QuoteFix
QuoteFix 2.5.3
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Enables bottom-posting for Mail messages.   Free
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QuoteFix is a plug-in for Apple Mail which enables "bottom-posting": instead of replying above a message (as Apple Mail does by default), it will place the cursor below the original message when you reply to, or forward, a message.

Other features include:
  • removing the senders signature from the reply
  • customized attributions (including HTML and templating)
  • and generally cleaning up replies/forwards so your messages will look good, clean and spiffy
What's New
Version 2.5.3:
  • Support for OS X 10.9.2
Requirements
Intel, OS X 10.8 or later



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Chas_m commented on 27 Feb 2014
Hey, thanks for continuing to support this valuable tool. I have been using it for years and I really appreciate it being available! Cheers!
[Version 2.5.3]


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Snowlprd reviewed on 11 Nov 2013
QuoteFix is a fantastic plugin that I can't imagine living without. I only wish Mail.app did bottom-posting by default!
[Version 3]


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Quantumpanda commented on 09 Nov 2013
I'll skip the beta and wait for a release before installing v. 3, but is there any chance that this version does or will include the option to move my signature to wherever I have asked QuoteFix to put the cursor?

If I'm using it normally and bottom-posting, it's fine, but if I override it to top-post, my signature stays at the bottom. And if I turn on Mail's option to place the signature above the quoted text, then QuoteFix is unable to move either the cursor or the signature to the bottom.

While I prefer bottom-posting, there are times when it is necessary and/or more appropriate to top-post, and it's frustrating having manually move my signature from the bottom in those cases.
[Version 3]

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Snowlprd replied on 11 Nov 2013
I really dislike signatures polluting the conversation thread. Eliminating the signature entirely would likely be the solution most appreciated by folks receiving your mail. :^)
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Quantumpanda replied on 11 Nov 2013
Snowlprd, maybe you're right and maybe you're not, but in the first place, that comment is entirely unhelpful. Second, my email signature consists solely of my name and my email address. There's nothing "polluting" about that. And in many contexts, identifying yourself in your email is kind of important. So your opinion is duly noted and rejected as irrelevant. Have a good day.
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Robert Klep (developer) replied on 13 Nov 2013
QuoteFix doesn't handle the placement of signatures, nor do I plan to implement it. But perhaps the 'SignatureProfiler' plug-in by Little Known Software can do what you want, although I'm not familiar with it.
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Snowlprd replied on 15 Nov 2013
Quantumpanda: It's unfortunate that you reacted so negatively to my sincerely-proffered suggestion. Seeing an email signature repeated multiple times in a conversation thread does indeed constitute noise pollution, adding no value to the conversation. Speaking of "unhelpful," I fail to see in what contexts your email signature — consisting solely of your name and email address — is in any way helpful. After all, your name and email address is already present in the email headers and likely included in any quoted blocks as well.

Email signatures are almost always redundant and distracting.
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Quantumpanda replied on 15 Nov 2013
Robert: Thanks for the tip. I'll look into that.

Snowlprd: I could go point by point and explain all the reasons that your comment was unhelpful and irrelevant. But since I really don't care whether you agree with me or not, I won't waste the time. Suffice it to say that your failure to see a context in which a signature is helpful has zero bearing on my reasons for using one.
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Maccampus reviewed on 30 Oct 2013
QuoteFix Seems to work on Maverick after fixing it with Mailpluginfix.app

However when will you update to Maverick & bring an official supported version ?

Which versions of QuoteFix work for Tiger, Leopard, SnowLeopard, Lion & MountainLion ? Reading the download Page on GoogleCode doesn't clarify this & you haven't got a History on your Plugin, it would be nice to know which versionsi exactly need for supporting users of older OS X versions.
[Version 2.4.16]


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Andrew K reviewed on 04 Nov 2012
Simple but great software. Does what it says. That's what I need from software!
[Version 2.4.13]


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Negritude commented on 24 Feb 2012
My personal opinion is that whether you prefer top-posting or bottom-posting depends on how long you've been using virtualized communications technology.

If you know what a dial-up Bulletin Board System (BBS) is and have used one, you probably prefer bottom-posting.

If you fondly remember something called the ARPAnet -- which was created by federal, military, and scientific institutions, not for-profit corporations -- you probably prefer bottom-posting.

If hearing the names "Archie" and "Veronica" makes you think of something other than cartoon characters, you probably prefer bottom-posting.

If when you think of "The Matrix", you think of a book instead of a movie, you probably prefer bottom-posting.

I could go on, but my basic point is, I think the explanation for one's preference is at least partly generational.
[Version 2.4.5]

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Cunamara replied on 08 Apr 2012
It messes up the logical flow of reading.

What's wrong with top posting?



I think that one's preference for posting style is based upon whether one's practical or scholastic education involved learning how to write in an incisive, analytical and logical manner. While not universally the case, I find that top posters too often lack those skills in the first place. Many of those meet all the "criteria" you suggest for preferring bottom posting (which BTW is a markedly inaccurate term).
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Mplem reviewed on 06 Dec 2011
Quite good but doesn't work when you have a automatically pre-selected signature in your message.
You must answer first, then chose your signature.
(And sorry for my English !)
[Version 2.4.3]


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Alderete reviewed on 06 Nov 2011
QuoteFix has been a godsend for me, allowing me to use Mail.app properly, instead of perpetuating the perversion that is top posting. The software has always worked as advertised, and when I've had minor issues, the developer has been highly responsive. Recommended.
[Version 2.3.2]

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Ean replied on 06 Nov 2011
Why is "top posting" perverse?
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Zo219 replied on 06 Nov 2011
Yeah, why?
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Thoiz_vd replied on 07 Nov 2011
Why would anyone who's interested in your reply want to start reading with what they wrote themselves? Unless your response speed is very, very low, I think this is counter-intuitive.
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Robert Klep (developer) replied on 07 Nov 2011
Whether top-posting is better than bottom-posting is mostly a matter of personal preference: for some people it just makes more sense that a response follows the original message.

This especially makes more sense if you, like me, tend to not include the entire original message (because, like Thoiz_vd says, who's interested in reading what they wrote themselves?), but just highlight the portion to which you want to respond. Together with the Mail preference "Include selected text, if any; otherwise include all text" this makes for clean, concise and to-the-point replies.

By the way: bottom-posting can be turned off, in case any other features of the plug-in might be of interest :-)
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Wile-E. replied on 19 Nov 2011
Ean replied on 06 Nov 2011
Why is "top posting" perverse?

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
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Quiiick replied on 23 Feb 2012
@ Wile E.
That's funny but your example is NOT a result which top-posting produces. Top-posting does not rearrange every line of text neither does it remove quotation level marks/colors.
Top-posting vs. bottom-posting is just a matter of personal preference, not a matter of right vs. wrong.
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Mrhooks replied on 02 May 2012
Top- vs. bottom-posting is not a matter of personal preference.

One of the reasons why top-posting is bad is that the people who use it don't actually use the included text for anything. They pretty much have their email clients set to include original text and then forget about it. IMHO they might as well not include it at all, because all it does is increase email sizes unnecessarily. Correct use of bottom-posting involves breaking up the original text, deleting what is unnecessary to include, and replying to the rest point by point. In essence, each point becomes its own mini-thread, and there is absolutely no confusion about each one's logical flow. It also allows for a more oral-conversational approach to correspondence, because you no longer have to restate what was in the original email in order to make clear what you are replying to.

That said, I'm not entirely sure what this app is for. Mail still puts signatures below included text, which is what's most important. Where the cursor is when I begin a reply is unimportant when I'm going to be breaking up the included text from the top down, then inserting my replies in between the pieces. Also, forwarding is different from replying in that the included text is left intact for the recipient to read, in which case top-posting is usually preferred (by me at least).
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Alderete replied on 03 May 2012
@Mrhooks: Give QuoteFix a try, and you may find that you understand its value better. It makes using natural, logical bottom posting easier for me. It's not a huge difference, you can use just Mail.app as you describe. But it's just a tiny bit quicker and more convenient with QuoteFix.
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Planetary-Paul had trouble on 28 Feb 2014
Installed it, and Mail crashed just after opening its window. Removed it, and Mail is OK again.

Any ideas?
[Version 2.5.3]


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Eric Caldwell had trouble on 14 Nov 2013
Hmm.. doesn't seem to work on my Mavericks install. Set quote level to 2 and all quotes stay in along with images which should be removed.
[Version 2.5.0]


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Mikofox had trouble on 20 Feb 2012
The latest version 2.4.4 would not update automatically. Just seems to download the file but then the update fails. Downloaded it then from the website and moved it into the Bundles folder manually, but afterwards Mail would not open at all. OS 10.6.8. Prev versions worked okay.
[Version 2.4.4]

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Robert Klep (developer) replied on 23 Feb 2012
Could you create an issue for this on the Google Code website? http://code.google.com/p/quotefixformac/issues/list

Makes it easier for me to track it :-)

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Ilyeah rated on 21 Sep 2012

[Version 2.4.11]



Jean-Jacques Cortes rated on 06 Nov 2011

[Version 2.3.2]


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QuoteFix is a plug-in for Apple Mail which enables "bottom-posting": instead of replying above a message (as Apple Mail does by default), it will place the cursor below the original message when you reply to, or forward, a message.

Other features include:
  • removing the senders signature from the reply
  • customized attributions (including HTML and templating)
  • and generally cleaning up replies/forwards so your messages will look good, clean and spiffy


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