TenFourFox
TenFourFox 24.3.0
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TenFourFox comes in different tuned versions for specific PowerPC processor families:
  • TenFourFox G5
  • TenFourFox G3
  • TenFourFox G4 - build 7450
  • TenFourFox G4 - build 7400 (also for 7410)
If you feel unsure what type of PowerPC processor your Mac has, go to the Apple menu and choose "About this Mac" and check the processor field.

On the G4 Mac open the Terminal app (in Applications -> Utilities) and type the command machine and press return. You can read more in the Wiki entry; WhichVersion.
What's New
Version 24.3.0:

Note: The 'Download Now' link yields the G5 version of TenFourFox 24.3.0

New:
  • All supported new standard features of Firefox 24, including a baseline low-latency JavaScript compiler (optimized for PowerPC), improvements to CSS and HTML5, support for webcams and microphones on compliant websites, improvements to graphic performance, and a new unified library interface for downloads and bookmarks.
Fixed:
  • All security and stability fixes from Firefox ESR 24.3.0. This includes a fix for corrupted or slow profiles stored on networked home directories (Mozilla bug 918612).
  • The browser string has been rearranged to improve sites detecting 10.4Fx "correctly" as Firefox ( issue 257 ).
  • Update checking frequency has been tuned to daily ( issue 257 ).
  • Spurious start up messages are reduced ( issue 257 ).
Version 24.3.0:

Note: The 'Download Now' link yields the G5 version of TenFourFox 24.3.0

New:
  • All supported new standard features of Firefox 24, including a baseline low-latency JavaScript compiler (optimized for PowerPC), improvements to CSS and HTML5, support for webcams and microphones on compliant websites, improvements to graphic more...
Requirements
PPC, OS X 10.4.11 or later





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TenFourFox User Discussion (Write a Review)
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Waycoolphil reviewed on 09 Feb 2014
If you can live without Flash (or can't live with it!) this is a great browser for PPC. I use it for both G5 and G4 7450. Although more and more sites work with the HTML 5 video player which works good in TenFourFox, I find that if I do need to play a Flash vid I use WebKit for Leopard PPC . WebKit is a good browser too but just a bit slower than TenFourFox.
[Version 24.3.0]


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Jazzyguy reviewed on 13 Dec 2013
Great for my G4 Imac on Leopard,This is a Great Browser.I'm glad that it is here for others to enjoy that have older systems.
[Version 24.2.0]


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hugelshofer commented on 08 Apr 2013
I really like the browser as it is constantly updated with security fixes.

I use the ESR version 17
can be found here:
http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/

and the full list of all versions here:
https://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/downloads/list

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PS: I recommend to still wait some weeks, before switching to version 20
[Version 20.0]

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Macarone replied on 09 Jul 2013
Instead of waiting for TenFourFox guyz to get their act together:

SeaMonkey 2.19 is now out and just works right away on my Dual 2.5gHz G5. I haven't even had a problem with Flash.
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Pik80 reviewed on 21 Nov 2012
Nice! I love how when you open the browser it won't load all the tabs from the last session until you roll you cursor over the tab. I don't understand the new tab feature though. Where are the previews of the tabs? I just see a blank box with the tab's name under it.
[Version 17.0]


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OSX-FTW! reviewed on 20 Nov 2012
Wonderful to have updated web browsing on older Mac hardware! The Devs deserve a huge thank you!
[Version 17.0]


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Macfool commented on 17 Nov 2012
TenFourFox 10.0.11 is out and if you want HTML 5 you will need the Quicktime enabler v.115. Also, the final version of TenFourFox 17 is also in release and the Quicktime enabler v.116 is necessary for HTML5 with that version.

You can get all of this for your PPCs here: http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/downloads/list

An extensive list to be sure but it is all here.
[Version 10.0.10]


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Rardin commented on 14 Oct 2012
TenFourFox 17.0b1 is out and includes important security and other fixes. Anyone using TFF 17.0a2 should update as soon as possible.
[Version 10.0.9]


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macuser87 reviewed on 19 Aug 2012
Without TFF we wouldn't have LW & AF! The Oxford of PowerPC browsers.
[Version 10.0.6]

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Macarone replied on 01 Mar 2013
I don't even know what LW and AF are! All I know is that installing this messed my browsing up badly. I've warned innocents in the past: only try this out on a backup partition.

This is for those who like to play with browsers rather than browse.
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thfechter reviewed on 08 Aug 2012
Great app, thank you for doing this software! Keep up the great work.

If just someone could do the same with flash.

P.S. Long live the PowerPC! :-)
[Version 10.0.6]


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Notimetoulouse commented on 07 Aug 2012
I have a G5 1.8ghz dual processor running 10.5.8 and TenFourFox 9. I've just been prompted to change over to version 10.0.6 and when I do I'm getting the 'stop sign' overwriting the icon and the dreaded "10.0.6 is not supported on this architecture". Could anyone offer any advice please?
[Version 10.0.6]


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Notimetoulouse had trouble on 07 Aug 2012
I have a G5 1.8ghz dual processor running 10.5.8 and TenFourFox 9. I've just been prompted to change over to version 10.0.6 and when I do so I'm getting the 'stop sign' overwriting the icon and the dreaded "10.0.6 is not supported on this architecture". Could anyone offer any advice please?
[Version 10.0.6]


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Notimetoulouse had trouble on 07 Aug 2012
I have a G5 1.8ghz dual processor running 10.5.8 and TenFourFox 9. I've just been prompted to change over to version 10.0.6 and when I do I'm getting the 'stop sign' overwriting the icon and the dreaded "10.0.6 is not supported on this architecture". Could anyone offer any advice please?
[Version 10.0.6]


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Strob had trouble on 04 Oct 2011
Unhappy to report that this is the slowest experience on a browser that I ever had. I am using a iMac G4/800mhz/1GRam/7450. Switching tabs takes 3-10 seconds and everything is painfully slow. Not possible to use this everyday. Any pointers to speed this thing up?

One other thing: typing a z in the address field clears everything in it.
[Version 7.0]

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Mikael B replied on 23 Oct 2011
Use version 6. It only needs 256MB. version 7 needs 512MB and you have very little RAM. 2GB have been a minimum standard for a few years now.
Unfortunately it seems 1GB is the maximum for your machine and that means you'll have to use software with small memory requirements for the best experience.
Even with the older version you'll need to quit at least some other running applications that use up your valuable resources.
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Mikael B replied on 23 Oct 2011
BTW, what OS version are you running on?
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Strob replied on 23 Oct 2011
I am using Tiger OS X 10.4.11. TenFourFox v.6.0.1 has the same problem - way too slow for practical use. I can see the cpu jump to the 50-80% range as soon as I click on a link and stay there for at least 5 seconds. Plenty of ram space for it too so I don't think my 1gb limit is the problem.
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Mikael B replied on 23 Oct 2011
Well, considering I have run TenFourFox 4.03 on a Powerbook G4 with 1GB RAM running Tiger with acceptable performance, this is somewhat unexpected results. My comparison was with Safari — 4 I think — on the same machine and I found TFF way faster, especially with several tabs. What is your comparison?

Could you try 4.03 as well and tell us if that was faster?

And this problem "z is clearing the address field" could you please clarify how? You mean if you type "http://thezoo.com" the address field is cleared?

BTW, second hand OS X 10.5 is available for a fair price and I've found it faster and better even on a Powerbook G4 4oo mhz with 1qb of RAM.
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Mikael B replied on 24 Oct 2011
You know what? Suddenly I get spinning beach balls for several seconds all over the place and slow page loads, also when I close many tabs.
This happened after I downloaded a large number of bookmarks from my Xmarks backup. I also added a few add-ons so I'll inactivate them.

I don't think it's a memory problem as I have 4GB free, but the CPU usage is suspiciously high when i get the beach balls.

I'm going to try and change version too to see if the problem disappear.

I searched for known FF7 bugs involving bookmarks and CPU usage but found nothing conclusive.
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Strob replied on 24 Oct 2011
Tried version 4 but not happy with that either. Using Camino which is faster and more stable.

Regarding the "z" problem, a little more testing has shown that typing a letter/symbol that is not in the autocomplete suggestions the URL field clears and erases what has already been typed. Very frustrating.

I have tried Leopard on this iMac but found it more sluggish than Tiger, particularly with any animation (hey it's only 32MB vram). Besides Leopard doesn't run Classic and you can't change its theme.
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Mikael B replied on 25 Oct 2011
Update: I turned off all addons and TFF is snappy again. I'm turning them on one by one and hoping it's not Firebug or Web Developer.
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Strob replied on 03 Nov 2011
You're correct, it does get faster after disabling most add-ons. However, the big bug still remains - I can't type anything into the location field before in erases. I tried disabling the history and bookmark suggestions in the preferences but then I can't type one letter without it being immediately erased.
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Aargl replied on 03 Nov 2011
Hi!
I suggest you try it from a fresh new user account (or from a new Firefox profile if you know how to do that).
For what you wrote about Leopard, I agree: on my iMac G5, it brought cosmetic changes, for the most, finder and mail are worse than in Tiger, I stick with it now that I spent so much time to upgrade, but except for Quicklook, it wasn't really worth the pain... (and I still have a Tiger partition to run some specific app!)
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Mikael B replied on 04 Nov 2011
Strob, this is not normal TFF behavior. You should try in another account or firefox profile. Something is qrong in your setup.

I reenabled the Firebug 1.8.3 addon and I can happily report it doesn't make TFF slower except for when debugging javascripts. The Web Developer active at the same time did slow down my G5 considerably, so I'm dropping that. Firebug is much more useful anyway.

I also added the Gridfox plugin. Great stuff! I will reenable all my web development addons one at a time and see which ones affect the situation.
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Mikael B replied on 04 Nov 2011
Aargl, I don't understand your preference for Tiger. Most of my software wouldn't run on Tiger and Leopard is nearing its life completion for the development I do. So I had no real choice in abandoning Tiger. Generally I found Leopard made my machines significantly more snappy, also 400Mhz Titaniums with only 1GB of RAM.
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Aargl replied on 04 Nov 2011
"Preference" is not the right word: Leopard gives an overall impression of fluidity, but I miss the Finder search in Tiger and there are bugs in Leopard's mail that were not in Tiger (I've been told they're still in Snow Leopard!).
Some things are better, some things are worse, some apps have not been updated for Leopard (or I don't want to pay for an update! ;-), it probably depends on what you do with your machine.
I was saying that in my case it wasn't worth the pain. And even more because I'm stuck to Tiger because of my version of Digidesign Pro Tools and some plugins that are not recognized in Leopard.
I have a friend who has Tiger on an iMac Intel and at first I wanted to install her a Snow Leopard, but, considering the pros and cons — and she being happy like that — I've just made the available updates and basta.
I have recently tried Leopard on a G4, but I'm still skeptical... The least I can say is that the improvement was far more important from Panzer to Tiger.
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Mikael B replied on 04 Nov 2011
I use Mail 3.6 daily and haven't encountered any bugs there so I'm not sure what you mean.

I recognize your Plugin pain. Perhaps you can go the usual route and keep your PPC machine on Tiger and get a new Intel with Snow Leopard or Lion for the future. I don't see myself losing my G5 as it's the only machine that will run old looping app Infinity well. But that is a classic app so I must boot up in Tiger in orer to use it.
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Aargl replied on 04 Nov 2011
About mail, it's mainly the inhability to maintain window size and position if it's closed with window at full size (a well-known bug, if you look at the forums) and the inevitable creation of Todos in imap boxes.
About the system, I had some process going crazy and paralyzing the iMac (PubSubAgent, spindump, dashboard.advisory...).
On a practical way, I have a 2 screen config for watching TV on main screen while having other activities on the second screen: Leopard not always deals better than Tiger on heavy load.
(I think we'd better stop this digression for not "poluting" ;-)
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Strob replied on 04 Nov 2011
Created new profile and the location field is working properly now. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Mikael B had trouble on 28 Sep 2011
To reenable plugins in TenFourFox 7.0 go to the address field and type about:config. Press return and click on the "I'll be careful, I promise" button.
In the filter input type "tenfourfox".
You now see TenFourFox related preferences and can set new values by Double clicking each preference. To reenable set "tenfourfox.plugins.enabled" to true and "tenfourfox.layout.hideplugins" to false. If you want the java plugin activated set "tenfourfox.layout.hide_java_plugin" to false. Close the window or go to a web site to verify.

Verified with Flash 10.1. I assume it will work with most other plugins as well.
[Version 7.0]

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Aargl replied on 30 Sep 2011
Thank you for this great tip! :-)
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Mikael B replied on 03 Oct 2011
Aargl, You're welcome of course.
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montyson had trouble on 26 Sep 2011
I'm on a G5 PPC running 10.4.11 and my newly loaded 6.0.1 displays most body copy as numbers in boxes. Heads and subheads are mostly OK. Coding is set at UFT 8 and sites are allowed to select their own fonts is on.
Any ideas.
THX
[Version 6.0.1]

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Mikael B replied on 28 Sep 2011
Have you tried deleting the preference file and/or with a new firefox profile?
You could also try the now available TenFourFox 7.0.
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Mikael B had trouble on 18 Sep 2011
Anyone else seeing odd layout at facebook? My left navigation area have been slided horizontally all the way from its earlier left position to now residing well below, but on the right side of the search box. It's in TFF 4, 5 and 6.
[Version 6.0.1]

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Mikael B replied on 28 Sep 2011
This problem seems to be no more in TenFourFox 7.0 at least. I assume it's changes at Facebook that fixed it though.
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Aargl had trouble on 28 Jul 2011
There's also a bug about windows default places (probably only if you have a second screen attached, like me):
Windows always appear on the second monitor, no matter what I do.
I've tried disabling all add-ons, but no way: even disabling that monitor, it takes a while to default ok to my main monitor (after a number of Quit/Restart...), but when I reactivate the second monitor, it soon returns to his former bad habits! :-(
[Version 5.0]

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Aargl replied on 27 Aug 2011
The Dev says it's probably a Firefox issue.
I've checked TFF4 and it has quite the same behaviour.
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Aargl had trouble on 26 Jun 2011
Having problems with Youtube's html5 (actually worse than Camino!) while Safari reads them ok.
[Version 5.0]

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Aargl replied on 28 Jul 2011
To be more precise: it stutters constantly.

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THEE:LEE rated on 03 Apr 2013

[Version 17.0.5]



CarlyChandler4323 rated on 18 Mar 2013

[Version 17.0.4]



ElTarlo rated on 12 Jul 2012

[Version 10.0.5]



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Joel rated on 23 Apr 2012

[Version 10.0.4]



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OSX-FTW! rated on 23 Apr 2012

[Version 10.0.4]



macrex18 rated on 13 Mar 2012

[Version 10.0.3]



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OSX-FTW! rated on 13 Mar 2012

[Version 10.0.3]



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Thresher-The-Shark rated on 20 Feb 2012

[Version 10.0.2]



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mam28 rated on 18 Feb 2012

[Version 10.0.2]



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Luminous rated on 12 Feb 2012

[Version 10.0.1]


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TenFourFox comes in different tuned versions for specific PowerPC processor families: If you feel unsure what type of PowerPC processor your Mac has, go to the Apple menu and choose "About this Mac" and check the processor field.

On the G4 Mac open the Terminal app (in Applications -> Utilities) and type the command machine and press return. You can read more in the Wiki entry; WhichVersion.

TenFourFox is a fast, efficient Web browser always based on the current version of Firefox, but unlike the main distribution TenFourFox is compatible with OS X 10.4 and 10.5 running on PowerPC processors.

TenFourFox does support most add-ons

The add-ons it does not support are those that contain native Intel code, or, on Tiger Macs (OS X 10.4), add-ons that contain native code that requires Leopard. You can continue to use add-ons compatible with the same version of Firefox in TenFourFox in most cases.

TenFourFox no longer supports plugins or Flash

As of the previous TenFourFox 6.0, for the following reasons plugin support ships disabled. Sites will now act as if no plugins were installed at all. For details and an in-depth explanation of this policy and other workarounds, see Why aren't plugins supported in TenFourFox?. You can reenable plugins at your own risk. See the section "Reenable plugins" below

Plugins on PowerPC are of special concern because Mozilla is making updates to their plugin architecture which may require the plugins themselves to be updated, and there are certain difficult-to-correct bugs with them already on Tiger. Most importantly, Adobe Flash for PowerPC is no longer maintained and has known security risks that can crash or leak data, some sites requires versions not available on the PowerPC, and QuickTime for Leopard will lose its own support with the release of OS X Lion.

For Internet video, we strongly recommend the use of Perian and any of the available video download add-ons for Firefox.

For YouTube, we recommend MacTubes. If you have a high end G4 or G5, you can also use WebM for selected videos by visiting http://www.youtube.com/html5 and enabling HTML5 video. This will set a temporary cookie enabling browser-based video without Flash.

Reenable plugins

To turn on plugins you do this: 1) go to the address field and type about:config. 2) Press return and click on the "I'll be careful, I promise" button. 3) In the filter input type "tenfourfox". You now see TenFourFox related preferences and can set new values by double clicking each preference. To reenable plugins set "tenfourfox.plugins.enabled" to true and "tenfourfox.layout.hideplugins" to false. If you want the java plugin activated set "tenfourfox.layout.hide_java_plugin" to false. 4) Close the window

Plugin code is an integral part of the codebase, so there will always be plugin code in TenFourFox. There's just no guarantee that it will work and Floodgap does not support issues conerning plugins.

If you have more questions you can read Frequently asked questions about TenFourFox


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