Adobe Creative Cloud
Adobe Creative Cloud
5.0.1.381

4.2

Adobe Creative Cloud free download for Mac

Adobe Creative Cloud

5.0.1.381
16 January 2020

Access Adobe apps from the cloud with a monthly fee.

Overview

Adobe Creative Cloud costs $20.99/month for a single app, or $52.99/month for the entire suite.

Introducing Adobe Creative Cloud desktop applications, including Adobe Photoshop CC and Illustrator CC. They're the next generation of CS tools. Get hundreds of all-new features. Keep your entire creative world in sync: files, feedback from team members, fonts, settings, and updates. And, as always, your applications live on your desktop, not in a browser and not in the cloud.

With Creative Cloud, your entire creative world is synced and organized for you across multiple devices. Track comments posted to shared files, keep tabs on your work and your followers on Behance, respond to invitations to join a project folder, manage your fonts, download the latest product updates, and more.

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91 Adobe Creative Cloud Reviews

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skybaisne
16 September 2019

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This is the most evil software I've ever seen that is not, strictly speaking, malware. It's spyware, bloatware, and adware. Spyware? On launch, it connects to about 40 hosts, including analytics company New Relic. Bloatware? Installing it downloads about 460 MB per computer. Adobe Application Manager, Adobe Creative Cloud, Adobe Creative Cloud Experience, and Adobe Sync (all in /Applications/Utilities) together take up 448 MB. This might be foregivable if the Mac had no good package installer, but Apple provides a quite decent package utility. But it's worse. Almost every time I launch Creative Cloud Desktop, it tells me an update is available, and all updates seem to be mandatory, so that's another 460 MB or so per computer. It puts updating my software on Adobe's schedule, not mine. When a new update is released, I selfishly wait a while to let others do the beta testing. That's especially true for Creative Cloud Desktop, which in the past had a bug that randomly deleted files. So say a new version of Photoshop is released. I wait a while, then launch Creative Cloud Desktop to update Photoshop. But I discover that Creative Cloud Desktop has just been updated, so I wait a while before risking downloading it. By then, Photoshop has been updated again and I'm back to the beginning. It's even worse. I wanted to uninstall an old version of Photoshop to free up some badly needed space. I ran Uninstall Adobe Photoshop CC 2017 and Creative Cloud Desktop launched! Of course with a mandatory update. I had to install new software to free up space. I might have been out in the field, with no Internet access, desperately needing space, and unable to uninstall an old version of Photoshop. Adware? Every time I launch Creative Cloud Desktop (when there's not a mandatory update), it's telling me about some wonderful new Adobe software or service of absolutely no interest to me. What I really want is just to download three packages (Photoshop, Bridge, Camera Raw), then use the Mac package utility to install them on all my computers. I download once on my schedule and install on my schedule. Creative Cloud Desktop launches automatically after installation or an update. If it contained any malware, the malware has already run. I want to install a package, scan the installed application for malware, and only then launch it. Finally, I have to log in to Creative Cloud Desktop, meaning I have to trust it to transport my credentials securely. If I don't trust Apple's TLS implementation in Safari, I can use a different browser, including an open source browser. With Adobe I have no choice. If I were younger and not hopelessly trapped in the Photoshop ecosystem, I'd be seriously looking at alternatives like GIMP, Skylum Luminar, or Capture One.
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Version 4.9.0.519
skybaisne
16 September 2019
This is the most evil software I've ever seen that is not, strictly speaking, malware. It's spyware, bloatware, and adware. Spyware? On launch, it connects to about 40 hosts, including analytics company New Relic. Bloatware? Installing it downloads about 460 MB per computer. Adobe Application Manager, Adobe Creative Cloud, Adobe Creative Cloud Experience, and Adobe Sync (all in /Applications/Utilities) together take up 448 MB. This might be foregivable if the Mac had no good package installer, but Apple provides a quite decent package utility. But it's worse. Almost every time I launch Creative Cloud Desktop, it tells me an update is available, and all updates seem to be mandatory, so that's another 460 MB or so per computer. It puts updating my software on Adobe's schedule, not mine. When a new update is released, I selfishly wait a while to let others do the beta testing. That's especially true for Creative Cloud Desktop, which in the past had a bug that randomly deleted files. So say a new version of Photoshop is released. I wait a while, then launch Creative Cloud Desktop to update Photoshop. But I discover that Creative Cloud Desktop has just been updated, so I wait a while before risking downloading it. By then, Photoshop has been updated again and I'm back to the beginning. It's even worse. I wanted to uninstall an old version of Photoshop to free up some badly needed space. I ran Uninstall Adobe Photoshop CC 2017 and Creative Cloud Desktop launched! Of course with a mandatory update. I had to install new software to free up space. I might have been out in the field, with no Internet access, desperately needing space, and unable to uninstall an old version of Photoshop. Adware? Every time I launch Creative Cloud Desktop (when there's not a mandatory update), it's telling me about some wonderful new Adobe software or service of absolutely no interest to me. What I really want is just to download three packages (Photoshop, Bridge, Camera Raw), then use the Mac package utility to install them on all my computers. I download once on my schedule and install on my schedule. Creative Cloud Desktop launches automatically after installation or an update. If it contained any malware, the malware has already run. I want to install a package, scan the installed application for malware, and only then launch it. Finally, I have to log in to Creative Cloud Desktop, meaning I have to trust it to transport my credentials securely. If I don't trust Apple's TLS implementation in Safari, I can use a different browser, including an open source browser. With Adobe I have no choice. If I were younger and not hopelessly trapped in the Photoshop ecosystem, I'd be seriously looking at alternatives like GIMP, Skylum Luminar, or Capture One.
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Version 4.9.0.519
Eric•Woehler
12 May 2019
The hate is based on the fact that once they have you and your files, you are locked into Adobe's parasitic bleeding - and what a surprise, the fees doubled overnight last week. Pay up or lose your work. Parasitic work practice - may be good for bottom line but not for thinking users, especially when Pixelmator (USD$30) offers features of Photoshop and Illustrator .
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Version 4.8.1.442
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bdikkat
bdikkat
13 May 2019
My fees didn't double overnight. They're the same. Don't know where you got that from. Not sure what you mean by 'locked in' either. All my files on on my machine. I'm not going to lose anything even if Adobe goes tits up, which it isn't.
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Eric•Woehler
Eric•Woehler
13 May 2019
lol
it's all over the web!! - try https://9to5mac.com/2019/05/02/adobe-creative-cloud-price-hike/ as starting point
as for locked in - try not paying your monthly fee and see how long you can access your files!
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bdikkat
bdikkat
13 May 2019
Well I wasn't aware of the increase for new users it's true, though as 9to5mac.com states, the increase may have been a test, and anyway you can still get the photography plan for the old price using the link they provide. But I can always access my files - they're on my Mac, and backed up, so I don't know what you mean by that. Perhaps you mean the cloud storage, which I don't use. But I do use and love Photoshop and Lightroom Classic. I agree they shouldn't increase their price, even though I love the apps. Pixelmator et al are good but they don't come near Lightroom imo.
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bdikkat
bdikkat
13 May 2019
... and it doesn't affect existing users :)
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bdikkat
11 February 2019
Simply cannot understand the hate. Adobe CC is brilliant.
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Version 4.8.0.421
arimatheia-otto
11 February 2019
This app needs the dark mode option.
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Version 4.8.0.421
incrzr
24 October 2018
Superbad
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Version 4.7.0.400
Bigboysdad
28 January 2017
Truly the worst program. I don't wish ill upon anyone (even in these dark times) but the person/ people responsible for this program need to be fired. It's just appalling, awful, no responsibility is taken by the people who've taken your subscription money when the program fails (and I guarantee you it will/ does). This program stops you working.
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Version 3.9.1.335
Dana-Sutton
31 October 2016
Adobe CSS is a textbook case of what happens when one corporation enjoys a monopoly on a product or service in a capitalist economy. There's only one known cure for the kind of crap many people have mentioned below -- they are in urgent need of competition to keep them honest and force t hem to put out quality products. I am amazed that other developers haven't responded to the challenge of putting out software that can compete with such CSS components as Dreamweaver. If they did a decent job this would surely prove immensely profitable since there are very many of us who would walk away from Adobe products in a heartbeat, given the chance.
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Version 3.9.1.335
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Graphic-Mac
Graphic-Mac
03 April 2017
Dreamweaver has more competition than almost anything Adobe does other than Photoshop.
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Kaz219
04 July 2016
This the software that gets stuck or crashes the most on my Mac (OSX 10.11.5). It used to be Microsoft Office but Adobe beat them by far. To be fair, Microsoft made progress and the Office for Mac 2016 is more reliable. After a few days without rebooting my computer, Creative cloud won't detect Lightroom and Photoshop installed on my computer until I reboot my Mac. I rarely reboot my computer (only when updates require it actually). I can kill Creative Cloud, restart it, kill everything containing “adobe” in its name in the activity monitor, it doesn't help, I need to reboot. And so far (one year) I had to uninstall/reinstall completely two times already, because even the reboot didn't help. I can't believe Adobe produce this kind of crap. Oh, and I changed computer in the middle of this delightful year with Creative Cloud: I didn't restore from Time Machine, I set the new mac up from scratch, so I am certain this issue is not related to my Mac: indeed, it is still happening on the new Mac.
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Version 3.7.0.272
mhasman
13 June 2016
Direct URL to 3.7.0.272 update download anyone? Please
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Version 3.7.0.272
Wunderhorn
20 April 2016
To me (I have been working with Adobe products since 1994) it seems that Adobe has changed their focus from producing software for creatives to become a data harvester. Nowadays the applications perform an uncomfortable amount of undocumented and suspicious server calls not only at the start of an application but also intermittently. Adobe refuses to disclose what information is being extracted from the user's computer (Red flag!). In case of Photoshop there haven not been many useful improvements in years. Old bugs and inconveniences prevail and do I need to mention that organizing brushes into folders has been a long standing request which would be exactly how much effort to do for one of the biggest software companies out there...? Instead users are being milked monthly, and all focus seems to go into binding them as close as possible to the Adobe dungeon. It is sad to see that once an exciting ally to professional creatives has now turned into something... that feels almost hostile. I am excited to see competition rising slowly and hopefully take over the industry standard some day.
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Version 3.6.0.248
cjred
14 April 2016
best design suite ever... but please Adobe fix ALL the inconsistencies in all the apps UI. And please for a subscriber can we get at least 100gb for creative cloud files huh???
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Version 3.6.0.248
Bigboysdad
19 March 2016
Just not working at the moment. Perennial spinning ball when it comes to updating Apps (perhaps it's most important task?). I would view having any working versions of LR & PS as an achievement in itself - but you won't have up to date copies with the Creative Could Desktop app.
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Version 3.5.1.209
Jessicajazz
21 November 2015
As Lauren Bacall might say, "Reel it in, boys. Your greed is showing."
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Version 2.3.0.151
WetNet
28 July 2015
Goodbye Adobe. . . HELLO Affinity!!!
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Version 2.2.0.129
WetNet
28 July 2015
Goodbye Adobe. . . HELLO Affinity!!!
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Version 2.2.0.129
WordWeaver
14 June 2015
I upgraded from Adobe CS5 to Adobe CS6 right when this whole greedy subscription nonsense began, and I don't regret it one bit. I will continue to use CS6 until Apple upgrades make it impossible to use. At that point, I will choose an alternative app -- possibly Pixelmator -- to replace CS6.

I understand that large corporations and companies are happy with Adobe's subscription model. However, as has been stated many times here, there are many of us who are not corporate giants. Neither do we own large businesses or even small shops.

We are quite often single individuals who simply want the best tools for designing our websites. We have very limited budgets, and perhaps -- like myself -- live on a fixed monthly income. We cannot afford to be dishing out $600 annually to Adobe. Neither do we feel the need to update our software every year.

The fact that Adobe's apps stop working -- and from what I have read, all personal work is lost and becomes inaccessible -- upon terminating a subscription, makes this subscription model all the more sour and undesirable.

It is people like us who Adobe has pretty much abandoned now, because all they care about is Big Money. They need to remember their roots from a few decades ago. They need to be reminded that it was people like me and you who gave them their start, and that they wouldn't even be where they are at today if it wasn't for us scraping together enough money to purchase their expensive products.

This money-driven world is for the birds, and may the birds poop on Adobe's products. After CS6, I am done with them, after 22 years of using their products!
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Version 2.1.0.108
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David-Stone
David-Stone
15 June 2015
Hi, I partially agree.
If you use InDesign, Premier or to a certain extent Illustrator then YES - stop subscribing and loose access to work you have created.
If you spend your days in Photoshop, the file format is a documented and controlled by Adobe and they publish it. Thats why there are so many apps that open PSD files.
That's not the case for the apps I mentioned where there are no published format specs.
Whilst I personally don't like the idea of software rental, the one nice thing to come out is Adobe are no longer doing the big software upgrade pitch every 18 months. They are incrementally refining and adding features every few months that you simply get - with all the fanfare.
Look at the sate of MS Office - their upgrades are so driven by "new features" every release it is a bloated piece of ...
Anyway, if you work alone, stick on CS6 - it started to use the GPU in Photoshop and Premier for certain tasks and works fine.
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cvdesign-1
08 October 2014
I recommended my company move to the subscription service a year ago. This week when I upgraded one machine to the latest versions of CC 2014, all my main apps opened but documents were "frozen" - four hours of phone calls later and two hours of setting up a new profile on my machine, I will never again recommend this subscription service. First they said it was caused by deleting the older CC versions, then they changed their minds and said it was a known font issue, then they changed their minds again and said it was the profile of my machine. So the only solution was to create another profile which was extremely disruptive and I had no use of my machine the whole day. Their version of "support" (first level and supervisors was a joke). I had no problems before installing upgrades, now everything is a mess.
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Version 1.8.0.447
Pik80
03 June 2014
With Apple's recent big push into cloud services in Yosemite one has to wonder what to make of 3rd party developers like Adobe coming out with their own offerings. When an OS manufacture like Apple comes out with a cloud solution it seems like a logical natural step. 3rd party developers simply tap into the storage provided by the OS so they only deal with one service. Why should I have one service for Adobe products and then another for all other software developers?
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Version 1.6.0.393
Igor-Freiberger
30 May 2014
Creative Cloud and Creative Cloud desktop app are different things. This is an update to the desktop app, a small utility to install Adobe apps, access Behance, use the CC virtual disk and enable TypeKit fonts. In its initial releases, CC app was a nightmare, but Adobe solved all the issues and now it is working quite well. In other hand, for me Creative Cloud rent is much cheaper than perpetual licenses as Adobe unified prices for Americas. After a dubious start, Adobe keeped the word and released several updates during the first year –especially for Photoshop, InDesign and Muse. Integration was improved and corrections were usually quick. Behance pro account, TypeKit, BC hosting and the CC disk are nice additions, although not decisive. TypeKit is surely the weaker point of the bundle. The fonts are limited in a number of ways for both desktop and web usage. If one need to rely on a certain font, it still better to fully license it. BC hosting offers five sites, but with the more basic plan. It would be better to have a choice on this –say, one full hosting with e-coomerce or five baic ones.
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Version 1.6.0.393
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cjred
cjred
31 May 2014
True the initial release was horrendous... I hope they fix the app especially when you switch spaces it becomes obtrusive AND UI consistency on all CC apps. Yah and the CC rent is quite cheaper anyway i only pay when you REALLY need to use it.
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ToddL1632
30 May 2014
The TypeKit that comes with Adobe Creative Cloud is a joke. It contains virtually none of the fonts contained in the Adobe Font Folio. An Adobe representative tried to persuade us to go with TypeKit over Font Folio, but failed to realize that fonts like Helvetica Neue LT Std (the most popular font family) is not included in TypeKit. There are many fonts for web use in TypeKit, but for correct font licensing for print the TypeKit is a very poor product.
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Version 1.6.0.393
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Gianluca70
Gianluca70
01 June 2014
I'm with you, and I don't really understand why that Adobe representative tried to compare Typekit with FF. Btw Adobe Font Folio cost is a LOT higher than Creative Cloud annual subscription.
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ToddL1632
30 May 2014
Creative Cloud is almost certainly the worst version of the Adobe Creative Suite software to date. It took our IT department months to configure firewalls and rules to simply get the product to install correctly. Adobe has now abandoned professional graphic artists who use tools for print production on a daily basis. The Creative Cloud caters to people who want to use this software at home on a rental basis. We use this stuff EVERY DAY, and deploy software to over 40 workstations. The Creative Cloud for Teams solution is horrible to administer and deploy. Give me a volume license any day over this poorly thought out rental product.
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Version 1.6.0.393
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Gianluca70
Gianluca70
01 June 2014
No need to configure firewall if you don't want to. Check this page or ask Adobe about deployment of updates that don't require internet connection: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/creativesuite/enterprisedeployment.html
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Tim27
Tim27
01 June 2014
I agree with you. However, If you had that much trouble I am not sure why you'd want to even continue using it? If I spent even one week trying to configure software at my company I'd either be fired for not knowing what I'm doing or they would simply say to keep using the old version because we can't have you spending that much time just installing software. CS6 still works fine.
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Gianluca70
Gianluca70
01 June 2014
Yes I understand. I've spent a lot of time in the past with Creative Suites that sometimes loose registration or patches that didn't want to install. As always big companies like Adobe care much more of big customers, forgetting the rest.
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JamesHarrisPhoto
30 May 2014
The money I make each month from graphic design and photography easily pays for $29 I spend for CC. There was no way my firm was going to budget for all these apps individually, so getting the video editing and creation products was a nice bonus. The rental model is not for everyone however, but in my case it was the best solution. And having access to a lot of the Adobe type library is cool.
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Version 1.6.0.393
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Pik80
Pik80
30 May 2014
Adobe's log-in issue last month caused many users to loose access to their fonts as well as the ability to run their apps. I fail to see how this could be "the best solution".
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Moxiesozo
Moxiesozo
30 May 2014
Enjoy the "promo" price... soon you will be paying $70/month, with no guarantee that the cost will be raised again on Adobe's whim.
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Mikebenda
30 May 2014
From "What's New": You can now install older versions of Adobe products straight from Creative Cloud Desktop. These are installed side-by-side with existing versions. Can I sign up for a month, download CS6, then cancel my subscription and continue using it, or will the older versions stop working when I discontinue my subscription?
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Version 1.6.0.393
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Revco
Revco
30 May 2014
I think it'd be safe to say the CS6 software would stop working. Probably because CS6 was the first subscription based release of creative suite.
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Igor-Freiberger
Igor-Freiberger
30 May 2014
Of course they will stop working. Otherwise, everybody could purchase a $2,500+ bundle for just $50. What this CC app introduce is a smoother way to install CS6 applications. Until now, you need to manually access a special page after login.
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twinturbine
30 May 2014
Apart from the fact that you can rack up a bill larger than the total cost of ownership of previous versions after a relatively short time, there are severe privacy implications. How much data will CC ACTUALLY collect on you and your usage of this product? If you're on the road (e.g., photographer, business trip) and unable to get online, how usable will this product be? If anything this new cloud based system will encourage piracy as people make a crack for this easily downloadable product for those who find this cloud based systems offensively intrusive, expensive and a constraint to their work. As for me, as soon as CS6 is outdated I'll be looking for alternatives and it won't be cloud based or from Adobe that is now blacklisted from our company.
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Version 1.6.0.393
CrazedLeper
23 March 2014
Rent software? Can't possibly be good--for me. Where is the middle finger key?
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Version 2.5.0.367
-rick-v-
22 March 2014
I suspect I’ll be in small minority when I say this, but… For us, Creative Cloud has been great. I totally get how this is a terrible move from the perspective of the small shop that doesn’t need to upgrade every year. But for me, it means not having to argue the justification for upgrades (and hope the budget gets approved) every year, or track serial numbers (a tedious job that must be meticulously maintained). And Creative Cloud for Teams has brought a godsend for license management— someone leave? Simply remove their email address. Someone needs Photoshop? Simply add their email to the Teams page. Like I said, I see how independent contractors and small shops would hate this. I get that. But not all of us think so.
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Version 2.5.0.367
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Pik80
Pik80
23 March 2014
Unfortunately there haven't been very many good Adobe updates over the last couple of years so having a steady stream of cash going out for mediocrity is what makes CC outrageous. This is true whether you are a small business or a large one. It makes no difference. There are other ways to get around serial numbers besides resorting to subscription. I can buy graphic apps through the MAS without needing to rely on serial numbers. I just bought Sketch, iDraw, and Pixelmator all without having to record a single serial number. I don't know if you are in anyway associated with Adobe but none of your arguments hold any water at all if you really stop to think about it.
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Donmontalvo
Donmontalvo
24 March 2014
Pixelmator is $29.99, and it gives you modern day (read: leverages OS X technologies) alternative to Photoshop and Illustrator. http://pixelmator.com Best of all, no Adobe tax. ;)
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Pik80
Pik80
25 March 2014
@Donmontalvo A lot of people are getting impatient that Adobe doesn't take advantage of OS X technology as well as new Mac hardware. There is a blogger who keeps asking Adobe about when their software will be optimized for the Mac Pro but he hasn't got much of a response back from them. http://www.thepromacblog.com/the-silence-is-deafening/
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Donmontalvo
Donmontalvo
25 March 2014
Adobe is the McDonalds of the software industry. Except that they're expensive. The "we hire cheap third party slave labor" position is about the same. They "lock you in" and then hit you with regular fees...as many of their staff brag about being involved in "revenue healthy" Creative Whatever.
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-rick-v-
-rick-v-
27 March 2014
I work for a large global company. And like most large companies, Macs make up a relatively small percentage of total computers. Yet, our workflow necessitates working across platforms (Windows and Mac), as well as frequently exchanging source files with clients directly. Sometimes the project may mandate Premiere, even though our in-house guys prefer Final Cut (as per client requirement). Same goes for Photoshop, InDesign, Flash, and so on. So suggesting we could do a drop-in replacement with a few low-cost Mac-only alternatives is a joke. And suggesting that because I gave it a high mark means I must work for Adobe is a joke. I appreciate, and even encourage, the move away from Adobe products. Personally, I don’t even install Flash on my computer. But as I said in my original statement; Adobe makes it trivially easy to manage large numbers of users. Frankly, I wish all software management was this easy. I stand by my original rating.
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Donmontalvo
Donmontalvo
27 March 2014
@_rick_v_ If you work for a large company, you should not be using Creative Cloud Teams, instead you should be using Creative Cloud Enterprise. The former is per user activation, the former does not require activation. This thread isn't about how to manage Creative Cloud, right license for the right job would be the answer there. This is about Adobe moving to a subscription model that at the end of the day makes Adobe more money (read: "revenue healthy") and locks users into a perpetucal subscription scam license model. Adobe is the 800 pound gorilla, and Pixelmator is already eating into their (very high) profits. Adobe is going to milk users dry while they can.
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Pik80
Pik80
27 March 2014
@_rick_v_ "And suggesting that because I gave it a high mark means I must work for Adobe is a joke." ...which I never said. Let's review my original statement again shall we? "I DON'T KNOW if you are in anyway ASSOCIATED with Adobe..." Notice I used the words "associated with adobe". This might mean that you are a non employee who holds a lot of stock in the company (a completely reasonable thing to assert since a lot of people are buying Adobe stock with the move to CC) or associated might mean that you are in the educational field and financially benefit from users being on the latest version so that you have more people to teach to. Although most PCs run Windows there is still a sizable number of Mac users in creative fields. It's not like Windows PCs have the same 90% marketshare they have in other industries. Also if you consider the iPad a Mac (as it is quickly becoming more like) then Apple's marketshare in the business world is improving dramatically. Also people are not just moving away from Adobe due low costs many people are moving to the competition since some of the Adobe products are falling behind. For an example compare the recently discontinued Fireworks to new heavy weights like Sketch. Why should we have to spend a premium for, in some ways, out dated tech?
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Donmontalvo
Donmontalvo
27 March 2014
Pixelmator mimics most of the functionality of Photoshop and Illustrator. It toggles between the two functions. It leverages the most modern OS X technologies. It's fast. It's stable. And it costs $29 (one time cost), where Adobe costs $49/month forever. Adobe is going to milk everyone as much as it can, as they've already begun their downward spiral.
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Gianluca70
Gianluca70
01 June 2014
I see no point in software comparison as this is page is about CC package and not single app like Photoshop, Illustrator or After Effects. Every one should decide which software is the best choice for him. If one is outdated, slow or whatever move to another. For a company that want to have all the updates CC is really cheap. Compare this to other subscriptions prices (like for 3D apps). For a company or a freelance that upgrade every 1-2 version CC is quite the same price if you grab a promo. Mayor difference is that CC "forces" you to pay, when with the old Suite/Product solution you decide when to upgrade (pay).
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Pik80
Pik80
03 June 2014
@Gianluca70 I have compared the pricing to other software and found that many competitors not only offer cheaper prices but at times they offer vastly superior products as well. For an example Sketch is vastly better then Fireworks/Photoshop at web design and yet only costs a scant $80.
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Gianluca70
Gianluca70
04 June 2014
@Pik80, CC is a package of tools. You can use all of them or not, but you will pay the same amount. This is how it works this business model. You pay for a lot of tools that you probably never use. So if you require just 1-2 tools maybe is better to find a replacement from competitors as it will be cheaper. But when you have a workflow of 4-5 apps the compatibility and the interaction of Adobe apps is quite interesting at this price. To me CC is a LOT cheaper than buying a similar set of tools from competitors or the old Creative Suites.
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Fringewood
19 June 2013
Yawn.... Adobe has seen the last of my money.
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Version 1.0
RavenNevermore
19 June 2013
I see Adobe replaced the Application Manager with Creative Cloud on my Mac yesterday, and decided to have it as a startup item. I can understand one line of reasoning that their apps are expensive, and this way you get all the updates and upgrades to new versions. But I have no interest in renting software that's going to stop working when I decide not to keep paying them money every month. Not everyone needs to upgrade to the newest versions after all. Looks like Microsoft decided to copy Adobe. Hopefully this is not the way of the future.
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Version 1.0
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Graphic-Mac
Graphic-Mac
22 March 2014
Unfortunately, it IS the future. You should start warming-up to the idea, because all large(r) developers are going to switch to it. It's not greed, it's survival. It's unfortunate that we find ourselves in this position, but in some respects it's our own fault.
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Tim27
Tim27
23 March 2014
@James-D, this is why smaller developers will inherit the future of software. They are more responsive to customer requests, the are better at solving problems, they create better performing software in general. Take a look at Pixelmator and compare to Photoshop. Case in point.
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Mikebenda
Mikebenda
30 May 2014
Plus smaller developers don't have the huge overhead of a large workforce, expensive offices, and shareholders that demand increased profits every quarter.
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Gianluca70
Gianluca70
01 June 2014
I'm with James-D. It's the (actual vision of the) future. Autodesk is following Adobe too. It's a business model that works, until sales data will say otherwise.
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RavenNevermore
RavenNevermore
01 June 2014
@Gianluca70, while it might be the business model these companies are moving to, they are doing it through coercion. It's not being offered as an option. You have no choice, and that's just wrong. And subscriptions are also being seen with music streaming, and it's the same deal; keep paying every month or lose what you paid for. If it's any indication on the public's reaction, lots of people don't like the subscription software or music idea, and look how many people are cutting the cord on Cable TV. I did this myself. Rather than pay Comcast $200 a month for Triple play, I now just have Verizon internet ($45), by Roku and Netflix ($8) and just use my iPhone as my main phone phone. But Photoshop, et al, was never intended for the general public anyway. This is probably better for corporations, but not so good for freelancers. And I'm afraid that many people will pirate the apps they want or continue using pre CC versions.
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Gianluca70
Gianluca70
01 June 2014
@RavenNevermore When someone is a standard can easily change the standard. Not forever, just for a while. Like you said it happened many times and in different markets. I think that even a freelance that makes money with a tool should think about buying it. CC cost is very low compared to old Creative Suites so you can start a business without needing to spend a lot of money. Maybe one day CC will be free for home user. Who knows.
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RavenNevermore
02 June 2014
@Gianluca70, if you are a freelancer, and you plan on using the whole suite, or several apps, then it's worth it. But it's $50 a month. That's $600 a year. That's about how much Photoshop used to cost. Then CS6 went up to $949.95. Adobe is not doing this because they are loosing sales to pirating, it's because they are pricing their software out of reach for many people. People pirate software they can't afford. So it's a sticky situation, the software is expensive, and renting it is cheaper. Except for the fact that you get free updates, eventually you will have paid more than it cost for the whole creative suite. Eventually they will price themselves out of existence. On a brighter side, I see they are offering Photoshop for $9.95 a month now. When people start seeing that Gimp is now pretty close featurewise to Photoshop, I'm sure some will decide to go that route! ;)
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cubanpete
19 June 2013
CC also means Cash Cow
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Version 1.0
BobDavey3378
19 June 2013
I need more than one app like Photoshop but not the rest of the crap which is the only other option. In the US the monthly cost is $49.99, in the UK £46.88 & in France €61.49. At the current exchange rate using the US price as a base UK should be £31.90 & France €37.28 give or take. The concept is fine but the pricing & structure will force a lot of small business to either not upgrade or as I suspect find a way around it unless they stop ripping us off, especially in Europe.
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Version 1.0
Rondfranks
18 June 2013
I'm going to miss using Photoshop and Illustrator at home after CS6 stops working. It's an ugly situation, and I'm afraid other software manufacturers and going to jump on the greed bandwagon also. Especially if Adobe is able to pull it off. It's not too hard to do when you have little competition to worry about.
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Version 1.0
erenbeskardes
18 June 2013
You are done Adobe. I will not pay you monthly rent for every program. You do not respect your users anymore.
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Version 1.0
Cowicide
18 June 2013
Like most other longtime Adobe customers, I am sickened by Adobe's greed with their Creative Cloud subscription model. The petition against it is over 30,000 so far... https://www.change.org/petitions/adobe-systems-incorporated-eliminate-the-mandatory-creative-cloud-subscription-model
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Version 1.0
Iturtle
18 June 2013
greedy. bloated. bugs never fixed. support below zero. updates always far to expensive. and now forced updates. I feel like a factory farming animal. like a cow to be milked for what it's worth. I had enough. bye bye greedobe!
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Version 1.0
I think MacUpdate should no longer include AdobeCC in normal software update feeds. I also think that there should be a special category for rental/subscription types of programs. You have Commercial, Demo, Shareware, Free. CC no longer fits any of those categories. It would only be reasonable to expect a class for SUBSCRIPTION FEE REQUIRED - That ceases to be functional if you choose to leave the subscription. To me, that does not really seem like useful software.
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Jack-Foster-Mancilla
Jack-Foster-Mancilla
18 June 2013
I forgot to mention that the tag next to the name, and price, says "Buy" … It should say, "Monthly Rental Fee"
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-M-S-
06 May 2013
Hmmm no more Creative Suite... pretty huge news: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/06/adobe_kills_creative_suite_for_cloud/
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Version 6
As Dr Evil said to Frau Farbissima after their unplanned intimacy, "It got weird, didn't it?" I started up Photoshop and wasn't sure if my graphics card had exploded or my computer had been taken over by some new virus. And a black interface. For Photoshop. Why? Of course. Because of Aperture. Oh, geez Louise. 5.5 was purring and I went and did this. To myself. Time to get some sleep and then de-install. It'll take forever, but what is time? The Universe is vast. Life is eternal. Adobe, your take on "art" in graphical interface is astonishingly vapid and banal. Even "style" eludes you. Perhaps you should just go for "functionality". And installers that work. And apps that don't weight a metric ton. Back to 5.5 for me. Thinking about 6? Think about using that money to get your teeth cleaned, or a trip to Hawaii. I'm just sayin'...
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Version 6
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RavenNevermore
RavenNevermore
19 June 2013
:)
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themesser
31 May 2012
I LOVE ADOBE, without them, I would be stuck with Apple Motion/FCP (which are just crap for home video papas) or still working on Combustion. After Effects/Premiere are the ultimate tools for motion graphic designers, integrating flawlessly with photoshop/illustrator. Of course, there are some things missing, there are always extra features I would want to see in AE, but for the price, Creative Suite is an incredible toolbox for photographers, videographers and designers. Some says "it does not integrate with the 3-fingers page turn effect on my trackpad" or "does not use Lion (should say iPad) full set of features), well, i'll say it is a good thing; no professional want its workspace turned into a gadget
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Version 6
Caproberts
29 May 2012
Updates now only directly from Adobe and they offer subscriptions at the same price for users since CS3, make me disappointed to upgrade regularly. Price is again almost twice what it is in the US for Australia yet no difference in Language. Besides the general problems, the 64 bit versions feel quicker, a lot of effort has gone yet again to make the apps look differently, changing the interphase, WHY??? Yet other little things that would make our everyday live easier have not made it into this version, even after suggesting and asking for them repeatedly. Wonder if they read the feedback emails and which lists? All I wanted is a modifier key to automatically switch between align to election and align to canvas. Like pressing command and clicking on the centre button aligns object to the canvas, while clicking without holding down a key or maybe hold down option or shift and align to selection. Apparently this is very difficult to do. This would speed my work flow up much more than content aware patches or other fancy things.
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Ocd
25 May 2012
Does anyone else think that the new CS6 graphics, icons and splash screen design is the ugliest ever? The garish colors!? The dumb splash screen graphics!? What were they thinking? Were Adobe's art directors and designers on crack and acid at the same time?
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incrzr
incrzr
25 May 2012
I'm more annoyed by CS6 not working with Spaces/Mission Control. I mean they just don't stay in their assigned space.
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Caproberts
Caproberts
29 May 2012
Agree, the icon are extremely ugly as well, look a bit like they were designed for a funeral parlour. But what can we do, they'll change them gain in a year...
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RavenNevermore
07 May 2012
So far, I like the new versions of the suite. There are no big things that jump out at you (at least so far in my short time with the demos), but everything has a fresher look and feel, especially applications like Dreamweaver, which feels more like an Adobe program.
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Version 6
I can not review C6 because I can not buy it. Except for a very few feature additions and upgrades, my CS5.5 remains at C3 level in almost all respects. To critique Adobe's "suites" would be like re-writing "Moby Dick." I just don't have the time. I own The Creative Suite Master Collection. I would advise anyone who decides to do a reinstall - to fix issues - to consider the effects of reinstallation. Firstly, it's many hours of your life. Secondly, it'll double the amount of CRUFT (unused junk files) thrown into every corner of your Mac. And anyone who thinks that using the Creative Suite Cleaner Tool between installs will help: be warned. It just makes matters worse and seems to increase the number of files. Also, reinstallation usually produces twice the number of system errors. Unlike regular terrestrial software, Adobe seems to want to number each file, so when a reinstall occurs, xxx.bom becomes xxx2.bom. Advice for those whose work-flow does not rely on these ridiculously gargantuan software collections: install ONLY the tools you will absolutely need. Uninstalling a version of Flash Pro that you won't use later will leave many megabytes of files behind, and the erasure of ONE of those files may make Dreamweaver unusable. Use a tool like Devon Tech's free 'Easy Find' to look at the collateral damage after a so-called "uninstall". Advice for those who've had enough: when it becomes possible, reinstall Lion (or your favorite OS) using a clean install. Adobe obviously believes that Mac users are such a 'niche' market that we'll just go away. Well... come to think of it, yes we will.
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RavenNevermore
RavenNevermore
24 April 2012
Gee, I don't know about that. There were some very nice tools introduced in Photoshop since CS3 that I use on a constant basis. There were also some very nice refinements to Illustrator, and InDesign, and DreamWeaver has gotten to be more like an Adobe Mac product. Acrobat got dumber, as far as the interface. I've been using the beta version of Photoshop CS 6, and I like it a lot. I like the Adobe collections are a good deal for the money compared to what they cost separately.
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jessica@jessicawilliams-com
jessica@jessicawilliams-com
28 February 2013
Davidravenmoon - I went and did it. I have 6. It doesn't impress me yet, but I have it installed so I'll give it a shot, based on your knowledge and opinion. Maybe I need a bigger monitor. I'm at 27" now... Thanks for the positive feedback on this app-cluster. Tomorrow, things may look different. Dreamweaver still looks awfully weird to me. Is there a way to lighten it up a bit? It has that PC #999 look to it.
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RavenNevermore
28 February 2013
Jazzica, I'm on a 24" iMac, so I can't help with the monitor situation! I guess I shut off palettes I don't use. It hasn't been a problem so far. I don't think you can lighten up Dreamweaver. I don't see a setting for that. You change it in Photoshop, but I like the new dark interface there. You can turn the "application frame" off. I actually leave it on in DW, but I turn if off in Photoshop. Go figure. I've never been a Dreamweaver fan, and I still have GoLive 9 on my Mac. But I make myself use DW, and this version seems less sucky than the last few. But the whole application is so 1999 Windows. Anyway, hope you find aspects of it that you like. :)
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Kobalt
23 April 2012
Yes, a post about the pricing. I can find no prices on the Australian Adobe website with the exception of the monthly membership price which is some AUS$13 higher than the price listed on the US site, depsite the AUS$ being valued higher than the US$ at the moment. I wonder what little extras we'll get for the extra dollars here in the land of OZ? I bet the full product pricing will be exorbitantly higher as well as per usual. I can only scratch my head in amazement at Adobe's continuing price gauging pricing policy.
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Caproberts
Caproberts
29 May 2012
Agree, they always exude it with phrases like, smaller market, exchange rate is official median, etc. Only it has been 1:1 for quite a while now and the whole smaller market would make sense if they had to produce a special version for it, like versions in German, Spanish, French etc.
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ososX
23 November 2011
I HATE ADOBE ! Just purchased the CS5.5 (as my CANVAS is obsolete on Lion). After entering the code I received with the "product", got a note saying that "this serial number is not valid for this product". ADOBE is the WORST company ever ... I wish they'll cease.
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Version 5.5
D9
26 January 2011
Just a word about upgrades... Adobe has a very terrible policy and an even worse implementation of information on their upgrade policy for any Adobe graphics/web products!! As we found out the hard way, Adobe will not allow you to upgrade your previous (in this case) Illustrator software if it was part of the Creative Suite bundle; no upgrading individual CS components from a previous suite. So regardless of the fact that you have a folder on your computer that is named Adobe Illustrator CSx with a program inside named Adobe Illustrator CSx that when opened presents a splash screen stating Adobe Illustrator CSx, you cannot upgrade to Illustrator CS5. In addition, other than a small link at the bottom of the product page leading you to an upgrade eligibility "tool" page (which in turn gives a rather ambiguous answer), nothing on the page or in the store page informs you of what is or is not required to upgrade other than a copy of "Adobe Illustrator CS4, CS3 or CS2"...of which I indeed have. This is a ludicrous money-grabbing policy that has pretty much cemented our department and company (on my strong advice) to stay away from upgrades for Adobe software. Remember when Quark did this crap...and remember what happened to Quark?! (FYI...I'd rather read a Russian newspaper than watch a Flash ad!)
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incrzr
10 May 2010
WTF? CS5 and Spaces are STILL NOT working properly togehter!
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Pik80
Pik80
13 May 2010
You've got to be kidding me! This is the third version of Creative since Leopard came out! Did they at least get quicklook to work by now? 99% of the non Adobe programs I have in my machine support these two technologies. This is really making me mad.
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Version 5
Tony-Aguila
04 May 2010
First impressions. I mainly work with the three design apps, InDesign, Illustrator, and Photoshop. I have not tried out the other applications except for Bridge. Of the three, only InDesign would work properly. Illustrator consistently crashes when you quit so none of the settings are preserved. Photoshop behaves pretty much the same way but instead of crashing, it gives an error message, "Could not save Preferences because the file is locked or you do not have the necessary access privileges..." I tried uninstalling and reinstalling Illustrator and Photoshop with the same result afterwards. This is installed on a MacPro3,1 running Snow Leopard 10.6.3. No problems to date running CS4. Acrobat Pro was also damaged by the installation so I had to uninstall and reinstall it from the CS4 installer disk. So the only program that I have been able to spend some time with was InDesign. There are several nifty features, e.g., the span/split columns feature, a much improved control palette, and better transformation and control of placed images. From the standpoint of a designer/printer, would the $600 upgrade cost from CS4 be worth it? Probably not. I had no choice because the majority of my work is from designers who work with different versions of the Creative Suite products. By the way, InDesign CS5 no longer exports to INX format (CS3-compatible). It only does IDML which can be read in CS4 or better.
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Version 5
Phaleron
01 May 2010
Does anyone know if the 20-installation limit Adobe introduced in their previous version continues to be the case in CS5? I know this is difficult to tell from reading the licence, since it was never documented in the EULA or disclosed elsewhere, but any "inside info" at this point would be appreciated, given that it is the sole reason I am not upgrading.
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Phaleron
Phaleron
02 May 2010
I just found out the Adobe activation/deactivation limit policy (which I erroneously called "Installation limit") has been removed as of January 2010 See: http://blogs.adobe.com/OOBE/2010/01/removing_deactivation_limit.html This includes previous versions CS3/4. This is great news as it brings - in my opinion - an end to an unfair and secretive policy against those clients which actually want to buy their licences.
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Version 5
Digiscapers
01 May 2010
I used to swear by Macromedia's versions and was even loyal after Adobe came along. I stuck around until CS3 was released and it because apparent that Adobe just did not value Mac Users. What a horrible time it was... as the software developer was cashing in big time I was constantly of my freezing and crashing while trying to be productive for my client base. Let's be honest here, We all thought CS4 would bring some nice improvements to the mac versions because of how bad CS3 was... but we are burned again. I believe adobe sees the issue we all have here with their price cuts for CS5 but it's still $2K. I am still feeling shady about all the time I lost with the DW freeze-ups (on a top of the line mac pro) from this version, at my hourly rate I could have bought a subscription all the way through CS9. Hear me and consider this, YOU are only as good as your tools, to be the best you will want to find alternatives to Adobe wherever you can, this is not (or should not be) the standard any longer, at least until Adobe actually starts using the software themselves to see what we are going through with the quality they slew out to us.
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Version 5
Rubaiyat
01 May 2010
Adobe's installations/updates have always been all over the place. The lack of even a hint of common sense or user insight is just "Adobe". Decades of pleading cujoling, imploring etc have done nothing for me. Good luck in trying to get them to listen. PS. Less bugs would be nice as well, but marketing doesn't seem to think that amounts to a feature.
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Version 5
Dana-Sutton
30 April 2010
Just got my hands on Dreamweaver. It's way too early to pass judgment on the CS5 version but I can tell you something that already has me hugely pissed off. I skipped CS4 and had been using CS3 until today, and had invested a lot of time in effort in customizing it to behave as I want, in adding special commands of my own and then using Keyboard Maestro to set up keyboard equivalents to invoke each one, and so forth. Then I install CS5 but none of my customization was transferred to the new version. I had to do all the heavy lifting myself by going to User>Library>Application Support>Adobe and making changes manually. Niormally, when you update a piece of software the installer does most if not all of this stuff for you. Why can't Adobe manage to do the same? This is truly annoying, and for the price Adobe charges the customer ought to be treated like a king.
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Version 5
Noboruwatanabe
30 April 2010
Installed, used for an hour (especially fireworks), this can be considered a bug fix for CS4 that should have been released 7 days after CS4 was released... So I don't really get how adobe thinks changing a freaking version name entitles them to charge you this massive price to get what most of us have paid already for it (a little bit of stability and almost the same functionality)... I sold my cs4 months ago... and I wouldn't pay more than 200 pound to get this suite... it's the exact amount of money that would repay the effort adobe put into this product... "keep up the great work guys", I'll stick with pixelmator, drawit and sketch...
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Version 5
Leono
01 June 2009
SUPPORT ALERT: Error "Licensing for this product has stopped working" when you launch Acrobat 9 or Adobe Creative Suite 4 products. Nice one Adobe... This costs us one productive day again! So wait a little when you update adobe CS4 automatically. It corrupts the whole install of CS4 ending up reinstalling or fixing things manually.
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Version 4
Dimbeko
14 October 2008
Too expensive, too unreliable... Is Adobe 'microsofting' again? First - kill competitors, than kill customers with ridiculous prices, buggish software and terrible support. I will spend my money somewhere else this time.
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Dimbeko
Dimbeko
24 November 2008
Well, I am taking back, partially. But the price is still too high.
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Version 4
Angina-Mörkel
26 September 2008
Hi exphotoshop But they HAVE reorganized the old scrap lastly!!?? After nearly 20 years. That should have been done many years ago, of course, but now, after many updates (money, money, money ;-) they finally did it. So you don't have to wait for the integrated pizza-topping designer in Photoshop 14 ;-) As always and in every version, the new Photoshop CS4 seems to be a hugh step forwards, although the redesign took them far to long, there are some usefull enhancements now. So lets buy a new Mac for it as usual and let the Apple & Adobe twins get what they like most of you. They deserve it ;-) Buy a new Mac for a new Adobe and a new Adobe for a new Mac (OS), the twins have tricked you this way for so long now, why should you stop it? ;-) Just take it sportly, ping-pong is a nice game. As everybody knows, your work can't be done with 2 or 3 years old computers or apps, thats impossible, your work stinks then, no one will pay you anymore and consequently you will die of hunger and frustration. And that wouldn't be fine, but hey, gladly there are Adobe and Apple to save your life every day. ;-) I think as long as people are willing to pay a lot of money for the minor enhancements, apps will never be "finished", 20 years old or not. And actual America really needs your money, the american politicans have ordered their citizens to pay 700 billion dollars to a now bankrupt bank industrie that nearly ruined their whole country, the representatives want to assure this way that the vermins can continue with their benedictional business as usual. And both Adobe and Apple pay high taxes as everyone knows, so help please America and buy CS4 ;-) Need more reasons to buy CS 4? Just ask ;-) And thanks for the Nikon Capture NX tip, I will have an eye on it. Sorry for my bad english, I work in the bank business.
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Version 4
Exphotoshop
24 September 2008
- Alltogether now, a one-two-three-four: money money money - for adobe must be funny - in a dumbhead world tralla la la lallala la... Stop it Adobe, bugfix CS 2 and CS 3 first. Many of your customers (customers = the people were your money comes from) have paid a lot of money for working app-collections twice, for CS 2 and later CS 3, both siutes are still very buggy, so bugfix them - ultimately - don't you feel any shame for your buggy products, BigBoss of Adobe? You've never tried to work with InDesign CS3 on a Mac with OS 10.5, right? All your work with Bugrobat is done by your secretary, right? And NO, I don't want to get new versions by filesharing, I pay for apps that I have in daily use, BUT fix the bugs, I've paid for a working CS 3 suite! You have my money! You like it? Well, then take out the bugs. Think of: my money - your pocket, and consider the future of this relationship. Got it? My tip for Photoshoppers: I suggest everyone who wants to do image-optimizing with effectively professionell tools, to take a deeper look into Nikon Capture NX2, - you get far better and really high professionell tools, far better results, far better organized workflows... FOR 200 DOLLARS. In Nikon Capture NX2 there is not the endless series of opening and closing different dialog windows just for the one tasks of color editing, or editing cuves/ greybalance, all needed tools just open organized in one palette. So you don't have to open one dialog, then close it to open the next, then, if needed, go back to the first dialog again, and so one. That is interface design of 1990. The Adobe style in 2008... And now, that's how it looks like in Nikon Capture NX2: all your tools are by the hand, not the antique style of functions scattered in "open & must be closed before continue" one-task-windows, no menues longer than the way from here to rome. ("Oh, look, how many single entries this menu has, this must be a very professionell app". - Well Adobe, then sell to the many stupid graphic designers, - to your convenience they never die off.) In Nikon Capture NX2 at first try out the many possible ways for your color correction tasks, this app is full of professionell tools - and if you've ever used these tools, the former grandmaster Photoshop immediatly appears like Playmobil... Nikon Capture NX2 looks ugly in its version 2.0, but use it for a few hours and you understand what I'm talking about here. (Yes, you have to spent some hours, it is designed in a different way, not following adobes old logic that you know well after many years.) My REVIEW is: A suite of apps for thousands of dollars, with many many bugs that never get fixed by a irresponsible developer, can't get more than 2 stars! I've tried out Photoshop CS 4 beta yesterday, nothing usefull in there for me, I think I will wait for the pizza-topping designer in CS 14. Or better for an well thought out workflow-orientated interface redesign, as suggested here, in Photoshop version 25 maybe. Meanwhile squeeze the last drop out of this 2D-image-editing app with costly but mostly useless updates, I don't care ...and don't pay anymore. Continue to withhold the few improvements that are possible in an 2D Image app after nearly 20 years of generell deployment in that market, withhold to feed your update circle, - continue with minor improvements for always the next absolutely groundbreaking version - big marketing and big update prices, but I don't care anymore. Best would be: you give Photoshop back to the Knoll brothers, they were ingenious, something you can't replace by a marketing-machine. By the way, regarding the Photoshop CS 4 new features: have you heard about the brand-brand-brandnew app Bodypaint 3D somewhere? Yes? Well, then, - what about an MP3-Editor in Photoshop CS 14, worth maybe another 400 dollar upgrade? Fix the bugs in CS 3 first, I will never buy CS 4 (as a payed bugfix for CS 3, or CS 5 later for CS 4 bugfixes, and so on) until Adobe fixes them. And give Photoshop the long-needed interface UPDATE. -
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Version 4
Whiterock
24 September 2008
Wow! Another annual tax. Just a mere $2600. (If you're not upgrading.) They never fixed the obvious bugs in CS2 but moved on to CS3. And now CS4. They don't give updates on CS2, so work around the bugs and save an enormous amount of money. They have an opinion of themselves even more inflated than the price.
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Version 4
Photek
23 September 2008
no 64bit version for Mac, but InDesign CS4 can back save to version 3.... I think I will be recommending to all the design studios I work with to hold on a year and a half for CS5. :)
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D9
D9
23 September 2008
Yes, one has to wonder at this point what CS4 is bringing to the table for Mac users...unless you want to count the bug fixes for CS3!! Not the least bit interested in paying Adobe for marginal products. Staying with CS3 and skipping >>
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Version 4
Spectral7
Spectral7
23 September 2008
LOL i still await them to make CS3 faster and not crash so often when using network homes and iron out all the arse ache to system admins and activation reinstall issues. I dream on !
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Version 4
Lunchboxxpiper
26 November 2006
Slow normally, but useful......lets just say I am glad the student price for me was 190$ not the normal price.
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Version 2.0
Bobster
25 September 2006
I've heard quite a few nasty things about CS2 being bloatware, so I'm staying with CS until I see a reason to switch.
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Version 2.0
Anonymous
31 October 2005
One point of criticism on "Bridge"... please bring back the "auto resolve" function to rename files when moving them around. I have so many images named 01.jpg for example, and having to rename every file before moving is tedious work, even using Batch Rename.
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Version 2.0
Anonymous
31 October 2005
Anyone else experienceing these bugs: 1)holding down spacebar to move an image around on the screen, is slow in Photoshop CS2. There is a long delay before the image actually moves when dragging. Could be the Core Image engine, I haven't tested CS1 on Tiger for the same problem. I have a Radeon 9200 AGP card if anyone has the same issue... 2)Photoshop occasionally crashes on launch 3) menus & palettes "behave" differently, especially the transparency-slider in the "layers" palette seems to require some skill til use all of a sudden.
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Version 2.0
Anonymous
18 October 2005
Bad update. Few new things. Big new price.
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Version 2.0
Anonymous
14 October 2005
Slow on a fast computer, ie useless. Back to CS 1.
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Version 2.0
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Anonymous
17 October 2005
It runs great on my powerbook. faster than CS.
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Version 2.0
Anonymous
12 October 2005
Some of the greatest creative programs on the market, now nicely interlinked. Creative suite 2 is a must for any professional nowadays.
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Version 2.0
Anonymous
08 October 2005
the features are excellent but it is SO SO SO slow at everything.
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Version 2.0
Anonymous
02 October 2005
What about all the temp files!!! They never go. So I'll keep very close to CS1 In my country is more than $1,000 for the suite... Let us start looking for an option...
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Version 2.0
Anonymous
23 September 2005
apps take about twice as long to open as compared to CS1 and the spinning beachball of doom is appearing with a frequency i haven't seen since way back in the days of OSX PB. WTF have they done - forgotten to take out the debug code or something? add to that the fact that there seem to be dozens of interface glitches [misaligned menus, fugly buttons, non-rendering of accented characters etc. etc.] and this really does look like an unfinished product. thank god i didn't wipe CS1 off my drive before installing this creaking lump of bloat!
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Anonymous
31 May 2005
I use InDesign, Photoshop, Illustrator from CS2. Excellent software. I enjoy working thereby. Thank you Adobe
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Version 2.0
Anonymous
06 April 2005
I guess I do not have the complaints of others. Adobe did stay with us when many, many others left the Mac software scene. For those who utilize Adobe products for business, the price of the software is very reasonable. For people like me who futz with it and enjoy it, it is obviously a bit more steep in warranting the price, so I wait for several revisions before I upgrade. However, this does diminish my respect for Adobe and what they represent as a software corporation--they have done a fine job and are fine company.
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Pelicans
Pelicans
06 April 2005
Adobe stayed with us (Mac users) because they would have been dead in the water without us. It was Postscript and Desktop Publishing that held their feet to the Mac fire, Not their good will. Most PC users still used only the keyboard .... why would anybody use a Mouse? .... Postscript...na I just hit print. Postscript became Acrobat and fonts died two deaths (remember Image Club) guess who bought and sold them twice (for a loss) Adobe is full of greedy little short men with pink eyes who have wives that bark! Ruff Ruff Adobe!
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07 April 2005
Twice now, I've purchased Adobe products with VERY LITTLE SUPPORT. Photoshop 7 went to what, 7.1? And did Photoshop 8 (CS) even get updated at all!? Just because Adobe "did stay with us," isn't any kind of excuse to me. I could just as easily say that I've "stuck with" Adobe - purchasing the Web Collection AND the CS Suite v1. And let's be honest, for Photoshop at least, this is a pretty minor upgrade. The $149 upgrade price is ridiculous. Until PS 8 quits working, I flat out refuse to upgrade. If this is some kind of sick plot to kill off the Mac versions - it may work out well.
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Pelicans
05 April 2005
I own 4 of the CS products, GoLive, Photoshop, Illustrator, & Acrobat. And had to buy them separately because of the release dates and actual supply in Canada (they fill the US market orders first) and therefore didn't have the opportunity to buy the CS Set. Still the Policy makers have made the upgrade path so narrow and steep, that only a very few can take advantage of it. Their actuarial skill is outstanding. Their product and customer service is ludicrous and fraudulent. Its not the Company it once was, I can remember back to 1985 when they were helpful, confident and credible. Adobe your on a toboggan ride. See you at the bottom.
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Anonymous
05 April 2005
One thing that needs to be understood my most everyone is that a particular piece of software has very little value other than it's PRECIEVED value. Adobe is banking on the fact that it's users will percieve this to be worth it. Let me give you a quick example. For most people Photoshop 5.5 is more than enough. What is the current value of Photoshop 5.5? Essentually nothing, even by Adobe's overpriced standards. Adobe's reasoning for activation is flawed. It's the "we can't stop the actualy clever pirates, so let's ream the little guy." My point is the "little guy" doesn't really need this. A new Mac Mini is $499. Photoshop is $899. Is PhotoShop worth more than an entire computer? Once upon a time there was a saying you get what you pay for. Alas, like many things, those times are long gone.
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Anonymous
05 April 2005
"A new Mac Mini is $499. Photoshop is $899. Is PhotoShop worth more than an entire computer? Once upon a time there was a saying you get what you pay for. Alas, like many things, those times are long gone." Your reasoning is flawed. If you are a professional who is using Photoshop for professional reasons, Photoshop easily justifies itself. If you cannot locate any features that justify the price of Photoshop, by definition you are not even supposed to be a Photoshop user in the first place, any more than you are supposed to go out and buy a $3000 digital camera like the pros do. What you are is a Photoshop Elements user, a product which costs less than one hundred dollars and will probably do what you need. Because if you truly needed Photoshop, you'd recognize its value. What's wrong with your reasoning is that you assume that the component must cost less than the container, therefore all software must cost less than the hardware it runs on. Professional photographers routinely buy camera equipment that costs more than a Mac mini. Professional photographers routinely buy lenses that cost more than the body they are attached to! Both of these examples show that it is ludicrous for you to draw any conclusion that it is wrong for Photoshop to cost more than a Mac mini. If you really needed Photoshop, you wouldn't buy a Mac mini. You'd buy a G5 tower. Does Photoshop cost more than a properly outfitted G5 tower? No! So your reasoning is completely bogus.
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05 April 2005
Photoshop is not 899 bro... the whole CS is only 550... 100 dollars cheaper than last time... and it comes with some great additions that a graphic designer like myself really need.
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Anonymous
05 April 2005
like internet activation. Wiiiindow$$$$
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Anonymous
04 April 2005
Why is it the Adobe is the ONLY one that doesn't adhere to Apple's Command-H (hide)? Is Adobe that omnipotent?
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05 April 2005
because Command + H originated with OSX and many of Adobe's apps were big before OSX came out, therefore already having commands associated with Command + H from the OS9 days. I agree with you that they should change though, because at this point in time it's harder on a user to have to remember how Command + H works just for Adobe than what those commands would now be mapped to. In any case, you can use utilities like Unsanity's Menu Master to overwrite Command + H in those apps anyway.
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Anonymous
05 April 2005
Photoshop > Preferences > General (Cmd-K). Tick 'Use System Shortcut Keys'. Been there since version 7.0
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05 April 2005
Photoshop > control+command+h = hide
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05 April 2005
No need to use an Unsanity haxie with Photoshop, in the current version (Photoshop CS) you could simply edit the keyboard shortcut right in the program itself. Or you can whine and complain even with the solution there in front of you.
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Anonymous
04 April 2005
dudes... in our hands are the option to "switch" or not to new Adobe CS... and pay for! i can't believe in that new features can make your productivity go to "new frontier"! i read in forums and in my own experience (modest work) that CS 1.0 have a lot of bugs and they are not solved yet... insist! ...nobody are pushing you to buy CS 2.0. is the best way to show to ADOBE guys our "feed-back". END
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04 April 2005
I agree with not succumbing to Adobe's "upgraditis" path. Each year you must PAY for their need for you. And why? they hold back a feature or two so its an upgrade and not a free update? No, its for profit and continuality. CS is STILL not native to Mac OS X. Its not a 64bit application. Only photoshop uses a plugin to use the multiprocessor G4 and G5. Yet Adobe bailed on designers by ditchng ATM Deluxe. Display Postscript squabbles? The only catch is if you have to upgrade your hardware to a new G5, you can only get the CS software for it. If you can't get classic running, you have to upgrade. But on a good note, atleasst inDesign is making strides at Quark. Now, for someone to make strides with Gimp vs Blotoshop...
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Anonymous
04 April 2005
Paid over $1,000 with purchase of first CS. Felt that it was useless to have a Dual G5 with software that doesn't take advantage of 64bit processing. I work with large, complex files and I was comfortable with Adobe products. There is no pricing for Adobe CS2 Standard. Clicking on the right link takes you right to the Premium link. I think the software is overpriced and will look towards shareware to replace Adobe products. At least make the upgrades more affordable!!
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Anonymous
04 April 2005
Shareware doesn't even begin to cover what the suite can do. So if you are satisfied replacing the suite with shareware, that logically means you were never in the target market in the first place, and it would have been a bad use of money for you to ever buy the Adobe products in the first place.
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05 April 2005
you're right, shareware won't cover it. but the GIMP is a pretty good replacement for Photoshop, and it's free. viva opensource.
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05 April 2005
GIMP doesn't even come close. Not. even. close.
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05 April 2005
GIMP is a pretty good replacement...for Photoshop Elements. If you think it can replace Photoshop for pro CMYK work, you just proved that you really don't know Photoshop.
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Anonymous
04 April 2005
I gotta say, with all the bugs still floating around in 1.0, I'm pretty disappointed that they jumped ship to 2.0 already, without still answering some of our bug requests. First and foremost, double-click on the illustrator window doesn't minimize to the dock? Not a majory issue -- but when you become used to a system, and then have to tweak your habits because of a little bug = loss time = lost productivity. ...and the adobe forums are filled with many more issues. I love adobe products -- I switched from Quark to InDesign because Quark ignored the users for so long, and is trying to play catch up to it's lost buyers. Don't do the same Adobe.
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04 April 2005
Your first few statements already back-up your last statement. As far as I'm concerned, Adobe IS Microsoft....in business and production habits anyway.
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04 April 2005
Amen! Macromedia's look'n good right now.
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Anonymous
04 April 2005
Amen 2! And Adobe built its business on Mac users, yet they totally shaft us by producing a "new" version without ever fixing the bugs in the old one. I also agree that the only way to fight back is to stick with CS1, despite the bugs. With such an avid fan base, you'd think Adobe would try to avoid losing it, but it seems like they're begging us to switch. DUMB. VERY, VERY DUMB, Adobe.
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Anonymous
04 April 2005
Come on Adobe!! I just freek'n upgraded to CS a few months ago and now you're hitt'n me up for more money?? This Sucks!
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04 April 2005
Complete agreement... we just upgraded our WHOLE company 30 days ago. Thanks Adobe, we'll be waiting a few years again.
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04 April 2005
Adobe released CS a long time ago. Over a year ago, if I recall. IT'S YOU GUYS who waited so long. What's Adobe supposed to do, phone everybody and see if they should wait another six months? And what about the rest of us? If WE upgraded 14 months ago, should we wait another year to get new features just because we have to wait for YOU? It's all relative.
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04 April 2005
True, I guess time went by faster than I thought... I guess my frustration is more towards the fact that it's too soon, and there are too many bugs in the current version. Not to mention, I can't afford to upgrade for the coin they're look'n for.
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Anonymous
04 April 2005
I agree -- but we waited in our purchase (and I bought it at home much earlier) because we were waiting for the bugs to iron out... which they didn't, as I stated in my above review. I'm just angry they didn't fix what they built before they popped out a new one.
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Anonymous
04 April 2005
Well $350 for the "Standard" upgrade (doesn't include Acrobat or GoLive) or you can go $550 for the Premium upgrade. You've got to be kidding me. This even makes some of MS's upgrades look reasonable. Come on Adobe! Are you with us or not? Should we go back to Quark? Egads!!
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04 April 2005
I agree. The loss of Acrobat is a bummer for me; it should be included, in my opinion. I'll probably pass on this as CS 1.x is working great for me, and I've yet to read about any new 2.0 feature that would greatly enhance my productivity.
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Anonymous
04 April 2005
Is it me, or does CS2 seem to be made up of relatively minor new features? I guess the upgrade pricing will tell us more...
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04 April 2005
It's you. Most of the new features seem to be great productivity features for professionals. If they don't appeal to you, you probably aren't running one of those workflows. It's not like they come up with the list at random...somehow what they put in floated to the top of the list, and you have to assume they were requested. Just looking at Photoshop alone, I can name two new features that mean I don't have to buy plug-ins I was planning to buy (noise removal and lens distortion correction). Not having to buy the plug-ins almost pays for the upgrade price already! Definite buy.
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Anonymous
26 June 2004
We switched to the Creative Suite about 4 months ago and have never looked back. Can't stand working in Quark anymore. It's not perfect (what is?) but it's far closer than anything out there. More and more printers are supporting it, and the PDF output is sensational. We are totally thrilled.
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Anonymous
19 March 2004
Adobe in my books falls into that grouping of developers who breathe a rarer air than any lowly user. Gulled by the lack of serious competition, like others of their ilk they mistake exclusivity and dominance of market share, with quality. Photoshop may "be" the "best", but its not really, when you make a relative dollar for dollar comparison with other products. If it was that much better, it'd draw the stuff for you, and give a fair massage to boot. Adobe, just because you have a product that many professionals need and rely upon, does not mean that you can behave badly. Every update you bring out has bugs left over from the last round, and few enough new features or fixes to justify even a portion of the money you charge. Am I being too harsh Adobe? Not, I think, when so many reviewers can't even get their paid-for updaters to work. And not when I can get up to make a cup of coffee in the time it takes Acrobat Pro to boot up. Should we go on to talk about your immediate, responsive and apologetic customer support then? Or would that be merely an exercise in rhetoric? Good paying customers should not have to come to feedback venues cap-in-hand looking for answers to ridiculous questions. I should not have to ask why your expensive product does not install or update on my stock standard Apple machine. All I should have to do is come up with the money to pay for Acrobat. If I want it that badly. The rest of my buying and user experience should occur on good faith, and in accordance with what you as an experienced and wealthy business have offered me for that money. I run my business that way, and if I didn't, I'd go broke. Why should you not be the same?
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04 April 2005
Great comment, even your statements belonging to the question "Should we go on to talk about your immediate, responsive and apologetic customer support then?" I can bear out. Thanks for your words.
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Anonymous
28 February 2004
Great suite but it is unfinished, unpolished and bloated.
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paul vincent
20 February 2004
anyone know of an issue as follows: OS 10.3.2 Adobe CS PS seems to corrupt files at random eg. open 500MB tiff ifle, adjust levels, random colour bars appear over image (like a magenta or yellow rectangle set to 'overlay'. File is corrupt. If unwittingly placed in ID - ID document becomes very corrupt. Cannot be opened later. Major drama! Oh yeah - and it dson't save in v2! And best of luck with version Q!!!
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Anonymous
27 January 2004
Bla, Bla, Bla and Bla,,,,,! This CS of ADOBE applications is state of ART pack foe anyone in serious graphic and web design! With hands down it dominates the market. The only thing which will complimented is Flash MX and your very own talent!
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Anonymous
07 December 2003
Seems very good, except ugly icons. One thing I don't like at all: Indesign CS can't save ID 2 format.
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scooter
12 November 2003
I have been evaluating The Adobe Creative Suite professional edition for our company (we both train and develop web apps). Version Cue is awesome for anyone who works in teams, no more multiple version running around. All the other apps seem to have been held for this release. These are NEW VERSIONS of all products. What I love about htem is the integration (which is why I have always been a Macromedia guy). This suite of products will have me off Macromedia (except for Flash) for good. They are well designed, well implemented, well worth the money for the upgrade. Adobe wanted to dominate all aspects of design and production? Well they have. If you don't have this suite, you are definitely behind the curve.
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Anonymous
04 November 2003
Photoshop CS is amazing in Panther. Top speed. Try it by yourself. Apple rocks, Adobe rules.
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Anonymous
30 October 2003
Some have commented that this updgrade is a bit steep. Have you lost your minds? For $749, one can own full versions of Photoshop, Illustrator, GoLove and InDesign (so long as you have any prior version of PS). In the past it cost between $400-700 per package. How can anyone argue with this. I've already placed my order.
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Anonymous
25 October 2003
I agree, anyway: Dreamweaver MX bugs bugs bugs Flash MX bugs bugs bugs Quark 6 bugs bugs bugs Thank God Adobe produces solid apps for OS X, bloated bud rock solid. Macromedia and Quark can't even think about quality.
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Anonymous
30 September 2003
In a tight economy they want us to upgrade to some scheme they hatched up, so they can show increased profit margins without giving the user much to get excited about ala Microsoft. No Thanks! We'll leave this one for the gaullible.
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Anonymous
29 September 2003
I will go for it. Early to say how it will fly with upcoming new OS but so far it sound's pretty good! Price is little-bit to steep.
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