Name: Thoth
Price: 25.00 $
Rating: 4.3571 (3 reviews)

18 October 2015

I was friends with Brian Clark for 15 years. I was also the initial beta tester for Thoth and for his other Mac application, Ptah. Clark was very intelligent. He had Master’s Degrees in both physics and electrical engineering. Two subjects that the average student could never learn. The last email from him was Dec. 31, 2013. It said: "Goodbye and good luck." That was the last I ever heard of him. He lives now, only in my memories.

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Version 1.9.1.2

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Metalsmith

13 August 2016

Primely et ya'll,

Up front, let me say for openers that I am a registered, licensed curmudgeon. As such, I don't have any reason or need to suffer fools with patience---or anything else. I'm not sure if this man offed himself or simply put his online self to sleep. In either case, the ultimate loss is to the users of the software he created. OK, for whatever reason (personally, I don't need a reason, If i don't like you or what you I feel no reason to waste my time being "polite". Maybe Brian worked on some personal version of reactions to "rude".) Whatever the "true" story might actually be, reality is that he was treated poorly so he retracted his creation, retracted himself, and has given the haters permission to write their own software. Enough is sometimes too much! 'nuff said!

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Well finally Thoth is no more.The final chapter in this story has been written.The app does not respond to my user name which i know like the back of my hand.Since the user name doesn't respond It looks like THOTH has given up the ghost and left town. it was great while it lasted.

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Version 1.9.1.2

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Balanchine

19 August 2015

So whereas the developers of Unison made their final release freeware for everyone, the developer of Thoth has withdrawn it (again) and disabled it even for loyal paid-up users like yourself. Charming. And the download link now redirects to a porn site.

So where next for Mac Usenet readers? Is Hogwasher the only one still in active development (apart from the NZB downloaders)?

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Jazzyguy

24 September 2015

Extemely bad software wrote to the developer and stated"'what's going on here?"because I couldn't log in His reply was nothing.So went to the internet and i forgot my reply and is disaccociated from giganews then the night mare began.I could no longer log in to giganews and I have used this service for 30 years.

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harrywookiee

01 January 2016

I used Thoth for decades. It still works with giganews & supernews on El C 10.11.2

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Well finally Thoth is no more.The final chapter in this story has been written.The app does not respond to my user name which i know like the back of my hand.Since the user name doesn't respond It looks like THOTH has given up the ghost and left town. it was great while it lasted.

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Version 1.9.1.2

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ZachP3614

19 August 2016

I think the internet evolved past newsgroups, so newsreaders became less and less relevant as the years went by. The developers needed to evolve with it..... The money these days (and much more of it too) is in phone apps sadly.

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Sad. I know the feeling full well of trying to charge money for something that people have been basically ripping off from usenet for years. Some people come up with a product that beats the rest however they just don't have the time, money or a room of employees to help them run it. Hopefully the creator will win the lottery or something and maybe put this app back into play. It's definitely better than others of it's type.

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Version 1.9.1.2

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ZachP3614

11 June 2014

Yes - very sad... I've used Thoth for 15 years I think, although don't use as much now. A top notch app, even before there were apps. Maybe Brian should turn his hand to writing iPhone apps?? Should be a few bob there for a gent of his knowledge....

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Dfass

10 December 2013

So how does one actually get a registration, especially, when you cannot purchase one via the website...

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Version 1.9.1.2

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Jazzyguy

10 December 2013

One writes to Brian Clark At Thoth. When one writes he or she will surely get a reply and may register but like I said in my posting he may have given up!

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Balanchine

23 January 2014

He does indeed seem to have given up (again)... "no longer available for downloading or registration". I was a paying customer over a decade ago, then he withdrew Thoth from sale in a fit of temper and stopped updating it. Now he seems to have done the same thing again. Very unprofessional.

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Jazzyguy

23 January 2014

I have to correct you.This developer is now starving because a lack of support for his application which happens to be the best usenet user app available for Usenet in Mavericks. We don't have anything else on Mavericks but Unison The Developer asked for help and no support was forthcoming.So what was he supposed to do? Give it away for free?

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Balanchine

23 January 2014

I'm not sure what support he wants, other than people buying his app. But we can't do that now, or even trial it. The download link just takes you to a "Go away" message. It's abandonware and MacUpdate should make that clear in the listing or delete it altogether. Unison seems to be the best of the rest (apart from the purely NZB-based readers such as NZBVortex). It was sluggish on my old MacBook, but is running well on my new iMac so far.

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Jazzyguy

23 January 2014

Well Balanchine It no longer matters. Thoth is gone for good and the people that criticized him will have to find someone else topic on.It is pretty sad that there are no usenet readers other than Unison but I'm glad I got in before the gates closed.

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Jazzyguy

24 April 2015

Well Balancine I hate to gloat but you see where PanIc's Unison is where it is now? But Thoth is still going strong!!!

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Balanchine

24 April 2015

No update for over 16 months... a dead link to the developer site ("The domain appgarth.com may be for sale by its owner")... It's not looking all that strong.

Shame about Unison. It seems the only Mac newsreaders now in active development are the NZB-based downloaders.

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Jazzyguy

09 December 2013

All of the critics of Brian Clark have forced this great Developer to not further develop his newsreader.So now what do we have on Mavericks? There is no MT-Newsreader,Hogwasher doesn't work.Xnntp is active but it doesn't do pictures too well.Macsoup has one of the worst interfaces I have ever encountered .Only Thoth is very Mac-Like and has a nice interface.Unison is very slow if you have a large number of articles and if you have a commercial news server that has good retention like Giganews it is extremely slow. So there you have it. All the critics and ultra-sensitive users have destroyed a great application.YA-Newswriter was a creation of Brian Clark and there were many Mac users that appreciated his work and even revered him.Just do a Google Search for YA-Newswriter and see all the Mac users who lauded him. The critics that hyper criticized this Developer should be ashamed of themselves!

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Version 1.9.1.2

I now have the latest version of Thoth whiz is 1.9.1.0.I have read all the really rotten comments about this developer and I have to state that EVERYONE has bad days and the posters might have got this Developer in a bad moment. Brian is a very nice guy. I have used his app also as the user preceding me for 10 years and as I stated before it is a very MAC-LIKE news Reader. It has features that no other news rear has.It has a CATALOG for the pictures you gather to save on your hard drive that UNISON doesn't have. With the DEMISE of MTNewsreader on Mavericks (it still works on SnowLeopard and Leopard) This app is the ONLY newsreader for usenet available for Mavericks other than Unison. It is simple to purchase it you just have to write the Brian and ask to purchase it.Since Hogwasher went down this app is the only one for a Mac experience.

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Version 1.9.1.0

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Jazzyguy

07 December 2013

@Freddylan "My review of the author is not the same as my opinion of the software." Because the author in a bad day snapped at you and appeared to you "God-like". Haven't you ever had a bad day? We all have had them and unfortunately we don't always act toward people with courtesy. It is sad to judge our neighbors with one act of theirs. It is only when a repeated behavior problems occur can we make an intelligent decision. Give the guy a little leeway as you would want others to do with you.

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ron-plattverizon-net1969

03 August 2014

What is Brian's contact info, I'd like to purchase a copy.

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Jazzyguy

03 August 2014

Go to the web site.if all fails go to thoth@apgarth.com P

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Using Thoth for more than 10 years, yet one of the best Newsreader for Mac ...

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Version 1.9.1.0

There is no way to pay for this application any more.

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Version 1.9.0.20

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Dschwartz

06 May 2012

And according to the website, he is no longer accepting registration requests.

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Miner

15 November 2013

You can buy licenses again nowadays.

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Jazzyguy

07 December 2013

@Paulimpola Ok so he used MTNewswatcher as a base and also used YA-Newswatcher as a base for Thoth. YA-Newswatcher is extinct. There is no way to resurrect it!MT-Newswatcher no longer works on Mavericks and I personally miss it although I have Thoth,Hogwasher doesn't work on Mavericks either. I have MT-Newswatcher on my 2 iMacs with Snow Leopard and on my PowerBooks with Leopard but I miss it in Mavericks,What you have said is extremely harsh toward this Developer. Maybe I found him on a better day than you but as I said in another post I am sure you have had some bad days yourself where your behavior wasn't acceptable to others. Would you liked to be judged by others on your bad days with unacceptable behavior? Maybe your opinion may change based on the above. I hope so.

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Jazzyguy

07 December 2013

@Paulimpols That depends on how many item you have cofigured in your Newsgroups in Unison.I think if it takes you 8 seconds to load in Unison,you must have a miniscule number of items configured. That is why so many users are complaining about Unison because they have a lot of items configured.I myself using Giganews and their outstanding rentention have as many items as I can materially put together. Now the other users must have Commercial News Servers with good retention and they are complaining. Now Thoth with a lot of NewsGroups and a lot of items . It is very speedy. 5 seconds with Thoth with a large number of items. What about the rest of my posting to you? Don't you think you were somewhat harsh with Brian considering he might have had a bad day?

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Frieddylan

06 December 2011

Ya know I had used Thoth for a while, not to pirate but to actually take place in conversations and share ideas. It can happen. But then one day I got a taste of the author's bad attitude and god complex. Really I paid for the application and asked for a ground level of support, nothing lofty- and he snapped at me. You know what, I don't need that from anyone. And so today I find myself fondly remember the application for what it was and still might be, a solid and good newsgroup client. But beyond that I refuse to try it again as long as the original author is tied to it. I'll take my money somewhere else where customer service is as important as the quality of code. My review of the author is not the same as my opinion of the software.

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Version 1.9.0.19

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Paulimpola

29 April 2012

Agreed, wholeheartedly. What many do not realize is that Thoth was built on many preceding FREE apps in the NewsWatcher "family" -- MT-NewsWatcher, YA-NewsWatcher et al. The arrogant jerk who "owns" it did little more than port it from OS 9 to OS X. I also was a paid user back when it was the only stable choice for OS X. I am now a happy Unison user, and would not ever consider giving another penny to the schmuck responsible for Thoth.

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Jazzyguy

07 December 2013

@Paulinopolis You say you are a "happy Unison user." How can you be happy with Unison as it takes a long time for the groups to load? Extremely long! Take a look at the Unison web site on MU and see how many users are complaining about the slow loading of Newsgroups. Thoth is very fast in loading NewsGroups,Very Fast!

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Paulimpola

07 December 2013

@Jazzyguy It takes Unison about 2 seconds to load Newsgroups on my fairly ancient (early 2008) MacBook Pro. I suspect folks who find it slow should blame their ISP.

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Jazzyguy

08 December 2013

@Paulimpois Maybe the reason YA-Newswatcher resembles Thoth so much is because Brian Clark was instrumental in developing YA-Newswatcher and that it looks like Thoth

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Jazzyguy

25 December 2014

The usenet servers are limited in Yosemite and in Mavericks. Where are you going to go?

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Jazzyguy

25 December 2014

The usenet servers are limited in Yosemite and in Mavericks. Where are you going to go?

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Jazzyguy

24 April 2015

@Paulimpolia You see where Unison is now? Thoth is going strong!It is a shame that Panic pulled Unison off the shelf. It is really abandonware.As my copy can't even pull my isp and d/l anything.

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