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MacVim
Apr 28 2008
*****

CHIGGSY  Well, exactly what I want are thousands of text specific features. This is _the_ editor, unless you run emacs, and of course all those people, having internalized the concept of "false gods" have cheerily begun running textmate instead.

Enough about that. MacVim is an excellent version of gvim, easily the lushest and sexiest one i've ever seen. Vim on os X used to be like firefox, a thing from another place, a foul, alien and misshapen

troll lurking under the bridge named /Applications.

No longer. MacVim is gvim for os X, what an os X program should be like, combined with every optimization that code editing needs and thousands more that are "nice".

Vim has a steep learning curve, like all things Unix. Of course, people program are not stupid, people who program on unix platforms are unafraid of complexity, or at least _were_ not stupid, and _were_ unafraid of complexity. If you are are fearful, why , pay fear's price and fire up some 100 meg IDE and have it hold your hand and change your diapers. If you for some reason, need to have less features because due to some unseen yet crippling inability to teach your muscles to do something, which is a vim requirement, then by golly use something with an "easier learning curve". It's ok. I'm sure your $DEITY will still love you.

Not mine though. We have higher standards, and things to get done, and that's why we'll be using MacVim.

  
(Version 26)

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MacVim
May 12 2008

PJM  Hmm, lets not get too carried away with the "everything a Mac app should be" sort of claim. Pull a random task from the sky, something everyone would likely wish to change about Vim's default. Let's say: "change the default font". Everyone knows how to do that: you dial up the preferences for the application, find where the font description lives, change as desired, and away you go. Don't you? Oh... Well, aah, not exactly...

In fact with Vim you really need to learn about initialization files, about how to write a prescription using Vim's style of parameters (is the font option one with an equals sign in it or not?), how to prescribe a given font on a mac in a way that vim understands, etc etc. All of which is achievable, but it's far from being what a Mac user would expect.

Don't get me wrong: I love vim, and use it quite a lot (more from the command line than via MacVim). But I also use TextMate all the time, and there are really good reasons for doing so: it just integrates into Mac OS X a whole heap better than MacVim. Writing your own commands, throwing hooks into the operating system, and so forth is utterly straightforward for anyone with some scripting experience (perl/ruby/python... etc, take your pick).

Paul  
(Version 27)

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MacVim
Jun 9 2008

PETER DA SILVA  It's still not really vi.

When Apple replaced good solid vi with vim in OS X the first thing I did was compile nvi and completely remove that abomination known as "vim".  
(Version 30)

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MacVim
Apr 28 2008

CHIGGSY  Right, why would you spend so much time bashing an editor when there are so many available, in your own words? If you like TextMate, use it! Of course, if you used vim before, and wanted to give a nice version of gvim a try, then use this one by all means, it's the best version of gvim that there is.   
(Version 26)

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