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Adobe Lightroom
Adobe Lightroom 4.0 Beta [800002]
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(2) 2.5

Import, select, develop and showcase large volumes of digital images.   Updater ($299)
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Adobe Lightroom software helps you bring out the best in your photographs, whether you're perfecting one image, searching for ten, processing hundreds, or organizing thousands.

Create incredible images that move your audience. Experiment fearlessly with state-of-the-art nondestructive editing tools. Easily manage all your images. And showcase your work in elegant print layouts, slide shows, and web galleries, as well as on popular photo-sharing sites. All from within one fast, intuitive application.
What's New
Version 4.0 Beta [800002]:

Beta 1.

  • Highlight and shadow recovery brings out all the detail that your camera captures in dark shadows and bright highlights.
  • Photo book creation with easy-to-use elegant templates.
  • Location-based organization lets you find and group images by location, assign locations to images, and display data from GPS-enabled cameras.
  • White balance brush to refine and adjust white balance in specific areas of your images.
  • Additional local editing controls let you adjust noise reduction and remove moiré in targeted areas of your images.
  • Extended video support for organizing, viewing, and making adjustments and edits to video clips.
  • Easy video publishing lets you edit and share video clips on Facebook and Flickr®.
  • Soft proofing to preview how an image will look when printed with color-managed printers.
  • Email directly from Lightroom using the email account of your choice.
Version 4.0 Beta [800002]:

Beta 1.

  • Highlight and shadow recovery brings out all the detail that your camera captures in dark shadows and bright highlights.
  • Photo book creation with easy-to-use elegant templates.
  • Location-based organization lets you find and group images by location, assign locations to images, and display data from GPS-enabled cameras.
  • White balance brush to refine and more...
Requirements
Intel, Mac OS X 10.6.8 or later







  • Apple Aperture
    +29
    Updater $199
    Post-production photography ...

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    Demo $140
    RAW workflow software.

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    Demo $99.99
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Adobe Lightroom User Discussion (Write a Review)
ver. 4.x:
(2)
Your rating: Now say why...
Overall:
(42)

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+4
Kihoalu commented on 16 Jan 2012
This is not a review:
I'd like to test drive Lightroom.

And I'd like serious comparisons between it & its competition.
[Version 4.0 Beta [800002]]


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+1

osxer reviewed on 15 Jan 2012
LR 3 was fantastic. With LR4 the auto settings make the program useless (Darks are too dark And Lights are too bright!) I don't understand why the highlight recovery button is not existing anymore....
[Version 4.0 Beta [800002]]


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-4

+21
Myschizobuddy commented on 10 Jan 2012
doesn't look like a mac app at all.
[Version 4.0 Beta [800002]]

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+131
Jazzica replied on 11 Jan 2012
Adobe. In my experience when an app is updated, it's NEVER free.
I have 3,6. How much will v4 cost me when "perfected"? Anyone know?
Thanks you.
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-5

-35

Id_Ego_SuperEgo reviewed on 05 Nov 2011
On top of my earlier complaints, I must stress that the exported jpegs retain little (if any at all) of the original metadata. For instance, both the Finder and EXIF viewers, such as Exif Everywhere, will show the export date as the file creation date. In other words, an image shot in, say, December 2007, and exported in November of 2011 will show November 2011 under EXIF data, not 2007. Likewise, much else of metadata is lost on export. I'm sure, grannies and grandpas don't care - and will be quite pleased with Lightroom (although, I suspect, for them iPhoto will pose a sufficient challenge to use, let alone a so-called "Pro" RAW editor/database app).

Again, everything I noted in my earlier review is as relevant now as it were in the time of my original review. Lightroom hasn't moved a millimetre further - if anything, it has deteriorated even more.
[Version 3.5]

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+3

+221
Bigboysdad replied on 06 Nov 2011
Id_Ego-SuperEgo' s previous review was on 23 March 2011 on this thread (see blow) - it's probably worth giving that a read as this review clearly relates to that, together with the replies to that post.
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+5

+89
Pl_svn replied on 13 Dec 2011
... I'm not going to search your older post but this "jpg do not retain metadata" is either a) untrue or b) you really screwed-up your LR export settings

all my exported jpgs, even those on Flickr, have as much metadata I want meaning from nothing at all to all camera's original + all those I manually add in LR + all the "edits" I made

despite being an Adobe product :-p LR is the professional tool that Apple, before giving-up with v3 and making it an iPhoto+, has sadly failed to become
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+1

+89
Pl_svn replied on 13 Dec 2011
I was, obviously, meaning Apple Aperture, not just Apple ;-)
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+2

+51
Neutralzone replied on 13 Dec 2011
Since we're revisiting the earlier review, it's worth reiterating one or my responses: If you're losing that much metadata, you probably have the "Minimize embedded metadata" option on.

There are too many pros using this software for you to throw it into "Grandma and Grandpa" territory.
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Id_Ego_SuperEgo replied on 16 Dec 2011
I'll reiterate: both Finder, Exif Everywhere (I presume, any Exif reader?) fail to recognise the original RAW capture date of a JPG export (yes, all precautions were taken and "Minimise embedded Metadata" was unchecked).

Another issue (or the next in line of missing properties): a comparison (C) between two images in Develop mode (so as to manually match a certain parameters - in the instance in question it is a RAW to be matched to a TIFF. In other words, adjustments can't be synced from one to the other). This isn't the case in the Library Mode. Why on Earth?

No proper, extensive geotagging implementation.
Can anyone explain how exactly version 3.6 differs from verison 2.0 - and whether the modicum of features added was worth the upgrade? I don't think so.

That said, I allow that its UI is very clean. With such rather limited a feature set, why wouldn't it be?
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+89
Pl_svn replied on 16 Dec 2011
... not sure about what you mean by "comparing as to match" a raw to a tiff: how can you match pears to apples? :-/

in develop mode, instead, just do "Settings/Copy Settings" from image A and "Settings/Paste Settings" to image B
but if you apply to a TIFF the settings you used in a Raw (or vice-versa)... ==:-/

re *your* metadata issue... I suggest you open a thread in LR's Users Forum: I'm sure, there, you'll be pointed in the right direction. It's quite difficult help you, here, without *seeing* what's going on ;-)
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Id_Ego_SuperEgo replied on 16 Dec 2011
@Pl_svn: Exactly: since these aren't both RAW files (or even TIFF, JPG, PSD), syncing the adjustments obviously won't work. The problem is, I can't approximate the .CR2 to the .TIFF manually in the Develop module without going navigating between the two images back and forth and adjusting the .CR2 appropriately. What I'd do instead (there's comes my complaint) is manually tweak the .CR2 to visually match the TIFF in Compare view under the Develop module. Comparing these two images in the Library module works, but in the Library module one obviuosly can't extensively adjust the image. In the Develop module, however, the Compare command (with two different images selected) will compare the the before & after snapshot of a single image. In other words, I choose an image, Command-click another, invoke "Compare" [C] - but end up comparing the Before-After states of óne of the images. That - while I have 2 images selected to compare these to one another! Changing hundred times from Develop to Library and vice versa (or performing nursery-level edits in the Library module, i.e., clicking and re-clicking exposure or contast arrows until you are - very unlikely - satisfied with the result) isn't exactly an example of a fluent workflow.
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+89
Pl_svn replied on 16 Dec 2011
ok, got it =:-/

I'm not aware of any app that lets you *develop* two images side by side

you know why? no *photographer* on this earth works that way 'cause no photographer will ever need to "copy" to one of his raws the "effects" he has seen on some jpg/tiff/younameit seen or grabbed from the net :-/

maybe one of the apps your grannies are using... ;-p
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+89
Pl_svn replied on 16 Dec 2011
... oh... wait: you never tried using the "arrow keys" while in develop mode, right? :-p
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Id_Ego_SuperEgo replied on 01 Jan 2012
"'cause no photographer will ever need to "copy" to one of his raws the "effects" he has seen on some jpg/tiff/younameit seen or grabbed from the net :-/" - this sentence makes no sense: as things stand now, I wouldn't reckon to apply a day's worth of work in photoshop on a reference PSD/TIFF to a RAW in LightRoom. I assume, you still don't quite get me - or for convenience's sake you pretend not to. I just want to see these two images (yes, in different formats, yes, one retouched extensively) next to one another in the Develop module to visually compare one to the other, while applying general colour/ White Balance, HSL, exposure, localised adjustments, graduated filters, etc. - before proceeding to converting the RAW to PSD/TIFF to edit in PS.

"…he has seen on some jpg/tiff /younameit seen or grabbed from the net." - where on earth did you fantasise that! Have you read a reference in my comments to "some jpg/tiff /younameit seen or grabbed from the net."

As for the arrow keys, just as well I could resort to switching from Finder's Quick Look (which, by the way, renders colour quite differently than Lightroom) - and LightRoom - why, equally as "streamlined" a workflow…
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+326
Harristype replied on 10 Jan 2012
This is in reply to PI_svn statement "despite being an Adobe product :-p LR is the professional tool that Apple, before giving-up with v3 and making it an iPhoto+, has sadly failed to become". Are you really serious? Just because Aperture 3 has a different (far less depressing) interface? I have been on both Aperture and Lightroom since they started, and to this day, one is NO better than the other. It just depends on what you need as a photographer. And by "professional tool", do you mean that nasty bug in Lightroom that wiped out an entire library of photos?
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+3

+3

Lesta reviewed on 03 Oct 2011
Fantastic App.
[Version 3.5]


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-9

Radus reviewed on 30 Sep 2011
it is great to see Lightroom is going to become better and better
compared to Aperture - Lightroom playes in another league:
- lens correction
- noise reduction
- graduated neutral density filter
- better user interface
…
[Version 3.5]

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+326
Harristype replied on 13 Dec 2011
Sorry, but Lightroom has become the bloated mess that Adobe has done to most of their programs. I own both Lightroom and Aperture and have been a professional photographer since 1979. To make a statement like "Lightroom plays in another league" shows ignorance. If those 4 items (2 are true, 1 is wrong, and 1 is your opinion) that you listed put Lightroom in another league, then your bar is very low. Aperture has great noise reduction, and it's chromatic aberration tool is worth the cost of the app alone. Lightroom is also $220 more expensive than Aperture, and I think Lightroom's interface stinks (my opinion). And I will never trust Lightroom again after it wiped out an entire photo library with a well-documented bug in version 2. Yes, this is version 3, but the trust is completely gone.
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+4

+143

Cgc reviewed on 29 Sep 2011
Until Lightroom's price drops to under $100 I don't see how anyone can justify it over Aperture...unless you run a business with PCs and Macs all running LR.
[Version 3.5]

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+2

+51
Neutralzone replied on 29 Sep 2011
Doesn't explain why Lightroom sells more copies than Aperture even counting only Mac users. It's telling that Apple had to slash their price and Lightroom never felt the need to match Apple's move. Kind of like Apple maintaining premium pricing vs the Windows world of cutthroat pricing, knowing that Macs will sell anyway.

It all depends what you need. If you want the noise reduction quality and lens correction that Lightroom has, by the time you add those plug-ins to Aperture, you've almost paid for Lightroom anyway.

Also, thanks to Final Cut Pro X, some Mac users just don't trust Apple anymore for pro products.
http://www.pixiq.com/article/aperture-or-lightroom

Are you really saying the equivalent of "Unless a Mac laptop drops to $600 I don't see how anyone would justify it over a PC." Note: I am 100% Mac loyal, no PCs in my house.
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+93
Pik80 replied on 10 Jan 2012
I can justify the price of Lightroom because it integrates well with Photoshop.
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+202
B. Jefferson Le Blanc commented on 23 Aug 2011
It's too soon to give a real review, but I must say that the bugs that bothered me in Lightroom 3.4 have been fixed in this RC. In preliminary testing it seems solid and responsive. The installer will not replace your existing copy of Lightroom so you should feel free to try it out. And, if you are already using a version of Lightroom 3, this one will not affect your catalog, so that you can still use your older copy if you wish. This is on the Mac platform; I can't speak for the Windows version.
[Version 3.5rc1]


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-7
Rekramer commented on 06 Aug 2011
This in not PPC compatible!
[Version 3.4.1]

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+63
MacUpdate---Ryan replied on 06 Aug 2011
Thanks for pointing that out, I've updated our listing to reflect that.
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+1

+202
B. Jefferson Le Blanc commented on 25 May 2011
They've left some of the bugs they created unresolved, despite the twice repeated, exceedingly vague claim to have resolved just such problems. As one who has participated extensively on the Adobe forums discussing these bugs, I'm sorely disappointed. In my mind the Lightroom team's credibility is growing very thin indeed. They appear to be spending their time working on new features at the expense of solving existing problems. The evidence accumulated over the last few updates suggests their priorities need some serious readjustment.
[Version 3.4.1]

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+14
Umijin replied on 23 Aug 2011
Hmmm... I don't find any major bugs, and the 1 or 2 minor bugs I've experienced are really very minor if anything. I used this app every day for 1-3 hours. And I'd say they've avoided the feature bloat so evident in Aperture.
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B. Jefferson Le Blanc replied on 23 Aug 2011
@ Umijin: As I said, I've been actively participating on the Adobe Lightroom forums so I know I'm not alone in the problems I've experienced. If you don't believe me, take a look at the forums for yourself: http://forums.adobe.com/community/lightroom?view=discussions&start=0. There are numerous issues reported by users and acknowledged by Adobe. Whether a bug is minor or not rather depends on how if affects your workflow. Just because they don't bother you much doesn't mean others don't find them more serious.
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+104
Rubaiyat had trouble on 28 Apr 2011
The Adobe Lightroom v3.4 link is broken on the Adobe Update site end (not here).
[Version 3.4]


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Skallagrimson had trouble on 17 Mar 2008
Adobe Lightroom 1.4 pulled, users asked to downgrade

Adobe has pulled the recently released Lightroom 1.4 update from its Web site and is asking users to downgrade to version 1.3.1 of the photography workflow tool.

Company officials say the decision to pull the update was based on the following bugs:

EXIF Time Stamp Error There is an error in the EXIF time stamp update technology that causes Lightroom to believe that the files are out of sync with the correct time stamp as displayed in Lightroom. Any ensuing metadata update will attempt to incorrectly modify the EXIF time stamp in the original raw file itself. This is the only metadata field that Lightroom will write to an original proprietary raw file. This error will not impact the integrity of your image data. The Camera Raw plug-in also will incorrectly change the EXIF time stamp in files converted by the plug-in. The information written to the XMP sidecar files or XMP metadata in the converted files will remain correct.
Olympus Conversion Error There is an error in converting Olympus JPEG files to other formats in Lightroom 1.4 and the Camera Raw 4.4 plug-in.
In order to downgrade, delete the Lightroom application in the Application's folder and then delete the /Library/Receipts/Adobe Photoshop Lightroom.pkg file. Reinstall Lightroom 1.3.1.

http://www.macfixit.com/
[Version 1.4]

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Ric Vieira replied on 04 Jun 2008
Lightroom 1.4 is STILL active on Adobe's website and I never heard about "pulling" it out the site !?

RV


LaurenceGWB rated on 07 Feb 2012

[Version 4.0 Beta [800002]]




MeerAdTwins rated on 09 Jan 2012

[Version 3.6]




Michel Marimon rated on 16 Dec 2011

[Version 3.6]



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Achim2 rated on 14 Dec 2011

[Version 3.6]



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Bigboysdad rated on 06 Nov 2011

[Version 3.5]



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Monkeyjunkey rated on 30 Sep 2011

[Version 3.5]




Dickerson rated on 24 Aug 2011

[Version 3.5rc1]



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Mx rated on 19 Jul 2011

[Version 3.4.1]




Dlackovic rated on 23 Jun 2011

[Version 3.4.1]




IDDem0n rated on 28 Apr 2011

[Version 3.4]


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