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Jul 10 2008

FROMAGE-HEAD  The calculator done right. Very nice app.

Hm why not using International preferences for decimals and thousands ?  
(Version 1.4.4)

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Feb 14 2007

ANDREW SCOTT  This might make an interesting widget, memory permitting.  
(Version 1.4.3)

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Nov 7 2006
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THE VALRUS  Revised review: Satisfactory. Looks nice, works well for what it's intended for (complex numbers are clearly not what it's intended for), clean and spiffy. I doubt I'm part of the intended audience but for what it is, it's a fine program.  
(Version 1.4.2)

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Jun 17 2006
*****

PHILLRYU  For my purposes (a calculator more advanced than the included one), Soulver is really great. It's fast, clean, and is about 5x more useful / nicer than Calculator app's built-in "Paper Tape" feature. Sure, it's no Mathematica, but I also didn't drop a few grand on this, so I've been nothing but satisfied, and no regrets on the $13 I spent.  
(Version 1.3.3)

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Jun 15 2006
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THEVALRUS  Unsatisfactory. Doesn't even recognize complex numbers, and not only crashed but brought my system to a grinding halt when I tried to enter:

y = 2x + 5

x = y + 2  
(Version 1.3.3)

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May 10 2006
*****

GLENN-001  I downloaded Soulver to see whether it would be useful for my kids to do their Maths homework. For primary/mid school students, I can say this is a *fantastic* application. It looks excellent for upper school, but haven't seen it used there.

Soulver has a very simple interface - if you just open it and type (e.g. 2+2) you see the answer immediately - very intuitive.

The big advantage Soulver has is that it lets the student show each stage of solving a problem. Homework assignments are done completely in Soulver - type a heading/date/name, type question numbers, and then type expressions/equations and results.

Soulver lets you combine lines of text and numbers, while easily resolve the value of expressions. So an algebra problem might go:

Q2. Solve 4a -2b where a=4 and b = 3

4a - 2b

=(4x4)-(2x3) (Soulver shows answer as 10)

=10

For younger maths students doing homework, this is invaluable.

Soulver lets you easily enter mathematical symbols (divide, square root) as part of equations.

I compared Soulver to MathPad. For some inexplicable reason, MathPad seems to think that showing the working out for long division and long multiplication is vitally important. News for MathPad - it isn't. Mathematics teachers have moved on, and nowadays its perfectly acceptable to calculate 625/25 with a calculator, rather than having to work it out the long way. The US assocation of mathematics teachers is very clear on this, as are other mathematics bodies.

The Soulver approach is to provide a clean worksheet enviroment for kids to work in. They can do all their homework assignment and then print-PDF-mail it to their teacher or print it out and hand it in.

If you have kids at school, download the software and try it. It all just works.

  
(Version 1.3.1)

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May 30 2006

JT42B  I think you may be talking about a commercial program called MathPad that is for students with disabilities.

The other reviews here are comparing Soulver to the freeware MathPad here on macupdate.

macupdate.com/info.php/id/8614

The freeware MathPad is similar to Soulver and doesn't do any long division.

One advantage MathPad has is that it always re-evaluates the entire worksheet so so the order of definitions doesn't matter. For your example it's worksheet could look like:

--Q2. Solve 4a -2b where a=4 and b = 3

4*a - 2*b:10.000

a = 4

b = 3  
(Version 1.3.1)

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May 30 2006

IZAC  That format is perfectly acceptable for Soulver too:

4 × a ? 2 × b = 10

a=4

b=3

You can change the values of a or b and the value of the first line (10) will dynamically update. With math pad you have to hit enter everytime to make the first line reflect the new values.   
(Version 1.3.1)

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May 30 2006

JT42B  Soulver may attempt to dynamically update but in many cases IT DOESN'T GET IT RIGHT. Try this:

a+b

a=2

b=1/a

Soulver shows 0 as the answer for a+b. There are many other examples where inconsistient results are shown, especially when editing multi-line calculations.

I prefer the MathPad model where I can freely do multiple edits anywhere in the worksheet and when I'm finished I hit enter to re-evaluate. After I hit enter, I can trust ALL the results and it can report errors such as undefined variables.

The original reviewer was looking at Soulver for use by middle school students and it may in fact be a good choice for that. However he apparently didn't look at the freeware MathPad which would be able to do the same things he was looking for (and possibly better for free).  
(Version 1.3.1)

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Nov 13 2005
***½.

GB  I wasn't going to post a review because as a long time MathPad user I figured I would be biased against this. The developers originally described this as a "mathpad with style" so I figured I'd check it out. Since they are asking a shareware fee and MathPad is free it seems fair to compare.

MathPad is a very powerful general purpose program but I'll just compare its use as a simple calculator since that seems to be Soulver's intent.

Soulver uses a slightly different interface concept than MathPad. It evaluates each line of text as it is typed and puts the answer (if any) in a separate column to the right. This is easier for first time users. In MathPad you have to learn to hit the enter key to see your answers. Once you learn to hit enter, the net effect is about the same.

MathPad evaluates the entire worksheet rather than individual lines. This allows more complex calculations to be built up from multiple equations over multiple lines.

Soulver provides a total of all the numbers in the answer column. This is a handy feature if the numbers are related and the total is meaningful.

Soulver claims to have built-in equation solving. This is something MathPad does not have built in. However when I tried Soulver, even simple equations took minutes to never to solve (900MHz G3). Editing the equation and getting it to solve again didn't seem to work at all.

MathPad's interface is a bit old and clunky. Soulver tends to look nicer but this version still has some bugs. I had occasional trouble with cut and paste. Also when editing text, the answer column sometimes duplicates numbers on lines that don't have answers.

Soulver attempts to be a bit more elegant with input notation but its superscript entry is cumbersome to unworkable. Entering something like 4^(1/2) doesn't work.  
(Version 1.2.1)

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Nov 12 2005

GB  It isn't really a NEW "kind of scientific calculator which features a word processor style interface with instant calculation" since MathPad has been doing that for years. It may have more (or at least different) "style" than MathPad.  
(Version 1.2.1)

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ZAC  Mathpad does have a "word processor style interface" but it does not have "instant calculation" nor the same kind of interface as Soulver's answer column for displaying answers.  
(Version 1.2.1)

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Nov 13 2005

GB  I tend to think of MathPad as doing "instant calculation" but I guess you are referring to the fact that in MathPad you have to hit the enter key when you are done editing. In Soulver it changes the answer for a line while you are typing.

Soulver's line oriented answer column approach makes a nice calculator but it doesn't really take full advantage of the worksheet idea. For example in MathPad you can do things like:

x=3

k=10

sin(x+k)

In Soulver the answer column shows 3 and 10 but no answer for sin(x+k). In MathPad you hit enter and "instantly" see sin(x+k):0.225  
(Version 1.2.1)

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Nov 13 2005

ZAC  Ok - Great feedback, we will work on that. Cheers!  
(Version 1.2.1)

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May 23 2005
****½

DANIELLE  Found this cool app on the MacUpdate home page this evening.

It has a really cool concept. I love the equation solver part. I'm really liking the 'dashboard' like answers pallette. It shows decimals and notation in real time.

It will be good to see how this progresses. Pretty solid for a 1.0 release.  
(Version 1.0)

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