InstallerApp
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Easily download/install apps to your iPhone.   Shareware ($7.00)
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InstallerApp is a native Mac OS X application that allows you easily download applications from Installer and Cydia directly onto your computer, and install them to the iPhone connected with USB cable. It will install all the needed components even on non-"jailbroken" iPhones with the built-in Pusher technology.
What's New
Version 1.1:
  • Removed support for Installer repositories as they are nolonger supported.
  • InstallerApp no longer performs Push procedure as there are better and age-proven solutions such as PwnageTool and redsn0w.
  • Full support of firmware 3.0.x (if you install InstallerApp Support package using Cydia or Icy on the device).
Requirements
Mac OS X 10.5, Intel-based Mac, an iPhone or iPhone 3G or iPod touch (1st gen)






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rhudhy commented on 21 Jul 2009
After quite promising launch this app is dead. :-(
No single update for 3 months! No support for iPhone 3.0! I've paid for few months of fun? Shame.
[Version 1.0.3]


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Leppe commented on 15 Apr 2009
@INDIEKIDUK: "Nup I think it's just Leppe and Strop on Tiger LOL ;-)"

I'm on Leopard with all my hardware :-).
We have 1 Intel iMac. The rest is PPC hardware which will serve us for another year or 2...

Personal, I know many Intel early adaptors and also PPC users who are still running Tiger with pleasure.
Check for instance the MacRumors Forum! Many Intel users are still on Tiger. Some of them are switchers and are quite happy with 10.4.11.

I also know a architect who is a also friend of the family and he only own PowerMacs Quad G5's and dual procs 2,7Ghz. He also refuses an update to Leopard.
I confinced him once when Leopard came out to try it at least on one machine. He tried it under a condition ;). He wanted the Tiger Dock in Leopard! I even made a small installer which replaced the Leopard Dock in 10.5 into the latest Tiger Dock... (and vice versa)
After a few days/weeks he had a lot of issues with Leopard! For instance Spaces, he did not see the use or positive side of it...
The perception he have/had from Leopard is/was: "Leopard is Tiger with way to many eye candy and to much useless stuff...

And yes, he runs again Tiger on all his hardware! Convinced it is the best OS X release untill now...

Greetz.
[Version 1.0.2]


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Leppe commented on 14 Apr 2009
@STROB:
I agree with your comment.
This app. should be at least Tiger & Leopard compatible!
It's not a big difference to add Intel Tiger support in the project and to compile this when you use Xcode.

- This should be a priority step in a future update for a paid app.!
Intel, Tiger & Leopard.
If you can build this with Xcode, then it's very easy to add Intel Tiger support!

-Second, make it Universal!
Intel/PPC, Tiger & Leopard.
Again, if you can build this. A Universal update should be the next logical step.
It's also easy to do and you can find everywhere developer support for this on the net or at Apple. You will see that a lot of people will help you at developer fora.

"Two smart updates" and "your market share could double".
STROB is totally right on this and it's good and "free" advise you know ;).
Maybe you are one of the many new developers on the Mac with great ideas & dito apps and all this sounds a bit weird? But believe us, for this kind of program you should support at least the Apple's requirements for the iPod Touch & iPhone. Which are for the Mac "Mac OS X v10.4.10 or later" & "PPC/Intel".

Take care & thanks for developing this great program for OS X!
Leppe
[Version 1.0.2]

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indiekiduk replied on 14 Apr 2009
Leopard has many new features that speed up development. Implementing Leopard features in Tiger could be seen as a lot of effort for not much gain! That's what I think anyway, upgrade already!!
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Leppe replied on 14 Apr 2009
@INDIEKIDUK:
Indeed, Leopard has many new features.
This is not about implementing Leopard features in Tiger.
It's simply about running this app in Tiger on Intel Macs.

I can't notice anything about this program and what it assumed to do in Leopard that can not be handled by Tiger 10.4.10 or 10.4.11!
It's like saying that iTunes 8 is a Leopard only app because of all the new things and speedups in Leopard. iTunes 8 on a Tiger Intel Mac is exactly the same as iTunes 8 on a Leopard Intel Mac. That's called "backward compatible" and it's with a good reason too. Apple knows that Tiger is still in the run. It was the first official OS for the Intel Macs. People are still using Tiger for many good reasons (personal reasons or not). PPC Macs as well as Intel Macs.

I'm convinced of the fact that there are no so called Leopard features which are needed to be implomented in a Tiger version (at any cost of effort and gain).
Just like iTunes 8 or any other "backward compatible" app.

If your code is right, well written and when you use Xcode (Apple's SDK) it's just a mather of build settings and project settings. The developer from this program has a big chance, if he developed this great program with xCode, that a Tiger build is virtual at no extra costs and possible with a min. of effort! It could be done in 1 hour or less! Or maybe in a few houres, if you need to learn working with Xcode's settings. It depends on how much experiance you have with Xcode...

That's why "we" ask to upgrade already ;-). That's a Intel Tiger upgrade first! just that we understand each other ;).

Making the program Universal is a different story and will take some more time and effort. But sometimes it's very easy to do (have you ever seen the keynote on how fast developers made their app Universal?). If you have a Apple Developer account you can take a look in the developer section. There are tons of information on how to deal with this Universal issue. Normally this could be solved in a few days or maybe in a few weeks (the program is not that large, 16,4 Mb) if you have some time. The developer could release beta's for PPC users on "Tiger and Leopard" because you can't only depend on launching/testing the program with Rosetta on a Intel Mac. The developer will need real life PPC feedback on this Universal issue ;).

My 2 cents. My thoughts about this 2 issues and with much respect fot what you are thinking!

Greetz.
Leppe
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indiekiduk replied on 14 Apr 2009
The source list is Leopard only. That is the blue list on the left in iTunes/iPhoto/Mail etc.
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STRob replied on 14 Apr 2009
@INDIEKIDUK

You wouldn't be an App$e employee wanting people to upgrade to generate more App$e dollars, would you? Frankly your call for upgrade sounds snobbish .

Leopard is great for App$e and developers in that it forces users to upgrade software at additional expense for no apparent change in benefit. At the same time users loose the valuable software and compatible drivers/hardware that comes with OS 9 (classic).

The fact is that Tiger does me (and others) perfectly well and, despite what you or App$e tells us, I consider Leopard (not to mention Intel crap) a downgrade. BTW at last check there were more still more Tiger users than Leopard out there. So the developer who charges for their labor miss out on a large user base. Frankly, that is not a very smart business model.
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indiekiduk replied on 14 Apr 2009
Nup I think it's just Leppe and Strop on Tiger LOL ;-)
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Leppe replied on 15 Apr 2009
I don't understand what you mean with: "The source list is Leopard only. That is the blue list on the left in iTunes/iPhoto/Mail etc."?
I guess you mean the sidebars? Remember Mail in 10.4. There was back then in iLife '08, like in iLife '09, also a MediaBrowser. iLife '09 is Leopard only. But iLife '08 has a mediabrowser which is virtual the same one as in iLife '09. iTunes8, the program we all use to sync our iPhones & iPods Touch, is Tiger compatible an works fine with the iLife'08 mediabrowser.

When you talked about the "source list" my first thought was that you had the source files :D [LOL].

I've just downloaded this program on a PPC Mac ;-).
-What do I see when I open the programs Package Contents:
/Contents/Frameworks => The only framework is Sparkle (1.5beta(?) build only for Intel). This free "SoftwareUpdate framework" comes with Universal source code. You can download the framework from http://sparkle.andymatuschak.org/ and besides the source code there is also a precompiled "Sparkle.framework" in there. The precompiled Sparkle.Framework is already Universal.
For the Sparkle framework the developer used definitely Xcode and builded a "current hardware" or "Intel only" version from this great framework. So this source code, if you want to compile it yourself, Universal ready. There is also a precompiled Universal Sparkle.framwork into the download folder.

Contens/Recources/FirmwareBundles => This 9 bundles are the same for Intel and PPC.

Contens/Resources => 2 compatible PPC/Intel audio files in aif format. 5 compiled Nib files. As far I know the program which builds nib files (Interface Builder) makes no difference between Intel or PPC. I believe the developer uses Xcode 3.1.2 (latest release), for Leopard only but backward compatible. Just set "Deployment Target" in Interface Builder at 10.4.x and you are good. Now you can make all the nib files you need for this nice "Cocoa" program. You can create the same program window (NSwindow) as before. You can adjust Document Locking if you wish to build the nib files ready for translations in other languages or not, or you can do nothing, etc.
In the rest from the /Contents/Resources folder there are a lot of .png files (for the UI from the program and recogniced the same on Intel & PPC) and one language folder (English) with 5 compiled nib files (MainMenu.nib, etc.) which you can be created with the right Deployment Target (10.4.x instead of 10.5.x). There is virtual no difference between 10.4x Deployment Target and the used 10.5.x Deployment Target. The Menubar is the same, NSwindow is the same, etc. The artwork (.png files) will work just fine with the 10.4.x Deployment Target. So in the end the Look & Feel from the UI will be the same!

So far all the files above, they are Universal ready when followed the instructions. Even the Sparkle framework!
Maybe it's better to pay attention at the files which are needed to be recompiled.

First of all /Contents/MacOS/InstallerApp is Intel only. The developers source code, later compiled into InstallerApp, should be checked if it's possible to compile it in a universal app without changing the source code (which is written by the developer). Go to the MenuBar with the mouse, go to Project, select Edit project settings. In here you can adjust the settings for compiling into a Universal program. For instance: into "General" you need to change the "Base SDK for All Configurations", into Mac OS X 10.4 ;). Then you select "Build" and you start change Architectures into "Standard (32-bit Universal)" or into "32/64-bit Universal". Then you go to "Valid Architectures". Since this program is Intel only the two architectures will be i386 and x86_64 (with a space in between). Now add at least 3 new architectures sepperated with a space: ppc ppc64 ppc970. In the end you will have 5 valid architectures for your program looking like this: "i386 x86_64 ppc ppc64 ppc970".
Now you can close the "Edit Project settings" window where you made the above changes. Via the Menubar, Project, Set active SDK you need to change it into Mac OS X 10.4. Now open the "Edit Project settings" again and select "General" again. Click on "Rebuild Code Sense Index" (big files could take a while...); Now you can close the "Edit Project settings" window again!
Now select in your Xcode sidebar window the target file(here is this of course InstallerApp) and Right click the Target. Select build and try, as a test, to compile/build the source code into a new "InstallerApp" unix file that is Universal. Fingers crossed and hope the file is building correctly without any Faults!


Wow, seems this reply is a bit long :-). Sorry for this :-/
My conclusion is, after seeing the Intel program, that a Universal release or update is realistic. Sparkle is already Universal. The source code from Sparkle builds with Xcode and I think that the "Xcode build settings" where set to "Current Mac OS" and the architecture as "Native Architecture of build machine" (instead of 32/64-bit Universal or 32-bit Universal). Resulting in a Intel only Sparkle Framework... Resulting in a Intel only InstallerApp...
My only conserne is the source code from the Developer. Is the code Universal ready? If so, you can start building and testing ;).
If not, you will have to search on the internet for information and experiances from other developers which had the same issues (which is in fact a reversed Universal program Intel=>PPC instead of PPC=> Intel)...

Greetz.
Leppe
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bruseth reviewed on 10 Apr 2009
I'm on Developer V.3.0 beta 2 firmware on my iPhone. I have 'Icy' installed on my phone, from RIP. When will Installer app be updated for phones like mine (on 3.0)? Just wondering. Great, fun app BTW. Thanks for your hard work.
[Version 1.0.1]


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STRob commented on 28 Mar 2009
Developer:
If this is an application merely to install applications on the iPhone/iPod Touch, why do you require a Mac with an Intel processor and OS 10.5? Surely you miss out on sales to a great many users.
[Version 1.0.1]


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rhudhy reviewed on 27 Mar 2009
New version is much better. I was able to install all that I want from Cydia, especially StatusNotifier and LockCalendar, which are must-have in my opinion. ;-)
[Version 1.0.1]


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Serbian reviewed on 27 Mar 2009
Great little app..Works as advertised...Very easy to setup and work...Thumb up.
[Version 1.0.1]


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appleHQ commented on 27 Mar 2009
Its getting better with 1.01. At least the applications do not get downloaded over and over gain. Once downloaded they will stay in the Application Support folder.

Bu please: All the already installed applications on my iPhone will not be downloaded. I want to have them stored on the Mac for the case I have to reinstall my iPhone without Web access.

Could you please add a generic "Download" or "Archive on Mac" button that only downloads the package, even it is already on the Phone?
[Version 1.0.1]

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carmacoma replied on 27 Mar 2009
Actually it's kinda works that way, I think, at least it worked for me and later I talked to their tech support. So when you get iPhone "pushed" you need to press "synchronize" button in the bottom left corner, and (as I was told) if you have repos in your InstallerApp program, it will check what apps you have on your iPhone and will download them to the computer as well
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rhudhy reviewed on 25 Mar 2009
I must update my opinion. After all, today InstallerApp was able to download and install what it needs to support Cydia. Now my attempts to use it wasn''t that bad. I was able to install and use SwirlyMMS and Clippy, but no luck with some others for now.
[Version 1.0]


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rhudhy commented on 25 Mar 2009
For the current version I've five words: DO NOT PAY FOR THIS!
It looks like real nice app and promises few very tempting features, but reality is different.
I've done clean update to newest firmware (2.2 -> 2.2.1) via iTunes hoping that this allow me to put few Cydia apps without jailbreak. Unfortunately it didn't. Of course 10.5.6 is kinda problem with DFU, but doing little magic helped and Pusher was able to push Installer to not-jailbroken iPhone. So far so good. Next was Cydia support, but InstallerApp attempts to download its very own DPKG support failed. I tried it about dozen times and nothing. Since Cydia apps are only unofficial apps I care, I've got to jailbreak iPhone on my own - using QuickPWN to install Cydia at once.
Now I have jailbroken iPhone with Cydia and - thanks to InstallerApp - Installer also. Despite of this, App still says it must download own DPKG support and fails of course. Also, it can't see few packages I downloaded using Cydia Installer on iPhone. For current version it's nice interface for not-working-as-suppose CRAP. :-(
[Version 1.0]


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Downloads:16,397
Version Downloads:11,366
Type:Utilities : File Management
License:Shareware
Date:09 Aug 2009
Platform:Intel 32 / iOS / OS X
Price: $7.00
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