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Real Name:Alan Harper 
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Sente
Nov 16 2009

ALANTERRA  Sente 5 and 6 can also integrate with any word processor that saves as .rtf. There are problems inherent in .rtf, but given the limitations of .rtf, Sente can insert references and create a bibliography.  
(Version 6.0.19)

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Sente
Nov 16 2009

ALANTERRA  The comment "when a local pdf file (downloaded by app other than Sente) is added to the library, it can only be read inside the Sente window but not by external app such as Acrobat" is not correct.

There are issues if you are keeping pdf's inside your library (required for syncing libraries), but if you are keeping pdf's as files in directories, of course you can open them with any appropriate app.  
(Version 6.0.19)

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Sente
Nov 16 2009
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ALANTERRA  I have used Sente 5 for almost a year now, and am just upgrading to Sente 6.

Pros--powerful management of references for reading, browsing, filing, and including in bibliographies. Able to take large databases in a single bound! Great support for downloading papers from the web. All-in-one solution for management of references, including web references, journal papers, books, scans of xeroxes. And now including synchronization of libraries between computers.

Cons--occasional user interface glitches, undo not fully implemented, no comprehensive user manual.

While I still have not used all the parts of Sente, it has changed my life researching various topics. I right now have 3,000+ references, and this is growing quickly. My research is in various old corners of the biological world, so I can't use PubMed, and Sente's integration with Google Scholar is great. (In spite of all the data problems in Google Scholar). I often am using old journals, and I xerox the articles and scan them, and it is easy to add these to Sente. Integration with JSTOR is great.

Sente 6 now has "keywords" and "tags", keywords being supplied by the author and skimmed from the journal's online site, and tags being supplied by the user. Not the most obvious solution, but I think it is pretty common. You see the same solution in Papers.

I am not using the synchronize feature, but the word is that it works well, but causes some limits on how other programs can link with saved pdfs (because Sente needs to copy, rename and delete pdfs behind the scenes to implement synchronization).

I just spent a few hours looking at some of the competition, and here are some comments:

Papers: Nice but incomplete. For instance, you can't add books to the reference database. And, while you can add tags to references, you can't add the same tag to multiple references at a time. Reading their forums, it is obvious that many people want these features, but the authors have not had time to implement them yet.

Papers focuses on reading pdfs, not compiling and filing them. While it is useful, it might be just as useful to use the Finder + a good pdf reader like Skim.

Mendeley: I couldn't transfer my Sente database to Mendeley--the pdfs did not transfer (meaning that I would have to drag and drop 2,000+ pdfs one by one). Other fields that I use in Sente to organize my database (like Status, or Library Call #) also didn't transfer. It seemed like a better solution for a lab that is working mostly with recent documents, not a person who still uses a physical library like me. Mendeley is still in beta, but the price can't be beat (free), and Mendeley is cross-platform.

For me, the time I have saved keeping my references organized in Sente is more than repaid by the cost.  
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PDFpen
Feb 26 2009
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ALANTERRA  I just wanted to put in a short review saying how much I like PDFPen. If you are considering Acrobat Pro, definitely check out PDFPen--it might be better and cheaper for your purposes.

I first bought PDFPen for "light editing" of PDFs. Even though I own Acrobat Pro 8, I wanted a program that was specifically meant for editing pdf documents. You know when you have a form that has spaces that you are supposed to fill out--like with an IBM Selectric typewriter--PDFPen does that perfectly. It also assembles PDFs out of a group of separate documents, so you can take the form, delete the 3 pages of instructions, add the essay answer, paste in your signature and date, and just email back the final application without scanning or printing.

But, I just figured out today that the other thing PDFPen does well is that it "understands" multi-column documents. If you have ever tried to select text in a two-column document using Preview, you know what a PITA it can be. But PDFPen understands the document better, so you can select just the text you want.

I also use PDFPen to highlight passages in documents, just like reading a real paper document with a yellow highlighter in your hand!

I haven't tried the OCR yet, but have read that it is as reliable (or unreliable) as Acrobat's. I'll compare the two programs later.

But, in general, there is little that most of us need to do with a PDF that PDFPen can't do.

A

Oh, PS, I don't think it has ever crashed on me. I'm not sure I can say that about any other program I use (maybe BBEdit, not sure).  
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Papers
Feb 14 2009
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ALANTERRA  This is just a short review. I looked at Papers and decided to not use it.

Its user interface is well-thought-out, but it feels very incomplete. I could not figure out how to add a book or a book chapter as a reference type (and neither could a number of other people who posted to the forums). There isn't a manual that you can search for answers to simple questions, only some introductory movies plus forums on the developer's site. I ran into a number of refresh problems, which, until you figure out that they are just cosmetic bugs, cause pointless head scratching (do I not understand? is the program broken?).

As a way of browsing lots of pdfs, and for looking up bibliographic data in Google Scholar, this program is awesome. But if you move beyond its strengths, you find it hard to know how to continue.

I would definitely look at this program and see if it meets your needs, but also check out the alternatives, from Zotero to Sente (ie, from free to much more expensive).

A  
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Sente
Feb 14 2009
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ALANTERRA  I haven't explored all the features of Sente, but it seems to be head and shoulders above its competition. I spent the last few days looking at Sente, Papers, Zotero, and one programs that I didn't even bother to look at due to bad reviews (EndNote).

For my needs, Sente is the best. I am trying to organize a couple of thousand pdfs (and a few other kinds of documents), and continue to research various areas from that base. Sente seems to have a strong emphasis on medical research (it uses PubMed as a default database to look for things, and I haven't figured out how to change that). But the tools of being able to look up bibliographic data automatically in Google Scholar, use keywords, and browse pdfs from within the program make the program exactly what I need.

As of Feb 2009, the developers are giving some insight into the next version of the program, which looks to be a useful improvement. It will be a free upgrade to anyone who purchases the program after Jan 1, 2009.  
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Sente
Feb 20 2009

RICKDUDE  Pity you didn't check out Bookends alongside Sente. I'm always looking for comparisons of these two leading bibliographic programs. Looks like the most recent comparative review was a year ago, and a lot has happened since then.   
(Version 5.7.3)

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