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TenFourFox 10.0.2
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TenFourFox comes in tuned builds for specific processor families:
  • TenFourFox G5
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  • TenFourFox G4 - build 7450
  • TenFourFox G4 - build 7400 (also for 7410)
If you feel unsure what type of processor you have, go to the Apple menu and choose "About this Mac" and check the processor field.

If you are uncertain just what processor type your G4 Mac has, open the Terminal app (in Applications -> Utilities) and type the command machine and press return. You can read more in the Wiki entry; WhichVersion.
What's New
Version 10.0.2:

New features in this version of TenFourFox:

  • Speed improvements to the JavaScript methodjit (issue 118) on all four architectures, with specific code for the G5 processor.
  • Software square root for G3 and G4 processors ( issue 96 ), improving performance with certain math-heavy operations.
Known issues fixed in this version of TenFourFox:
  • This release fixes a high-priority Mozilla security issue (Mozilla bug 727401). This issue affects all previous versions of TenFourFox as well as Firefox 3.6.

Version 10.0.2:

New features in this version of TenFourFox:

  • Speed improvements to the JavaScript methodjit (issue 118) on all four architectures, with specific code for the G5 processor.
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space0matic reviewed on 21 Feb 2012
I just installed TenFourFox for my G5 Mac running OS 10.5.8. It's an G5.1 Intel Core 2 Duo processor with 2.16 GHz processor speed. I have 1 gig of memory (can't expand), but I have been able to run FF and Safari just fine.
My problem is when I try to open TFF, it opens, a window appears, (just as it would in FF) but it crashes almost immediately after launching.
Any ideas on how to stop that?
I've tried quitting all of my apps and other browsers, and it still does this.
Thanks
[Version 10.0.2]

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Mikael B replied on 22 Feb 2012
There is no such thing as "G5 Intel" processor. To run TenFourFox you have to have a G3, a G4 or G5 processor and at least 512 mb.

You can easily see this in the apple menu -> "About this computer". If it doesn't say "PowerPC" you don't have one and TenFourFox is built ONLY for these as you can see in the info above.

Unless you do have a PowerPC machine, I suggest you ask macupdate to delete your rating. Why did you start with a rating before you knew why it crashed? Didn't you see the troubleshooting alternative?
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Mikael B commented on 18 Feb 2012
TenFourFox 10.02 security update is out: http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/
[Version 10.0.1]

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Mikael B replied on 18 Feb 2012
I went straight to 10.02 after version 9, but I must say version 10 seems quite a bit more snappy on the sites I frequent.
Dual 2.0 G5, 8gb ram.
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space0matic replied on 21 Feb 2012
Mike, I can't get TFF to run, it crashes about a minute after it fully launches, so I don't have the opportunity to get that security update. Do you have any idea what I might be doing wrong?
See above spaceomatic.
Thanks!
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Macfool commented on 11 Feb 2012
TenFourFoxG5 v.1.0.0.1 seems to run without a hitch on a dual G5 2Ghz. 4 GB of RAM.

Javascript performance is more spirited than FF 3.6.26 or the 3.6.27ENG.

FF 3.6 series will not be updated after .27 as it stands now. (Conjecture?)
[Version 10.0.1]

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Bousozoku replied on 18 Feb 2012
It's been years since Leopard or Tiger were current operating systems. Mozilla chose to service the latest two releases, as has Apple. It's a realistic decision.

Thanks for the people behind TenFourFox for providing a compatible browser that works well. I downloaded it yesterday to a 1.33 GHz PowerBook G4.
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Aargl commented on 31 Jan 2012
I'm still wondering why MacUpdate prohibits suggesting Tenfourfox as a "similar software" on most of the pages dedicated to the other browsers: I've repeatedly tried and have only succeeded for 2 small ones...
I first thought it was because they were distinguishing Intel ones from PPC ones, but it's the same on Camino's page.
There is probably a good explanation I haven't considered, but it looks pretty weird, as if TFF wasn't worth mentionning...
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ENIGMACODE reviewed on 14 Jan 2012
Hi Gang

Adobe Flash Players Not Working Properly:

I'm sure this topic has been covered before. I have 3 G5's #2 Dual Core 2.0's and #1 older SP 1.8. The Dual Core machines have two Browsers installed; TenFourFox ver 4, Safari 4.1.3 with Flash Player ver 10.0 r45. Most Videos play just fine including UTube.

However my older 1.8 SP machine, (with browsers Safari 4.1.3, and TenFourFox ver 9), trying various versions of Flash DO NOT function properly. Each time I've used the Adobe uninstaller, then tried several archived players, including the latest. NONE will yield the same satisfactory results as with the Dual Core machines.

Wonder if this situation could be related to the older 1.8 SP? Or whether the tpye of Video Card has anything to do with it?

Thanx
Mike
Trailer;
http://vimeo.com/7340608
[Version 9.0]

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Aargl replied on 24 Jan 2012
As I could read everywhere, Flash itself seems to be the culprit, sucking the brains out of our beloved machines, and there is no way to get it working perfectly.
If your quest is about Flash not working at all in TFF, see the here above troubleshooting tab, and then the trick given by venerable Mikael B on 28 Sep 2011 to enable it. :-)
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Mikael B commented on 07 Jan 2012
I found some great tips from chtrusch for you with slower PowerPc machines:

"browser.fullscreen.animateUp = 0 (prevents the stupid and sometimes very slow animation when switching to full screen)

[alternatively: browser.fullscreen.autohide=false (leaves the navigation bar visible always)]

browser.preferences.animateFadeIn = false (re-sizing is ok, but fade-in of content is non-standard on OS X anyway)

browser.tabs.animate = false (no more "Assertion Failed. Giving up waiting for the tab closing animation to finish")

browser.panorama.animate_zoom = false (instant switch from tab groups to normal window)
"
http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2011/12/awoafy-are-we-old-and-fast-yet-or.html#comment-form
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Mikael B replied on 07 Jan 2012
As always, to get to these settings go to the location field and write "about:config" and press return.
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Mikael B commented on 07 Jan 2012
There is now a Firefox 9.01. It seems there will be no 9.01 release, but a 10 release. There is a 9.01pre available http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/downloads/list, however.
[Version 9.0]


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Aargl commented on 15 Dec 2011
I'd be curious to know why it's so hard to localize TFF. I tried to copy the fr.lproj folder in the package from the official Firefox, but it doesn't work (while doing so in Camino to the Camino optimized built works... :-(
Anyway, I'm still a happy TFF user and even more happy at each release!
(providing you use the various tricks to bring back Flash and the like ;-)
[Version 8.0]


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friautz reviewed on 16 Nov 2011
Nice but a browser that can't play videos is useless for me. I'll stick with the G4 optimized version of Camino and OmniWeb.
[Version 8.0]

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friautz replied on 20 Nov 2011
Ok, with that trick (thank you Mikael) I can use plug ins now. But Camino still runs faster and better than TFF on my emac. TFF seems to be a bit buggy and heavy, it happened already 2 time that I couldn't quit it. It also takes quite long until it opens. However, all in all it's not bad and I hope the developers continue their work. But it can't replace Camino as my favorite Mac Browser.
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Jerry Krinock replied on 08 Dec 2011
As far as it "happened already 2 time that I couldn't quit it", don't blame this on TenFourFox, because that happens fairly often to me with Firefox 8.0 running on an Intel Mac.
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Aargl replied on 15 Dec 2011
Hi Friautz!
I'm still using Camino myself, but some sites are simply not loading correctly in it, and most of the time TFF does the job!(actually better and faster than any other browser: try a real test on a heavy page that is not in the cache yet; I still love Camino, but except for the launching time of the app itself and the laborious display of the menus in TFF, there's no comparison)
Firefox has always been slow on launching, so TFF is not to blame — actually it really got faster in recent releases.
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friautz replied on 18 Dec 2011
For now I'm still happy with Camino. I'm used to it as my main browser for daily surfing and I see no reason to change it. However, when Camino really should die one day, TFF will be the best replacement.
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pixturesk reviewed on 10 Nov 2011
Please forgive me, I wrote before seeing the "about:config" fix for re-enabling the TFF version 8 plugin functionality, works perfectly. Now when I click on Tools/Extensions, all the extensions + plugins are there. I will still keep both versions 5 + 8, until I fully check out this fix, then uninstall version 5. Thanks for this great fix.
[Version 8.0]


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Strob had trouble on 04 Oct 2011
Unhappy to report that this is the slowest experience on a browser that I ever had. I am using a iMac G4/800mhz/1GRam/7450. Switching tabs takes 3-10 seconds and everything is painfully slow. Not possible to use this everyday. Any pointers to speed this thing up?

One other thing: typing a z in the address field clears everything in it.
[Version 7.0]

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Mikael B replied on 23 Oct 2011
Use version 6. It only needs 256MB. version 7 needs 512MB and you have very little RAM. 2GB have been a minimum standard for a few years now.
Unfortunately it seems 1GB is the maximum for your machine and that means you'll have to use software with small memory requirements for the best experience.
Even with the older version you'll need to quit at least some other running applications that use up your valuable resources.
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Mikael B replied on 23 Oct 2011
BTW, what OS version are you running on?
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Strob replied on 23 Oct 2011
I am using Tiger OS X 10.4.11. TenFourFox v.6.0.1 has the same problem - way too slow for practical use. I can see the cpu jump to the 50-80% range as soon as I click on a link and stay there for at least 5 seconds. Plenty of ram space for it too so I don't think my 1gb limit is the problem.
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Mikael B replied on 23 Oct 2011
Well, considering I have run TenFourFox 4.03 on a Powerbook G4 with 1GB RAM running Tiger with acceptable performance, this is somewhat unexpected results. My comparison was with Safari — 4 I think — on the same machine and I found TFF way faster, especially with several tabs. What is your comparison?

Could you try 4.03 as well and tell us if that was faster?

And this problem "z is clearing the address field" could you please clarify how? You mean if you type "http://thezoo.com" the address field is cleared?

BTW, second hand OS X 10.5 is available for a fair price and I've found it faster and better even on a Powerbook G4 4oo mhz with 1qb of RAM.
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Mikael B replied on 24 Oct 2011
You know what? Suddenly I get spinning beach balls for several seconds all over the place and slow page loads, also when I close many tabs.
This happened after I downloaded a large number of bookmarks from my Xmarks backup. I also added a few add-ons so I'll inactivate them.

I don't think it's a memory problem as I have 4GB free, but the CPU usage is suspiciously high when i get the beach balls.

I'm going to try and change version too to see if the problem disappear.

I searched for known FF7 bugs involving bookmarks and CPU usage but found nothing conclusive.
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Strob replied on 24 Oct 2011
Tried version 4 but not happy with that either. Using Camino which is faster and more stable.

Regarding the "z" problem, a little more testing has shown that typing a letter/symbol that is not in the autocomplete suggestions the URL field clears and erases what has already been typed. Very frustrating.

I have tried Leopard on this iMac but found it more sluggish than Tiger, particularly with any animation (hey it's only 32MB vram). Besides Leopard doesn't run Classic and you can't change its theme.
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Mikael B replied on 25 Oct 2011
Update: I turned off all addons and TFF is snappy again. I'm turning them on one by one and hoping it's not Firebug or Web Developer.
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Strob replied on 03 Nov 2011
You're correct, it does get faster after disabling most add-ons. However, the big bug still remains - I can't type anything into the location field before in erases. I tried disabling the history and bookmark suggestions in the preferences but then I can't type one letter without it being immediately erased.
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Aargl replied on 03 Nov 2011
Hi!
I suggest you try it from a fresh new user account (or from a new Firefox profile if you know how to do that).
For what you wrote about Leopard, I agree: on my iMac G5, it brought cosmetic changes, for the most, finder and mail are worse than in Tiger, I stick with it now that I spent so much time to upgrade, but except for Quicklook, it wasn't really worth the pain... (and I still have a Tiger partition to run some specific app!)
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Mikael B replied on 04 Nov 2011
Strob, this is not normal TFF behavior. You should try in another account or firefox profile. Something is qrong in your setup.

I reenabled the Firebug 1.8.3 addon and I can happily report it doesn't make TFF slower except for when debugging javascripts. The Web Developer active at the same time did slow down my G5 considerably, so I'm dropping that. Firebug is much more useful anyway.

I also added the Gridfox plugin. Great stuff! I will reenable all my web development addons one at a time and see which ones affect the situation.
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Mikael B replied on 04 Nov 2011
Aargl, I don't understand your preference for Tiger. Most of my software wouldn't run on Tiger and Leopard is nearing its life completion for the development I do. So I had no real choice in abandoning Tiger. Generally I found Leopard made my machines significantly more snappy, also 400Mhz Titaniums with only 1GB of RAM.
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Aargl replied on 04 Nov 2011
"Preference" is not the right word: Leopard gives an overall impression of fluidity, but I miss the Finder search in Tiger and there are bugs in Leopard's mail that were not in Tiger (I've been told they're still in Snow Leopard!).
Some things are better, some things are worse, some apps have not been updated for Leopard (or I don't want to pay for an update! ;-), it probably depends on what you do with your machine.
I was saying that in my case it wasn't worth the pain. And even more because I'm stuck to Tiger because of my version of Digidesign Pro Tools and some plugins that are not recognized in Leopard.
I have a friend who has Tiger on an iMac Intel and at first I wanted to install her a Snow Leopard, but, considering the pros and cons — and she being happy like that — I've just made the available updates and basta.
I have recently tried Leopard on a G4, but I'm still skeptical... The least I can say is that the improvement was far more important from Panzer to Tiger.
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Mikael B replied on 04 Nov 2011
I use Mail 3.6 daily and haven't encountered any bugs there so I'm not sure what you mean.

I recognize your Plugin pain. Perhaps you can go the usual route and keep your PPC machine on Tiger and get a new Intel with Snow Leopard or Lion for the future. I don't see myself losing my G5 as it's the only machine that will run old looping app Infinity well. But that is a classic app so I must boot up in Tiger in orer to use it.
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Aargl replied on 04 Nov 2011
About mail, it's mainly the inhability to maintain window size and position if it's closed with window at full size (a well-known bug, if you look at the forums) and the inevitable creation of Todos in imap boxes.
About the system, I had some process going crazy and paralyzing the iMac (PubSubAgent, spindump, dashboard.advisory...).
On a practical way, I have a 2 screen config for watching TV on main screen while having other activities on the second screen: Leopard not always deals better than Tiger on heavy load.
(I think we'd better stop this digression for not "poluting" ;-)
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Strob replied on 04 Nov 2011
Created new profile and the location field is working properly now. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Mikael B had trouble on 28 Sep 2011
To reenable plugins in TenFourFox 7.0 go to the address field and type about:config. Press return and click on the "I'll be careful, I promise" button.
In the filter input type "tenfourfox".
You now see TenFourFox related preferences and can set new values by Double clicking each preference. To reenable set "tenfourfox.plugins.enabled" to true and "tenfourfox.layout.hideplugins" to false. If you want the java plugin activated set "tenfourfox.layout.hide_java_plugin" to false. Close the window or go to a web site to verify.

Verified with Flash 10.1. I assume it will work with most other plugins as well.
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Aargl replied on 30 Sep 2011
Thank you for this great tip! :-)
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Mikael B replied on 03 Oct 2011
Aargl, You're welcome of course.
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montyson had trouble on 26 Sep 2011
I'm on a G5 PPC running 10.4.11 and my newly loaded 6.0.1 displays most body copy as numbers in boxes. Heads and subheads are mostly OK. Coding is set at UFT 8 and sites are allowed to select their own fonts is on.
Any ideas.
THX
[Version 6.0.1]

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Mikael B replied on 28 Sep 2011
Have you tried deleting the preference file and/or with a new firefox profile?
You could also try the now available TenFourFox 7.0.
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Mikael B had trouble on 18 Sep 2011
Anyone else seeing odd layout at facebook? My left navigation area have been slided horizontally all the way from its earlier left position to now residing well below, but on the right side of the search box. It's in TFF 4, 5 and 6.
[Version 6.0.1]

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Mikael B replied on 28 Sep 2011
This problem seems to be no more in TenFourFox 7.0 at least. I assume it's changes at Facebook that fixed it though.
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Aargl had trouble on 28 Jul 2011
There's also a bug about windows default places (probably only if you have a second screen attached, like me):
Windows always appear on the second monitor, no matter what I do.
I've tried disabling all add-ons, but no way: even disabling that monitor, it takes a while to default ok to my main monitor (after a number of Quit/Restart...), but when I reactivate the second monitor, it soon returns to his former bad habits! :-(
[Version 5.0]

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Aargl replied on 27 Aug 2011
The Dev says it's probably a Firefox issue.
I've checked TFF4 and it has quite the same behaviour.
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Aargl had trouble on 26 Jun 2011
Having problems with Youtube's html5 (actually worse than Camino!) while Safari reads them ok.
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Aargl replied on 28 Jul 2011
To be more precise: it stutters constantly.

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  • TenFourFox G3
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If you feel unsure what type of processor you have, go to the Apple menu and choose "About this Mac" and check the processor field.

If you are uncertain just what processor type your G4 Mac has, open the Terminal app (in Applications -> Utilities) and type the command machine and press return. You can read more in the Wiki entry; WhichVersion.

TenFourFox is a fast, efficient web browser based on Firefox 7, but compatible with OS X 10.4 and 10.5 and the PowerPC.

TenFourFox does support most add-ons

The add-ons it does not support are those that contain native Intel code, or, on Tiger Macs, add-ons that contain native code that requires Leopard. You can continue to use add-ons compatible with the same version of Firefox in TenFourFox in most cases. TenFourFox no longer supports plugins or Flash

Plugins on PowerPC are of special concern because Mozilla is making updates to their plugin architecture which may require the plugins themselves to be updated, and there are certain difficult-to-correct bugs with them already on Tiger. Most importantly, Adobe Flash for PowerPC is no longer maintained and has known security risks that can crash or leak data, and QuickTime for Leopard will lose its own support with the release of OS X Lion. In addition, Flash 10.1 is rapidly becoming unsupported by many applications.

As of the previous TenFourFox 6.0, for these and other reasons plugin support ships disabled. Sites will now act as if no plugins were installed at all. For details and an in-depth explanation of this policy and other workarounds, see Why aren't plugins supported in TenFourFox?)

For Internet video, we strongly recommend the use of Perian and any of the available video download add-ons for Firefox.

For YouTube, we recommend MacTubes. If you have a high end G4 or G5, you can also use WebM for selected videos by visiting http://www.youtube.com/html5 and enabling HTML5 video. This will set a temporary cookie enabling browser-based video without Flash.

If you have more questions you can read Frequently asked questions about TenFourFox
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