Drive 10 Updater for Mac1.1.5

Micromat recommends TechTool Pro 4 for Tiger on their page with information on Drive 10. Drive 10 is not so bad, but when you're using Tiger or higher, use TechTool Pro 4 instead!

seems like alot of bad reviews for micromat, if all their stuff is so bad why is saying its the best available ? Is it really that bad ?

I have never come across software as bad as drive ten, I would lie to know why I was supposed to have bought the latest model yet it will not work with tiger

WARNING: This time (v1.1.5) the message "Drive 10 should be updated" should be taken seriously under Tiger. Drive 10 still works with Tiger, but has difficulties unmounting volumes, which can cause it to write a replacement directory structure to a mounted volume which obviously leads to an even more corrupt disk. Use with care, or wait for an update. Of course a boot CD with an older OS X version still works fine.

With a fresh Tiger installation, complete with Xcode and the CHUD tools, travelling appeared "no worky" on my Powerbook 17" (1GHz/1GB). Travelled - needed disk utility an d Disk Warrior to get it back to life. Travelled - same story. Decided to run Drive 10 to get it fixed and be able to further troubleshoot. Drive 10 is s-l-o-w. Scanning the drive took from 8 last night until... well, I went to bed at 1 a.m. and it was far from finished. So I don't really know. My 60GB disk is in the repairing stage since this morning early. We're now some 13 hours underway. Now Task 5 of 6, step 3.343.345 of 4,749,657. IF I'm lucky, I might expect it to finish with this task somewhere after 18+ hours from start repair. Seriously.. then it's 30 hours+ underway. The I hope - that everything is recovered properly - all possible bad blocks are flagged - all remaining blocks are tested good If Drive 10 can do all that. If not, going for my backup and doing an Archive & Install is the way out. Saves me at least in excess of 28 hours compared with Drive 10. And it gets more tempting by the hour.

Disk Warrior 3.0.2 could not fix my start-up disk after I had installed Tiger (error 2155, "directory too severly damaged"). However, I tried Drive 10 1.1.5 and it worked like a charm. Although it took nearly 1 1/2 hours, it was worth it. Drive 10 and Disk Warrior are the perfect companions for each other because one alone cannot fix all your problems. I recommend that you have both.

Like Defrag feature; use it after Disk Warrior

Horribly slow. Over four hours(!) just to fix the volume catalog on a 20 MB drive. This on a 1.3 GHz machine with 640 MB of RAM. A low-level format shouldn't take that long. And the whole time, the computer is unavailable.

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This soft is very simple and easy for everyone.

it does not really is usefull on the startup volume without extra work.

I use it ith 10.3.4 and it works great. I have a partition that i defragmnet once in a while and it works great with Drive 10.1.5. To those complaing, have you read the manuel and used it with a compatible system?

I have found Drive 10 to be a highly reliable utility over many years and many hardware configurations.

i got this free with a new purchase and know i now why its free .IT SUCKS dont every use this app. It made it so my mac wouldnt boot up at all. Had to boot with system cd. Had to reinstall system. Free means crappy ware. time to forget this app and make something new.

Listen....This program works!!! I have an external hard drive for my mac that was not able to mount. I tried everything including Disk Warrior....nothing worked....This program fixed the problem. It works!

DiskWarrior is in mind the best tool for repairing.

This updater does not seem to work. It creates a file called drive-10-v115-updater.sit.updater and goes into a circulat pattern when you try to unstuff it. Getting rid of the download extension allows you to unstuff but you just wind up with another folder with the same name.

Disk WARRIOR rules! Micromat sucks! They ben just stilling my money in past!

Get DiskWarrior. This software was never great, has been replaced by a version of TTP and support is very poor. DiskWarrior is all you need. PS Avoid Norton at all costs.

Last crap I've used for my disk. It takes too many hours to repair and to optimize the disk. At the end you can repair all the disk again cause the disk is not repaired. Don't waste your time!

Before DiskWarrior 3 was available, Drive 10 saved my bacon on more than one occasion. Although I also have a copy of DiskWarrior 3, I will never throw away my copy of Drive 10. Thanks for the update!

I have Drive 10 for 2 purposes: optimization and volume structure repair. For everything else, there is Norton.

can anyone say DiskWarrior? If there is nothing wrong with your drives and you just like having something running all the time then Drive 10 is nice to look at while it does nothing.

Nice to get rid of the ´Needs updating dialog' Runs perfect.

Have been using Drive 10 for the past few months on Jaguar, and it has fixed my hard drive on numerous occasions. However, it takes longer than any other app I've ever used -- normally a 4 to 5 hour job to do a volume structure test (this is NOT in conjunction with the Surface Scan test, which would take hours longer), and often my Mac crashes at the end of the test if it happens to go to sleep. Now having upgraded to Panther, Drive 10 comes up with a dialog box, "Drive 10 should be updated -- this product has not been tested with your current System version." I'm running the most recent version of Drive 10, (1.1.4) and tech support tells me that it indeed "has" been tested even though I get these error messages. So, this doesn't instill a lot of confidence in the product.

The previous poster is incorrect. Panther MOST CERTAINLY still requires a defrag utility. From the notes: "Everytime an application opens a file for reading, HFS+ checks if the file is fragmented and is less than 20MB in size. If so, it copies the file's contents to a continuous region on the disk and frees up the previously allocated blocks." In other words, files 20 MB and smaller get automatically defragged. Files larger DO NOT.

I have a Dual G4 867 running Panther on non Journaled disks. I just purchased Drive 10 1.1.4. I just ran disk check on one of my partitions. It was fine. Then, I ran an optimization and half way through, Drive 10 crashed. The drive that was being optimized -- dismounted and I had to reboot and verify and repair the disk using Panther's built in disk utility! There are no help files to refer to in Drive 10! Stay away from this product!

Drive 10 won't defragment a drive under Panther. Panther automatically "journals" the hard drive rendering the defragment function null and void. I haven't tried Norton, but I'm desperate, so here goes another hundred bucks. I miss my PC

I purchased Drive 10 for my PowerBook G3 500. After running all the tests successfully I attempted to defragment my hard drive and received an error stating that I needed to run the tests that I had just run? I called the surly tech line and was informed that it is a "Known Problem" with G3s and that a new release would fix the problem but they did not know when it would be out. When I asked for a refund, they told me to go to the Mac store where I purchased it. The Mac store does not accept retuned software. Looks like I'm going back to Norton.

I am puzzled by the negative reviews of Drive 10 on this site. I have had nothing but great results from this product. I have experienced several hard drive crashes were the system became unbootable from the hard drive, that I was able to repair with Drive 10. After those experiences, I swear by the product.

Drive 10 ...don't let it within 10 yards of your mac. It's completely screwed up my machine and many others if you read all the reviews here. So much for the free copy of Tech Tools I was promised... that was six months ago. This software is dangerous!

Seek Professional ADVICE do not take the word of an Admature over a Professional. Although their have been a lot of bad comments about this program, I have found it to be very useful and helpfull when used correctly!!!, I have tested it and have optimized my 10 Gig HFT+ Hd on my Ibook 466 MHZ, inwhich I have had trouble with due to bad Sectors Etc... Before I had used Disk 10 version 1.1.4, I had used Norton's Scan Disk feature in which it did repair minor problems regarding the volumes etc.. it would not correct my HD completly, due to the fact that it would correct the HD Bad Sectors completley, so once some time had passed and files were written on the bad sectors that's when all hell would break loose (Don't know why maybe due to the fact that Scan Disk was not designed for the Mac OSX ESCLUSIVLEY it was just ported over from the PC) To make a long story short I would recommend Drive 10 Updater (Version 1.1.4) over the Norton Scan Disk utility. Food for thought you can find reviews form PROFESSIONAL individuals for pratically any Mac Software such as Drive 10 and other applications,such as (See below) http://www.macnn.com/ http://www.macaddict.com/ http://www.mactoday.com/ http://machome.com/ http://macfixit.com/ http://www.macnn.com

Great program when it runs. Hard to start up, with a quirky press "C"when CD-ROM disc installed in dive. I like buying software from new companies, and not from the likes of Norton, but I wouldn't recommend Drive 10.

Great product. Whilst running a dept of 30macs as well as 2 at home, this has got each system out of trouble - even when the OSX machines are running OS9.2 natively [you will have to boot back into OSX though]. It doesn't touch usb drives at the moment.

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The latest version is very good, I had some trouble with earlier versions. DiskWarrior 3 is the absolute number 1 for me and Drive 10 is number 2, but will retire when TechTool Pro 4 arives. You can buy Drive 10 and get TechTool Pro 4 for free! Great offer for new customers!

First off, I'd like to point out that besides Apple's disk util, this is the only disk utility that has been designed from the ground up for use with OS X volumes. Norton Utilities turned my computer into a $3,000 paperweight, and I had to get a new hard drive just so I could re-install OS X. (Norton messed up the drive so badly that the OS X recovery disk could not unmount it to erase it... now THAT"S bad.) If you use OS X, this is the only disk utility for you to use, and that's just as well. It's a fine application.

I won't buy from them again. Tell all your friends to stay away from this product and this company. Better off using Apple's disk utility program and just re-installing OS X if you have a serious problem. I haven't tried disk-warrior yet but I will. May get a new upgrade of Norton Utils. I gave Micromat every opportunity to satisfy me and they just wanted more of my money for TTP4 even though it doesn't even exist yet. New buyers of Drive ten get a free upgrade to TTP4, older customers get the shaft! I can't imagine TTP4 is any better though. Save your money.

I had a dead volume on an external HD, and Drive 10 brought it back to life in about two minutes. That's about as good as it gets!

I've had good luck with this program, but have noticed that if you are running an optimize from a CD-ROM that doesn't have advanced error correction, then , yes there might be corruption of the hard disk. UNIX is a very unforgiving programming language. But blame that on cheap (or dirty) CD-ROM drives and the miserable CD format that the US has embraced for 20 years now and that has no built-in protection from scratches, as many other failed formats DID, such as MD.

Man... I am tired of the Warez folks who downloaded this wonderful product downing it to such a point to try and make Norton Symantec SystemWorks 2.0 for OS X look good... Norton SW 2.0 is unstable and not native to OS X... Drive 10 was created to be Stable for OS X... It gives you good optimization when not a Warez copy... All you do is load into this program by holding down the C button... this program than loads... asks what language you want to start in... and boom your on your way for BASIC testing of your Hard Drive and BASIC reconstruction of it if there are bad sectors etc... Optimization is a must for any OS... Even Mac... This is the way to go...plus when you buy this program in April you get a free version of Tech Tool Pro 4... NATIVE again to OS X... So for the whinners... STOP it. For the Warez... folks... Your all busted... Have a nice life... to all the anon's... They are probably the Warez folks.

Excellent in all categories!

I provide techsupport for dozens of Macs and, for years now, the ONLY MicroMat product I recommend is TechTool freeware. I have tried all MicroMat's products and I refuse to recommend them (with the one exception I have noted) to anyone.

How do these people get away with this crap? Toasted my TiBook. Now they want me to pay to upgrade this garbage from 1.0.5 to 1.1 !!! Total Bullshit

This is what norton should have been doing. I trust my Mac with this program. Norton seems to be a crap shoot anymore. cam --tech

Drive 10 worked for me. I had a 120MB Firewire hard disk that neither Apple's tools nor Norton could fix or even mount. I was about to erase the disk along with a number of important files, but decided to buy Drive 10 v 1.1.3. The program fixed the hard disk completely, to my great satisfaction. It took quite a long time for Drive 10 to first scan the hard disk for errors and then to repair it. But so does Apple's Disk Utility... I also tested Drive 10 on an a iBook. The program reported errors. However, the repair function indicated that it would repair the hard disk to contain 0 (zero) bytes. Obviously, I did not "repair" this hard disk. There must be something wrong in the program. Maybe Updater 1.1.4 has fixed this bug.

Another updater, like 1.1.3, that won't work to update my version 1.1.2.

Doesn't work as usual. I am running version 1.1.3 but the updater thinks I am running a very early version.

I find that for me the only thing that's worth it on this program is the HD Optimization, as it seems to do a better and quicker job than Norton at it. Though I have had both Norton and Drive 10 nearly *ruin* my HDs on two *different* macs with their so-called "Disk Repair". If you need to repair your disk or directories, trust me that Alsoft DiskWarrior is all you'll ever need. It may be OS9 (OSX coming soon) but it runs circles around Norton and Micromat.

My laboratory has has several Macs that are used for a wide range of tasks from simpe word-processing to sequence analysis. I used Micromat products for years to help maintain our systems. The first version of Drive 10 cured me of that. As of late, have been very disappointed with the value and utility of their recent products. The feature set is poor, especially considering the price that they charge. While not perfect, I strongly recommend either Norton Utilities, Disk Warrior, or Apple's own technical software.

Works great, had speeded up my machine, good software!

Agree with wordman. I have had no issues with Drive 10. A little slow but zero problems. I use it for 'maintenance' not for last ditch recovery efforts.......... Maybe that is the difference.? Looking forward to TTP 4

It couldn't recover my drive, but I managed to get the data using DataRescue. Overpriced. Better to wait for an upgrade to TTP4. Disk Warrior is still the best.

Nice Interface, have not yet encountered problems for it to fix. Very very very slow is the optimize volume routine...

Don't use Drive 10!!! This product completely hosed my entire system when I ran it. I immediately deleted it when I used OTHER products to fix it's mess (and I DID lose data... Thanks for nothing Micromat!)

Use xChek which you can find at: http: //www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/10142 It's free, funny, never claims to work, but probably does more good than this crap!

I read somewhere that this was an interesting application. Then I got quite surprised when I learned it was from Micromat; I tried and HATED them in OS 7,8 & 9 (i've just installed X). Now, reading other people's (bad!) comments, it looks exactly like what I would expect from them. I won't try it. DiskWarrior is SO smooth! (well, it was; still to try in X :)

If the first five or six reviews below are any indication, this application should be kept out of the hands of easily-angered illiterates (aviod? dark ally?). The problems reported below by the alphabet-challenged have simply never happened to me ... not even close. I have found Drive 10 to be easy to use and fast, doing fixes when needed, and optimizations that left my HD running in a noticeably zippier manner. Highly recommended!!

CLAIMS OPTIMIZATION ABILITY, BUT HAS NO SUCH FEATURE. MORE BOGUS NONSENSE. AVIOD.

Well now I've updated and tried 1.1.3. 12 hours later it had lost track of what it was doing. Of course it wouldn't quit so a force quit was necessary. The drive was mounted in an external firewire box so then I mounted it with Disk utility and (risking all) ran Nortons 7.03. 15 minutes later I had a repaired drive (confirmed by Disk Utility). So it may not work for you but for me Drive 10 did nothing useful in 12 hours and Nortons fixed the drive in 15 minutes.

I was about to download the update but having read the reviews I think that I will give it a miss. Most disconcerting was notcomment from Micromat themselves. I have used 10.1.2 and it takes around 10 hours to work when starting off the CD but it seems to work - and it *is* the only option from OS 10. This time I'm going to run it off another drive - I'll let you know how it goes! I include email address as anonymous comment has little value.

How Qaint!....It's a legal virus ....We need someone to develop a program to protect us from this kind of garbage. I think I'll request MacUpdate to add another feature called "Watchout List"

Total disaster. Every time it reaches the volume test it totaly locks up the whole system, the dreaded rainbow ball appears and none of the force quits will work. I have system 10.2.3. This occurs using the boot drive or from a booted external drive.

Has destroyed an iBook, an 800 GHz iMac and a TiBook. best advice is to keep away from it. Disk Warrior was needed to bring all three back to life. had to totally reinstall OS on all 3 eventually. I am not sure what it does, and I sort of reckon micromat is not ver sure either. Definately DO NOT use the optimization feature unless you have several hours (or more), a copy of Disk Warrior and all Mac OSX Updaters. Does anyone know of a good OS X utility program that actually fixes things rather then wrecking things? PS I am still waiting for Micromat's support to provide me a CD of Tech Tools 2.x that actually boots, have been waiting for a couple of years now (as original never did), after 20 odd emails and lots of hassles, I should have not purchased Drive 10.

I also have version 1.1.2 which this update refuses to update. I share others disappointment in Micromat for the poor development of this software. Most of the features are not yet active and those that are work very slowly. I would recommend against anyone purchasing this program at this time.

UTTER CRAP - They should be banned from MacUpdate for good. I'd like to meet the developers in a dark ally.

Useless. It failed to fix volume structure problems on my drive, and I can find no Support page on their web site. A waste of money.

I have used MICROMATs products from the beginning. There products have always been reliable and effective. THIS product being the exception. It is VERY slow at fixing anything. How can i expect this company to make a utility to repair my drive when they are unable to make a simple updater for their product work as its supposed to! RIDICULOUS.

throw your puter off a cliff and set it on fire and it would still probably work better than installing this piece o crap

I am using version 10.1.2. Updater to Drive 10 v113 is not working on my computer. It says "No installation was necessary. The files top be installed are already on your disk, or are not needed for your hardware setup." I am wondering WHY?

Ran the updater and then used Drive 10. No problems. But I don't seem to have any problems for it to fix at the moment. Still using OSX10.1.5 though (not Jaguar). It has fixed problems in the past though.

It is a very good software, much better than Norton !!! But the kid who don't arrived to use it, don't use it with intelligengy. It works on the special CD to optimize your HD !!!

I need to agree with others. This utility does not seem to do anything. I was having a ton of problems after upgrading to 10.2.3. Prior to updating, I always do the usual rituals of checking the disk (I normally boot back to 9 and use disk warrior but this time, used a combination of disk util and drive 10). Neither found problems when in reality (as I found out later), there was a minor error on the boot drive (file count did not match) which caused around 10 kernel panics in a 36 hour period. The error probably got worse after each subsequent lockup (the initial fsck on reboot doesn't seem to run multiple passes) but Drive 10 found no problems when booted from another drive. Rebooting single user and manually running fsck several times finally fixed the problem.

Does nothing.....Installer says I need to buy latest upgrade version....Well I did...legally & registered ...I got suckered into shelling out $30 more after buying the original just 4 months earlier! Then the Installer says "No installation is necessary files are already on your disk" I f that is true....why is mine still saying i have 1.1.2? So much for truth in advertising "The First & Final Disk Utility for Mac OS X" Ha!......Bahhhhh Humbug!

I'd say pouring salty boiling water into the back of your computer would get better results -

This software is pure crap. Doesnt fix a darn thing, simply makes things worse.

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Gee - this program is fantastic - every time I have run it it says that there is nothing wrong. Even though there obviously is. - Lucky I got it off limewire.

I just got this program and tried optimize my hard drive. it told me that their wasa a volume structure problem and that I should repair it, but when I ran volume structures it said that all was fine. So I decided that I wanted to return it and since I live in santa rosa (where micromat is hq) I tried to go to their office only to find out that is not their office all except for a mailboxes, etc drop off. the women at the counter said this was their mailbox location and that I should contact them by phone. This makes me wonder if micromat is a legitimate business???

I bought version 1.0.4. Now they want me to buy another CD (1.1.1) before it can be updated. They must be joking. Like others I found it prevented the system rebooting. And it often did't reach the end of its checking routine. Beautiful looking software, but it doesn't repair properly, and can destroy your system. Use DiskWarrior when it releases its OS 10.2 CD.

This thing is very dangerous. Had to reinstall OS twice after trying to use it. Stay away from it. Norton's is much better product, had no problems with it

Très bien

I agree with the majority. I ran this piece of junk, and I have been 8 hours trying to gete my G4 to reboot. Stay completely away from this product.

Poor solution at best and it really leaves the user hung out to dry. Mainly because it does not offer the user a way to make a new boot CD. With the ability to fix problems this update is useless!

Drive10 1.0.4 killed the drive in our G4 1GHz/DP. It didn't want to boot although all files were available and the drive mounted under 9.2.2. Running Disk First Aid said that there was a serious problem with the drive which it couldn't fix. However DiskWarrior 2.1 was able to fix the disk (after booting the G4 with a CD-ROM containing MacOS 9.2.2 and accessing DiskWarrior via AppleShare on a different Mac -- our DiskWarrior CD doesn't support the latest G4's). We bought Drive10 last week together with the G4 and the CD-ROM didn't have version 1.0.5 of Drive10. Maybe the problems could have been prevented with the latest version.

What the hell . thanks alot to the makers of this crap product. messed up more then repaired. After restart it couldnt find my drive . i hate u guys for making this crap product . please quit making it and ripping the public off. i hope you all get fired for being so stupid.

This product is CRAP. It (Twice) completely killed a healthy OS. I ran it on a new G4 installation. After it did it's thing (whatever that is) the machine would not boot. I re-installed and then before doing anything else, ran it again. Same result. Save your money.

Too bad this program is a complete waste of time; the interface is nice, butthe program is useless. It gives incorrect repair information (your disk isn't bad...the program is)...

Drive 10 is a waste of money. Look for another disk repair utility from a company that cares about service and provides a product which is advertised honestly.

i'm looking forward 2 get back 2 nursing home 2 c if it worked!!!!!!!!

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I really like the progress bar information - with 1.0.3 I couldn't tell if the program was working or I was in some kind of "infinite loop." Lansen

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I don't no what to say, I don't work whit Drive program

Since doing any significant repairs requires rebooting from the Drive 10 utility this updater is only useful if a bootable "updated" version is made. After calling tech support I was emailed a 1 page document that involved a very ellaborate procedure for creating a new "bootable" version. The engineer warned me it was challenging and it was. There has to be a better way to get an update. This is a significant problem and an disk image should be provided.

Drive 10 is advertised as the First and Final Disk Utility for OSX. Only part of that is true for me...It is the Final product I purchase from Micromat. No support, infrequent updates, limited features. Buy something else.

Drive 10 is a great diagnostic program for OS X. Easy to use, and even fun to look at. I highly recommend it!

Drive 10 continues to be dangerously useless. It stalls the computer, corrupts directories, and is unsupported by Micromat, in fact, despite the polite ignorance with which enquiries are handled.

This is effectively the OS X version of Micromat's TechTool Pro.