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22 June 2018

Builds of WebKit for OS X 10.5 (release candidate).

macuser87
03 August 2012

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Excellent browser, I use it every day on my PowerBook. An invaluable addition to the world of Power Mac software making H.264 easy for everyone. Also check out AQUADock and AuroraFox to complete your free PowerPC refurb. Even early G4s can join the party with Leopard Assist.
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Aargl
18 June 2018
The PSU of my main computer died and I had to reactivate my old iMac G5... This is the moment when you feel lucky knowing this app: it became a blessing! It’s way faster than its nearer competitor TenFourFox. It lacks useful extensions such as uBlock Origin and uMatrix, but the old version of Ghostery is behaving well enough. Some sites with embedded audio and video players won’t work, but you can play Youtube quite all right, if you’re not running any other hungry program. Thanks again, Tobias! :-)
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Version 226588
iTruth
13 March 2018
Lol but WHY??? Would you like some bellbottoms and platforms with this also? Talk about being stuck in the past! LMAO!
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Version 226588
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B-Jefferson-Le-Blanc
B-Jefferson-Le-Blanc
14 March 2018
Obviously there's a need for this. Just read the comments below. What that need is I don't know, but the developer is clearly having fun with the project so, as others have said, kudos for making this obscure piece of software available to those who need it. While the number of people still using Snow Leopard is declining, it's still one of most highly regarded versions of OS X. Particularly as it was the last version to support PPC apps via Rosetta.
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Aargl
Aargl
27 March 2018
This is a build of recent Webkit to run on PPC machines.
Yes, some people still use them: if you don't need/want the last iThing and just run a bit of Internet, they still work great.
What's the point of laughing at people that don't do the same things as you? We could also be "LMAO" about people spending thousands of bucks just to be on top of the trend with the last iPhone, iPad, iMac, etc. ;-)
Life is not only about speed, you know... :-D
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RavenNevermore
RavenNevermore
22 June 2018
@Aargl, not about speed, but compatibility. What current software runs on PPC? I had a friend that would not sell her PowerMac 7600 after OS X came out... she insisted on sticking with OS 9. Of course eventually she was stuck with old software, and had to upgrade to a new Mac.
It's a shame there's so many very capable G5s still out there, but what can you run on them?
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Leesa
Leesa
18 October 2018
@ iTruth

Talk about being a little turd.
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Aargl
09 February 2018
There are still updates (current being 604.5.6 r226588) but you have to dig into the repository to get the last one: https://sourceforge.net/projects/leopard-webkit/files/604/Leopard/PowerPC/ I wonder why the Download button on the main page still points to version 603.3.3, is it because the others are considered beta/rc? Or is it just an oversight? Anyway, they work perfectly! I'd say version 604.5.6 is actually better than 604.4.5 (there was a 20% CPU footprint that remained for a long while, now it's gone).
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Version 223797
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Aargl
Aargl
12 March 2018
The site's Download button has finally been updated and so this page. :-)
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Aargl
14 January 2018
It's very nice to have the latest webkit running on my old G5, but what an irony that no one is doing the same job for 10.6 or 10.9...
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Version 223797
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LJMac
LJMac
17 May 2018
Yes - how I'd love this for 10.6!
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Aargl
Aargl
04 March 2019
LJMac, you might be interested in this port of TenFourFox for 10.6. ;-)
https://github.com/OlgaTPark/tenfourfox/releases/
I've just tested it on a 32 bit 10.6 and it works perfectly!
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LJMac
LJMac
13 May 2019
Thanks for the info AArgi! Although I still prefer Safari or even Chrome in terms of usability, this is definitely the most compatible browser currently available for 10.6, and without your link I would never have found it!
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Aargl
Aargl
13 May 2019
Always happy to help! :-)
But the wonders never cease... ;-)
Shortly after my former post I've discovered another port of FireFox: https://github.com/wicknix/Arctic-Fox/wiki/Downloads
In terms of speed, it beats out any other browser available for 10.6! — and it is regularly updated for Firefox security issues.
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LJMac
LJMac
13 May 2019
I couldn't get either the 32 bit or the 64 bit versions of ArcticFox for 10.6 to launch, even after removing all preferences. Oh well, TenSixFox is working well for me (i particularly like its built-in ffmpeg support, so it can play H264 fine).
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Aargl
Aargl
13 May 2019
Damned! You're right! It crashes on launch — version 27.9.15 was working perfectly... :-(
Unfortunately they don't have a repository for old versions, no doubt they'll fix it soon, as v27.9.17 has just been released. ;-)
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Albabe
13 March 2017
I wanna thank you too, for your Snow Leopard build! Do you nice folks have a updated and secure version of WebKit for Mavericks users?
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Version 210430
Leesa
09 March 2017
You guys are AMAZING! You saved my life in Snow Leopard when Apple ditched us. Thanx so much!!! And now I'm gonna try out your Mavericks Version! Thanx again!
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Version 210430
Aargl
02 March 2016
The REALLY last 10.6 and Intel-compatible version is available at https://sourceforge.net/projects/leopard-webkit/files/537/%28Snow%29%20Leopard/ It's r171822 (537.78.2_4). As after Safari 5.1, webkit2 is completely different, the dev is now only working for 10.5.
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Version 184141
Aargl
24 August 2015
In my experience, it's not easy to tell, between Safari and any subsequent Webkit version, if one works best, but very recently I found that some website was not rendering properly with Safari<v5.0.5 and Leopard WebKit fixed it! So thanks a lot Tobias! :-)
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Version 184141
duartevassal
12 August 2015
I'm having trouble updating the security certificates (a most useful feature from this release, let me add): administrator$ /Applications/Leopard\ webkit\ system\ wide/update\ system\ certificates.command ; exit; Please read the Readme before proceeding with this! Do you really want to replace the original system security certificates with the ones from OS X 10.9 (Y/N)? y In case you are prompted to enter a password, please enter the super user password Password: ditto: can't get real path for source ditto: can't get real path for source ditto: can't get real path for source ditto: can't get real path for source Password: logout [Process completed] ???? If I look at keychain I have 2 system root certificates (are not trusted) that start in 2012 and end in 2032, is this supposed to be like this?
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Version 184141
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internetzel
internetzel
15 August 2015
From the path I see that you copied the file "update system certificates.command" to your hard drive.
That script will only work when the WebKit application is placed in the same folder.
And currently the script will only work when there aren't any white spaces in the path - the next version will have that fixed.
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If this really supports Snow Leopard, that is a great contribution. Kudos and applause for the developer. Apple has long abandoned updates to Safari to run on 10.6, while lots of third party browsers continue to support it. This lack of continued support, is probably one reason to avoid using Safari. However, it seems that there are separate downloads for separate Leopard and Snow Leopard versions. So, one wonders if maybe there ought not be a separate MacUpdate page for the Snow Leopard version? Currently, the MacUpdate download link seems to give one a Leopard only download. http://sourceforge.net/projects/leopard-webkit/files/ has the various OS specific installers. All of the downloads in the 600, 538 folders, say they are for Leopard Power PC. However, the 537 folder does have a mixture of Leopard and Snow Leopard installers.
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Version 183712
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internetzel
internetzel
11 May 2015
You're right in that the 600-series is PowerPC 10.5 only.
A link to the last build of the 537 series which is PowerPC/Intel and 10.5/10.6 compatible is available if you hover the download arrow icon above, behind the list entry that says "Older (OS X 10.5) 169580". Despite of its name it's a 10.6 compatible build while the current version isn't.
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Thinking-Differently
Thinking-Differently
11 May 2015
Yes, i'm betting that MacUpdate just wasn't setup for this kind of a situation. (Where the newer version runs on the older OS and verse visa)

I also note that my version of Safari seems to be version 5.1.10 while the documentation suggests that I need to use the older version 5.0.5 for webkit. Might there be any plans to support the 5.1.10 version?

Also, some of the extras are wonderful!! For example, your script to update the system SSL certificates is also a great service in its own right.

And thanks again for this great service.
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internetzel
internetzel
11 May 2015
Safari 5.1 and later use a completely different interface to the web engine, consisting of WebCore and JavaScriptCore. Safari until version 5.0 used WebKit and Safari 5.1 and later use WebKit 2. While the first release of WebKit 2 was compatible with 10.6, support for 10.6 was quickly dropped and now backporting would be quite a lot of work - and I don't have any 10.6 compatible Macs around.

In the downloadable disk image you'll find instructions how to downgrade to Safari 5.0.5 - and all in all Safari 5.0.5 with Leopard WebKit should be faster and more stable than Safari 5.1, with the exception of flash content.
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Canadianpj
Canadianpj
17 May 2015
Wouldn't it just be easier to update to a OS released in the last 3 years at least?
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Thinking-Differently
Thinking-Differently
17 May 2015
No, it would not.
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B-Jefferson-Le-Blanc
B-Jefferson-Le-Blanc
14 March 2018
Name me one current browser that still supports Snow Leopard. All the mainstream browsers cut off at 10.9.x—Firefox, Chrome and Opera.
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Leesa
04 May 2015
Thanx again for all your selfless hard work! Works Awesome!!!
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Version 183712
Leesa
08 September 2014
When I do a Command I on the New Client (9-7-14) it says its r169580., but it also says it was "Modified, June 27, 2011 5:22 AM The last one said: r166320 Modified Wednesday August 1, 2012 6:45 PM.
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Version 169580
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internetzel
internetzel
08 September 2014
Yes, I built r169580 quite a while ago but didn't take the time to post update the listing here on MacUpdate. I took Snow Leopard support as a reason to release this otherwise minor update.
But I don't know why the previous version had a later time stamp than the current.
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Leesa
Leesa
09 September 2014
@ Tobias Netzel

Thanx for all your hard work!
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Leesa
17 April 2014
Thanx again for keeping this browser alive for the few of us luddites that can't afford a new Computer! I was wondering if it would be possible for Webkit to see pages like this? The News section here won't load at all. I assume its because we old Leopard users don't have a recent enough Flash to go along with our Webkit, but I figured I'd, at least, ask. http://crooksandliars .com/2014/04/department-interior-asked-investigate-alec
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Version 165532
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Leesa
Leesa
17 April 2014
And either way, thanx!
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internetzel
internetzel
17 April 2014
Thats's a really interesting case; it doesn't seem to load that section in any version of Leopard WebKit ever released. Does it work with stock Safari 5.0.6? What about Safari on other OS?
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Leesa
Leesa
18 April 2014
@ (developer) Doesn't load in Safari either.. but it does load in the Firefox that works in Leopard.
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Albabe
Albabe
22 April 2014
It loads in the Safari from Mavericks.
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internetzel
internetzel
22 April 2014
Thanks for testing. In the web inspector error logs there is an entry that indicates that the server certificates (used for https connections, https://1.rp-api.com/ in this case) might need an update. When trying to open https://1.rp-api.com/ you'll need to confirm that you trust in it's certificate. After confirming the news section on crooksandliars.com should load.
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Leesa
Leesa
22 April 2014
@ Tobias Netzel (developer) It works!!! Thanx so much!!!
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Leesa
Leesa
13 May 2014
Thanx again for all the help. The odd thing with getting this certificate is I have to do it every week or so.
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internetzel
internetzel
14 May 2014
The latest version comes with a script "update system certificates" that will install more current system certificates which will solve this problem permanently.
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Albabe
Albabe
14 May 2014
@ Tobias Netzel You guys are awesome! I will miss you when I've finally got enough money to buy a new Mac... sigh. Is the "update system certificates" a Preference that I have to check? Is it in this latest version or the next? Thanx again!!!
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internetzel
internetzel
14 May 2014
That script (plus the files it needs to update the installed certificates) is contained in the current version (166320).
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Leesa
Leesa
19 May 2014
Hey guys. I'm still having problems with stuff like this: http://crooksandliars.com/2014/05/meet-dangerous-open-carry-ammosexuals-and I had to come back here and reload your https://1.rp-api.com/ and accept the certificate before it would load the page. I'm using the latest Kit.
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internetzel
internetzel
19 May 2014
You have to double click the item "update system certificates", confirm that you want to install by responding to the question with "Y" and finally enter the superuser password.
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Leesa
Leesa
20 May 2014
@ Tobias Netzel Okeee... I'm confused. I don't recall exactly but... When WebKit wouldn't load that page last week, I went to the url you posted above, then it asked something about accepting the certificate... I did. I didn't see any place to use my password. Does "Y' equal "Yes?"
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internetzel
internetzel
21 May 2014
The item "update system certificates" is a file that appears next to the WebKit application after opening the downloaded file. Sorry for confusing you - I should have expressed more precisely.
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Leesa
Leesa
27 May 2014
I ran the "update system certificates" in the Terminal and it seemed to work for a few days, but now it doesn't seem to be working at all. In fact, I started having to go to the above site that you posted and accept the Certificate 2 or 3 times a day. And Now when even after I go to this site: https://1.rp-api.com/ ... and update the Certificate, this page no longer loads the repostit content. http://crooksandliars.com/2014/05/lower-standards-apply-republican Did they change the Certificate?
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Leesa
Leesa
27 May 2014
Now its working again!
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Aargl
16 March 2014
I don't know how reliable is my trial, but here it is: This webkit side by side with Safari on an iMac G5, loading different pages, some full with heavy animated gifs, other more simple like this here MU page ;-) I loaded each page first in Webkit as it's supposed to be faster (and to avoid the possible cache effect, which should accelerater a second loading) Well, 'this is not a revolution' ;-) but it's generally ab it faster than Safari, though Monitor Activity shows the same footprint. It won't turn your G5 into an Intel Mac, but it's reliable, as far as I can tell, so why not use it? :-)
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Version 165532
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internetzel
internetzel
28 March 2014
Well, speed is not the main advantage of Leopard WebKit. It's the bug fixes and new features "under the hood" that make it work using it. About the only visible benefit is the possibility of full screen HTML5 video playback, i.e. on youtube. I don't know for sure but it might be considerably faster on dual G4, dual or quadruple G5 system.
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Aargl
Aargl
28 March 2014
Oh, good to know! Thanks for the tip! :-)
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Leesa
09 March 2014
Great client... but this newest version Breaks my Windowshade Command: Option Double Click to Open or close All Windows in any given ap.
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Version 165318
Leesa
01 March 2014
What seems odd to me... Is that there is a brand New updated Leopard Webkit for my G5 every few months... but no New Webkit or Safari or even a Security Fix for my Safari in Snow Leopard since 2012.
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Version 164899
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Leesa
Leesa
03 March 2014
And Just FYI: This Webkit works awesome on my old G5!!!
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internetzel
internetzel
04 March 2014
There are some reasons for that: 1. I didn't found anyone to do the Snow Leopard build and testing, and I don't have access to any Intel Macs (Leopard WebKit is a project I run in my spare time). 2. Even if there was a Snow Leopard build of Leopard WebKit it wouldn't support WebKit2, which means that Safari would only work up to version 5.0 .
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Albabe
21 October 2013
This works fantastic!!! Kudos to the WebKit Team! I assumed there would never be a decent Safari for PPC and yet, here it is! It is faster and better in so many ways, than the last FireFox for PPC and even Casino! The last version stalled and beachballed constantly. It would take 2 or 3 solid minutes just to Open the app and then it would beachball for 30 seconds to a minute every time I opened a new Window. It totally sucked... big time. And now these very generous folks have given my old doddering G5 a new lease on life! Highly Recomended!!! Thanx!!!
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Version 155156
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Leesa
Leesa
22 October 2013
Except for one thing: Every time I start it up, I get this: "A new nightly build of WebKit is available! Please take a moment to update to it before continuing your testing." There is no new build for PPC available. Could we make that go away, please?
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Mikael-B
Mikael-B
24 January 2014
How does it compare to Tenfourfox?
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Leesa
Leesa
05 February 2014
@ Mikael B I have no idea... sorry.
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Macfool
28 December 2012
This particular version for G5 and G4 is probably the best browser available for the PPC Mac series. It is Safari 5.06 with the latest Webkit updates. A word to the wise. Follow the advice in the README from the folder after opening the .DMG The most current version of this application is here : http://leopard-webkit.googlecode.com/files/WebKit-536.28.8-Leopard-PowerPC.dmg
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Version 134862
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Macfool
Macfool
29 December 2012
As of 12/29/12 AM this is the latest version and can be found here: http://leopard-webkit.googlecode.com/files/WebKit-536.28.8-Leopard-PowerPC.dmg
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internetzel
internetzel
29 December 2012
Well, the one currently linked here is 536.28.8 as well.
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Aargl
10 September 2012
The current release is stable even with extensions on (I had only one crash, probably related to them) and looks, not faster, but more fluent than the original Safari webkit (10.5.8 PPC) — I don't recall having the Beach Ball of Death since I'm running it! ;-) I'm only using the app, for the time being, needs to try this as properly installed on my test-partition... But at least, for the app, you can go safe. If you hope to have a better video experience, don't hope too much as problems are generally related to Flash...
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Version 127368
LJMac
04 September 2012
This is fantastic! 5.0.6 was the best ever version of Safari, and 10.5 is my favourite version of the Mac OS. Now I can keep running both of them until my current Macs die. Awesome!
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Version 127368
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iPoopStore
iPoopStore
24 June 2013
I disagree. Version 5.0.5 was the last and best Safari. If you updated to 5.0.6 or above and used 1Password you were stuck with new ugly and useless 1Password extension.
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Monkeyjunkey
28 August 2012
Where's the nightly channel for WebKit for Mac OS X >= 10.6? I can't find an entry on MU. Should imo be added as a listing.
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Version 126681
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-M-S-
-M-S-
28 August 2012
Can you email updates@ macupdate.com with some more info on this? We'll get it added.
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Macfool
Macfool
30 August 2012
http://code.google.com/p/leopard-webkit/downloads/list The latest version is http://code.google.com/p/leopard-webkit/downloads/detail?name=WebKit-537.7-Leopard.dmg&can=2&q=
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Macfool
Macfool
30 August 2012
Runs on 10.5 as well. ; O }
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Aargl
25 August 2012
I'm not absolutely sure about how to use this: I've installed it through the install script, but now have I still to use the Webkit app to launch it or is Safari already using it? (if I understood well, any other app using webkit like Mail will use it now that I installed it, right?)
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Version 126395
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Aargl
Aargl
25 August 2012
I think I've got my answer, as I've had crashes with extensions on wether using Webkit app or Safari... ;-)
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internetzel
internetzel
27 August 2012
The extension related crashes have been fixed and a newer version is available (soon this listing will be updated) here: http://leopard-webkit.googlecode.com/files/WebKit-537.7-Leopard.dmg Installing is optional and also experimental. It however has the benefit of using less memory, because applications that use the installed WebKit frameworks will share one copy of it. For me installing works quite well ususally, although there seems to be an issue with quicklook crashing for Microsoft Office documents.
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Aargl
Aargl
27 August 2012
Thanks a lot for this precise answer! :-)
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Aargl
Aargl
27 August 2012
I'm wondering: would installing Webkit frameworks make Mail work better? (I mean, in Leopard, it often stalls on launch and the only trick I found is to launch it with shift-key pressed...) On my test partition where I installed it, it looks like working fluently...
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internetzel
internetzel
28 August 2012
It's absolutely possible that some Mail related issues have been fixed in more recent versions of WebKit. But from time to time it can break some things as well.
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macuser87
03 August 2012
Excellent browser, I use it every day on my PowerBook. An invaluable addition to the world of Power Mac software making H.264 easy for everyone. Also check out AQUADock and AuroraFox to complete your free PowerPC refurb. Even early G4s can join the party with Leopard Assist.
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Version 123874
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macuser87
macuser87
13 August 2012
http://powerpcliberation.blogspot.ca/2012/08/leopard-performance-on-sub-867mhz-g4.html
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ApplesGuy
20 July 2012
have used Leopard webkit for a while now and this version seems to be the most stable; and it fixes the memory leaks in safari 5.06 and runs fast too and i could do full screen html 5 video with clicktoflash)in youtube despite having a radeon 9000 pro in my powermac g4 (which can't be done in regular safari 5.06)
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Version 122683
Manis
20 July 2012
So glad that there still are some developers that develop for the greatest architecture ever! Thanks a lot!
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Version 122683
Dokter-mac
20 July 2012
Thank you so much!!! You don't know how long I've been looking for something like this for my dual G5!!!! I still use my G5 for several things. Even when I own the following Intel Macs: iMac 17" 2,16GHZ DualCore 2GB RAM, MacBook Pro Core i5 4GB RAM, Two 27" iMacs (one @ 3,33GHZ dual core 8GB RAM and a 2,8GHZ Core i7 with turbo mode and 16GB RAM) and last but not least a MacBook Air Core i7 1,8GHZ 4GB RAM! Still my good 'old' PowerMac G5 (dual proc @ 2,7GHZ with water cooling and 8GB RAM) runs almost every day together with his Intel mates ;) It's great that developers still care about this powerful Mac! Thanks. (Please don't start a PPC-Intel machine thread about which is the best...)
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Version 122683
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internetzel
internetzel
20 July 2012
So stay stuned for the upcoming 64 bit G5 optimized builds - although I can't test them myself as I don't own any G5 based Mac. The current builds are 32 bit tuned for not performing too bad on G5s while still running on G4s. So there will not only be 64 bit G5 optimized builds but also 32 bit G4 7450 optimized builds.
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Dokter-mac
Dokter-mac
21 July 2012
Awesome!!! You're so cool :). If you can't test the 64 bit G5 optimized build, you'll have no problems receiving feedback and bugs ;) Again, many thanks from the community for all the optimized builds! Sincerely.
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