eLister for Mac2.3.1

I must respond to people slamming elister by Black magik. I have been using the program for many years. The only times it let me down were when I zoned out and did something wrong. If you can't get this program to work for you I believe that it is your own fault. With the right items on ebay you can pay for elister with one auction...outwest

I've used this program since its earlier version, Prelister, and I absolutely love it! It improves with each new version and is a pleasure to use! Email support can't be beat with very timely responses to every question I've sent the developer! I've had many compliments on my listings and feel the program is worth every cent! The ability to incorporate muliple images into a listing at no extra charge is fabulous! Keep up the good work, Black Magik and I look forward to your next version! Check out Auction Monitor as well, another great Black Magik auction tool!

First of all, I'd like to apologize to the developer for my comments -- it turns out that the problem was due to a mail error on my end, hence he could not contact me. I've signed up for eLister for another 6 months and continue to use to post items on eBay profitably. One thing people are not understanding at all, when they trash this program and recommend Auction Lister Creator is that the two programs are TOTALLY DIFFERENT. ALC is a very simple program that will allow you to make fancy HTML for pasting into your browser window when listing an item - nothing more. eLister is an actual tool that connects to eBay's site and lists the auction for you. Why is it useful? The short answer is that it saves me a massive amount of time, and enables me to maintain about 100-150 auctions on eBay at any given time, something that would be impossible to do otherwise. eBay occasionally has "free listing days" and this program allows me to post 400 products easily -- doing it through eBay's web interface would be completely impossible. So while the program isn't perfect (shift tab and command A don't work in fields), the developer is a hardworking and honest person who deserves and has my support. If you are only listing 10 items a month, the program (and its cost) are not for you. If you have a business and want to do serious sales with eBay's system, the $40 every six months will be nothing to you, and these people are the target audience of eLister.

First of all, I LOVE this software have have used it profitably for over a year. The reason you have to pay $39 every six months is, eBay requires that the developer pay ongoing fees to keep the right to make software, therefore all sellers of eBay software must pass this system onto buyers. I am sad to say that, even though I love the program, the developer has not sent me the 6 month code that I paid for a month ago, nor answered any of my emails. This is not acceptible as I'm currently unable to post auctions -- which means I'm losing money, a lot more than $39. The developer seems to have gone on a walkabout, which is good if he comes back, but if he doesn't come back I'll be forced to get a chargeback through Kagi.

costs $39 every 6 months to keep it active, not $39 once, and not very easy to use anyway. I'll keep searching for something closer to Ebay's TurboLister and suggest everyone send an Email to Ebay asking for them to come out with a Mac version of Turbolister. Beware, THIS is the software that Ebay recommends for Mac users!!

Expected to receive a boxed copy of the software but now I'm told that I need to spend $10 more for a CD and a printed manual is not even available. What a joke!

Was forced to upgrade to 2.5 with 2 months left on my 6 month license. Now it doesn't work. It will not submit auctions. Have emailed three times and received one curt reply blaming the trouble on eBay's servers. Nope. Have tried now for two days with no luck. Avoid this product and this company. I wish I'd read the reviews here before I spent $39 for less than 4 mo's of use. I'll post again here if a miracle happens but I'm searching for other solutions. Sigh.

This program doesn't do anything the eBay site can't do so 5 dollars a month to use it is a joke. If it was 1 dollar a month that wouldn't be to bad but it should really be free to use.

Don't waste your time. No sensible person would even do business with these people.

The worst customer service in the world. This guy should be banned from doing business on the Internet.

So, you, CA, are marketing your "wolf" to all the "little red ridinghoods" ? Very baaaaad writing. And I suspect plagerism in that you cut and paste some test from an unlicensed source. I don't recommend the software. Try Auction Lister Creator 6. priced right. Does the job. no hidden strings, fees or email.

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So If anyone ever does a class action against them...I will be more than happy to join!! From: Black Magik Support Date: Sat Dec 6, 2003 4:13:09 PM US/Pacific To: "Daren Fentiman" Subject: Re: upgrade On 12/6/03 1:25 PM, daren@exposurephotographics.com wrote: So all the original customers who paid for a product, that on the service doesn't appear to have changed much at all, are left with a dead product? You are left with what you've paid for - nothing more, nothing less. We offered free 12 month subscriptions to all eLister 1 users, at great expense to us, despite the fact that the changes were not our fault. We made every effort to get this information out to our eLister 1 customers - it was posted in mulitple locations on our website and sent out to our mailing list. I'm sorry if you missed it, but that's really not our fault. The people who gave you the $$ to be able continue. Now I understand we are only talking about a $40.00 product, but I would understand a small upgrade fee...etc say $10.00 1/4 the intial investment. Instead you want me to say oh well. That doesn't make good business sense to me. We are already charging as little as we can and are barely able to stay in business with what we make now, especially after paying for most of our previous users to have a free year of the new service. I would have been happy to have given your product another try, but I don't like feeling taken advantage of. If anyone has been taken advantage of, it's obviously us - not by you necessarily, but certainly by eBay. We've done more than could be expected of any company to help out our paying customers. I never received any upgrade offer..etc. When I contacted you, you couldn't even find any record of my purchase. I had to contact paypal to find it myself. Why don't you have the information? When you received your license information you were told, quite explicitly, to make sure that you printed out a copy and put it in a safe place for future reference. Accidents happen - this one is you own fault. I'm sorry if this is the way you feel good businees is done. I suppose that it is rather foolish to expect people to be reasonable. We treat all of our customers fairly though, and that's about the best that we can do. I can only suggest that you take your business elsewhere - it's certainly no longer welcome here. PS I guess that also goes with never even signing your name to any of your emails, so a person would know who there dealing with. C. A. Arthur Director of Lycanthropy (There, does that make you feel better?)

I have used eLister since its preLister days and have been very pleased with its migration to OS X. I have no problems at all with the program's operation and love its many features. Emails to Black Magik have been quickly answered. As far as the costs go, most of the problem lies with eBay's gouging of developers. Most users do no know that eBay charges developers a fee to access their code/site and this must be passed on to the consumer. If the Mac community wants to have quality software developed by 3rd party folks for niche uses, we must be willing to pay for it. I'll bet most folks don't mind shelling out monthly fees for many of their services such as cell phone and cable. Let the boys at BM be and pay the small 6 month renewal and add a dollar to each eBay listing. That should do it.

I've used eLister since it was called Prelister. I found it to be a great time saver and the customer support was more than adequate. Tim Brown generally answered most of my questions and/or took suggestions for features I thought would make eLister a better product. His answers were always polite though in a cold business like manner. That's the good news. I too, have been dismayed by this "subscription fee" fiasco. Worse, Im running 9.x using elister 2.3.1 and I 've had so many damn problems with elister and Internet explorer 5.6.1. I could scream!!! I sent an email with my concerns about elister and IE included with other problems I was having. No response to elister/IE but he did answer my other questions. Has anybody else found this to be true? That eLister & IE don't like each other? It became so severe, with system freezes & crashes, I had to give up using eLister last June and migrated to Sparedollar.com. BTW , do tryout Sparedollar, an online listing service. It is GREAT!! Though, a few kinks here and there, it still makes a viable alternative to eLister. ( Im not affliated what-so-ever w/ Sparedollar!) After using Sparedollar most of my problems with freezes and crashes ended as soon as I stopped using elister. Weird isn' it or was it coincidence. Who knows? R.

I told you so! See my MacUpdate review of this guy - May 2002. It's really sad that a company operates this way, and fortunely very rare in the Macintosh community. This program was in fact good at listing ebay auctions, but of course, the developer was as more concerned with making money than helping people list auctions on ebay. I have long since moved over to Auction Listing Creator 6. What a breath of fresh air. Try it out, I find this software very useful and the price is right!

eLister download links have been removed from MacUpdate for the following reasons: Numerous users have reported unethical licensing issues with Black Magik, where they charge fees for new version releases after stating that they wouldn't. Black Magik requested that MacUpdate remove the entire listing of all of their software, because they felt the user reviews pointint out the unethical business practices of Black Magik where unfounded. However, because of the large number of people reporting the same unethical issues, we feel they are VERY substantiated and need to be heard by the public. Black Magik has sent MacUpdate a letter (not from an official legal source) saying that they plan to charge MacUpdate $1.75 per download referred from MU to their site. (where they came up with that rate I have no idea!) Obviously, simply linking to a hyperlink from one site to another is not illegal, and charging a site for a hyperlink out of the blue is ridiculous. So we've decided to leave the info page up with the user reviews so that people can continue to post their own experiences. We have however removed the hyperlinks to the files in an effort to distingish any business that we were giving Black Magik Software.

e-lister was good while it lasted. I paid the $40 registration for version 1.3.1. Sure it was a bit difficult to get the templates to work right, but once I customized one for my preference, it was great, fast, easy. But then it "EXPIRED" and I would have to buy version 2.3 and pay full price again! Wait a damn minute, when I bought 1.3.1, they stated in their web propaganda that ALL FUTURE UPGRADES WERE FREE. That's why I paid the high $40 for it. Now they want $40 per year. Screw them! I an searching for a cheaper, more permanent auction listing tool. Any advise is welcome. Black Magik is not. Do not buy their products until they learn how not to screw their customers. Now I also need to apologize to many friends to whom I recommended this software to for the past year. They are now ripped-off to. Sorry guys.

This company does not deserve your support. Read ALL the reviews and you will see that actual users do not recommend this software. If you are foolish enough to buy, be prepared for the software to quickly expire, requiring full repurchase. Their Customer Service is a disgrace.

The software works well enough, but the publisher is reason enough to avoid this BIG TIME! Rude emails are unfair upgrade charges are quite common from this company. Do yourself a favor and find another solution.

I have used this product for well over a year and I LOVE it! Don't listen to the NEG reviews. You get what you pay for with this one. Never had any major problems running the software and have always had great support from company. Elister has saved me time and time again listing my stuff on ebay. Try it!

DON'T BUY THIS SOFTWARE. The positive reviews were written by the developer and his friends. The software is garbage, and will stop working shortly after you buy it, requiring a new, full priced update.

This is a pretty nice product - when it functions according to Hoyle. I think the bells and whistles are great, but the templates are problematic. Support has been average or less...it was much better in the earlier going with Prelister. With elister I've had questions go unanswered and those that were answered were done so without much customer caring. Yup, seems pretty expensive. We'll have to see how things progress before I renew.

What happened to this program and eBay? Both to commercialized! And both have lost their basic premise. Upgrade fees are unrealistic with no analysis of whether using this program actually increases you chances of selling your good. *Danger Will Robinson...Danger*

Avoid this program and this company at all costs. All they want is to keep charging you full price for incremental upgrades, even when the upgrades would fix a problem that made the older version unusable. Also, the program always adds am ad for their lousy product at the end of every auction you submit with the program. I asked them why that happens, and they said if i didn't want the ad, I would have to pay even more money. Do Not Buy from this company

AVOID Black Magik AT ALL COST. As stated by other reviewers, if you buy their software it will expire without notice. If you complain, the developer, Tim Brown, treats you like you are scum.

Beware of eLister!!!!!! These guys are crooks!!!!! I paid full price for PreLister, then full price for eLister. Then when they released an upgrade, they fixed it so that when I did an eBay category update, it disabled my eLister software permanently!!!!! A friend of mine had the same experience. I PAID FOR ELISTER, AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO DISABLE IT TO FORCE ME TO PAY FOR AN UPGRADE. I HAVE THE RIGHT TO CONTINUE USING THE VERSION I PAID FOR. ...THEY ARE JUST PLAIN DISHONEST!!!!!

The business practices of Black Magick are appaling. Every time there is some sort of change, even if it is only bugfixes, he wants you to pay full price. Plus, every auction you post with elister puts an ad at the bottom of your auctions, and you cannot have this 'feature' disabled unless you pay him some more money. Don't waste your money buying from this guy, you will regret it later when he asks for another $40 from you for a 'subscription' to his software.

I've been using this program for my Ebay auctions for years now and I would urge anyone thinking about using it themselves to try it out and make their own decision since it seems clear that something fishy is going with the ratings here.

This is a lousy program and their support is awful. I've only managed to post 16 auctions while working teh bugs out of this crap and now, guess what, there is a new version I need to buy to fix the problems. Do I get a price break? Nope, full price buckaroos! If anyone knows of a decent and resonable ebay utility for Mac, please email me. eLister is not the answer.

Anonymous is actually (Tim Brown ) that has been busted by his former "registered users" and needs con new ones. He will pull this review when it gets too low like he does on versiontracker on a regular basis? I don't think his previous paying customers have forgetten his shady business tactics.

Nostrildomus, are you the same Nostrildomus (Kenny White) who is always trying to pirate shareware in the warez newsgroups? Maybe that's why they have a problem with you.

I had the identical experience as "tankknight" and agree 100%; in addition I was treated very rudely by their support . I just got tired of paying full price for each minor upgrade.

These guys are great! I had some trouble getting started that was apparently caused by a problem specific to my layouts and they got it fixed and uploaded a new one for me in a matter of hours. It works like a charm now and I'm cruising right along!

eLister is practically a requirement for anyone running a serious eBay business. I wouldn't even want to imagine what my business would be like without this software! I've also had to write for support once or twice and I've found them to be extremely friendly and helpful.

I have used this product since the beginning when it was pre-Lister. I think it was great, but the only way to keep using it was to pay full price for each upgrade (including the betas). No more, I have paid too much to this company. only to be shafted each time their greed kicks in. Yeah, nice that they support the Mac ... they couldn't get away with shafting the Win side owing to competition! They got Versiontracker to wipe out the bad ratings/comments with each upgrade, but in the end they left Versiontracker ... probably because no one left good ratings/comments anymore!

This guy has always been very helpful when i wrote in with support questions. All email replies were timely and polite, offering fixes or good explanations. I DID get a free upgrade from pre-lister to eLister 1.0, but I did not get the upgrade to eLister 2.0. My request was not even answered - but I do feel that the software is worthy of the price. especially considering that there is nothing else out there for Mac users that can even scrape the surface of what eLister does for ebay sellers.

Horrible customer support = Horrible Review.

Awesome!

I also paid full price for this product. When suggesting that registered users get a price break on the upgrade I was treated rudely by their support folks. [I have the emails to back this up] They will pull this product from this site as soon as the rating get too low - just like they do every few months on version tracker. Dump your attitude and start treating the paying customers like most reputable companies.

Mark is happy right now, but wait until this shareware author makes some interface or other major changes. When this happens he will ask that you pay FULL PRICE once again. Your good support will go out the window with a "screw you" attitude! This is what happened to users such as myself who paid $39.95 for Pre-Lister. He is the only shareware developer I have seen that requires existing customers to pay full price. These are the very people that supported him through the beta process on Pre-Lister.

The author of this program is a greedy man. He lured us into paying full price $40 for a Beta version of Prelister. When it became a final release he renamed the thing and offered no upgrade options. I paid $40 for a piece of beta software that is incompatible with OS X. This is a pretty crappy way to do business and you have lost mine forever.

This software is easy to set up and use. Saves me time over using a listing service. The customer support can not be beat! Fast reply on questions, and is very helpful for the questions relating to template work. Has some great templates that can be purchase for very little $ in additional to some free ones above what comes with eLister. Highly recommended to new auction seller or the advanced seller.