Camino for Mac2.1.2

This was probably the only browser that handled Flash extremely well back in the day when Safari and Firefox had horrendous issues with Flash. It's so sad to see this browser being a casualty in the browser wars.

This browser will always hold a warm place in my heart. I was involved with it via the forums for many years, still the best browser I ever used.

Camino Reaches Its End: http://caminobrowser.org/blog/

Sometime I like just sitting on my bed with my laptop~ using any other browser will start burning my legs, but this does just fine for things I need it to do. I don't use it as much as other things, but it's a nice alternative when I get tired of firefox burning up :) The flash is disabled by default, unless you want to use it. There's some other weaknesses as far as website compatibility sometimes, but that's okay.

I've been using Camino again over Chrome and definitely Safari and Firefox. It's still the fastest, most direct, most stable, and complete. Chrome may be better tied to Google applications, and it has a few nifty features like auto-translation -- but I hardly use Gmail anymore and I can always hit a toolbar icon to get Google Translate. So for the speed I've gotten back, and the excellent linkage to various extensions and plug-ins (those still available), I've given up very little. Here's hoping someone revisits Camino and brings out the next version, or a new variant, whatever it may be. I love Camino.

Coming up on 1 year without an update. I think McCoy said it best: "He's dead, Jim"...

The nightly is still going.

I use to love this browser, version 2.1.2 is unstable crash very often, also my MBP 10.6.8 over heat when using camino.

I don't know why anyone would use this browser. It is *reaaaaly* slow. On my mac peacekeeper benchmark gives the following results: Chrome 24: 3808 Safari 6: 3154 Camino 2.1.2: 778 ipad 4th generation: 951 An ipad's browser is faster than camino on a macbook pro and Chrome is about 5 times faster and safari 4. Clearly this software is somewhat abandoned and does not receive the same development effort as other browsers.

Camino used to be my browser of choice, but in the 2.1.x version, the developers changed the autocomplete algorithm such that you only get 10 results, and the results are not stem matches to what you type in the URL window. Also, I've been noticing more and more pages which do not render correctly. As a result, I'm now looking at going back to Safari or Firefox. It's a shame, because it really is a nice, fast, lean browser, as the description suggests.

Tried it again, after a year and it still doesn't render pages well on some sites, especially with Flash. Used it as my favorite browser for years, when all Mac browsers did't fare too well in rendering more than a few sites. Some irritants have been fixed. Still fast and uses little memory and cpu. Work on the Flash issue or HTML5 and it should be great. Handles cookies Far better than Safari. Terrible for popups and popunders, still. "Pimped my Camino" very lightly the last time I brought it out of hibernation and it seemed to make it worse in most respects. Freezes more than other browsers.

My preferred browser for many years, especially because of its capacity to work when very restrictive security parameters are chosen. However, Camino's cookie blocking option does not work against cookies whose name starts with a dot, in particular the much problematic .atmdt.com cookies (that keep passing, even when connections to atmdt.com are blocked using sudo nano /etc/hosts)

Camino seems to get totally bogged down and not do anything if I try to use Google Maps "Street View".

AWSOME very fast but the UI come on it is 2011 I remember we used this UI in what 2003? Get a grip Camino project. Not it is not just about looks but when I look at this it is so naff and ruins my experience. Get Firefox add-ons working in it and you got the best browser in the world there. This seems a hobby project to make a fast ass browser not to make it feature or UI rich. So I don't really use it as it seems only for the developers to play in and they are blind to easy it would be to be the developers of the best browser and not some hobby thing. Sad but AWSOME talk about a dichotomy.

Been using Camino since v,0.8. I like browser that's fast and simple and Camino does that for me. And for you PPC users, Camino is still the best for PPC machines.

Thanks again to Uncle Asad and the dedicated Camino developer team. I keep trying to use those "advanced" browsers like Firefox, Chrome and Safari; but I keep coming back again and again to Camino as my default browser. It's fast, light, simple and beautiful.

Camino is my favorite browser, but the version 2.1 (1.9.2.24 20111113195207) don't work properly with Mac OS X 10.7.2. When some file is downloaded from the web with Camino the Finder stops working normally and has to be relaunched.

I really can't use this because of one simple reason... The "Annoyance Blocker" does not work nearly as well, nor is as flexible, as AdBlock Plus in Firefox. I gave it a go as my default browser for 2 weeks and the ads everywhere, finally got to me. I'll say one thing though, when watching Flash (YouTube) video, or Silverlight Video (Netflix), Camino seems to use a lot less resources than Safari, Chrome, or Firefox. So Camino has become my "Netflix & Youtube Browser", just because of that :)

I'm afraid that Camino has been overtaken by Firefox and Safari, not to mention the Chrome offshoots, i.e., Chromium, SRware Iron, even Roccat. Camino, for me, is dog slow and tired when compared to the others; featurewise it just doesn't measure up. Camino will likely die a slow death. However, if it floats your boat, enjoy it while it's still around. Anyway,one can do better.

recent new lease of life put camino back on my mac and even in the dock - for some reason it always worked on some sites which others really struggled with. but something's really wrong with 2.1 (even the core2duo specific builds) as it can't get itself going even on google. despite this am happy camino's back and have i faith that the dev will fix all. (ignore my rating as firefox was playing up)

DON"T BOTHER! Even the developer can't give me a single reason why I might like Camino better than Safari or Firefox. I recently contacted them, and here's our email messages: ME: "On the homepage, there this link that says "We’ve created a page which points out some of the common differences between Camino and Safari ..." But on that page there is NO comparison, just paragraphs explaining how to migrate from Safari. I want to see a chart or screenshots or, preferably, a screencast showing the differences. On the What makes Camino special? page, everything I see looks just like what Safari and Firefox already do, so why would I want to switch? Is it faster, uses less resources (Safari's a hog!), what? QUOTE: "Built from the ground up exclusively for Mac OS X, Camino is designed to make your browsing experience better. With features like annoyance blocking, tab overview, and phishing and malware detection, Camino keeps you browsing safer and faster on the Web." Safari and FF both have annoyance blocking and tab overview, as well as anti-phishing and malware protection. So, what makes Camino so great? I'd need a very good reason to invest the amount of time necessary to setup and learn a new browser. And then there's Opera, which I know nothing about, but hate the name." CAMINO DEV'S REPLY: "Taste in browsers is extremely personal; everyone has a different idea about what differences are important. No matter what we put on the web site, the only way for someone to find out if they like Camino better than other browsers is to try it for themselves. We continue developing Camino because many people like it, and we want to keep offering that choice--we aren't trying to convince people to switch if they aren't interested. It sounds like you are happy with the browser you are using then, which is great! Stuart Morgan Camino Developer" ME: "So, you can't tell me a single thing about how Camino is different or better than Safari or Firefox? That doesn't say much for Camino! Doesn't matter how happy I am with them - if there's some valid reason to change, or at least try another, I would. But they must be faster, easier, less resource-hogging or SOMETHING! If they're nearly identical in all aspects, why bother? When I buy a new car, I don't buy the same year, and model as the last, I want one that's newer, faster or better in some regard." CAMINO DEV'S REPLY: "I could tell you about lots of differences--or you try Camino, for free, and see them for yourself. I can't tell you what's "better" because it's subjective. I have yet to see a browser that some people don't claim is faster than all the other browsers they tried, or takes fewer resources than the other browsers they've tried, or has the best feature set of all the browsers they've tried. Camino is developed by volunteers, working in our free time. I'd much rather spend my free time improving Camino than trying to hard-sell it to people. If you want to try Camino and see if you like it better than your current browser, great! If not, that's fine with us too. We're not selling cars; we don't have a financial interest in convincing you to use Camino. Stuart Morgan Camino Developer" Although I took the time twice to inquire as to the benefits of Camino, not a single one was noted - all I was given was a bad impression of it. Stuart seems pompous and apathetic - he said he could tell me "about lots of differences," but didn't. Evidently, Camino isn't faster, easier or better in any way, just different, and that's not enough to make me switch. It's not as simple as installing and knowing within minutes if I like it; At a minimum it will take several hours to discover all the features of a new browser and to know if I want to continue using it. I'm not willing to invest that much time without knowing WHY I might want to try it, and if Stuart's attitude is an omen of the way Camino's dev's respond to questions and support issues, I'll pass.

Downloaded version 2.1 but browsing was so sluggish I had to trash it and revert to 2.09. Running Mac Pro 2x3 GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon with 9 GB DIMMs OS X 10.6.8. Clearing cache and restarting both the app, and then the Mac, made no difference. Several pages would not even load. Some here knock Camino, but I know of no other browser that wraps icons in the Bookmark Bar for the speediest access of any browser I know of. Just hope the developers work out the sluggishness of 2.1. I'm looking forward to HTML-5.

To get your 1Password working in Camino (if « unsupported version ») - Quit 1Password and Camino - Show Package Contents of 1Password - Open Contents > Resources - Open SupportedBrowsers.plist in a text editor or a plist editor - In the org.mozilla.camino section, Change MaxBundleVersion to 2010.05.20 (for 2.0.7) - save I found this trick at Agile's forum, you have to change the date for more recent versions (something like 2012.12.31)

Reports of Camino's death have been highly exaggerated. Congratulations and thanks to Camino's dedicated development team.

1Password is known to crash Camino in some cases, particularly when customizing the toolbar. If you experience crashes, try removing 1Password's Camino integration.

Beats me why Camino users continue to favor the browser. It's UI, compared to Firefox, Safari, Chrome, you name it, is ugly, ugly, UGLY!

The best! Still my everyday browser and I've tried them all. This new version makes it as fast as Chromium or Lightning and as reliable/compliant as Opera. I love it......

Makes me happy to see updates on Camino. It's such an elegant, nice and lightweight and fast browser - my favorite choice since way back in 2002 when it started as Chimera. Wow, more than 9 years! This thing accompanies me almost almost as long as I'm on OSX. I just want to say a real big thank you to the developers who keep this juwel alive.

Oh wow... This thing is still around? Got to love biennial updates.

Great browser. Im glad that they are updating camino again, but i wish there was pin tab option like some of the other browsers. Id like to keep some sites open at all time. And also adress bar as search engine bar.

Faster to load and render than Chrome/Chromium, no extensions to drag it down, quick password access using Keychain (remember that?), many icons and other tweaks available, small dedicated crew of developers working because they love it, native Mac look - what's not to like? The perfect alternative to those Firefox/Safari/1Password blues.

The latest version of Camino crash on Mac OS 10.7.2. It is impossible to have an open window. The same applies to version 2.1 Beta

I recently noticed that this very site (MacUpdate) doesn't behave the same in Camino than in Safari or Firefox!!! - the top apps of the day (listed in red) are less (today 1 in Camino, 4 in the others — the 3 missing ones don't even show at all) - when you search for an app via the search field, it gives less or no results (try searching for "Camino", it drops you directly on "Camino Frost" while the others give you 48 results! Search for Cocktail or Awaken: no results! — 13 and 6 for the others respectively) Another brick in the wall... :-(

Camino 2.1b5 is also available at http://preview.caminobrowser.org/

Camino is still my favorite Mac Browser. It's fast, easy and good. All sites, plug ins and videos I need are working, the bookmarkmanager is great. Camino doesn't need more features or updates, it's perfet as it is. Safari, Firefox and Opera try to be more than a webbrowser, but I really don't need all these extras. So I don't panic about Camino's end as long as I can use it. And thank you for still supporting Tiger and PPCs!

Well, I can't remember since when I took Camino as my favourite browser! It was faster than the others at that time, but in the past year it became having problems with some sites such as myspace. Now that its future death is quite certain, I don't wanna feel like a rat leaving the sinking ship, but it's probably time to switch. Being still on ppc G5, I'll probably use TenFourFox as a main browser (as I keep safari mainly for a site I'm using a lot and for saving .webarchive format files). Thanks to all the developpers that worked on Camino during all those years! And in remembrance of the 'good old days', I give it 5 stars... ;-)

Read about Camino's future: http://caminobrowser.org/blog/ It doesn't look good.

Displays many websites at a poor quality. Interface is okay, but I think it can be improved also as Camino seems to be falling behind the other web browsers more and more.

In my opinion, Camino has the best bookmark management and bookmark bar of any current browser. On the other hand, its handling of streaming video-- especially on older machines--is problematic, with filled buffers sometimes slowing performance to a crawl, or a complete halt, and necessitating a "killall Camino" termination from the Terminal. And both Firefox and Safari handle some video that Camino can't. Also, on some web pages when using a mouse scroll wheel, there is a buffering problem that manifests itself by pages continuing to scroll even when the user halts the mouse action. The user is left "chasing" the scrolled page, which can be very annoying and time-wasting. To be fair, I have also seen this behavior on other browsers. Nevertheless, Camino remains my default browser with points for its speed and user friendliness.

Was once one of the fastest browsers around but no longer. In my experience, it lags behind Firefox and Safari speedwise. Featurewise it's blown away by Firefox, which is my browser of choice(FF4 really rocks). I keep Camino on hand because, for some reason, it's the only browser that will allow me to access/render a favorite web site forum properly. For a secondary browser Camino suffices but as a main browser....afraid not, at least not for me.

If I have to be honest it could be the Schtroumpfs's browser . . . .

Great but just lacks the community and extras you get with the others. Frustrating as it really is a great browser. It is very like what Debian have done with iceweasel. Simple, fast, effective, enhanced for one platform. The UI badly needs changed those icons are dated. I know it is surface but it matters to people. For so little effort it could be improved. Would be nice to see some kind of add on community like ff and chromeI gotta say that does hold this browser back. Out the box it can kick it with any other browser but try to pimp it - the results are not great or easy. I always have it but it is not my main browser but it has been and may be again.

Excellent browser.Have been using it since V.1 on both PPC and Intel machines.Add capability for extensions to it and it would be my perfect browser. Also for you Tiger users out there ,this update is working great on my G4 IMac.

I've been playing around with browsers these last few days: Firefox, Safari, Opera and now Camino. Overall, I'm currently sticking with Camino because it renders all of the sites I need correctly. Suddenly, after using the Firefox betas for a few months and rarely having issues I suddenly can't use internet banking with RC2. Safari looks good but is just a bit slower than the others. I just don't get Opera - every time I use it a number of pages are just a mess. So, going back to Camino - a browser I used to use a lot and glad that it's being worked on still. It does lack some features and nifty add-ons that the others have but it does render pages quickly and correctly most of the time. 2010 MacBook Pro here.

It's Fast and I like it!

Other web browser have a better development.

I absolutely love Camino simplicty and speed. The problem is I do run across issues with it on some sites that Firefox or Safari seem to handle no problem. I see odd display issues at times, or get problems with pages loading. And I get the occasional crash. This has lead me to use Firefox more often recently. It's been awhile since an update, so I am hoping the issues I am having may be resolved with an update.

That would be better if I can disable javascript and something like that easily (Now I have to open the Preferences). The same for clearing cookies, ...

An Intel i686 optimized build can be downloaded at http://www.gctv.ne.jp/~yokota/Camino/download.html (note that it has been given a graphite appearance). PPC optimized builds can be downloaded at http://www.rpm-mozilla.org.uk/

for me, this is too simply.....because the speed is not the only thing i care about

This program is my second most used browser, just behind Safari. It works like Firefox, but looks like it belongs on a Mac. It also uses much less RAM then Safari. As little as one-third of the RAM.

My only browser since many years and i often play with the advanced version like now 2.1a1 on their site

Camino would be a great browser except for one very annoying flaw: On the site, "my.yahoo.com", it does not remember the location of a clicked link and always returns to the top of the page instead of returning to the location of the clicked link. Safari, Firefox, and Chrome do not exhibit this annoying and strange behavior.

Super browser. Normal uses Safari, but Apple seems to have gone MS with RAM consumption. My Safari would with out any trouble eat up 400MB of ram. Camino takes about 125MB Safari does not have build in Tr/flash stopper. Camino does. It's just fast, small and get's the job done. // Jakob The very only minus is there is no in-browser PDF view.

Tonight, I was alerted to update Camino to the new 2.0.6 version, but just like when I did it with the previous one, 2.0.5, all my bookmarks and preferences had gone lost. Why can't this browser save all the settings and bookmarks between the updates. As soon as I have emptied the dustbin, I will remove the new version as well, because I find this behavior unacceptable. It sometimes removes stored passwords if they are not included in the keychain.

A great browser. Glad to see they are still working on it. Now if they would only added MathML support.

You are whinging about a free piece of software that is maintained by a very small team? So what you are really saying is you have had 10 months to learn how to program and contribute a fix to this community based open source bug yet chose not to help. That is completely unacceptable!!! In all seriousness though, I'm only joking with the above expectation but your comment is a little absurd. It takes time to analyse logs, data from Instruments and debugging information not to mention peoples everyday lives and endless other tasks. This project is a hobby developed and maintained by the kind folk who build it for the world (for free). I would suspect that the Netscape plugin API is some incredibly old tortuous code that is quite a pain to work with and understand but I'm only guessing :) Common log file locations are: $HOME/Library/Logs /Library/Logs /private/var/log if you would like to confirm file sizes. The largest log file I have is 2.8MiB which goes back to early 2007. Log files are rotated and archived using zip compression by the system to make the log files usually incredibly small. Speak to the Camino team in the forums and let them know it concerns you that it's not in a release build yet. Until then enjoy the program and ignore the extra generated error lines in the console logs. They are only a minor inconvenience in extra logged data and not something that has caused any significant issues

Was my browser of choice for a few years, a few years ago. It's advantages and disadvantages don't compare favorably Firefox, and now Chrome and Safari. FF, Safari, and Chrome all have dynamic ad blocking and other privacy/security/dev capabilities built-in or as extensions, leaving this as my fourth choice after those. It's too bad this browser takes "lean" to the extreme, and the UI elements are way overdue for a face-lift. They were... eh, to begin with.

Both these things can be done in Camino. To copy a tab, drag the favicon (the little icon before the name in the tab) to a new tab or empty space in the tab bar. To make links open in the background, select that option in Camino's preferences, under the tabs settings. ("open in the background", last option on that page) Now when you middel-click (with scroll wheel or ball, or when you hold down the command key) links will open in new tabs while the current page stays active.

I would really love Camino 2 as a browser, except for one really annoying bug: On 4 separate PPC computers running 10.4.11, Camino (and all other Mozilla products I have tested) show multiple page scrolling when clicking once in the scroll bar below the scroll thumb (or above, once it multiple-scrolls down). My primary computer is a G3 Pismo, but I have also seen this on a G4 Cube, G4 iBook, and G4 PowerBook. This bug is annoying enough to keep me away from all of the Mozilla programs, except for Camino, which is good enough to keep me coming back. Has anyone else seen this behavior, and/or have a suggestion for a fix (other than avoiding trying to use the GUI in a way in which it is _supposed_ to work, and works in all other applications)? ...and yes, I did submit a bug report to the Camino development team when Camino 2 was still in beta, but the outcome was that since this was not a Camino-specific bug, it wasn't their problem.

Camino WAS a great browser and may be again. However, it is currently crippled. Since launch of 2.0, and even in the current 2.1 beta versions, there is a bug that continually generates error messages in logs. These logs can easily build up to many gigabytes in size on the hard drive, and need some expertise to delete as they are hidden. I found 20 GB of these logs on my hard drive. Therefore, I do not recommend Camino 2 until, and if, this is fixed. I have been using Camino for years as my main browser, but I am now forced to revert to Safari and Firefox. Camino 1.x.x is no longer being supported and may have huge security holes. Reference: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=541897

Can't really beat it for speed on osx...or can you? I can't find anything.

Who needs Firefaux 4 when we have Camino? I certainly don't.

Optimized builds of Camino for older PowerPC machines: http://www.rpm-mozilla.org.uk http://theappleblog.com/2010/02/10/psst-want-a-fast-up-to-date-browser-for-your-old-power-pc-mac/

Just like it says; "lean and fast". Been using Camino for a few years now, and I really like the look and feel of the browser. Highly recommended, especially as a back up for Safari users for sites that Safari will not load properly. Would give a 4.5 if possible.

Excellent Browser... Very very fast, clean look and a nice alternative to Safari which still lags behind in speed. I wish developers can find a way to allow Firefox add ons to be compatible in Camino.

I swear by Camino. The support is spectacular and the new versions always bring unexpected but noticeable improvements. I have Safari, Opera, and Firefox onboard but have yet to see a benefit to using any of them that doesn't cost more in the end (in speed, stability, convenience, etc.). However, I do have a few suggestions for improvements: 1. Replace the interface icons. Make the main buttons more distinctive. I've used Caminicon to fix mine but even it doesn't have the variety I'd like. The buttons are functional, they just look pastel and visually weak. 2. Fix the downloader. I was going to say, "Man, is it slow!" But actually, it's more arbitrary. Right now, using Camino, I have six files downloading from the same server, all poking along at 15-20 Kb/sec. Then I have one file, started after the others were going for a longish time, that's "racing" along at 300+ Kb/sec. (Not as fast as Speed Download, but adequate.) The fact is, I can't rely on the browser downloader. If I walk away while it's ponderously downloading, it threatens to simply stop working. A downloader that is responsive, that can simultaneously download multiple files at a consistent speed close to what SD's would be the cat's meow. 3. Lastly, I'm having trouble with viewing some videos inside the browser. Didn't happen before. I wonder if it's a side effect of installing the new version of the Mac OS?

I have been using Camino for at least 8 to 10 years. Since I found out about it. Over the years it has been the MOST STABLE browser of all the browsers. I got my first iMac DV in 1999 and used IE and Netscape. When I found out about Camino and used it, I never looked back. I have used Firefox and read all of the raves, but Camino really is the best of all. Why would I want Google Chrome? Remember, Google is a data collector and disseminator. Right? Like using Facebook for your browser. Camino is just the best. It does not need to be flashy, just stable and reliable, which it is.

This is really an amaing browser that i've ever used,more stable than google chrome(never crash),and the most important,as it turns out that it's as fast as the others(or even faster i'd say),so then i choose to use it as my main browser! but there's sth bugs me a little: 1. Can't copy old tab to a new one with the same url(not so handy as chrome does when we need to open the same page twice) Keep working you guys!

Is not to look pretty but it works great one. Simple and easy to cause an impression of the Camino.

Scroll bars of windows in background stay colored. G5, 10.4.11.

Camino has been my number one browser for years now. It has the features I need and none of the ones I wouldn't use anyway. It zips through web pages. It has a clear, concise interface. And it seems to be far more responsive to basic menu commands than Safari and Firefox.

having tried this latest version of camino and have been really impressed with it, especially blocking flash ads and the like and being a lot faster than safari ......but once i am in my yahoo account the IM in new yahoo mail does not work, it either hangs showing no contacts or sometimes shows who is online but cannot open chat window with them ( i think this is fault (4277742 ) on the bugzilla page for camino a few other people have reported this, i tried sea monkey and the IM in new yahoo mail works fine. It's a real shame but for me this is a deal breaker so i may have to stick with safari for now as much as i liked sea monkey it had feel of pc about it ( but that is just my feeling about it ) may give it another try, so looks like i have to wait for this to be worked out ( like i said a real shame )

Great product - I originally was using Safari as my main web browser, but I went to Firefox, due to the plug in's Firefox that won me over as my primary web browser. Keep up the great work! This browser is still used on my computer and I will continue to use it!

2.0.2 Multilingual is also available here: http://caminobrowser.org/download/releases/2.0.2-MultiLang/

I have a problem with Camino. When returning from a clicked link, Camino always returns to the top of the referring page rather than to the position of the clicked link. This is very annoying but works properly with Firefox and Safari.

General Comment: No Mac application should EVER have the colour GREEN used for buttons or icons...whatever! (Especially on brushed metal). It looks cheesy and cheap. Not ever Apple has a GREEN Apple! Don't get me wrong, Camino is a terrific browser but please Mozilla change the UI to something classier..That is all.

Between Camino and Safari.. my heart swings... but if I found yet a better lover I'd go for it.. 'cause neither is really perfect... Safari is the memory hog monster we all know (i'm not sure why it is so hungry really)... and Camino is unfortunately less stable than Safari (at least in my setup... could have many causes I guess.. though which.. I do not know). So where is that perfect browser... I mean it's almsot 2010.. Shouldn't it exist by now ? I tried Chrome (sorry but I am so NOT impressed... I eve wonder it it is not some sort of ploy to scan my computer and send all info to the CIA lol). Anyway I'd like to make Camino my favorite browser but I am not just ready for the wedding... Girl has to get in shape a bit.

If you're experiencing crashes with Camino, please report them using the Camino Crash Reporter, and if you have persistent crashes, please post in the forum or file a bug. We've established the causes of some common crashes already; see http://caminobrowser.org/blog/2009/#camino2update for more information, fixes, and work-arounds (as well as links to both the forum and information about reporting bugs).

Camino works fine, a bit slow but camino never was a fast flyer for me... 1password works without a hitch so I have no idea what others are saying and about the tab overview... at least it is included and I like the way it operates... Maybe the user below me likes to see his tabs on the right but I like to see the whole page when I am browsing a page so tabs taking over the window with a hotkey is not slow and very efficient. Try it, it is free after all, and open source...

Nobody, but nobody, gets thumbnail tabs right except for OmniWeb. Put them in a scrollable drawer to one side (not top or bottom) which are visible by default. If you don't want to see them, close the drawer. If you want to re-order them, drag the thumbnails. If you don't like the size, change the width of the drawer. In Camino 2.0 (and, well, "others,"), you have to hit a special key to see thumbnails, and then the entire window is taken over by them. They should be visible as "thumbnails" all the time so that you can see what tab you want to view next. What other purpose could there be? And I see that Camino 2.0 still has jerky scrolling, but not as bad as Firefox. Would it kill someone to make the smallest scroll increment be one pixel?

Problem with 2.0 not working with 1Password 2.11.1, icon does not show in toolbar, nor does it show when you try to customize toolbar, still running Mac 10.4 Tiger.

My favourite browser by far..... until ver. 2.0 that is. Running Tiger on 2.5Ghz PPC machine and this new version is much too slooooooow for me (very un-Camino indeed!). Sticking with version 1.6 i'm afraid until I upgrade to a new machine.

The new version 2 still contains a bug which always returns you to the top of a page instead of the position of the selected link. Firefox and Safari do not exhibit this behavior.

The printing function on V2.0 of Camino has completely changed and now it mimics Firefox. This is unfortunate for Vision Service Plan's website printed great with Camino and not with Firefox. As far as I'm concerned this is a step downwards, not upwards.

I understand that the Camino team is small, but in the years since its debut, the browser world has changed, and it's just not clear what purpose this browser serves anymore. When Camino was released, Safari was in its infancy with a very limited feature-set and a long list of major sites that failed to render in webkit. Firefox was rough and slow and very badly integrated on the Mac OS. Camino gave you the attractive and mac-like interface of Safari with the powerful and widely compatible rendering engine of Firefox. A winning combination at the time. Well, in the last few years Safari and Firefox have made massive strides. Safari has matured rendering and feature-wise. Webkit is now considered one of the best and most compatible rendering engines on the market and is widely used on the Desktop and mobile space. It is rare indeed to encounter a site that Safari cannot render properly. Firefox is faster, more feature-full, and integrates much better into the Mac OS features and appearance. Camino has not kept up at all. Version 2.0 adds nothing terribly compelling and is essentially just trying to play catch-up with the big players. Camino's rendering, which used to be one of its big selling points, is far behind Firefox. Camino's javascript performance is about on par with Internet Explorer 8, and Firefox and Safari leave it in the dust in this respect. I just can't find any reason to use Camino at this point. If you want a quick-launching, completely mac-like app, use Safari. If you want a large integrated feature-set and true extensibility, use Firefox.

v.2.0 is working worse than 1.6. More trouble loading pages. Slower.

I used to love Camino, but its development has been so slow that many of the once enthusiastic extension providers have all but abandoned Pimp My Camino. The "essential" featured items there either don't work any more or haven't been updated in two or three years. There's still no adequate cookie control. Camino is now essentially the Lite version of Firefox and it's just too Lite. Though many still cling to it because it's so "Mac like" you have to wonder if they're still using OS 9 too. There are just too many good browsers out there now to justify using one this far behind the pack in development.

2.0 refuses to import my Firefox bookmarks.

And the Acid 3 Test is 72 out of 100. Chrome and Safari are 100 out of 100. Firefox 3.6 beta is 91/100. So why use it?

Using SunSpider JavaScript benchmark, I get 600-700 ms for Safari, WebKit, and Chrome. For Camino I get 3000 ms. What am I missing here? I would like to like this browser but 3000 ms for running Java Script?

2.0 - Whew, been waiting a long time for this

The new FlashPlayer update that just came out is crashing Camino on some sites

I've been using Camino as my primary browser since 2005. I started to use it not because I disliked FireFox or Safari, but because I was expressly looking for a different browser. I manage a web software development department, and my general philosophy has been that everyone in my organization should use whatever browser they wish. That way, we won't get into the mindset of developing for just a few browsers. (By the way, this strategy has worked wonderfully - we support all modern web browsers very well, and the transitions to new browsers, and supporting new technologies like AJAX has been pain-free). In any case, some folks in my shop were using FireFox, Safari, various IE flavors (on Windows), and Opera. At the time, I decided to go with Camino because no one else was using it. I've been loving it ever since. It has a great, well thought out user interface, and it has that tried-and-true Gecko rendering engine. It also has Flash blocking capabilities, which I love, because I'm not a big fan of the "dancing shadow" or "hit the monkey" web advertisements. It doesn't have the "plug-in feature" mentality of FireFox, but I can always fire up FF if I need some of those capabilities for work. Camino is rock-solid. In fact, I don't remember the current version, 1.6, crashing on me even once. And I use it every day. I'm using it now, in fact. I highly recommend Camino for anyone interested in an alternative to other excellent Mac browsers.

I've tried alot of different browsers on this site & from my experience this is the best of them all.

For "Snow Leopard" users: download from here the newest Java Embedding Plugin, and Java will work perfectly.

How is this better than Firefox? It has fewer features and is based on an older version of the Gecko rendering engine.

I love Camino. By far my favorite browser for Mac OSX. I feel everyone should check out the new 2.0b4 of Camino. I find it's really stable and has quite a few improved features over 1.6.9

Doesn't open some URLs ... or any at all after reinstalling. Anyone else with this problem?

I realize that almost every browser out there has its fans, and that what I am about to say will bring down the wrath of some readers, but I personally think the great profusion of broswers is silly (and, incidentally, makes life unduly hard for us poor Web designers). If all the brainpower invested in developing them were focused on smaller number, and if all the available knowledge about browser design were pooled, it is not difficult to imagine that the results would be better for everybody.