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Graphviz	Mar 16 2010	EVILSKULL It's not a non-issue. There are 40mb of binaries (in /bin!) and libraries (in /lib!) in here before we even get to the 1.1mb graphviz application. That's a lot of "stuff" that's just being dropped into your system at an extremely low level without even an uninstallation script to clean it up. (Version 2.26.3)		0
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Iceberg	Mar 16 2010	EVILSKULL What is the use of the start up items that this installs? There are three of them (IcebergBuilder, IcebergControlTower, and IcebergControlTowerTool) and a plist for them. Additionally, why does this installer write data to /usr (/usr/local/bin/freeze and /usr/local/bin/goldin)? And why is there no mention that this installer will litter my drive with data beyond what an application uninstaller could find? (Version 1.2.9)		0
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Iceberg

Mar 16 2010

PACKAGESDEV > What is the use of the start up items that this installs? There are three of them (IcebergBuilder, IcebergControlTower, and IcebergControlTowerTool) and a plist for them.

These components are used to build the packages.

> Additionally, why does this installer write data to /usr (/usr/local/bin/freeze and /usr/local/bin/goldin)?

These are command line tools. Check the documentation chapter "Frequently Asked Questions" to get more information about the freeze command line utility. goldin is a command line tool used to split forks.

> And why is there no mention that this installer will litter my drive with data beyond what an application uninstaller could find?

Check the documentation chapter "Installing Iceberg", installation blueprints are provided explaining what is installed where. Additionally, an uninstall script is provided.
(Version 1.2.9)

Graphviz	Jan 26 2010	EVILSKULL An installer package is basically a big unknown, outside of using a 3rd party program like Pacifist to see what's in it. I much prefer the .dmg/drag application to install approach, because at least then I probably know where everything I need to delete if I don't use the software is. (Version 2.26.3)		0
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DataLore	Oct 4 2009	EVILSKULL I would love to test this out, but I tend not to use any basic apps that requires an installer .pkg; if you're not installing frameworks, kernel modules, or support files, I don't see the point in distributing the software as a .pkg. (Version 0.99B)		0
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DataLore

Oct 4 2009

XTRALEAN Hi Evil Skull,

We decided to use the package installer to make installing the product more convenient and easier. The pkg installer will automatically quit DataLore and the menu bar app (for example if you are updating the product) and copy the DataLore application to the Applications folder. Quick and easy and there is no need to eject the dmg.

For the final release we'll provide an alternate download for people that like to do this type of stuff manually by hand.

Regards,

Hagen Kaye
(Version 0.99B)

DataLore

Nov 6 2009

RUBAIYAT Yes please do not use the package method, it can be confusing to less experienced users.

As an admin with several computers to maintain I prefer to DL once and hold for reinstallation across the network. For this I am glad, for once, that you have both the application and version number clearly in the name.
(Version 1.02)

Submarine	Oct 2 2009	EVILSKULL Doesn't the product description pretty much come right out and sugest that you use Sparkle instead? (Version 2.2)		0
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CandyBar	Sep 11 2009	EVILSKULL This criticism isn't even in english. You're asking for quite literally the sun, the moon, and everything inbetween. Your requests are remarkably unreasonably, and while the guys at Panic are too classy to get up in your face about it, you're being a jerk. Stop being a jerk. (Version 3.2.1)		0
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