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LiveCode will help you unleash your killer app. Build apps twice as fast as any other environment with a modern and powerful workflow that saves time at every step. LiveCode is more than just mobile; deploy to 7 popular platforms from one code base. LiveCode has an incredibly rich, deep feature set with more than 2000 features for even the most sophisticated project. From ask password to zoom box, drop shadows to data grids, vector graphics to native scroll bars - LiveCode has it covered.

What LiveCode Does
  • LiveCode gets the job done, from
What's New
Version 6.6.1.4005:

Important Change:

  • Tiger support dropped. As of version 6.6-dp-1, OS 10.4 (Tiger) support has been dropped from LiveCode.
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Requirements
  • Intel/PPC
  • OS X 10.5.8 or later
  • iOS deployment requires membership of the Apple Developer Program





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LuxLogica reviewed on 10 Jun 2013
LiveCode is Open Source, and therefore, FREE for most uses - you can buy a Commercial license for it, if you need to release your software through the Mac App Store, or if you are not allowed to develop under the GPL.

LiveCode is extremely flexible, powerful, and easy to learn. It is being used both by kids learning to program, and scientists working in NASA projects. But one of the best features of LiveCode is its amazingly friendly and supportive COMMUNITY: lively mailing lists and forums, filled with people wanting to provide you help and support, and making the entire learning process a pleasure.

As has been mentioned before, the KickStarter campaign has guaranteed that LiveCode will be evolving quite rapidly in the near future, adding many, many amazing features that will make it even more compelling - see their KickStarter campaign page for details.

Last of all, the much under-promoted 'Server' is an absolutely gem, and an amazing alternative to languages such as PHP or Ruby - the English-like LiveCode language makes your complex web code easier to understand and maintain, even on complex projects (Google some amazing web libraries written by Andre Garzia for real-world examples).

PROS: fun to use, easy to learn, extremely powerful, compile to Mac, Windows, Linux, iOS, Android, and write scripts for the web, all with one language, the future of the platform looks promising, the price (=FREE) cannot be beaten.

CONS: we still have a few months to wait until we get to see all of the amazing features promised during the KickStarter campaign, but at least we know they're coming!
[Version 6.0.0.1511]


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Teksestro reviewed on 10 Jun 2013
LiveCode has been released as OPEN SOURCE, so you can download it and produce full-blown apps for Mac, Win and Linux, without paying a single cent. You can also download the Open Source version of the 'LiveCode Server', which allows you to use LiveCode as a server-side scripting language (like PHP or Ruby).

LiveCode has succeeded in their KickStarter campaign, gathering about $750,000 of funds and becoming the highest-grossing open-source software project in the site. The KickStarter campaign goals include full Cocoa support, an even better database layer, and an open language interface (so programmers can enhance the language as they see pleased).

The program code is already available on GitHub, and several programmers have already made additions and enhancements to the code. The LiveCode community is abuzz with activity, and the future of this platform looks *really* bright.

Oh, and it's still just as easy to learn and use. It's a winner.
[Version 6.0.0.1511]

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Markus Winter replied on 19 Oct 2013
Not quite getting it. Last year you gave it one star, this year five? Just because now it is Open Source? Nothing much has changed in the app, you Cons from last year are all still there so why the change in heart?

Also a lot of people assumed that with the kickstarter campaign and the promise of making it free it would be truly free, that you could use it however you wanted for free - however you still have to pay if you want to develop software for sale. Basically not much has changed except that now you have to make your source code available for others unless you pay for a license.
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Old_guy reviewed on 06 Apr 2013
The lack of native controls is making coding with LC useless.
Not worth one cent
[Version 5.5.3]

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Robert Macupdate replied on 08 Jun 2013
Hi, I'm surprised :: using that platform since its rebirth, i just do not understand how the lack of native controls is making coding with LC useless?? Could you develop? Thanks;

(On a personal point of view : frankly i do not particularly appreciate the "not worth one cent" just thrown in unsupported, but I guess, we as readers all appreciate the quality of this comment!)

But maybe lack of time, so please, precisions welcomed! thanks.
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Scotty_Beam_Me_Up_Again replied on 22 Oct 2013
I too find the absent of native controls a huge problem.
For example if you want your app to look like an iOS app you have to do all the graphics yourself (buttons, tabs, ...). Now with iOS 7 you have to do this twice because all the native buttons etc are different.

That said, Livecode is a good language for simple non-native apps. But for me it just doesn't fits the bill.
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Jamesehale reviewed on 15 Feb 2013
Now attempting to go open source under GPL for all non commercial use.
Quite large stretch goals set if the kickstarter completes.
I have been using LC for personal utilities since before it was Revolution. It only gets better and if made open source the skies the limit.
Ok, so I really like the program and what they are trying to do.
Check it out...
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode
[Version 5.5.3]

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Negritude replied on 20 Apr 2013
The free community edition is now available:

http://runrev.com/products/Open-Source/
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Psychiatry replied on 30 Nov 2013
The free community edition is available at:

http://livecode.com/download/

Negritude's link takes you to the Livecode.com store.
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Markus Winter commented on 29 Oct 2012
I did a LOT in HyperCard, and I bought LiveCode about three years ago to get reacquainted with my "first love" (I had switched to REALbasic when HyperCard was no longer an option). I found the language to be incredibly verbose - basically the equivalent of saying "Would you terrible mind if I had the audacity to suggest a very tiny nip of quite a good cherry?" instead of a simple "Can I get you something?". Especially the grid control was unusable.

So I didn't do much with it until LiveCode was brought back to my attention about a year ago. Unfortunately I had lost my download (external drive died which had the only copy). I wasn't able to download it again from their website (which peeved me off).

I check MacUpdate a few times a week, so when I saw LiveCode today with a high rating I thought I have a look. A year or so ago I had heard rumors about fake ratings by the company (RunRev) so I decided to have a closer look at all those similar sounding "high praise reviews". They have been given by four people who all "joined" within a day of each other, have not downloaded anything from MacUpdate in five months (except the first), and basically sound like the same guy. I have no proof but that sounds a LOT like someone pushing their own agenda.

As for LiveCode: feel free to check it out (I will, and when I have done it might live a review), but take the reviews with a grain of salt.
[Version 5.5.3]

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Robert Macupdate replied on 08 Jun 2013
Hi Markus, first I have no ties with Runrev in Scotland, just a regular user of live code since 8 years. I have my load of angriness as I found limitations in the language, regarding audio functions in particular. And I geared the long transition from run rev Revolution to the present live code. Not always a happy path..

but NOW, BOY :: I think we (you are) all so LUCKY to have such an environment which is so mature by now and pushing forward, that I would try and see the goodies before spitting hard on the thingy!

On the goodies side : this is to my knowledge the only language which runs nicely on the server, and on desktop and mobiles. This server stuff is HANDSOME and replaces very nicely PHP.

Regarding the verbosity :: you can choose to concentrate your scripts and render them unreadable!! if that is your fun cake.. go man! But if you appreciate to be able to just open up a function written 5 years ago and just "read" it naturally... than live code is gold for you.

In fact the trend within the community is to over-document each function and even use dummy parameters to BOOST READABILITY.

And for datagrid :: the documentation is alas a separate beast you have to download. But there are many simple examples, and some clear "LESSONS" on run rev's site, and it now works pretty well, being.. very adaptable.. which for coding has some sense! otherwise, get BENTO!

Finally i' have always found the service at runrev top grade, they have been very helpful and are not the kind of people that will not find a solution for you to re-download something you paid for. They have been 100% straight in their promises since 8 years with me. So do get in touch with contact to download your live code again instead of complaining here, please.

So yeah, I took time to write that on a saturday afternoon because I just do not think it is right to spit so heavily on that beast :: boy we're lucky to get back that power of coding for a much larger number of people, in the spirit of hypercard.

The french livcode community recently joined in and gathered mostly hypercard guys reconverted in revolution and liveCode that all have used the language regularly since decades, to produce some clever practical applications by themselves as experts in their domains. No other language would have allowed that. Hugh!
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slylabs13 reviewed on 04 Jun 2012
This is what Hypercard could have been had it survived. Database API, cli access, native controls for each OS you compile an app for, including Mobile OSes, a web server that accepts embedded Livecode scripting, highly extensible, I could go on and on.
[Version 5.5.0.1477]


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rg4w reviewed on 04 Jun 2012
I've been using LiveCode since v1.0, and it's only gotten better and better with each release.

Having developed apps professionally for 20 years, I've never found another tool that provides as high a return on investment as LiveCode.

Being able to deploy to Mac, Windows, and Linux from a single code base has been a godsend for my clients, and now that we can leverage much of that code to also deploy to iOS and Android the ROI has only gotten higher.

LiveCode is indeed an unusual way of working, with dynamic typing and completely absent of time-wasting compile-runtime cycles. This unusual workflow will often require some unlearning to get used to, but it pays off handsomely in offering equally unusual productivity in development.
[Version 5.5.0.1477]


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dunbarx reviewed on 03 Jun 2012
The platform is indeed evoolving for mobile devices. This is already nearly fully implemented.

But for desktop and web applications, there is not, almost cannot be, a more accessable, powerful and satisfying tool to use. It has its roots in Apple's Hypercard. How many young developers have even heard of this, the father of all xTalk languages?

I hesitate to mention that the language and IDE are fun to use, and there is little penalty to pay for this privilege, since this has always made xTalk seem less than "professional". Nonsense. This ought to be the wave of the future.

Nobody will be disappointed if they spend just a little time "getting" this program. It takes very little time, and only a little effort. The liveCode community is filled with evangelists eager to help at all levels. Try it.
[Version 5.5.0.1477]


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PBH427 reviewed on 02 Jun 2012
While I'm not a 'True Programmer' as such (I'm self taught & only use LiveCode, AppleScript, HTML, PHP and a little JavaScript), I did find LiveCode fairly easy to learn well enough to launch my own desktop app.
It seems some other reviews focus on the negatives, but I found LiveCode to be a great platform for achieving good results very fast. I know I'm not the only one, I've bought some other excellent software from the Apple Store produced mainly in LiveCode.
Focus on the positives and you can achieve a great deal, sure there's room for improvement, but that's true of all software.
I don't understand the comment about not having native controls for desktop apps, I develop on Mac OS Lion and when I test the app it looks native to me, on Snow Leopard it looks native, on Windows it looks like a Windows app, but maybe I'm missing something!
Mobile apps can be made to look native by using a plug-in extension AFAIK, but I don't develop for mobile just yet.
Don't miss out just because some people knock LiveCode, they may have some valid points, but you really should decide for yourself, I did and I certainly don't regret it now, download the demo & take it for a spin.

CONCLUSION: My copy has paid for itself several times over, I would recommend LiveCode to anybody interested in developing their own apps, concentrate on the positives and you could be in profit too.
[Version 5.5.0.1477]


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Teksestro reviewed on 24 Mar 2012
PROS:
* easy-to-learn, English-like programming language
* specially easy for beginners to learn procedural programming
* active user base

CONS:
* interface of IDE is awkward, dated and ugly.
* desktop apps made with the framework do not use native controls, and use instead the same, outdated GUI of the IDE by default. GUI customisation of your apps is possible to a good degree, but very time-consuming and tricky.
* the framework struggles with international characters and text, and support for unicode is terrible.
* no built-in support for vector graphic formats like SVG or PDF
* basic framework features - like 'User Preferences', 'Document' or even proper 'Undo' management, are left for the user to develop on their own
* development of client-based "web apps" requires the client to instal a browser plug-in, which is currently unusably buggy, and whose development seems to have stopped
* server-based (web) apps run into numerous problems due to poor support for unicode and international text
* Pricing is ridiculously expensive - about $800 if you want the complete development package for all platforms - when compared to other, much more polished tools.

CONCLUSION:
A sadly outdated tool, which needs some urgent updating and enhancing in order to justify its price bracket. Until this update comes, it may be wiser to invest your programming money and time in other more modern, feature-full, and cheaper, alternatives.
[Version 5.5.0.1477]


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SpiessensMark rated on 11 Apr 2014

[Version 6.6.1.4005]



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Bleech_Jef rated on 30 Nov 2013

[Version 6.5.0.3009]



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Scotty_Beam_Me_Up_Again rated on 22 Oct 2013

[Version 6.1.2.2016]



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Priosantos-Jan rated on 18 Oct 2013

[Version 6.1.2.2016]



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Ezmac rated on 11 Oct 2012

[Version 5.5.0.1477]



shawnblc rated on 02 Jun 2012

[Version 5.5.0.1477]



icouto rated on 02 Jun 2012

[Version 5.5.0.1477]



Runrev rated on 10 Dec 2010

[Version 4.5.2.1150]


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LiveCode will help you unleash your killer app. Build apps twice as fast as any other environment with a modern and powerful workflow that saves time at every step. LiveCode is more than just mobile; deploy to 7 popular platforms from one code base. LiveCode has an incredibly rich, deep feature set with more than 2000 features for even the most sophisticated project. From ask password to zoom box, drop shadows to data grids, vector graphics to native scroll bars - LiveCode has it covered.

What LiveCode Does
  • LiveCode gets the job done, from simple apps for keeping score at sporting events to real-time flight booking systems for a major airline; millions of people use LiveCode-built solutions every day.
How LiveCode Does It:
  • Easily: The responsive, visual development system starts with drag and drop and lets you craft your program in small chunks. Then use a simple language that is loved by non-programmers and busy professional developers alike. LiveCode means the end of unnecessary jargon: up to 90% fewer symbols, statements and expressions needed to get the job done, when compared with popular alternatives such as JavaScript or Objective C. That's why we say that LiveCode is the only system that is so simple and accessible anyone can learn it.
  • Quickly: The best way to write a quick utility that solves a business problem in minutes or to create prototypes in real-time that deliver a sophisticated user experience. Live coding keeps development agile. Changes happen in front of your eyes meaning you slash debugging and maintenance time using understandable and readable code. On average, LiveCode customers have saved $36,250 per project.
  • Cross-platform: Realize commercial opportunities by supporting today's fastest growing platforms; LiveCode gives you completely royalty free distribution, no ongoing fees, hosting fees or mandatory subscriptions. Write once deploy everywhere: iOS, Android, Windows, Mac, Linux, Web and Server. Access native platform features on all platforms
If you can imagine it you can build it with LiveCode!

Also available, LiveCode Community Edition, free.


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