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Clawson commented on 20 Aug 2003
Heh heh heh. Interesting.

Opera still hasn't given up on the claim of fastest browser. Fortunately, there's a nice little stopwatch built into the browser's lower toolbar to gauge this claim. So let's try the MacUpdate OS X index page...27 sec on dialup. Camino does the same in 20, and displays page content at about 15 sec, whereas Opera displayed NOTHING except the sign-up text and banner ad for the first 25 seconds.

Advantage: Camino.

Standards-compliant, you say? Let's check that out by opening a new tab.

A new what? Where the HELL is the "new tab" command? Every browser with tab support puts an obvious "open new tab" command somewhere in the menus.

Not Opera.

OK, fine, a new window then. Hey, look, I can't find the command for changing the displayed font size on the page, either.

Oops.

Now, for HTML standards compliance testing...really, I promise.

Form access keys are still broken.
Entity support is better but still not as good as it is in Mozilla. Fixed-width spaces are a particular problem.

Soft hypens are still broken.

Client-side imagemaps are still horribly broken, as are many other aspects of OBJECT tag support. I have a sneaking feeling at least part of this is a problem with plug-in support, which is absolutely inexcusable - OS X has a STANDARD PLUGINS DIRECTORY, for crying out loud! It can't be difficult to point to it within the app...

Citations are still broken.

JavaScript support is still spotty at best, and "fakescripts" are still run without any compunction at all.

Table rules are still basically broken, and decimal aligns are still broken.

Bi-directional text is VERY amusingly broken.

Now, all of you who keep singing Opera's praises, I ask you:

What does Opera offer that Safari and Camino do not?

I would submit that the correct answer to that (semi-rhetorical) question is "nothing, espeically since every copy of Opera wants me to put $40 in the pocket of a hypocrite like Jon von Tetzchner."

I'll be sticking with Camino, thanks.

(Hey, two positives, though: Opera finally wised up and dispensed with their silly Installer app, and the browser didn't crash once in the testing, which is more than I could say for any previous versions...)
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Clawson commented on 16 Jul 2003
FYI: most challenge-response systems are prohibited on mailing lists, and many people filter out challenges themselves as junk mail.

Sorry, but this is NOT the way to fix the spam problem. Seek other solutions. Nothing against the program or its author - just the wrong way to solve the problem.
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