TenFourFox

TFF is still perfectly working, long live PPC! :-)

My FPR15 review will be more of a "best practices with TFF and any Firefox based browser":
• Thanks to TFF's dev, I've learned that those browsers enumerate the available fonts in your system, so minimizing their number will gain a considerable amount of time, especially for slow machines.
• my second point is about extensions: most of you already know it, but keep them as few as possible
• final point: built-in basic adblock of TFF. My little G4 mini was lacking RAM until today, so it was faster filtering heavy pages with uBlock +uMatrix +Decentraleyes (as calculations were made in virtual memory i.e. on disk). Now, with its RAM maxed out, TFF's built-in basic adblock alone is the overall best choice — if you don't mind trackers, etc.
Before applying those advices, TFF ate CPU for 50s at launch before calming down, then nearly the same time for loading very heavy sites: now I've achieved 20s launch time and even the heaviest site takes less than 20s to display ("normal" pages load between 4s and 8s).
I've also applied the fonts advice on my Intel Macs with Waterfox and Firefox. ;-)

The developer announced that an "urgent security [FPR13 SPR1] update" will be coming soon to patch a vulnerability in the Firefox code revealed during Pwn2Own that is closed in releases Firefox 66.0.1 and Firefox ESR 60.6.1

A little review to say that TenFourFox is still actively supported: next FPR13 (should be 45.22, if I'm not mistaking) will be out later this month. Being a "Feature Parity Release", you can expect it to work quite like Firefox, except for some "hard to port" feature. Current news are that there's a new Intel port (versions for MacOS 10.4 to 10.6), not supported by TFF's dev but mentioned in their blog — see one of my comments below.

This version (also called FPR7) is a clear improvement with its "basic adblock" feature, undeniably speeding your browsing! (you have to enable it in the dedicated TFF prefs)
You can use it now without any adblocker, although you still have more precise filtering power with the usual extensions.
For the rest, it's FF45 with latest 52ESR fixes on PPC machines.

Would it be possible to make a Universal Binary version of TenFourFox, so we could also run it on old Intel Macs without having to do emulation? I think it is really great that this project exists. I volunteer for a group that refurbishes donated computers for benevolent causes around the world. TenFourFox allows us to make use of computers that would otherwise end up in landfills. Great Job

Looks like I am the only user of TFF left at MU? :-o Well, TFF FPR6.1 is still working ok. I added Decentraleyes extension, which accelerates a bit the commonly used websites. I unchecked uBlock and uMatrix lists auto-updates (which I suppose were happening at launch). Now, all in all, I'm quite close to the speed I had with v31.8 (with more extensions) and in the end it's quite a miracle to still be able to surf the Internet on a 1st gen Mini G4, 13 years later!

I was forced to update to the last version because my insurance company's website stopped working with v31.8... :-( Now the launch time is 33s (compared to 19s previously...) but once running there's not too much a difference, provided you get rid of as many addons as possible. Actually, I installed only uBlock Origin and uMatrix, which help a lot filtering useless crap: certain complex websites load faster than ever (20s less, for the heaviest ones!) All in all, the Mac Mini can still access nearly all the Internet, except for one site that freezes TFF — I wonder if it's the graphic card that is not fast enough or else...

Ouch! This time TFF put my G4 on its knees! :-o
"Fast and efficient" may be the case if you have a "fast and efficient" computer, say a multicore G5... :-D
It works kinda ok, though, with a clean basic profile with no extensions (21s to start, 29s to load a complex page) but updating my old profile with what I consider a basic set of extensions is way too much for a Mini G4 1.25 GHz with only 512Mb ram! (1'50" to start, 1'20" for the same complex page...)
I was hoping the new features could accelerate it in some way, but no way José.
Back to TFF 31.8. ;-)

Don't believe the absurd bad reviews below! :-D I've tested all recent versions on an iMac G5 2.1 GHz and a Mac Mini G4 1.25 GHz. Be careful to pick the right version for your processor and be aware that also Firefox can mess up an old profile (it happened to me in the past!), especially with some extensions) One word of warning though: Tenfourfox follows Firefox development, meaning that, as any growing software since computers exist, it gets slower across versions. The purpose of TFF is not to give you the fastest browser ever but to let you run a nearly up to date browser on your old machines. As I mentioned in a former review, if you value more speed, stick to version 31.8. I've done some tests on my G4, including html5test.com and speed-battle.com and both show v38.10 as a lot better than v31.8 (v45.7 is yet a bit better but not that much). But when it comes to real life testing, it's another story: v38 takes 6s more to launch, and every site I've tried is slower (from 1 to 10s more, depending on the site's complexity). I haven't done those tests on the latest version but I can believe it would be even slower, hence the only 4 stars I give. So, be sure to test the latest version on a fresh profile on a well maintained computer. ;-) My experience of Roccat has always been terrible — even if I helped translating its menus...) — I only can be thankful to TFF's dev as I can't see any other alternative!

45.6.0 DESTROYED MY POWERBOOK!!! I had some success with the earlier versions of Tenfoxfour but after installing 45.6.0 it was disastrous. After opening the updated browser my computer functions all failed -- I could move the mouse around but as soon as I clicked anywhere the spinning ball of death came on and would not go away. I tried rebooting and now my OS will not load. It gets to the Apple graphic and the load wheel just spins and spins. I've tried zapping the PRAM and starting with the shift key down with no luck. Now I need to dig out all the alternative key combos and try again... No more Tenfoxfour for me.

I've had no luck whatsoever with TFF on my G4 IBook (1.42 mhz. 1.5 gb.ram). It runs slow and and frequently freezes.. I had much better results with the Roccat browser.

Simply the best browser for your PowerPC Mac!

This review is for the latest 38.5 release, not 38.3! MacUpdate, please update your data! A great web browser for PPC users! It can render most modern websites like facebook, can use add-ons/extensions (most, not all) to enhance the web browsing experience, and is more stable than other browsers I've used (Roccat I'm looking at you!). The only 2 problems I have with it are its slow rendering speed and not-quite-100% support for html5 standards. Overall, a solid web browser for the old, yet mighty PPC!

No, this time, this browser has failed. The new update, the 38.5.0, is slower than ever, and when it has been force quit and then restarted, it keeps on trying to open the web page that failed. Still it has features that I cannot live without. I cannot understand how they have made the TFF so slow, like it needs a much faster environment to work in. It seems designed to make the users keen on finally switching from a PPC to an Intel machine. I am disappointed. One more thing: when you install an update of this software, the old version is not overwritten, because the new one has another file name. Why can't they keep the file name for the new versions, so that installing the updates can be made faster?

If you need to use Mac OS 10.4, Safari is clearly outdated and doesn't behave well on many sites. TFF is the only solution. My 83 year old mother uses my old G4 mini 1.25 GHz and recently she couldn't display correctly her bank account and some other site with stock Safari. I customized TFF for her to have a resembling environment and everything is fine. :-) Making thorough tests, I've found that TFF31.8 has a slightly lower footprint on that slow machine's performance (vs current 38.x) so I decided to stay there, for the time being.

Works flawlessly on my iMac G4, OS 10.5. Thank you very much for your work!

I'm using this on an iBook G4, 1 GHz, 512 MB ram, it's a babe! I've run 60 million browsers on this computer and TenFourFox is by far the best. Unlike every other browser, this one like NEVER crashes. I can surf the web perfectly comfortable on this iBook once again, it's just that websites take an extra second or two to load sometimes. Beautiful browser and i hope it lasts a long time.

Hey folks, I hate to say this but... it's over. Your PPC mac is now almost ten years old, MINIMUM. It's time to let go. A PPC is a novelty at best now. Go somewhere they sell them and buy one.

Today, I have just downloaded and installed the new version of TenfourFox, the 31.5. This time, it made me disappointed, because when I installed the German language pack, the TFF-31.x-Sprachpaket-Deutsch, I was disappointed to find that the menus were still displayed in English, just like in the versions of TenfourBird, the e-mail software, in my Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger. This is the first time this software behaves that way., and I feel very disappointed of it.