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QuoteFix
QuoteFix 2.4.7
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Enables bottom-posting for Mail messages.   Free
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QuoteFix is a plug-in for Apple Mail which enables "bottom-posting": instead of replying above a message (as Apple Mail does by default), it will place the cursor below the original message when you reply to, or forward, a message.

Other features include:
  • removing the senders signature from the reply
  • customized attributions (including HTML and templating)
  • and generally cleaning up replies/forwards so your messages will look good, clean and spiffy
What's New
Version 2.4.7:
  • Fixes a bug in cases where the user created a keyboard shortcut containing both Cmd and R keys.
Requirements
Intel, Mac OS X 10.6 or later



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Negritude commented on 24 Feb 2012
My personal opinion is that whether you prefer top-posting or bottom-posting depends on how long you've been using virtualized communications technology.

If you know what a dial-up Bulletin Board System (BBS) is and have used one, you probably prefer bottom-posting.

If you fondly remember something called the ARPAnet -- which was created by federal, military, and scientific institutions, not for-profit corporations -- you probably prefer bottom-posting.

If hearing the names "Archie" and "Veronica" makes you think of something other than cartoon characters, you probably prefer bottom-posting.

If when you think of "The Matrix", you think of a book instead of a movie, you probably prefer bottom-posting.

I could go on, but my basic point is, I think the explanation for one's preference is at least partly generational.
[Version 2.4.5]

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Cunamara replied on 08 Apr 2012
It messes up the logical flow of reading.

What's wrong with top posting?



I think that one's preference for posting style is based upon whether one's practical or scholastic education involved learning how to write in an incisive, analytical and logical manner. While not universally the case, I find that top posters too often lack those skills in the first place. Many of those meet all the "criteria" you suggest for preferring bottom posting (which BTW is a markedly inaccurate term).
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Mplem reviewed on 06 Dec 2011
Quite good but doesn't work when you have a automatically pre-selected signature in your message.
You must answer first, then chose your signature.
(And sorry for my English !)
[Version 2.4.3]


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Alderete reviewed on 06 Nov 2011
QuoteFix has been a godsend for me, allowing me to use Mail.app properly, instead of perpetuating the perversion that is top posting. The software has always worked as advertised, and when I've had minor issues, the developer has been highly responsive. Recommended.
[Version 2.3.2]

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Ean replied on 06 Nov 2011
Why is "top posting" perverse?
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Zo219 replied on 06 Nov 2011
Yeah, why?
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Thoiz_vd replied on 07 Nov 2011
Why would anyone who's interested in your reply want to start reading with what they wrote themselves? Unless your response speed is very, very low, I think this is counter-intuitive.
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Robert Klep (developer) replied on 07 Nov 2011
Whether top-posting is better than bottom-posting is mostly a matter of personal preference: for some people it just makes more sense that a response follows the original message.

This especially makes more sense if you, like me, tend to not include the entire original message (because, like Thoiz_vd says, who's interested in reading what they wrote themselves?), but just highlight the portion to which you want to respond. Together with the Mail preference "Include selected text, if any; otherwise include all text" this makes for clean, concise and to-the-point replies.

By the way: bottom-posting can be turned off, in case any other features of the plug-in might be of interest :-)
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Wile-E. replied on 19 Nov 2011
Ean replied on 06 Nov 2011
Why is "top posting" perverse?

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
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Quiiick replied on 23 Feb 2012
@ Wile E.
That's funny but your example is NOT a result which top-posting produces. Top-posting does not rearrange every line of text neither does it remove quotation level marks/colors.
Top-posting vs. bottom-posting is just a matter of personal preference, not a matter of right vs. wrong.
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Mrhooks replied on 02 May 2012
Top- vs. bottom-posting is not a matter of personal preference.

One of the reasons why top-posting is bad is that the people who use it don't actually use the included text for anything. They pretty much have their email clients set to include original text and then forget about it. IMHO they might as well not include it at all, because all it does is increase email sizes unnecessarily. Correct use of bottom-posting involves breaking up the original text, deleting what is unnecessary to include, and replying to the rest point by point. In essence, each point becomes its own mini-thread, and there is absolutely no confusion about each one's logical flow. It also allows for a more oral-conversational approach to correspondence, because you no longer have to restate what was in the original email in order to make clear what you are replying to.

That said, I'm not entirely sure what this app is for. Mail still puts signatures below included text, which is what's most important. Where the cursor is when I begin a reply is unimportant when I'm going to be breaking up the included text from the top down, then inserting my replies in between the pieces. Also, forwarding is different from replying in that the included text is left intact for the recipient to read, in which case top-posting is usually preferred (by me at least).
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Alderete replied on 03 May 2012
@Mrhooks: Give QuoteFix a try, and you may find that you understand its value better. It makes using natural, logical bottom posting easier for me. It's not a huge difference, you can use just Mail.app as you describe. But it's just a tiny bit quicker and more convenient with QuoteFix.
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Mikofox had trouble on 20 Feb 2012
The latest version 2.4.4 would not update automatically. Just seems to download the file but then the update fails. Downloaded it then from the website and moved it into the Bundles folder manually, but afterwards Mail would not open at all. OS 10.6.8. Prev versions worked okay.
[Version 2.4.4]

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Robert Klep (developer) replied on 23 Feb 2012
Could you create an issue for this on the Google Code website? http://code.google.com/p/quotefixformac/issues/list

Makes it easier for me to track it :-)


Jean-Jacques Cortes rated on 06 Nov 2011

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Downloads:1,325
Version Downloads:154
Type:Internet : Email
License:Free
Date:02 May 2012
Platform:Intel
Price:Free0.00
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QuoteFix is a plug-in for Apple Mail which enables "bottom-posting": instead of replying above a message (as Apple Mail does by default), it will place the cursor below the original message when you reply to, or forward, a message.

Other features include:
  • removing the senders signature from the reply
  • customized attributions (including HTML and templating)
  • and generally cleaning up replies/forwards so your messages will look good, clean and spiffy
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