record down these 'little' issues and make sure a good solution is in place and monitor the execution. This is the part that a todo/alarm/calendar comes into play. For example, after typing a problem in the outline, I want to set this to be on a todo list, also set the alarm to remine myself to go check on this problem. A calendar will gather all these todos together for me in a complete view. Sounds like PIM? well, most PIM/todo (Entourage, Outlook, Life Balance, IMOnTime, etc) do well in their own field. At the moment I need to use 3 applications together to achieve what I want to do and very often it means re-typing the same issues in all 3 app. Very time consuming and problematic. I switch from Windows months ago, and there is only 1 application I found in Windows world that does this. "Info Select" from Micro Logic. Ugly looking app but did all the above nicely and quickly. I tried a dozen of outliner in the mac and Hog Bay Notebook seems to be the best one. I would recommend this to anyone who want a solid outliner software, and would be the replacement to Info Select for me; if it include the functions I mentioned above.

I can't praise Hog Bay Notebook enough. Having used many similiar products, HBN is a joy to use, easy to learn and a very capable database in which one can manage all manner of data. As if if this is not enough, the developer is very approachable and supportive. His approach is one of listening to his customers of whom he has a loyal following. suggestions by user to implement new features to improve HBN are encouraged by the developer. His Support forum is a very good source for HB software. On the horizon is a new Notebook, called Forest. I eagerly await news on this.

Awesome. I have now officially left version 2.3. The current version is really well thought out. I own OmniOutliner Pro and Circus Ponies NoteBook, but Hog Bay Notebook is the app I really enjoy to use and keep returning to. I try to support as many apps as I can because all these great apps need to be kept alive. But Hog Bay Notebook gets really high praise from me, not just because the product is wonderful, but because the developer has worked really hard to get to version 3.5 and is always working hard to make this app better for its users. I will keep supporting this developer.

. I would really like to see an ability to save notes to an iPod and/or a Palm device.

Excellent program - well-designed, lean and fast, with a deceptively simple interface and many, many nice details and options. HBN 2 was a smart, easy-to-use notebook, HBN 3 was a powerful but somewhat quirky outliner, but 3.5 combines the best of both versions and adds so many new features and interface enhancements that 4.0 would be a more appropriate version number. As a notebook program, HBN competes with dozens of others, but what makes it unique is that instead of trying to fill a niche in this crowded market, it integrates the functionality of outliners, notepads, text processors and file databases into one single, elegant application and leaves it up to you how you want to use it. You can have different notebooks for specific tasks, or use one single notebook for everything related to the project you're working on: Make a to-do list, jot down some ideas, collect information from web sites, use HBN's powerful search features to find keywords and their context, add links to files on your hard drive, start writing the sections of your essay or book, re-arrange them, split them, merge them, and if you're done, select the final chapters and export them to a single Word or RTF file. The possibilities are endless. Chances are that HBN will become the most used application on your computer. The interface is very flexible and customizable and makes it easy to navigate through huge collections of notes. I take one star off in the ease-of-use category because the shortcuts are not very intuitive and some features aren't self-explanatory. Other than that, it's first-class software. And a steal for $20.

Extremely useful I have licenses for Circus Ponies NoteBook, NoteTaker, OmniOutliner, Alepin, DevonThink and Hog Bay Notebook. They all have their uses, but as a CORE work tool Hog Bay Notebook is my choice. Since HBNB is in the beta stage, there are improvements on the way, but I highly recommend giving this application a trial run and participating in the user forum.

I was a 2.3 user who never liked version 3, but 3.5 is coming along nicely and I think I'm finally going to move to version 3 with this coming update. I am using the beta now and it is good, very good. It is a little different from 2.3 but it keeps a lot of version 2 functionality and interface and adds to it - I have to test it more to see how it compares to my 2.3 version, but the added functionality is great. Keep on the wonderful work and thank you so much for listening to your user base. I think Hog Book Notebook is wonderful and will remain my notebook/writing tool for years to come. It is the app I keep returning to.

Unlike many of the other reviewers I never used version 2. However, I can not function with out this application! It is absolutely perfect for taking notes. I no longer take a pad of paper with me to meetings. Just grab the powerbook and notebook and I am set. Great job!!!

I am so disappointed with Hog Bay 3. I loved version 2 for collecting, organizing and viewing my thousands of txt, rtf files. I don't want an outliner. I want the functions available in 2 with its clean, intuitive interface. I have Omni Outliner. I don't need another. If Hog Bay is going to go this route, then I second recommendations already made: split the product - Version 2 (Notebook) and Version 3 (Outliner with notebook functions).

This notebook app used to be unique. Now it is more like a OmniOutliner clone without the fancy options like import from Keynote or styling the column. It does however have an added feature like bookmarks, so if you have layers upon layers of outlines (notes), its usefulness becomes apparent. I like the wiki link feature a lot as well as the simplicity of it, so I will continue to watch out for this program.

Says Anonymous, on 3/18/2004: "Please undo this mistake and incorporate the outlining feature within the old concept and I will be fine and you will keep a customer. You can combine the old with the new by presenting the user with different NoteBook styles. ..... As long as you give me back the old, added with new functionality." I have to say I agree completely. Let me add that the jump to Panther is the main problem for this user. Like Anonymous, I want the fine features of Version 2 (just about everything!) in a new Jaguar version, along with any pluses and improvements the developer has come up with. But I don't want to have to move to Panther (still somewhat shaky, as I understand) even to evaluate whatever the new version is like. How about a divorce, Grosjeans? -- not for you, but for Hogbay2 and Hogbay 3, with separate lines of development for each? I'm sure the many fans of Version2 will support this wholeheartedly.

Yikes! Version 3 is totally different from version 2. How can this be? A new version shouldn't take a totally new approach. It should add to the old. It should enhance the existing concept. It should present the old and add it with cool new functionality. What if each version of iPhoto or iMovie would be totally different? That's not any good either! While many would embrace the new outliner-style NoteBook, I'm afraid this new version will scare off many of the people who fell in love with the clean, simple and intuitive version 2. Version 2 was like a dream come true. It presented me what I wanted, with folders and documents in a drawer. This is how my brain actually works! Organizing the stories I write, I could add ratings and labels. How intuitive! Hog Bay NoteBook was the best in its kind! Now it presents me a split-window outline view? I went away from this concept in the first place switching from OmniOutliner to NoteBook. Now NoteBook presents me OmniOutliner with extra functionality. Why not call it Hog Bay Outliner? While many new to Hog Bay NoteBook may embrace the new style, and many existing NoteBook fans may learn to appreciate the new interface, I'm less than thrilled! Yes, version 3 may be the best in its class in what it does, but that's not the point. I thought I could count on NoteBook forever, and that with each new version I would be presented with cool new stuff added to the old clean and masterfully crafted interface. Now, I have to look elsewhere if the version 2.3 which I use breaks down with a future system update (or maybe Mac OS 10.4). Please developer; I beg you, don't move yourself from your valued customers! Don't say to us: Just stick with what we bring you! Please undo this mistake and incorporate the outlining feature within the old concept and I will be fine and you will keep a customer. You can combine the old with the new by presenting the user with different NoteBook styles. Heck, I'll even pay you money for each version. As long as you give me back the old, added with new functionality. To those happy with the new approach, I'm happy for you. And I hope you will enjoy the new NoteBook. For me, I have to think about using it. (Oh, it's also no good if a new version doesn't open the previous version documents and that you have to import them from within the app instead. That's not intuitive. This is not what I liked about Hog Bay Software.) Okay, I may sound too negative to some, but it's my right to complain, and it's your right to love the new NoteBook.

HBN has been the smartest and most elegant notepad app available on the Mac since version 2, and version 3 offers even more value - now you get a full-grown outliner/text processor/database with great new features for collecting, arranging, and exporting stuff. If you count the features, version 3 is most definitely an improvement. However, all these enhancements make the interface more complex and distracting than the previous version, and for the first time, I found myself thinking more about the program itself than about the work I was trying to get done with it. The old interface was efficient, simple, and so well designed that you forgot that it was there the very moment you started to use it. Now you have to fiddle around with crowded menus, outlining lingo like "hoist" and "unhoist" and unintuitive shortcuts. That's not to say that HBN 3 is a regression; on the contrary. More than ever, HBN is the king of the hill, it's just that the king's crown and scepter are in a more baroque shape now. Which means more glamor, but less pleasure for fans of the "form follows function" style. $20 is a very humble price for the wealth of features you get, and if you are looking for a notebook app, this is your lucky day (take my word for it; I tried literally every notebook-like Mac program, from free to expensive). But the best thing is that the serial number you buy is valid for both the new and the previous version, so you can decide for yourself which version you prefer to use.

Hog Bay Notebook 3.0 requires system 10.3.

I've been using Hog Bay Notebook for about a month now. I use to use StickyBrain 2. Wow, what a difference! StickyBrain REALLY sucks! Hog Bay delivers on most of the promises that StickyBrain made but never delivered on. I can import web pages including graphics by simply selecting the web page and dragging it into a Hog Bay note. Very intuitive! Also, I can attach files directly into notes (I could never do that with StickyBrain and even tried to get help from StickyBrain tech support. Even with screen shots and proof that it wasn't working they wouldn't believe me!) Anyhow, Hog Bay is GREAT STUFF! It even appears to rival most of the functionality of OMNIOutliner. The Hog Bay developer seems very responsive and is working on version 3 of the product. Get this product!!! It's only 20 bucks, to boot.

This is a great piece of software. I've just paid for it but the application name has been reduced to "Notebook" and wants to replace (Circus Ponies) Notebook when I try to install it.

As a happy user of MacJournal, I was looking for some additional functionality, and found it with Hog Bay Notebook. Just to name a few: 1. Create subfolders (not only folders) - 2. WikiLinks to surf around in my personal notes (not only Weblinks) - 3. Use many notebooks for different projects (not only one). Well worth the money, friendly developer, one more happy customer.

Excellent app overall. Two wish-list items: 1. I realize that the app is rtf oriented, but it would be nice if the author were to provide a way to convert back and forth between ASCII text and rtf, and be able to set a default note type (text or rtf) in the preferences. Having all my data in plain text is very important to me. 2. Single-click on a file in the split view or outline opens the file in the lower split pane. Please allow an option for double-click to open the file in a new window (like CMD-O does). Small bug: When importing files, plain text files that do not have a .txt extension are not importable. Please remember that OSX is *nix based and most, if not all, plain text files do not use an extension in *nix systems.

I've been beta testing this for a few weeks now. It is amazing - it blows away everything else in the category. The developer is increadibly responsive to any suggestion that might improve the program. For me the search engine alone (which is similar to that used in Mail) is worth the price. Add wiki features, an outline, import and export of folder hierarchies, etc. and you have a killer app!!! One I'm sure will continue to get even better (there are even more features planned for the next release.)

Yes this was released a month ago. It was a small release and I didn't post it to this site, but i think they just noticed the change and updated it themselves. New version is getting ready for release soon. I'll post it here when ready. Jesse (Hog Bay Software)

Hog Bay is an RTF centric notepad application with a good UI and nice touches. Search rankings work well. I like how folders can have notes (and I believe that this is the only one that does this). The use of a visible highlight color on searches is a nice touch. Features an iTunes like rating system and Classic Finder like categories for entries both unique as well. Supports multiple notepads/scrapbooks. I feel that some things that are lacking in this version, such as the ability to add images to the notebook (as standalone images not part of the RTF text) and images can't be dropped into the notebook unless it's into an existing note. The lack of better image handling compared to other recently released programs means that Hog Bay is a bit more expensive then others in the same price range. Hopefully these issues will be addressed in future releases and this is a beta release after all. I had one crash with the program and the author is aware of the issue and has already fixed it, so I won't discount a star for that. A general comment: I find it interesting that this program category space is starting to spawn some excellent programs. For too long it has been a crowded space where the offerings have been on the weak side and one of the best was a (slow) freeware program (Macjournal). Now, these programs are getting fast, useful and worth paying the registration fee's. Programs such as Hog Bay are certainly raising the bar and I'm looking forward to future releases.

This is a great little application. Not only can I save all my notes and organize them in one location, but I can save photo clippings & sound files. This app behaves like a notebook & a scrapbook. Good-bye MS Word!

The best and gets better.

As written before -- by far the most intuitive of them all. You are up and working the same minute as your download is completed. Today I've spent half a day looking through most apps I could find in the "notepad" category, and it's clear that this one playes in a league of its own. I've been using everything from half a dozen PIMs to very complex business and sales tools, but never found the optimal app. But now I've settled for this one. Very easy to use indeed, yet it has all the power and functions when and if you need them. It's the app Apple should have created themselves to go along with Address Book and iCal. They never did - but now it's here anyhow... :-)

It's the perfect tool for taking notes. I've dumped Word for this process. I, too, have tried numerous notepads for X, and this one is by far the most intuitive.

My favorite notepad so far and I've tried them all. The advanced search and well designed interface set this one appart. This seems to be the ticket, no problems so far.