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Drive Genius is an OS X utility designed to provide unsurpassed storage management. Featuring an easy-to-use interface, Drive Genius is packed with powerful tools such as a drive optimizer, a comprehensive repair facility for analyzing, repairing and rebuilding volumes, plus excellent testing capabilities with media surface scanning, performance benchmarking and data integrity checking. It can be used to initialize drives, create and delete partitions, and erases them securely as per Department of Defense's standard. Drive Genius can also hide partitions and duplicate volumes or drives swiftly.

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Version 3.2.3:
  • Bug fixes

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OS X 10.6.7 or later

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In general, I like Drive Genius, and I keep it in my arsenal of utilities which I use to maintain my Macs. But there is no aura of "genius" level quality enveloping this application. The name if pure hype.

For example, just the more...

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Version 3.2.3
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Slarkin Member IconComment+24
Slarkin
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FYI: Why would anyone buy this utility which was created Wednesday, September 7, 2011 3:00 PM and modified Tuesday, August 20, 2013 7:06 PM according to my latest version: 3.2.3?? with all the change to OS 10.9 since then, Prosoft has done nothing to give me confidence to want to buy Drive Genius again if and when they finally do an upgrade.

I have owned and upgraded Drive Genius when Apple still has OS 9.

Until Prosoft does a major, effective and useful upgrade, I recommend that money not be wasted on this promo.

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Version 3.2.3
Xenophile
+1

Good questions. I would also add that OS X's Disk Utility does most of what Drive Genius does except for defragging, which is of dubious usefulness on modern drives and should not even be used on an SSD.

All most people need for OS X is the free utility Onyx (even that is overkill for the typical system).

If you must defrag for some specialized purpose (recording audio for example), then why not buy a dedicated defrag utility, or at least TechTool, which includes hardware test tools not included with OS X?

On more nitpick: Drive Genius has a bizzare GUI in which only half of the tools are shown at any given time, despite there being room in the app window to show all tools with room to spare. Apparently this "feature" is needed to show off the GUI animation the developer worked so hard on. Personally, I prefer less navigation and clicking. But I suppose those who are suckered in by these drive utilities are the same set who are easily impressed by gee whiz animations...

Tbanger9 Member IconReview+3
Tbanger9
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I'm not surprised it's on sale.... If you have Mavericks... BEWARE.... you need an external 16GB device to run it from. Not only that, it is a MAJOR head ****, to set up... They give all these instructions buried under reams of other info, but I can tell you from experience... it's a major pain. For various reasons, it took me over a week, to have this work properly.. and when I want to de-frag, I have to re-boot and hold down the alt/option key to choose which drive to boot from.... it's all very flaky...

Having said that.... I do now have an external drive and have managed to 'de-frag' my MBP.... but that is pretty much the ONLY thing I use this app for... and the results are questionable.... all the other stuff, for me, so far... have proven totally irrelevant. I really love the animations, and icons that I whizz through.... thinking, "oooh doesn't that sound good?".... but, in the end, it's a bundle of fluff....

This app is worth 5 bucks tops!!

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Version 3.2.3
Xenophile
+1

For $99, one is better off buying an SSD to use as a boot volume instead of defragging a spinner drive.

OS X doesn't need defragging anyways - defraggers are pure snake oil. OS X already defrags files on the fly using something called "adaptive hot file clustering". Some specialized applications may call for defragmenting a non-boot volume, for recording audio, for example. If so, there are cheaper solutions than Drive Genius, lol.

BigJohnson Member IconReview+170
BigJohnson
+4

WARNING!!!

There is a terrible bug in 3.2.3 that will hose your apps if you use the DriveSlim function.
Took me more than an hour to undo the damage done by DriveSlim - it removes folders it isn't supposed to touch.
Since ProSoft isn't candid enough to warn users, I am.

ProSoft says they are aware of the bug and "there is a newer version that is not public yet which you could use that has this Drive Slim issue resolved."

IMO when serious bugs are found, a fix for them should be released ASAP, not wait until until more features or other things have been added to the update.
I could understand if they wanted to finish testing to make sure it works correctly, but according to their message it's already fixed, just being withheld for some unknown reason.

And it would have been the decent thing to do to notify as many users as possible that using DriveSlim could render most apps unusable.
At the minimum there should be a big red warning at the top of this page and on every other download site it's hosted on.

I've lowered my rating due to it screwing up my system and wasting valuable time, as well as their failure to warn others.

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Version 3.2.3
Bowlerboy_jmb Member IconReview+210
Bowlerboy_jmb
+4

In general, I like Drive Genius, and I keep it in my arsenal of utilities which I use to maintain my Macs. But there is no aura of "genius" level quality enveloping this application. The name if pure hype.

For example, just the other day, when I had a few of my external LaCie Firewire drives hooked up to my Mac, Drive Genius' monitoring tool, called Drive Pulse, alerted me with a window that one of the partitions on one of the external volumes needed "repair." Fine. That's a good thing to be told about.

So, I clicked on the button to that alert to launch Drive Genius, and I navigated through DG's nicely animated tabs to the appropriate Repair panel. I then ran Rebuild and Repair twice, but neither attempt by Drive Genius succeeded in repairing my volume. According to Drive Genius, my volume was beyond repair.

Never one to take any individual hard drive utility as capable of providing a definitive answer like that, I launched Disk Warrior and instructed it to rebuild the volume. Disk Warrior had absolutely no problem no problem rectifying all the problems which Drive Genius was too smart enough to recognize but too stupid to fix.

So, if you want to improve your own Mac IQ, learn these lessons:
(1) No single Mac hard drive utility is so smart that it can solve all of the problems a hard drive might have.
(2) No single Mac hard drive utility has a such a set of features that it can be considered complete.
(3) All of the Mac hard drive utilities approach the problems of drive corruption, director corruption, and other flaws affecting your hard drive differently, thus some are better than others in fixing the problems, depending on their algorithms and approach.
(4) If you are serious about maintaining your hard drives and their integrity, you must have a wide range of utilities at your immediate disposal, and you must be willing to go through all of them when you encounter a problem that one cannot solve, because one of the others might.

For what it may worth, my favorite utilities over the years are (in no particular order of preference or priority):

* Disk Warrior
* TechTool Pro
* Checkmate
* Drive Genius
* Cocktail
* Disk Utility
* iDeFrag

There are some other, newer utilities that I've obtained in bundles, but I cannot say anything about them yet, because I have not yet been stumped by any problem that could not be handled by one of the regular stalwarts, listed above.

I keep my hard drives partitions into several volumes, each one set up under a different OS, ranging all the way back from Mavericks on a Mac Pro to Panther on a PowerMac G4 mirrored door work station, which still works quite well, thank you very much. In addition to having a wide range of hard disk utilities on various partitions, I also backup my working volumes religiously.
I use SuperDuper to clone to external Firewire volumes, which allows me to startup from those volumes, whenever I want to test out something I am not comfortable about installing on the internal hard drive of my original working volume.

I also back up remotely using CrashPlan.

If you don't back up your volumes, then you are just a fool who hasn't yet discovered that fact about yourself. It only takes one hard drive crash without a backup to give you a side on the whack of the head that you will never forget. Avoid the whack!

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Version 3.2.3
Unblocktheplanet Member IconComment+6
Unblocktheplanet
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I'm building a bootable 10.9 utilities USB but I'm wondering if DG works with Mavericks.

??? (Answer, please!)

OK, love DG. It's one of a suite of maintenance/repair utilities I use occasionally. I'm still using a spinner but apparently these utilities are unnecessary/ineffective (dangerous?) to use with SSD. Anybody know?

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Version 3.2.3
Strych9 Member IconComment+56
Strych9
+3

About defragging, OS X handles files in a very clever way but.

After installing updates of OSX, my mini was slow... HD is slow by himself...

I give a try by optimising/defrag and it solves the problem.

Certainly the system files were too fragmented, even if the program reports a small frag.

Really a huge difference! Perhaps it will helps you.

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Version 3.2.3
Sigil Member IconComment+208
Sigil
+0

I purchased version 2, but never used it. I was told several times that either defragging was unnecessary or it could harm my Mac. I would appreciate some solid advice from someone.

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Version 3.2.2
Virtualruffy
+1

Rarely is defragging necessary. Its a holdover from the old days of computing. OSX intellignently manages space to reduce or eliminate the need for defragging. I've not defragged anything but pcs in 10 years. Run repair utilities but skip defragging. Its also usually horrendously time consuming.

Aargl
+0

Disk Warrior, Drive Genius and the likes are indispensable for curing messed-up disks or partitions, but it's true that defragging is no more indispensable.
I did it only in rare cases when I have to restore an old system partition that have been messed up through the years, after having cleaned every other possible thing (disk structure and caches, mainly), "just in case" — I did recently on a Mac Mini G4, just because I didn't want to reinstall everything from scratch, which would be the right way to do... ;-)
On a modern Mac, it's very likely that you won't ever need it cos' disks are so fast that the fragmentation footprint is probably impossible to notice.

MisterE
+1

Defragging a drive with an instillation of OS X on it is pretty much a thing of the past however, you can reduce seek times and wear on a drive by defragging disks that you only store data on.

For example, I have a disk I use only for Bit Torrent because it runs the disk hard, torrenting is very disk intensive. So, the disk gets tons of activity from constantly uploading but, the data doesn't really change or move much so, in this case, defragging that disk means at least reduced wear and tear. Also, though I have no way to quantify it, it seems the disk runs cooler and, possibly due to reduced seek times, I seem to be peering better now. Might just be coincidence but I know my setup pretty well and did notice changes. YMMV.

Balanchine
+11

There are different types of fragmentation. File fragmentation, where a file gets chopped up and scattered around the disk, is the type that's handled automatically in OSX, which rewrites fragmented files that are under 20MB and have more than 8 fragments.

But there's also free space fragmentation. If the disk is close to full and the free space is heavily fragmented leaving no large contiguous space for caching, your Mac is going to suffer a performance hit unless you defrag.

BigJohnson
+3

Even on newer OS's, defragging can be beneficial. I have an OEM 500 GB SSD in my 2011 MBP running Lion, and even it shows fragmentation. I ran DG just now, and it says "the used space is 30% fragmented (26.55% of total space).

Since you already own the app, I suggest you run the scanner, and it will show you just how fragmented your drive is, so you can decide for yourself whether or not defragging is necessary. If not press the Cancel button, and the defrag process won't run. If you've never defragged your drive, I'll bet money that defragging will be beneficial. But this isn't something that should be done regularly, its a once or twice a year thing, unless you're moving and deleting huge files all the time.

However, it's MUCH faster and MUCH safer to clone your drive to an external drive and then clone it back. If you have two external drives, I recommend cloning to both of them so you have a backup just in case.

You should aready have at least one external drive that you're doing regular backups to (Time Machine?), and hopefully one of those are kept off-site (or you've backed up to the cloud). If you don't have an external drive you can clone to, RUN AND BUY ONE TODAY!!

You're begging for trouble if you aren't doing regular backups. How devastated would you be if you lost everything on your drive today? Data loss can occur at any time, and there's always the potential of a dead drive, theft, fire, etc.

MisterE
+0

There is no need to defrag an SSD ever! SSDs use wear leveling to distribute writes which makes the drive last longer because each block has a finite number of times it can be written to before failing. Seek times are irrelevant with SSDs because there are no moving parts so, it doesn't matter if the data is contiguous.

Pretty sure DG even told me not to or that it would not defrag my SSD when I let it analyze it once out of curiosity.

Also, ProSoft says DG preserves the "hot streak" installed by Mac OS X which is where the installer writes system files that need to load at boot in a contiguous "streak" to reduce startup times but, I'm not sure about this claim. It would be technically difficult to implement and, aside from a comment here on MU from someone from ProSoft, I've seen nothing in their documentation about this. This is another reason not to defrag and OS X boot volume.

I only recommend defragging drives used for data storage and that are accessed very frequently.

Your advice about backing up is sound though. In a perfect world there would be no need for this app as everyone would be doing redundant backups.

BigJohnson
+3

Never said I was actually going to defrag my SSD, just pointing out that it is currently 30% fragmented. This was to show Sigil that my drive is very fragmented, so it's likely theirs is too. It's true that disk defragmenting is unnecessary and not recommended on a solid-state drive.

SSD's do have a limited number of writes - an SSD can be written on a limited number of times before it becomes unreliable. An SSD made of MLC (multi-level cell) offers 10,000 cycles.

To help users estimate how long an SSD will last, SSD vendors such as OCZ have come up with formula: a drive's life span equals its capacity multiplied by its write endurance rating, divided by the average daily writes. For example, the 120GB Vertex 3 SSD has a write endurance rating of 3,000 cycles. If you write 50GB on the drive daily, the total number of days the drive will last before becoming unreliable is: (120 x 3,000)/50 = 7,200 days, which is about 20 years. If you write an average of 100GB a day, the drive would last about 10 years.

SSD life spans are typically longer than most computer lifespans (due to replacement or upgrade) so lifetime is not really an issue.


My older MBP has a standard hard drive, but I still won't defrag. As I said previously, it's MUCH faster and MUCH safer to clone, especially if you're using a FireWire 800, USB 3 or Thunderbolt drive.

Defragging is SLOW! From the DG User Guide:
"Defragmenting the system startup drive cannot be canceled once started. Do not shut off your computer during this process. If you are using a laptop make sure you are connected to AC power. Do not attempt while running from battery. It can take an hour to a day (24 hours) for a high capacity drive to complete the defragmentation process."

Cerniuk Member IconReview+183
Cerniuk
+2

Have been running DG for a while now. It flags problems via the menu so I am not caught by surprise, nice.

Irony today is that it flagged a problem on my data drive on my home server (media). I thought "nice, saved my back side" and perhaps the early warning did... but... when I tried to repair the disk with DG, it failed; said it could not be repaired (tried twice). So I opened Disk Utility and it repaired the disk without flinching.

:-\

But just before that I ripped a copy of a 5GB thumb drive (my Mountain Lion installer) to a disk image and it was really fast (much faster than Super Duper)

:-)

In my mind, Drive Genius needs to be that broad spectrum antibiotic for my drives first and foremost. It flagged the problem (nicely done) but could not repair it which was disappointing. Still recommend the product but the boys and girls at ProSoft need to step up their game a little ;-)

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Version 3.2.2
Prosoft-Engineering
+0

Hi - Cerniuk

Can you visit our Technical Support website and submit a case and we can look into this.
This is not normal behavior for Drive Genius 3 in any form.

When your filling out the Support form ask for Mike and I will help you right away. With little information to go on, its hard to tell what may be happening. We would like to hear from you if you a few mins this week. It won't take very long and we just need to collect a small amount of data from you to get started.

Cheers,

Mike Fiato
Prosoft Engineering
Technical Support Manager

Mcr Member IconComment+180
Mcr
+0

Just upgraded to 3.2.2, and for the first time, Little Snitch reports that DG upon startup wants access this:
ff15::737:1bad on UDP port 63237

This seemed very odd to me, for the record, this is a legit registered copy to me, installed using the installer downloaded directly from the DG site; this is not a hacked torrent copy or anything.

So far I have told Little Snitch to deny the connection and it seems to work fine, just curious if anyone knows what DG is doing here, because the access request seems very odd, almost 'viral'... A UDP port, why?

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Version 3.2.2
Prosoft-Engineering
+0

Hi Mcr -

When using Drive Genius 3.2 and later, two simultaneous network users are allowed at a time. Drive Genius initiates UDP connections on the local network (never the Internet) to determine the user count. In some cases we have seen 3rd party firewalls detect this activity from Drive Genius. If your firewall alerts you to this activity, it's recommended that you allow the connections. Once done, this should eliminate the constant firewall alerts and resolve the error.

Regards,

Mike Fiato
Prosoft Engineering
Technical Support Manager

Mcr
+0

@Mike Fiato, Prosoft

Thanks Mike for the explanation, I will allow it through then.

June8 Member IconComment+136
June8
+0

Very poor technical support.

I have a problem with the Event Viewer window of the Drive Pulse. If I open it multiple times in the same login session and change the period, it displays the same messages multiple times.

I sent screenshots about this problem but the tech support person was very poor to be able to see and understand the problem.

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Version 3.2.2
June8
+0

Problem solved.

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Downloads 217,437
Version Downloads 12,171
Type Utilities / System
License Demo
Date 22 Aug 2013
Platform Intel 64 / OS X / Intel 32
Price $99.00