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SixtyFour
SixtyFour 1.0.5
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Reduce memory overhead by opening apps in 32-bit mode.   Demo
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SixtyFour is a memory optimizer, created to force 64-bit apps to open in 32-bit mode for G5-based and 64-bit-capable Intel hardware low on memory.

An app opened in 64-bit mode uses significantly more memory than its 32-bit counterpart. On systems that have little memory available, it is better to open a 64-bit app in 32-bit mode. Forcing a 64-bit app to open in 32-bit mode reduces its memory usage significantly and its startup time. Eliminating the memory overhead could potentially lead to an increase in overall system performance.
What's New
Version 1.0.5:
  • Various new features
  • Tested on Mac OS X 10.7
  • For a limited time only, pay what you want
Requirements
PPC / Intel, Mac OS X 10.5 or later



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Tom E. Gun commented on 13 Feb 2012
If you're such a smart developer, can you explain why do you compile your own app also as a ppc64 executable?
There is/was no PowerPC 64-bit capable mac ever!
[Version 1.0.5]

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1951fdg (developer) replied on 13 Feb 2012
Power Mac G5.
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2003/11/18Apple-Introduces-New-Dual-Processor-1-8-GHz-Power-Mac-G5.html
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Espiridion commented on 14 Jan 2012
Although focused on working with audio, some people may find this interesting as it addressees many of the questions that have been posted regarding speed, memory usage, and performance.
http://www.meldaproduction.com/audiotutorials/32vs64.php
[Version 1.0.4]

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1951fdg (developer) replied on 14 Jan 2012
Thanks for the link!
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Penguirl commented on 14 Dec 2011
I guess there's nothing wrong with running 64 bit apps in 32 bit mode but if they don't have enough RAM that just means more pageins & pageouts which adds additional wear to your HDD or SSD. Better really to have enough RAM to meet your needs.
[Version 1.0.4]

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Edgarcabrera replied on 14 Jan 2012
Under Lion, Spotlight must be active in order to have App Store working fine and generally for the OS X, thus adding more pageins & pageouts... I would add a better memory managing under Lion as well, so the enough RAM will be really optimised... I was able to have around 60% of free RAM in 32 bits with 2Gb under normal conditions, now with Lion and 4Gb, I manage 38% of free RAM in 64 bit... therefore the memory managing in Lion is utterly horrible and more RAM will never be enough :(
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Nick Collingridge replied on 14 Jan 2012
@Edgarcabrera: Don't say that Lion is horrible at memory management unless you TRULY understand the deep-down details of what and how it is performing this function.

The amount of "Free" RAM is not necessarily that significant - much of the RAM marked as "Inactive" is not free simply because the system has not needed it. It is better to keep inactive program code and data in RAM than flush it to disk because it may be needed again (because of a context switch for example) before a program needs totally new RAM, and that way you avoid the delay involved in getting the code/data back into RAM from the hard disk as you would get if the OS maximally flushed stuff to disk in order to maximise the amount of "Free" RAM.
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Edgarcabrera replied on 14 Jan 2012
@Nick
After your explanation, the problem is that such caching should be always for the system itself, not for any non-system application... when you've got 4 applications cached, such cache or "inactive" memory is wasted, because in order to open another memory demanding application, such "inactive" memory must be freed, and a worst delay... and it is always better to have unoccupied memory. The memory management is horrible because it didn't happen in Tiger, in fact it should be as in the early days, load application to RAM, finish to use it and unload from RAM or if you've got to do caching, then do profiling on the applications... and by the way, the RAM initially was created to support the registers and to randomly put load and unload code...
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Nick Collingridge replied on 15 Jan 2012
In what way is it better to have that RAM empty or "Free" than to have it occupied by program code or data that might or probably will be re-used? Do you REALLY believe that it would be better for all of that stuff to be paged out than leaving it in RAM?
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Edgarcabrera replied on 15 Jan 2012
well, since what really happens is that the RAM is occupied by other applications and not liberated as intended for other applications, memory management is horrible... and there are long discussions in various forums in that respect, such an issue is becoming mythical... and do you REALLY want to have got such an issue?
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Nick Collingridge replied on 15 Jan 2012
OK, one simple question - what is the performance difference in an application getting RAM from "Free" memory rather than getting it from "Inactive" memory?
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PorkPieHat commented on 02 Nov 2011
Is it really pay-what-you-want-ware if you're broke and therefore want to pay $0.00 for it, but you must pay at least $0.01 and use a credit card or PayPal (which is also by credit card)?
[Version 1.0.3]

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tmtsui replied on 02 Nov 2011
If you are really broke, don't buy anything. Sell your computer, too.
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GeoProf replied on 10 Dec 2011
Actually, this developer's definition of pay-what-you-want-ware is anything OVER $1 USD - he won't accept 99 cents or less using either PayPal or a credit card. Isn't it amazing how easily we'll allow our language to be perverted in the name of capitalism?
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1951fdg (developer) replied on 11 Dec 2011
PayPal charges a fee on the amount donated. Fees vary by country, please insure we receive at least $0,01 USD. If a payment is made from a US PayPal account, the PayPal fees are 3,9% + $0,30 USD. For example, for a donation of $1,00 USD, we receive $0,648 USD from PayPal.
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tmtsui reviewed on 31 Oct 2011
Memory is king. By forcing some apps into 32-bit mode does save me more RAM for running memory-hungry applications.

It's true that one can do the same by opening the info box of any app to find out whether it can be run in 32-bit mode. And then select the box to force the app to run in 32-bit. That's no doubt about it.

But this little app collects all the information and gives you a nice and user-friendly interface.

The new version even remembers which apps have been selected to run in 32-bit mode.

Just for that reason, I am willing to pay for it.

Moreover, I am impressed by the quick response from the developer regarding suggestions and questions.

Edgarcabrera. I did my payment via Paypal. I didn't find any problem with it.
[Version 1.0.3]


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Edgarcabrera reviewed on 31 Oct 2011
It's a very good little application, quite helpful to run those applications everyday use in 32bits mode in Lion, i.e. Safari, Mail, Webprocess, etc. to reduce memory usage. For more demanding applications, 64 bits is good.

But I'd like to recommend to the developer to have another payment gateway apart from Paypal, I've tried to pay for this but I can't via Paypal, perhaps google checkout?...
[Version 1.0.3]

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tmtsui replied on 31 Oct 2011
Hi Edgarcabrera, I overlooked at your comment regarding Paypal. Sorry about that.
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Edgarcabrera replied on 31 Oct 2011
it's alright, no worries
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1951fdg (developer) replied on 01 Nov 2011
Why can't you pay via PayPal?
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Edgarcabrera replied on 01 Nov 2011
I'm using debit card, but it cannot be used it if issued from Mex, only CC but I don't have CC... I've got no issues with google checkout and App Store, but Paypal seems more restrictive...
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1951fdg (developer) replied on 01 Nov 2011
I will sign up for Google Checkout. In the meantime, send an email to the email address displayed on the PayPal page.
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Edgarcabrera replied on 01 Nov 2011
Thank you, I appreciated it... I hope to have more payment options shall help you to get more customers, specially those who cannot pay via Paypal :)
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Stickman67 commented on 26 Oct 2011
I read through much of the feedback on this app with interest, and then did a bit of research. That tended to back up the developer's suggestions that running apps in 64-bit mode did use extra memory.

I then went and changed those of my most frequently used apps to 32-bit mode, just to see what happened.

Memory usage has been lowered significantly. Other than that, not much to report about performance, one way or the other, except …

Photoshop CS5 is much snappier on the startup in 32-bit mode. Why? Who knows? Who cares? It now uses less memory and starts faster.

Downside for this developer is that I did this using Get Info and clicking "Run in 32-bit mode" for those apps that offered the option – took me all of a few minutes – so I'm not going to part with my cash.

That's not to say, however, that others might well find this app beneficial, in terms of time savings, or just because they're not 100% sure of what they're doing otherwise. I'm not saying to buy it or not. What I am saying is that the process it is designed to carry out has been of benefit to me, even if I didn't use this app to carry out that process.

[MacBook Pro 2.53 Intel Core Duo, 4 GB RAM, OS X 10.7.2]
[Version 1.0.3]


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GeoProf commented on 26 Oct 2011
Wow, a new SixtyFour version number and MacUpdate post only 4½ days after the last version's release and just for having been "Tested on Mac OS X 10.6" (and BTW, that 'X' is superfluous)? Since no changes were made since the previous version, that's an ethically extreme justification for a new MU post, and therefore not deserving of the free advertising obtained.
[Version 1.0.3]

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1951fdg (developer) replied on 26 Oct 2011
SixtyFour is constantly being updated. Changes were made to the this version, albeit minor ones. You've got your point.
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Cowicide commented on 25 Oct 2011
What are the disadvantages of using this? Or is this the best way to run all your apps, period? Is there any catch whatsoever?

In other words, if it's better to run apps in 32-bit mode, then why doesn't Apple do this by default?
[Version 1.0.3]

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1951fdg (developer) replied on 26 Oct 2011
On older systems that have little memory available, it is better to run an application in 32-bit mode. If the system recognizes less than 3 GB of memory then force the listed applications to open in 32-bit mode. On 10.5 most applications open in 32-bit mode by default.

SixtyFour will facilitate changing a preference to force an application to open in 32-bit mode.

On newer systems that have plenty memory available, it is better to run an application in 64-bit mode. Applications that are optimized for 64-bit can run faster than their 32-bit counterparts. Applications that open in 64-bit mode can access more memory than their 32-bit counterparts.

SixtyFour will facilitate finding applications that will not open in 64-bit mode.

The best way to run an application depends largely on the memory available to the system, its type and how it is programmed.
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Capobello commented on 20 Oct 2011
Why is this commercial software listed here as "free?"
[Version 1.0.2]

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1951fdg (developer) replied on 20 Oct 2011
SixtyFour is a non-free app, listed as "free" because it is pay-what-you-want-ware and therefore has a flexible price.
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Capobello replied on 20 Oct 2011
Then maybe you should say that on your site, instead of saying it's "commercial."

From the site:

"SixtyFour is a commercial application. Use of SixtyFour beyond the initial trial period requires the purchase of a license.

note: For a limited time only, pay what you want for SixtyFour."
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1951fdg (developer) replied on 20 Oct 2011
SixtyFour is a commercial application!
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Version Downloads:546
Type:Utilities : Optimizers
License:Demo
Date:13 Feb 2012
Platform:PPC / Intel
Price:Free0.00
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SixtyFour is a memory optimizer, created to force 64-bit apps to open in 32-bit mode for G5-based and 64-bit-capable Intel hardware low on memory.

An app opened in 64-bit mode uses significantly more memory than its 32-bit counterpart. On systems that have little memory available, it is better to open a 64-bit app in 32-bit mode. Forcing a 64-bit app to open in 32-bit mode reduces its memory usage significantly and its startup time. Eliminating the memory overhead could potentially lead to an increase in overall system performance.
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