ALBABE  With this patch, MS Word seems to start up a bit faster... open under File>Open Recent much faster... and Save considerably faster...

So far so good.  
(Version 12.2.3)

ALBABE  Just a Heads-Up here.

This is in regards to Leopard Cache Cleaner, not Snow Leopard Cache.

I've found that if I start this application and then do a Command H to hide the application while I work on something else... this ap stalls. It looks like it's working - the little sideways Barber Pole does what it does, but the ap just sits there... for hours.

I've tried this in 10.4.11 and 10.5.8 and the same thing happens.  
(Version 5.0.2)

ALBABE  I'd love to use this client... then I read your post.

It would be GREAT if the client allowed you to pick and choose which caches you'd like to delete.

This seems to still work fine.

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/27067/idelete-qt-and-flash-caches  
(Version 1.4)

ALBABE  I'm having trouble staying connected for even a few minutes tonight... It might be a coincidence and maybe Yahoo is having trouble with their servers.  
(Version 3.0b191946)

ALBABE  I'm one of the poor folks who can't afford to update to an Intel yet (75% of all Mac Users). I bought the last generation of G5s 2 months before Apple stopped making PPC Processors. My friend that works at Apple obviously wasn't thinking when he convinced me that "Now was the time."

I work as a Writer and Artist in Comic Books and use my computer all day.

My computer is 3.5 years old and because of my Processor, I was only allowed one OS Upgrade from 10.4 (which came with my Computer) to 10.5.

With the last update, 10.5.7, I get beachballs when moving jpg files that result in a Finder Crash 3 to 5 times a day. I very rarely had Finder Crashes before.

My question is... Am I screwed?

Maybe I'm wrong, but I assume Apple will not be upgrading 10.5 again. Has Apple ever upgraded the previous OS once the next big thing is released?  
(Version 10.6)

ALBABE  Hi MISHA:

Thanx a bunch for the comment.

Like I said above. I've never used Glims. Not sure what it is. I do, however, use WindowShade/Ape.

When I've had problems like this in the past, I've installed WebKit and sometimes that helped... of course sometimes that just added other problems.  
(Version 4.0.3)

ALBABE  I think it's very odd that if someone (me) writes a negative Review, then that Review gets a Minus "Smilie"? Very weird. Some mindless Safari Fan?

As of this writing, Safari has gotten significant;y worse for me. The only thing I have on my computer that is an Add-On is WindowShade/Ape. I guess that might be the problem.

Now I am constantly infected by Stalls... Beachballs constantly... Won't quit... Must be Force Quit.  
(Version 4.0.3)

ALBABE  I've never used Glims... not even sure what it is.

I do use Windowshade... That may be the problem.

Now I'm having Beach Balls constantly when trying to download large files... makes my job a real pain. THis version is not working for me... I may go back to WebKit if they've fixed these problems.  
(Version 4.0.3)

ALBABE  Spoke too soon... Same old same old.  
(Version 4.0.3)

ALBABE  I D/Led Safari 4.0.3 this morning... and as I usually do with any new client/version, I ran Disk Utility, Repaired Permissions.

Safari has crashed about 12 times today. And when I try to restart Safari after a crash, it starts and just sits there and won't go to any sites. And it won't work at all without Rebooting my G5.

Pain in my friggin' tuchus.  
(Version 4.0.3)

ALBABE  For the first time in a few updates, Safari didn't "update" my Preferences to "Accept All Cookies"

It also looks like Apple may have finally fixed the problem of having to "Refresh" pages of Sites that I belong to, to get Safari to "Remember" that I was already signed-in. (Which I assume is a "Cookies" problem too). Safari would almost always ask me to sign-in to groups and such, when I accessed a group's site... but if I "Refreshed" the page, then it found the ID Cookie and "Remembered" that I was already signed-in... seems everything is groovy now (knock on wood).  
(Version 4.0.3)

ALBABE  So, does Apple have some sort of Corporate deal with the World Cookies Association?

As is usual with Safari (at least in my experience), this update, like many of the last, CHANGES YOUR COOKIES SETTING TO: ACCEPT ALL COOKIES.

If you are concerned about such things, you might wanna check your Preferences.  
(Version 4.0.2)

ALBABE  FYI:

It seems there is a fix for GB and G5s. You need to connect the two Optical Audio ports together with the requisite Toslink cable- the In to the Out.

http://www.kenstone.net/discussions/read.php?3,7338,7362

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9734914&#9734914

It worked for me.  
(Version 5.1)

ALBABE  EXORZIST:

Thanx for the input... I'm curious if my Safari doesn't do something that everyone else's does?

Re: "...website loading state is very well reflected by the new, non-obstructive "thingy..."

My little rotating "thingie" is either on, grayed out, or off. It doesn't seem to represent any sort of "loading state" at all... except "Loading," "Finished Loading." Am I missing something?  
(Version 4.0.2)

ALBABE  I'm still having weird problems with Safari.

It's fast and mostly a pretty good... but...

It doesn't always remember a cookie used for membership in a group (like Yahoo)... until I refresh the page.

YouTube is acting weird lately, also. After I'm on it for a while, I get an almost blank window with an error message that says something about a "String" or something... and I can't go to any YT pages after that, until I restart Safari.

And I miss the Progress Bar... anyone have a haxie to bring it back?  
(Version 4.0.2)

ALBABE  New version 3.0 beta 4 (178870) is available as of 6-5-09  
(Version 3.0b4.156957)

ALBABE  I have had similar problems... Mine are more like tiny empty spaces in the track.

They seem to come and go, and are generally fixed with a reboot.  
(Version 8.2)

ALBABE  Garageband 5. doesn't seem to work on a lot of people's G5s (Certainly not my 3 year old G5) even with 10.5.7.

It's so slow it's completely impossible to use... and almost impossible to uninstall.

If you are on a G5 and having problems, google "Uninstall Garageband" and reinstall the last version (4.1.2)  
(Version 5.0.2)

ALBABE  Thanx RUN HOME SLOW.

I appreciate the feedback. The only haxie I use is Windowshade... so I have no idea what is happening on my Dual 2 GHz PowerPC G5 / 2.5 GB Ram.

I've been using WebKit lately and I have to start up up 3 or 4 times because it stalls with Beachball.  
(Version 10.5.7)

ALBABE  I just had exactly the same problem... so I D/Led it from here. Then I checked the Flip4Mac in the System Prefs an it was updated to the new one.  
(Version 2.2.2.3)

ALBABE  CHARLES_BT:

Wow, 8 Frownie Faces. In all the years I've relied on MacUpdate to be "Fair & Balanced," I've never seen a Client (Transmission) that is Policed so diligently and dutifully by it's followers.

MacUpdate is supposed to be a place where Users can honestly share their experience about a Client. From my experience in the Tranny Forums, they (and likely you too) think that anyone who disagrees with them is a flamer. I'm not. I'm an honest User of Transmission.

"You keep throwing out this accusation, so once again I'll deny it. Neither developer posts reviews here."

A lot of the "glowing" reviews here are abstract hyperbole... much like radio ads. They seem either paid for political advertisements or Transmission's dutiful sycophants trying to balance the other comments in here.

That does beg the question, "Who are you?" Besides someone who admits they have 3 (three) handles in here. Why not one?

You say in here, " Neither developer posts reviews here..." and then on the reviews for uTorrent (Dec 4, '08) you said, "I am one of Transmission's developers..." I'm confused.

"The changes in 1.60 include over 40 suggestions made by many users. If you don't believe me, go look at the "complete list of tickets" linked to at transmissionbt.com."

As I said, the Forums were mostly very sycophantic and rude, so I don't check them any more. One of the Developers was quite the jerk to me when I asked what I thought was legitimate questions. I'm not a masochist. But what's your point?

I've already explained that I use Transmission almost exclusively. That doesn't have anything to do with the defensive nastiness that I received when I was part of their forums. A lot of the posters in there were much like Hugh's response to a comment I posted here (below).  
(Version 1.6b1)

ALBABE  I have this problem with Transmission... Most of the positive "reviews" here sound like ads on old AM Radio. I don't believe they're "users..." more likely the Developers and their sycophants.

I also have a problem with the developer. When I used to update this client every time a new version was available, I would use their forums and give them what I thought was constructive information/feedback. I'm not a Programmer and I certainly don't understand a lot of the tech stuff but I always thought I was being polite.

I got the impression that they didn't much like any criticism at all, as everything I posted was maligned and I was insulted and called all sorts of names for using the wrong terms.

For the most part, I love my .082 (3009), but whenever I updated all sorts of new problems developed.

I am curious if the user can Update Tracker when he/she feels like. The last new version I tried didn't allow this. I don't remember if it was no longer in the PullDown Menu or if the Client just wouldn't do it anymore.

I'd love to use a newer version, but every time I tried, I had problems.  
(Version 1.6b1)

ALBABE  I'll wait on these till they're officially released.

As for 3.0.10... It is an insane CPU hog. It just sits there and eats the CPU when nothing is going on.   
(Version 3.5b4)

ALBABE  Wasn't this just released a week ago? What's the deal?  
(Version 4.3)

ALBABE  After using it for a few hours, it seems much better than the last version.

(This isn't saying an awful lot, in that the last version was a serious hog and did video very badly).  
(Version 3.0.9)

ALBABE  FF has been amazingly awful lately. It stalls as much as the Safari Beta and doesn't do video very well.

I'll check this and the beta to see if either is any good.  
(Version 3.0.9)

ALBABE  "...the fan boi's already knew that."

Huh? Are you, like, a really super, like, famous Client Review Writer? Or just so full of yourself you need a constant roughage IV? Either way, can I have your autograph? (I'm a huge Megalomania fan).  
(Version 4.3b1)

ALBABE  12.1.7 seems to be available though my MS Word Auto Update.

Strangely (I guess nothing is really strange for MS), the link to the info page within the Auto Update goes to an "error" page... figures.  
(Version 12.1.5)

ALBABE  I have certain problems with this client... but I haven't really used any others to compare.

I use it on a regular basis, but sometimes it seems insanely slow. I started it up to:

Repair Permissions

Run Maintenance scripts

Clean System Log Archives.

On a 300 GB HD after Four hours it was still hanging in the last 2% of the Permissions mode. I quit it and started it again. Same thing.

I ran the Apple Disc Utility for Permissions, which took around ten minutes... and then I tried LCC again. This time it took less than an hour and finally finished.

MacGurl is right about the password. It takes quite a while after you type it in.

I also tried to use the ClamAV Antivirus on my 300 GB drive and after 12 hours it still wasn't finished. I tried it again the next evening... same outcome.

I don't find the Developer very accessible. He very rarely returns any emails to answer questions. I thought I had a good suggestion for him to have an Update mode in a pulldown... no answer.  
(Version 4.0.22)

ALBABE  More of the developers who have completely abandoned the vast majority of teh Apple market.

It's a real drag that there are so many clients that are only available for the Intel chip. I read somewhere a year ago that Intel Mac were barely 15% of the Apples being used regularly... so why would a client LimeWire just produce for that market. Seems oddly elitist to me.   
(Version 5.1.2)

ALBABE  Great comments on this thread. Most are very thoughtful and not defensive.

My problem is that I am a professional who writes and draws in the Comic Book field and the numbers and profits in Comic Books are way down. I'd love to, but I can't afford over 3,000 clams for a new computer every 3 years.

It seems to me that Apple, in it's superior technology and greed, has priced itself out of the market by pandering to the upper Middle Class who usually aren't the Artists or Writers or Musicians who don't have that much discretionary cash.

So... Thanx so much to the VLC folks who obviously haven't abandoned us PPC guys the way Apple has.  
(Version 0.9.9a)

ALBABE  LADIRECTION:

No offense meant, but the numbers I was quoted were from 2 OS X Engineers at Apple, a relative that works for Intel, and a couple of guys running a Genius Bar in SF. Nobody who's professional had disputed them.

I'm glad you feel cocky enough to purport the numbers at Macbidouille, but I got my numbers from the guys inside.

And thanx to NED SCOTT for a cogent comment.  
(Version 0.9.9a)

ALBABE  Thanx much to NEONBLUE2. I appreciate the very thoughtful information (even though I only just barely understand it).

As for the people who express the fact that VLC is "Freeware..." and that the rest of us can...

VLC has always been a great client... No question. it kicks everything else's azz.

My problem is that the vast majority of Working Macs are NOT Intel, yet we are being edged out.

I have the last generation of G5 (Dual 2 GB). I bought it brand new from Apple. It's just 3 years old... and as far as I know, this will be the first time in Mac History that when you buy a Brand new Top Of The Line Apple, that you will only be able to USE one (1) OS upgrade.

My G5 came with 10.4. I bought 10.5... and from everything i understand, 10.6 will not run on a PPC. That's ethically irresponsible and unconscionable business practice on the part of Apple.

Anyone who is paying attention over the last years knows that Apple is a Hardware company... but now it seems they don't give a rats azz for the majority of Users... and would rather try to strong-arm us out of the loop, and into having to buy a New Mac to stay current.

As for VLC... hopefully the comment that there will be a version that works on a PPC is correct.

Thanx.  
(Version 0.9.9)

ALBABE  It's a real drag that there are so many clients that are only available for the Intel chip. I read somewhere a year ago that Intel Mac were barely 15% of the Apples being used regularly... so why would a great client like VLC just produce for that market. Seems oddly elitist to me.  
(Version 0.9.9)

ALBABE  I'm curious how this is different from the EXCELLENT" "Safari-4-Buddy" that's already available?  
(Version 0.2.2)

ALBABE  Three (3) versions in a week?

Do any of these versions work in Leopard on a PPC?  
(Version 5.1.2)

ALBABE  The newest version of WebKit fixes this again!  
(Version 4 Public Beta)

ALBABE  The newest WebKit is now doing this:

The newest Safari seems to save jpegs differently than the last version. If you control>click on the image and save it to a folder or the desktop, it seems relatively normal, saving it as a .jpg...

20090223mmjm2000px_MikeSalway.jpg

But if you just grab the image and drag it from the Safari window to a folder or the desktop, it saves it with two suffixes. .jpg followed by .jpeg... without the "-1" that used to be added to duplicate files, it's hard to tell if you have multiples.

20090223mmjm2000px_MikeSalway.jpg.jpeg

Any ideas you guys?   
(Version 4 Public Beta)

ALBABE  Search this in MacUpdate! Works GREAT!!!

Safari 4 Buddy 1.0

Safari 4 Buddy is a Mac OS X Utility that enables the ability to change several hidden preferences in the Safari 4 Public Beta web browser, such as: moving the Tab Bar, reverting the Progress Style indicator, disabling Google Suggest and Top Sites and more.  
(Version 4 Public Beta)

ALBABE  Is the Progress Bar when the URL Location/Address bar shows it's progress by growing bluer as the page loads? if it is, I couldn't figure out how to get that back... my bad.  
(Version 1.0)

ALBABE  NEONBLUE2:

It seems the newest WebKit works fine. It doesn't name the suffix .jpg.jpeg. Hopefully, Safari will get it incorporated soon.  
(Version 4 Public Beta)

ALBABE  unRar opened .rar files that Stuffit kept reporting errors on.

The "Password" box took me a few seconds to find. Be aware.

Great Ap!  
(Version 2.2)

ALBABE  The newest Safari seems to save jpegs differently than the last version. If you control>click on the image and save it to a folder or the desktop, it seems relatively normal, saving it as a .jpg...

20090223mmjm2000px_MikeSalway.jpg

But if you just grab the image and drag it from the Safari window to a folder or the desktop, it saves it with two suffixes. .jpg followed by .jpeg... without the "-1" that used to be added to duplicate files, it's hard to tell if you have multiples.

20090223mmjm2000px_MikeSalway.jpg.jpeg

Any ideas you guys?  
(Version 4.0b1)

ALBABE  I'm suspicious of the "Really Glowing" reviews of Transmission here. My interaction with them in the past has shown me that the programmers are very very defensive about their client. They don't like it when someone criticizes and they get very "personal."

So, with that in mind... Some of these "reviews" sound like ads to me.

With that in mind, I still use Transmission. However I use an older version that works better for me.  
(Version 1.50)

ALBABE  I found the Eddy Timer 1.2 here in MacUpdate... It works much better than this.  
(Version 3.0)

ALBABE  So, the last version wasn't to be used on 10.5.6? So... did I mess something up by using it???  
(Version 4.0.20)

ALBABE  I've had some of the same problems listed since this upgrade... I used Leopard Cache Cleaner and did Permissions, Maintenance Scripts, Prebindings and System Archives... Then ran the Disc Utility... Seems to be working okay now.  
(Version 7.6)

ALBABE  Works fine... But it takes forever to start up.

Does anyone know of a better Timer.  
(Version 3.0)

ALBABE  I have had lots of small problems with WindowShade... but nothing too terrible.

My biggest problem is their newfound non-involvement with their own client and it's subscribers. I've written them twice in the last two weeks with no response at all from them.  
(Version 4.2)

ALBABE  I have had lots of problems with Safari since 10.5.6... but this version and the last are the worst. Lots of beachballs, freezing, stalling, quitting... a real loss of work time and a real pain.

The only haxie I run is WindowShade, which, granted, might be the root of my problems... and, Unsanity doesn't answer emails any more. I written them twice (nicely) in the last two weeks.

I picked up the latest WebKit and it works much better.  
(Version 3.2.1)

ALBABE  I take my previous comment back. I ran Leopard Cache Cleaner... and bingo... same old, same old. beachballs, stalling...

Probably my APE/Windowshade.  
(Version 10.5.6)

ALBABE  For the first time this year, Safari starts up... and WORKS!!! I rebooted after installing 10.5.6 and when I started Safari... bingo... it worked immediately. For quite some time now, whenever I would start Safari, it would stall and I would get more that a minute of beachball and then very slow performance after that.

I have always assumed my Safari problems were because I use APE and WindowShade... but everything seems to work just fine now.  
(Version 10.5.6)

ALBABE  It seems that Safari seems to get worse and worse with each update.

When 10.5.5 was released, Safari seemed to work a bit better than in 10.5.4... now over the course of just a short time, Safari is getting significantly crappier.

I get beachballs every time I start up... slow performance and more beachballs... Stalling... and crashing...

I run Leopard Cache Cleaner... Disk Warrier and Tech Tool Pro once a week or so... and it helps a little for a day or two...

iDelete QT and Flash Caches 1.4 seems to help a little, but Safari has become a joke.

  
(Version 3.1.2)

ALBABE  Worst version ever... and that's a lot considering how crappy MS usually is.

It's incredibly slow STARTING UP... very slow OPENING a new page... and RIDICULOUSLY slow SAVING a document.

My old Word worked perfectly well and fast... and like an idiot I let the new version overwrite the old version... now I have to uninstall this and reinstall 2004.  
(Version 12.1.2)

ALBABE  BUMBLEB:

And it allows Apple to monitor what tunes or boots or whatever, you have in iTunes... scary...  
(Version 8.0)

ALBABE  It seems that Unsanity has completely abandoned all of it's loyal users.

As for PROFINITE's comments... I'm not sure what he/she means... Unsanity posted that comment on Feb 24, 2008, 6 months ago... and they haven't posted anything since... except a new Ape that seems to mess up Windowshade. As this poster says, these are all BETAS... I think it's unconscionable business practices to leave their users with only betas rather than fully functioning apps. 7 months is too long a wait.

I have problems with a few clients: Windowshade or APE seems to affect Preview... every time Preview crashes it asks to report to Apple and Unsanity... I assume this means Unsanity is the problem.  
(Version 4.2b1)

ALBABE  I wouldn't worry... I've had occasional problems with LCC... but it's always been a good app for me.  
(Version 4.0.15)

ALBABE  May I be the first to congratulate the designer on this one!!!

LCC now has a Progress Bar rather than the old Barber Poll... Great!!!

Thanx!!!  
(Version 4.0.13)

ALBABE  Something is very different or possibly "wrong" with 10.4.5 or LCC... or both.

TCC used to perform, Repair Permissions, Run Maintenance Scripts and Clean System Log Archives in about 20 minutes on my Dual 2 GHz PPC G5...

LCC takes 3 hours to perform the exact same tasks on the same computer.  
(Version 4.0.12)

ALBABE  Much worse than the last version.

I get constant BeachBalls, complete stalls, and crashes all day long...

I'm using APE/Windowshade... maybe that's the trouble... but no other version of Safari has worked this bad on my machine.

10.5 in general has been slower and more rife with problems than 10.4.

Any ideas you guys?

Dual 2 GHz PPC G5  
(Version 3.1.2)

ALBABE  I agree with TIM27 ... Almost everything on 10.5.4 is slower than on 10.5.3... and 10.5.3 is so much slower than 10.4.11.

I get Beachballs and a frozen desktop constantly... Safari and Word and Yahoo IM crash or freeze more than just a few times a day.

Dictionary is ridiculously slow... and it persistently gives me it's silly Intro/ad page for a few seconds every time it starts up.

I figured all my problems were stemming from using APE/WindowShade (which I blame on Apple for having in OS 9 and then dropping from OS X), but from a lot of the reviews I've read on the net, it seems a lot of people are having similar problems.

It's also very annoying to me that you can't lose the sidebar in 10.5, and still keep the very useful buttons at the top of the window (Path etc.) The 1.5 inch sidebar loses lots of real estate on a desktop.

Dual 2 GHz PPC G5  
(Version 10.5.4)

ALBABE  I've been using this with 10.4.11 for a while... no probs... a little slow, which is usually cured by a restart. (I have been told it's because of the logging all the chats).

I installed 10.5.3... The ap is so slow now... after a few minutes in a chat room, the letters type in interminably slow... one... at... a ... time...  
(Version 3.0b3.98855)

ALBABE  I've always loved this client... but...

I installed Leopard 10.5.3 last night... for some reason when I start up LCC it doesn't show up in the dock... and when I start it up, it just runs endlessly for hours just to do "Repair Permissions," "Run Maintenance Scripts" and "Clean System Log Archives." It never finishes.

I also noticed in 10.4.11 that it behaved the same way if you did "Command H" to hide the app, it just ran forever too.  
(Version 4.0.10)

ALBABE  The nice folks over at iSquint have a Temporary Fix to the videos that were transcoded last year before the newest QuickTime decided not to play them!

Just change the suffix from .mp4 to to .3gp and they play fine.

I have no idea of the ramifications of this, but at least these vids will play in QuickTime again!

isquint . org/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=15;t=5447  
(Version 1.5.1)

ALBABE  I think Comical is BETTER than ComicBookLover.

It doesn't have all the bells and whistles that ComicBookLover has, but it's FREE and works great.

FYI: The .cbr and .cbz files are just .rar (cbR) and .zip (cbZ) files that anyone can easily read by decompressing them into .jpg.

More info here:

http://www.sketchyorigins.com/comics/showthread.php?t=424

http://btfaq.com/serve/cache/45.html  
(Version 0.8)

ALBABE  Too costly for what it is.

Comical is BETTER!!!

http://comical.sourceforge.net/

It doesn't have all the bells and whistles that ComicBookLover has, but it's FREE and works great for me!!!

FYI: The .cbr and .cbz files are just .rar (cbR) and .zip (cbZ) files that anyone can easily read by decompressing them into .jpg.

More info here:

http://www.sketchyorigins.com/comics/showthread.php?t=424

http://btfaq.com/serve/cache/45.html  
(Version 1.2(648))

ALBABE  Hey Hugh:

Thanx for the great advise. Almost as good as the "helpful" folks from the Transmission Forum... or... waitaminute... Are you one of the smarties from the Transmission Forum of super-smart macaroons?

Some advise for you. If you have no advise... keep it to yourself.  
(Version 0.6.1)

ALBABE  It's nice to have a developer make a few cursory comments in here... but... Big Deal. 5 months and this Crap App is still a beta?

This "new" version has less features than the 3 YEAR old last version!!!

Sheeeesh... talk about feeling like a second class citizen...  
(Version 3.0b1r2)

ALBABE  I've had nothing but trouble with Transmission. I've had files that Transmission said were complete, and then Toast said they weren't audio files. Then I noticed they had no size at all.

And Transmission's forum pages were no help. No real "experts" offered any real advise... however I did get a lot of bad advise and tech-knowledge-posturing from a few know-it-alls who were obviously vacant of any real tech knowledge.  
(Version 0.6.1)

ALBABE  This is very disappointing. Another example where Macs are ignored by major applications.

Why release something with so many bugs, and less features than the previous version?

In all fairness, BitTorrent does call this a "beta" version on their d/l page... but this app seems as badly designed and as impotent as Yahoo's new IM app.

In regards to Transmission: I've had nothing but trouble with it. I've had files that Transmission said were complete, and then Toast said they weren't audio files. Then I noticed they had no size at all.

And Transmission's forum pages were no help. No real "experts" offered any real advise... however I did get a lot of bad advise and tech-knowledge-posturing from a few know-it-alls who were obviously vacant of any real tech knowledge.  
(Version 4.27.2)

ALBABE  "Relax"? Don't presume...

1). "0 feedback?" Be serious. Every Mac user I deal with on Yahoo IM is annoyed about it. Most of them tried it for a short while and went back to the last crappy version (2.5.3).

Of course you may be right in that you've got "0 feedback," however unlikely that may be. Maybe us Mac users have seen so little from you in so many years that we don't send feedback, assuming that since you've never really provided us with a decent app, that you really don't care.

2). So, what your saying is it's a pain in the arse to do... but that's okay because you folks don't spend near as much time working on a Mac app(?)

3). There is a "fix" to the older version (2.5.3) that changes the "command G" to a Show Profile... sorry... I'm used to it. It's much more useful than the annoying "BUZZ."

4). 5). Etc. etc. etc....

As for "sending feedback..." Shouldn't you just make a nice app that's at least somewhat similar in features to what's been available on a PC for years?

Thanx for responding... I do appreciate it. And I certainly don't mean to offend you... But chastising me for your presuming that I'm not "relaxed" is just a defensive way of saying that Yahoo spends little time on it's Mac client.

You want feedback? Go to versiontracker and read what MysticalOS (Adam Williams) has posted.

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/14474

xoxo,

~albabe  
(Version 3.0b1r2)

ALBABE  As jbohn has already reported... this is NOT a new version. It's been around for a few weeks in all it's pathetic inept glory.

C'mon Yahoo, give us Mac users a break. MysticalOS (Adam Williams) below has an enormous list of crap that Yahoo has done nothing about.

It's also got serious privacy flaws as younkint has already stated:

http://www.macfixit.com/index.php?date=2006-08-10

and this: http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/393195

While my problems aren't as lengthy as some... here's my major buggaboos:

No "Ignore" Button

No "Show Profile" Button

No ability to "Save copy"

And nothing like 2.5.3's "Command K" ... that used to show all that's been typed in conversation

No Ability to Join Yahoo Chat Rooms

No "See Others Cam" button or pull down  
(Version 3.0b1r2)

ALBABE  I actually didn't "fail to realize," anything.

Like I said, "No offence..." but I don't care about him personally... I care about Yahoo Msngr... so I was directing my problems to him because "HE" is the one who tried to explain that it was just a beta and things like" ...archiving aren't implemented yet."

I just care that Yahoo supports Macs... They barely do... and this new "beta" doesn't work as well as the 3 year old version... This new beta is almost completely ineffectual as an app. Any idea when it will be a "real" app, rather than a beta?  
(Version 3.0b1)

ALBABE  To "Developer":

I always send problems to the feedback function in OS X, but if I were to assume that Yahoo actually read those and took them serious... I think you need to be serious. Yahoo's last involvement with Macs was in 2003. Not the best record for caring about the customers... but I realize that's certainly not your fault... I'm sure you are just a cog.

But seeing as you saw my post and your site says that you work at Yahoo, then I assume you were also responsible and sent my problems to the other "Developers."

On your site you are very excited to see this bastard son of Yahoo 2.5.3. No offence to you or your work on it, but it lacks the very usable functions (That I mentioned above) from the last build. I don't really give a rats azz what the app looks like, I care that it's functional. Everyone that I know on a Mac tried the new IM from anywhere for a few hours to a few days and decided that 2.5.3 was more functional than the new one.

Again, no offence to you, and I'm sure you are proud of your work on it, but it would be nice to have a functional app rather than a pretty new build with less functionality that took 3 years to produce.  
(Version 3.0b1)

ALBABE  This is a beta... Yahoo took 3 years to support Mac since the last Yahoo Msngr and will probably change this from beta to an actual "real" application in, maybe... 3 years. This app is a piece of crap.

No Yahoo Chat Room support!!!

Most chat-friends can't invite you to their cam.

My cam still won't work on Yahoo.

When you get a message from someone, there is no button or "pull-down" to show their Yahoo Profile (Was "Command I" in last piece-o-crap version).

No button to refresh the chat window, so as to get all of what has been typed before (in the last version it was "Command K."

No button to IGNORE jerks who won't leave you alone (You can access an ignore menu from preferences... but it doesn't work!!!)

Can't SAVE anything in a chat window any more (It did in last Mac version)  
(Version 3.0b1)

ALBABE  I have some problems with Unsanity.

I purchased WindowShade from them and it had all sorts of problems starting up (basically it wouldn't) in OS X 10.4.4. Their support was snitty and not any help at all. I finally figured out what their problem was, and when I told them how I got around their bad programming, I never got a "thanx" or...

So... this is why, as much as I'd like to get ShapeShifter, I'm very reticent.

albabe  
(Version 4.0.2)

ALBABE  I have some problems with Unsanity.

I purchased WindowShade from them and it had all sorts of problems starting up (basically it wouldn't) in OS X 10.4.4. Their support was snitty and not any help at all. I finally figured out what their problem was, and when I told them how I got around their bad programming, I never got a "thanx" or...

So... this is why, as much as I'd like to get ShapeShifter, I'm very reticent.

albabe  
(Version 2.3.1)