 | Sep 23 2009 |
STEVE HARRIS Together shouldn't use any CPU when you're not using it, unless it's doing something (e.g. generating thumbnails), so I would need to check what was going on. If you need support, visit my site: http://reinventedsoftware.com/support/ | |
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 | Sep 13 2009 |
SOLEFALD Great application, but this thing is FULL of bugs. As someone already mentioned, tags do not work, indexing does not work, when scrolling through your files the app horribly lags, leaks memory and chews up the CPU. Only after 30-40 min of being minimized the memory usage is at 350Mb and CPU at 25%! What is this? Firefox? haha Please fix it. I love the app, and would like to continue running it. | |
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 | Sep 16 2009 |
DOOBIEXX Running together doesn't take up 25% of my system, of course different, but that is WAY too much cpu resources... border line ridiculous. I have been using Together for a very long time and love the app too, but instead of having to run the app all the time maybe a less resource consuming app add-on/helper can be implemented so we can enjoy all the benefits of having the together "tab" at the edge of our screen without crippling our system to a crawl. Kind of like the new devonthink "sorter" or ummm... (I know completely different kind of apps, just expressing the helper idea and how it's implemented well.) contactizer's helper... Little help app is resource conscious, lets you add/view info without opening the main app. Maybe some thought. Price comparison to devonthink pro office is blatantly one sided. Together is priced well and devonthink pro office will put you in the hole at an estimated $ 150. They do however offer 25% off if your affiliated with a school. Food for thought. Sorry to jack the thread but I did not think a new post was needed as we are both talking about reducing together's impact on the os when running from startup to shutdown. ReInvented Software, together's devs, are very responsive from my experience so hopefully something is in the works but we have to remember the more of us who complain about this issue the more likely they will move it up on the ever growing "to-do" list. (Version 2.2.12) | |
 | Aug 24 2009 |
DONPERREAULT Love the ability to edit an webarchives in Together. I edit out advertisements & comments. This is the most feature rich application of its kind and I've tried most all of them. (Version 2.2.11) | |
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 | Aug 19 2009 |
SIDRA I was surprised by how much I liked this app. I had test driven Devonthink, Yojimbo, Evernote etc., and had pretty much settled on Devonthink after using it a couple months, even though it was a bit too robust for my needs. I hadn't heard much about Together and tried it out on a lark. I've been hooked ever since. This is a great product -- lightweight, elegant and intuitive. Exactly what a Mac app should be. It's become indispensable to my workflow. All the digital flotsam I've collected over the years is now centralized, accessible and organized. The feature I like best is that all of my documents exist separate from the program itself. It's not tied up in a proprietary database, so if it gets corrupted, or they stop developing it, my stuff is pretty much intact. Another great feature is that I can organize things in hierarchical folders as well as with tags. Sure, there are things here and there that I'd like to see done differently, but overall, it does exactly what I need it to do. The developer is also extremely responsive, which is always helpful. (Version 2.2.10) | |
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 | Jun 20 2009 |
JUST A USER a can full of bugs! currently, indexing does not work, labels do not work either, as well as other problems. (Version 2.2.9) | |
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 | May 15 2009 |
JAZZADDICT I really enjoy using Together. The feature set is best in its class. I consider Together my 'digital hub'; It's where everything comes together on my mac. It is one of my most used 3rd party apps. My favorite things about Together are the tag implementation, the intuitive interface, and the import process. My biggest gripe with the program is that the interface can get sluggish on my ppc and require restarts to speed things up. I notice interface sluggishness in Together more than other apps, but it's not to bad. On Intel I'm sure it's much quicker. Good developer. Handles support pretty well and is excellent at fixing bugs and implementing feedback. | |
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 | Mar 19 2009 |
ATA I'm still working with the demo but so far so good. It is more feature complete than Yojimbo but custom icons on folders look really bad on this. I'm suspecting it's because it's at 32 x 32 pixels or even smaller. When I use the same custom icons in Yojimbo they look much nicer and are easier to see. Other than that little annoyance, I think I'm going to buy this app when my demo ends. I just hope the developer doesn't abandon development for it. (Version 2.2.7) | |
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 | Mar 19 2009 |
ATA Just took a screenshot of both Together and Yojimbo and it looks like the custom icons are anti-aliased on Yojimbo. That is probably why they look much nicer. Hopefully the developer will fix this in an update. (Version 2.2.7) | |
 | Mar 5 2009 |
DONPERREAULT Best app of it's kind. However, the auto tag feature is useless. Every time the developer upgrades the Together I try the auto tag feature again and each and every item I import it tags wrong. Other than the auto tag feature, Together is the best! (Version 2.2.7) | |
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 | Jan 21 2009 |
XPLICIT Auto tagging doesn't work at all. One of the worst implementation of a feature I've ever seen. Imported a website (xkcd.com - that's the webcomic) and it got tagged with "coding" and "workflow". ??????? Not even the page title? Come on ... (Version 2.2.4) | |
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 | Feb 3 2009 |
STEVE HARRIS Together uses an Mac OS X technology called Latent Semantic Mapping for its auto-tagging feature, which works out the most likely tags based on the tags you already have used for similar content. If you look at the textual content of the xkcd home page (e.g. the very, very small print down the bottom), it actually mentions things like algorithms and mathematics, so that probably explains this case. The tagging is smart though, so if you were to change the tags on those, it will start to learn that web pages that mention both algorithms and humor are not the same as the others in your library. (Version 2.2.5) | |
 | Feb 21 2009 |
XPLICIT And how often am I supposed to delete an incorrect tag? I've done it like 20 times now and still the "system" adds a wrong tag. That's what I don't need, that's what I don't have time for. So for me, that feature is crap. (Version 2.2.6) | |
 | Jan 7 2009 |
MAR6473 This is a great application. The developer has been constantly developing it. If you try it you'll see that it is much better at capturing web pdfs than other similar apps. I've been using it for quite some time and I just realized that you can Quicklook your documents right from the shelf. If you find it a bit slow when browsing I found that disabling the icon previews speeds it up a lot. It's great for notes, journaling and collecting snippets of information when doing research. It stores your notes and files in a standard file structure within your documents folder so you can use other file browsers if you want. (Version 2.2.4) | |
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 | Nov 29 2008 |
DADAMA This product is merely ho hum. Synchronization is poorly implemented and buggy, the program is sloooow to import and the interface is nothing revolutionary. Like other projects in this category (Yojimbo/Eaglefiler/Journaler) there is a lot of potential and room for improvement. (Version 2.2.2) | |
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 | Jan 5 2009 |
STEVE HARRIS I didn't notice this until posting the 2.2.4 release but for the record, version 2.2.3 fixed the problem with slow imports in 2.2.2 and, thankfully, I haven't heard of any MobileMe syncing issues since Mac OS X 10.5.6 was released. (Version 2.2.4) | |
 | Jan 6 2009 |
DADAMA Yes too be fair synchronization does work better but it would be nice to see more synchronization options other than Mobileme. Omnifocus sets the bar in this regard. I should say that I find myself using this software much more than I anticipated (sans synchronizing) and I think it is better than much of the competition (Yojimbo/Eaglefiler/etc). For synchronizing simple notes and to do lists across computers/platforms I use Evernote and for heavy duty filing I rely on Devonthink (now in 2beta). I find I use Together at home daily as dropbox for collecting and tagging files for filing later. For this I think it is the best software going. (Version 2.2.4) | |
 | Nov 20 2008 |
ALEXIUSCA Love it -- Together is just a few updates away from replacing Yojimbo for me once and for all. However, I find the interface in general a bit sluggish, on my MBP window resizing is quite painful. Also, I love how Yojimbo let's you tag super easily. Together doesn't do quite as smooth a job with keyboard navigation. Suggestions? (Version 2.2.2) | |
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 | Nov 26 2008 |
GCOGHILL I too found the interface sluggish until I turned off the icon previews in the View Options palette. Now it's super fast. The developer should consider either fixing the speed with icon previews, or turn it off by default. I almost gave up on this app after importing a bunch of text files, the speed was so slow. (Version 2.2.2) | |
 | Nov 27 2008 |
ALEXIUSCA wow did that help, thanks!! (Version 2.2.2) | |
 | Dec 16 2008 |
JAZZADDICT Even with that fix it still runs pretty slow on my dual 2.0 g5 compared to other apps. The interface crawls sometimes. Probably runs a lot quicker on intel systems. My g5 doesn't feel as quick as it used too. It doesn't handle spotlight as quick as intel systems and Together relies on that a lot. Like when clicking through tags. A bit sluggish. Oh well. Hopefully I'll get a macbook soon. peace. (Version 2.2.3) | |
 | Nov 14 2008 |
LIAM_IMAC So far this has crashed on me twice, and i have had to force quit once when it became un-responsive. When i use the "save web page as PDF" It wont give me the option to save the file as the option is grayed out, also closing the tab on the your new import does not prompt you to save. (Version 2.2.1) | |
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 | Nov 15 2008 |
STEVE HARRIS Version 2.2.1 should have addressed the crashing, which was down to the new auto-tagging feature. I can't identify any crash reports using your MacUpdate name, but I'd be interested to hear from you so I could look into your problems. On the option being greyed out to save a web page as a PDF, I don't know which option you mean, and as no one else has reported a problem with this, I can't really comment. Get in touch if you need help. Thanks. (Version 2.2.1) | |
 | Nov 17 2008 |
LIAM_IMAC My trouble was with the version prior to the latest update. I can now say that version 221 has solved my issues and works great. Thanks to the developer for there reply (Version 2.2.1) | |
 | Nov 12 2008 |
JSEARL Missed my rating - 5 stars (Version 2.2) | |
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 | Nov 12 2008 |
JSEARL THis is head and shoulders above 'similar' products such as MacJournal or Journler - if only because itr enders both Pages and Numbers (through Quicklook) . I bought it minutes after using it for the first time. Awesome. (Version 2.2) | |
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 | Nov 11 2008 |
JAZZADDICT It's getting better all the time. The newly reorganized tag area makes things much easier. My tag list was getting out of control. Auto-tags is sweet. I haven't tested it's usability but it's nice to see it's there. I think the big one everyone wanted to see was the ability to rearrange tabs. Clutch! Thanks Steve for another solid update! (Version 2.2) | |
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 | Nov 11 2008 |
JAZZADDICT and to think this use to be K.I.T.! I had totally forgot till a second ago. I didn't like that app. Was using Yojimbo at the time. Not no more! Together is the best PIM I've scene on the OS X yet. (Version 2.2) | |
 | Aug 15 2008 |
NESSUNO I bought this app hoping the author would implement Sync Services soon. He doesn't. Another update without synking (cp. Yojimbo, SOHO Notes...). I need my notes on my iMac when I return from work where I created them on my MacBook. I'm frustrated. (Version 2.1.6) | |
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 | Aug 15 2008 |
JAZZADDICT If you would have read the documentation, contacted the developer, or visited the developers website you would know syncing has existed in Together since May. It's taken care of through the Library manager. (Version 2.1.6) | |
 | Aug 15 2008 |
NESSUNO Ho! Great! Thanks a lot for that hint! I HAD contacted the dev., and the last thing I heard of him was that he planned this feature for a future update. (Version 2.1.6) | |
 | Aug 15 2008 |
JAZZADDICT Also, can you justify why you gave the ratings you did? I'm not sure why you're using an .app that you rated 2/5 for features and 2/5 for value. Thanks. :-) (Version 2.1.6) | |
 | Aug 12 2008 |
JAZZADDICT I wish the developer wasn't the one doing support. That's usually not a good thing. The kind of support and feedback responses I get from the developer are not as thorough and courteous as responses I get from other software companies. The responses seem rushed though not impolite in any way. Go send some feedback or a question to the Omnigroup and see the difference. They make you feel encouraged to report as many bugs as possible and provide feedback (therefor making there software much better.) It gives the developers much more time to work on the software instead of responding to tons of support requests and flickering through the barrage of feature requests that come in. There would be much less pressure on the developer and much better experience for users if there was someone completely dedicated to support who has good customer service skills. Will Shipley once said in a podcast interview that if a developer is doing support for his or her product it is a great disservice to their customers. I agree. Together is very good software. Keep up the good work. (Version 2.1.5) | |
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 | Aug 15 2008 |
GNAIHC Agree. Maybe he can consider using some services like Get Satisfaction (http://getsatisfaction.com/) (Version 2.1.6) | |
 | Aug 15 2008 |
JAZZADDICT I actually shared a few emails with the developer (Steve) regarding his support service since posting my thread. He doesn't currently generate enough revenue from the .app to hire support. To make up for this he has put a lot of effort into creating the best support system possible. He's not always able to answer every feedback submission individually but his goal is to answer support requests within 24 hours. I think it helps him quite a bit when people use the forums instead of emailing him because it gives others a chance to respond with helpful information and links to other similar threads. Also, the forums help him prioritize feedback. Despite how impressed I am with how hard he's working to make the support experience what it is, I still really really wish of course that he was in a position to hire support. That way the time he spends providing support could be dedicated to development. I'm sure that would really catalyze Together's development. (Version 2.1.6) | |
 | Jul 19 2008 |
AKROBAT So, I have to spend $100 extra for MobileMe just in order to network via 2 Macs? (Version 2.1.5) | |
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 | Aug 12 2008 |
JAZZADDICT Tell me about it. I wish an open source project would start that replicates the mobileme syncing feature so any developer can build it into their .app for free. Till then. (Version 2.1.5) | |
 | Jul 3 2008 |
KADOOGAN I trialled this for a while, and recently paid to register. To be honest it was one of the easier buying decisions I have made. I had previously tried DEVONthink and EagleFiler. Whilst DEVONthink is a good piece of software I found it took too long to start up, and it's method of using it's own database to store my files was a big issue for me. Databases can become corrupted so as well as storing all my files in DEVONthink I had to keep the original files as well. Both EagleFiler and Together do not work this way, your files are kept in their original format, so even if you experience a problem with the program your files are still accessible from Finder. My main reasons for choosing Together over EagleFiler were mainly the user interface, which I find much nicer in Together, and the way it deals with saving emails. EagleFiler seems to keep emails in separate mailboxes which means you can't have them in the same folder as PDF's or txt files, and it's difficult or impossible to access them directly from the Finder (maybe there is a way round this but at this point I found Together which didn't have the issue). Together simply accepts .eml files which it stores in the same folder as all your other docs, or whatever folder you choose. The one thing I can think of that I would like to see is the ability to zoom into images. At the moment it just displays them as full-size if smaller than the display window, or shrinks them to fit the window if the image is bigger. I'd like to see a button to zoom into a small image to make it increase to fit the window. Together is a lovely piece of software that makes browsing your documents a pleasure rather than a chore. (Version 2.1.4) | |
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 | Jun 12 2008 |
BILL CLINTON I'm extremely reluctant to use an organizer such as Together that stores files in its own "way." I know--it stores them in Finder format, but that's not good enough for me. I want to have the organizer be able to bring together files from anywhere on the file system. That way, I get all of the benefits of the organizer (1) without having to worry about accessing the files the normal way and still having them where I would expect, rather than digging through the organizer's own hierarchy every time, and (2) being totally screwed when the organizer is no longer available--AND THAT TIME WILL COME. Does Together have this capability? Do any of the others? (Version 2.1.3) | |
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 | Jun 13 2008 |
XARIK While I understand your concerns for using an app that stores files in its own unique "way," Together has the ability to export your attachments back into the Finder just the way they are, so that you can access them "normally" as you would without Together; in that sense there's little risk that you would lose your data because it's not actually bound to a proprietary format as with other applications of a similar vein. However, if you simply want an app that will allow you a faster way of accessing your files without having to copy them over, you might want to take a look at Path Finder (http://www.macupdate.com/screenshot.php?id=6371). Although I haven't used the app in a while, AFAIK, it doesn't copy the files into its own database, but only displays them in a more accessible way. Maybe this is more like what you're looking for? If I'm not mistaken, that is. :) Hope that helped somehow. (Version 2.1.3) | |
 | Jun 24 2008 |
STEVE HARRIS Together allows you to link to files anywhere on your system without needing to move them. (Version 2.1.3) | |
 | May 25 2008 |
DONPERREAULT Another great feature is you can edit web archives to remove all the crap not related to the information that is important. The more I use Together the more I realize Together is far better than all the other similar applications and I have tried most all of them. Keep up the great work... (Version 2.1.1) | |
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 | May 15 2008 |
SHERMAN WILCOX I'm now a registered owner of this product. It has great features, and incredible technical support. Highly recommended. (Version 2.1.1) | |
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 | May 15 2008 |
JAZZADDICT 2.1 is a great update. The fact that you can link to a Together entry from another Application is great. I haven't seen any other Application do this. The shelf has greatly improved. Getting stuff into the database has become so much easier with the addition of system wide hot key importing, bookmarklets, improved quick note, and best of all; everything that gets saved to the Together library in the Finder now gets automatically imported into Together. Sweet! :-) (Version 2.1.1) | |
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 | May 14 2008 |
ALBFAN With this new release of Together, every change made to the database is now reflected in the Finder. And it works the other way too: changes made with the Finder are reflected in Together. A really great application, thanks to the developper! (Version 2.1) | |
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 | May 13 2008 |
ALBFAN I forgot to rate. For me, Together deserves 5 stars. (Version 2.1) | |
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 | May 13 2008 |
ALBFAN Absolutely fan-tas-tic! Just one wish: having the possibility to "clean up" the folder where Together stores the files. (I mean, move the files corresponding to deleted entries in some other place.) (Version 2.1) | |
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 | Apr 19 2008 |
MAR6473 This is a great little application. I do a lot of research online and I had loads of bookmarks in Safari for things that i needed to go back to later. With Together I can create Web Archives and Bookmarks really fast by just dragging them into the shelf. It is great if you need to manage a lot of bookmarks because you can tag them, add comments and label them any way you want. There is also an automator action that watches my documents folder for anything that i move in there. It's really handy. I also had a million little text edit documents that i linked to Together. Now it is really easy to find the one i need and flip through a bunch of them at the same time. I love the smart folders but because i use a lot of them it would be great to be able to put them into folders. It would also be nice if the "Quicknote" window didn't disappear when you clicked out of it. That way you could paste multiple things into a note or just go back to it to type until you want to close the window. Overall, I've tried several comparable programs and Together beats them all. It is more Stable than Soho notes, it's more functional than Yojimbo and it just has a nice and clean feel to it. The developer is great and very responsive. Together is really worth giving a try. (Version 2.0.10) | |
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 | Mar 3 2008 |
BUMBLEB Together is a wondrous, useful app. The way I can sort all my files that are otherwise scattered all over the place, by simply dragging them to the dock/shelf, is so cool. And, there's so much more, that makes this app such a nice alternative to Yojimbo, which I was using before. Give this app a shot, even if no other note/organizing apps have helped you before. This one worked for me, and my flow. On the negative side, the tags are not yet Spotlight-searchable. Which I was told by the developer a few months back would be coming at some point. I hope it will. It would be nice to have, but it ain't no dealbreaker;-) (Version 2.0.7) | |
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 | Feb 15 2008 |
JOBBY What I'd LOVE to see is a "Scan" button (using the scanner's TWAIN driver or ImageCapture, like in Yep/ReceiptWallet) I get a load of stuff on paper, and it would be so much quicker to scan it straight into Together, rather than open the scanner program, scan to PDF, and import the PDF into Together. That's the one feature that keeps me with Yep rather than upgrading my old version of KIT, but I much prefer the KIT/Together interface, and would switch back if it were added. (Version 2.0.7) | |
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 | Feb 14 2008 |
RADDLE Yes, Together is becoming very cool, and I've migrated out of both DT and Yojimbo to it. I'd like to be able to hide the shelf too, but gather that's coming. I'd also love to be able to sync to my other Macs via .Mac (that would make it killer, and is the one thing Yojimbo has over it), but that could be on the way too, by the sound of it. And if it's ever matched with a sync-able app on the iPhone, so i can take all this stuff on the road (and have an easy way of getting pdfs on there), then my happiness will be complete... Excellent software, reasonably priced. If you need a digital showbox that's flexible, attractive and reliable, heck it out. (Version 2.0.7) | |
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 | Jan 31 2008 |
MACBLISS A fine app, indeed. Scratches most of the needs of the most demanding user. Just a few issues that keep me from wanting to use it full time. I have a problem with the implementation of the library shelf, first in color (so dark) and second in placement. It's stuck in only 3 positions on left or right screen. Yes, Yojimbo's is as well, but it has a better looking tab -- lighter in color and angled. I think the growl notification should be optional. I'd prefer a sound notification as an alternative, like in Shovebox. When you are dragging urls from a web research session I'd rather not eee a notice pop up every few seconds. It can be distracting. Secondly, there should be a keyboard shortcut for adding items to the library. Like URLS while you surf, so you could bypass the shelf all together. And finally the shelf itself should have an open/close shortcut -- so you can hide it when you don't want to use it, without having to open the preferences in the app. As is, the shelf yields for an undesirable workflow., because if positioned on the left top I can't see the close button in my browser or the back button. On the right would be alright, but it's a lot further from the url bar for dragging, and with it's dark color it's a bit of a distraction as it contrasts greatly with the other apps I use. It should have an option to use the translucent light gray that Yojimbo does. It's much easier on the eye. These comments may seem like nitpicking but they affect the user experience, which is a big part in why we choose the software we use on a daily basis. I thought I should let it be stated, in the hopes that maybe a few minor changes could be implemented to make the "getting info in" aspect, to be be more fluid and enjoyable. (Version 2.0.5) | |
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 | Feb 4 2008 |
Check Together's support forums ( http://reinventedsoftware.com/forum/ ). Most of the issues you mentioned are discussed there... 1. Growl notifications always can be made optional. Just edit Growl's preferences in System Preferences panel... 2. As for adding things to the library, you can use the services shortcut (I believe it's Shift-Command-T by default, but I'm not sure). Check the forums as this is discussed there... 3. About the shelf, it's all dependent on your particular workflow... I try to use the services shortcut most of the time but when I use the shelf I would actually like it to be totally hidden (yet still there—still functional—as you can set in the app Leap). I don't know if that's what you mean, but if it is, it's something I already discussed with the developer and we'll probabluy see it in a near version... Anyway, check the forums as this is thoroughly discussed there... Take care, (Version 2.0.6) | |
 | Dec 18 2007 |
ZENRAIN I originally passed up both KIT and Yojimbo in favor of DevonThink Pro, mainly because of the inability to nest files. Now, I've been using Together since the upgrade from KIT, and have moved most of my documents from DevonThink to Together. Since I'm not a heavy researcher, Together fits my needs much better, and has far more flexibility for Tagging and filing. The shelf is fantastic, and allows quick filing and also searching and quick notes. Also, I'm really appreciating that all the files stored in Together are accessible using Spotlight (I really didn't think much about all the fuss about this not being available in DT, but now I have the option, I can't imagine going back). I also am starting to understand the difference between groups and folders. The fact that I can delete documents from a group without changing their actual folder location makes it perfect for quickly mark documents I want to read later on. I also have another group set as an inbox for filing later. This seems to me to be a much cleaner implementation of duplicates or replicants, at least as far as my usage goes. Other users mileage may of course vary. Prior to the 2.0.3 release I would have given stability a 2, as I was experiencing lockups when searching. However, the latest update resolved this and I haven't had any issues since then. Highly recommended. (Version 2.0.3) | |
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 | Dec 17 2007 |
TIAGO Over the last few days I've been thoroughly testing every file/info management app available. In the end, my choice was between Together and EagleFiler. Both are excellent apps but I find Together to offer a better balance of features and user experience. The interface is the best among these apps and the developer—Steve Harris—is very responsive and accessible. The price ($39) is the same (or almost) of the other apps I was considering (Yojimbo and EagleFiler), so this wasn't an issue. I'm sure several users might find $39 to be "too much" for such an app, but let me say: try it and you'll see that it's not expensive at all. Very recommended! (Version 2.0.3) | |
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 | Dec 15 2007 |
THEC13 I like where this app is going and I have officially taken Yojimbo off of my Mac. I'm not yet ready to give up my DEVONthink Pro, but I think it may be inevitable. (Version 2.0.3) | |
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 | Nov 29 2007 |
TFINDLAY You really have to work with this application to appreciate its power. I have tried many info managers over the years and Together has proven to be the best of the bunch. You can add virtually anything (email, iCal events, documents, applications, etc.) and organize these items a variety of ways (folders, smart folders, groups, smart groups, tags, labels, etc.). Drag and drop functionality is extensive. Anything that Quick View can preview can be previewed in Together. I am still discovering just how comprehensive this application really is. Add to all of this a responsive developer and continuous development and you have a program that is easy to recommend. (Version 2.0.2) | |
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 | Nov 26 2007 |
NULLSET This is one of those rare applications that actually *is* more useful than it first appears. It has quickly become my "memory manager" ... everything goes in here, from frequently used commands, to code snippets, to registrations and vacation receipts. Couldn't live without it. Now if I could get a way to sync libraries between computers or access my library from a web interface ... :) (Version 2.0.2) | |
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 | Nov 19 2007 |
STEVE HARRIS The previous commenter got their wires crossed about this. Together does use a different format for notes, but all KIT notes will be imported converted into Together on first run, or on demand. This is made clear in the first line of the KIT import panel shown when Together is launched, which probably explains why nobody had emailed me about this - which is always the best thing to do. I am not informed when new comments are posted on download sites. (Version 2.0.1) | |
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 | Nov 16 2007 |
HAUSLENDALE KIT USERS READ THIS After importing my KIT Library, this app will not read a (KIT NOTE). Meaning, any note document created with KIT will not be readable in Together. All .text files and .rtfd imported fine and are readable, but all ( KIT NOTE ) files will import but they are not readable. You would think the developer would have addressed this in the coding or at least created a converter so on import you could still use all your ( KIT NOTE ) files?? I will stick with KIT until this issues is fixed or other. (Version 2.0) | |
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 | Nov 17 2007 |
NULLSET HAUSLENDALE, it looks as though original KIT notes are themselves bundles. In the Finder right click on a KIT note and click "Show Package Contents". Here you will see that a KIT note actually contains some sort of P-List file and a folder called NoteText. Open this NoteText folder and you should see a TXT.rtf file that contains your original note. You can open this file with TextEdit and get at your original info. (Version 2.0) | |
 | Nov 19 2007 |
STEVE HARRIS The reason is that you don't need to open KIT notes in Together by importing them individually from KIT as you seem to be doing because Together will import and convert them for you. On first run, Together will offer to import your KIT library (and you can import KIT libraries at any time with File > Import KIT Library) converting notes, preserving tags, groups, ratings, labels, etc. (Version 2.0.1) | |
 | Nov 16 2007 |
PATOCHE Together v 2.0 was K.I.T which I bought and used a little bit in the past, then I discovered DevonThink Pro , loved it and leaved KIT. This morning I received a not from the developper about the upgrade option from KIT to Together for a small fee....and I gave a try....and wouaw.... That's the way DEVONThink Pro should be...what a pleasure to work with this soft, the stack, the search, the databases.... I immediatly imported all my datas from DT to Together...and I am very happy... Give a try and you won't regret. Very nice addition to my fresh install of Léopard. All good to all the Mac users. | |
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 | Oct 15 2007 |
HAUSLENDALE Leopard compatibility: with version 1.3.10 running in Leopard I see that every time I start the app it will start indexing. This makes a huge CPU load from this application. 68% to 79%. Why not just have the app check for any differences instead of indexing everything over and over again at every launch?? (Version 1.3.10) | |
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 | Jun 13 2007 |
SLOB KIT makes a lot of promises and it looked useful - and indeed is - as a precursor of Apple's new QuickLook - click on a file and for generic formats a preview appears in the pane below. And it was quite fast at importing. Nice, so I registered it on MacUpdate's half-price promo a while back and started linking some messy Finder folders to it and categorising things. That's about as far as it got though. The problems came when those folders changed their contents and KIT didn't dynamically update to reflect that. Even the 'smart' groups weren't on the same par as iTunes smartlists. Also the tagging system doesn't gel with Spotlight, nor the coloring with Finder labelling, so in effect KIT works separately from the rest of the system - it's in its own little world. Maybe that works if you transfer your stuff into KITs own folder - I didn't want to do that - but for those who want the promised 'magic' they need to look elsewhere, imo. I emailed the developer politely requesting dynamic linking and smart updating of original linked items and received no reply, so maybe it can't be done (?) Now I use it in a crudely dynamic way - emptying the database and redragging folders in to preview the contents, and that's it. Of course any categories, colors, tags are gone, though they do remain as ghostly references in KITs evergrowing library index files. But it is pretty.. (Version 1.3.6) | |
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 | May 22 2007 |
LEO SPILL I am sure the developer is a great guy and this app to some is a great place to store some odd snippets. But if you want to invest in a piece of software to organize your digital life-flow .Then this is a candy colored child's toy and has all the longevity of yesterday's newspaper news compared to DEVONthink Pro. If you are purchasing for a child, Then try KIT. If on the other hand you want a real application that can grow with your needs then this will not satisfy you. (Version 1.3.5) | |
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 | May 22 2007 |
HILLJ Yes, DevonThink Pro is great. I've been using it and its predecessor for years...but KIT, on quick, first impression, can serve a different purpose. I'm pretty sure that I will continue to use both. KIT is much faster for quickly accessing regularly used information, for temporarily storing a file, a folder, an image, whatever, that you are using regularly in a current project or need to check back to fairly frequently. I consider DT Pro to be more of a place for long-term reference material and for scholarly research. For quick snippets it can feel like using a battleship when all you want is a canoe. | |
 | May 25 2007 |
LEV "A is better than B because B is for kiddies", eh? Meaning? Reasons? (Version 1.3.6) | |
 | May 25 2007 |
LEO SPILL Lev - If you can't figure it out - Maybe you need some tuition - I can't do that for you but maybe this will help a little. A is better than B because B is limited in scale ( what you can put into it ) and tools ( What you can do with that information when it's in there and how you get it in there in the first place ) If that is too abstract then... B is fast food and will leave you hungry 5 minutes after consumption and A is not only a fine meal but will keep you full no matter what size you grow. A may not look as sweat as B but is lean and the healthy, nutritional alternative. A=ad infinitum... (Version 1.3.6) | |
 | May 27 2007 |
CED Leo Spill - What an arrogant way of answering. And I do not think you are right. First, DevonThink uses its own database, and stores all the files in the database. this has several implications : - If the database is getting corrupted, you loose all the files stored inside. - The database is not able to store any type of files unlike KIT. - Nobody can say what future is, and if Devon Techologies will support its products longer than Reinvented Software. (Version 1.3.6) | |
 | Apr 17 2007 |
STUARTEA I'm moving to this app from that rather simple app: noted (not quite enough features). Only things I'd like to see on first used is the ability to edit notes in the display window, rather than having to open another window to edit it in (this seems pointless). and, notes etc displayed via a collapsable hierarchal view in the left pane window. (Version 1.3.3) | |
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 | Mar 10 2007 |
ALEX KADIS I believe that one of the advantages for moving the files instead of placing them in a database is to avoid any possible data corruption. It is especially nice for thinking to the future, if say in 5 years KIT no longer exists, you can still access all of your files, no problem. (Version 1.3.2) | |
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 | Apr 17 2007 |
STUARTEA You also don't have to move your files, instead just linking to them (via the preferences). I prefer it not to copy my documents and just link instead. (Version 1.3.3) | |
 | Apr 24 2007 |
JFM You are right about the fact that documents should not be kept captive, since one does never know if an application will exist forever. But I see it from another angle: provided an application allows for export of its entire content (including its structure), then it is fine. I don't know how it is with KIT, but I use DEvon Think Pro, and exporting the content of a folder or of an entire database is not a problem. This is actually one of the reasons why I chose it. (Version 1.3.4) | |
 | Sep 16 2006 |
LKM I've tried all of the Mac Snippet Keepers: MacJournal, Devon Note, Stickies, StickyBrain, Circus Ponies Notebook, Yojimbo, xPad, some Notebook Widgets... You name it, I've tried it. I even bought some of these, but never could bring myself to actually use them for more than a day. I even started thinking about writing my own Snippet Keeper. Taking a page out of the book of the iTunes organization scheme is a great idea. Using KIT just feels right. You automatically get organization by type, and you can add your own folder organization to it (note: hierarchical organization is not supported. That's okay with me since I like simplicity, but some people might mind). You can easily add notes, flies and links by drag-and-drop or by one of the other mechanisms for adding snippets - for example, the dock menu or a Service (although I would like some kind of global shortcut to show a simple "add note" screen). The interface is very clean and nice to look at, with beautiful icons and a nice, Mail.app like layout. Everything looks and feels very "Mac-like." The application is fast and stable. It has never crashed on me, and I never had to wait on it (although its reliance on Spotlight means that after you add a snippet to KIT, it takes a few seconds until it shows up in search results). Each file or snippet is stored as an individual file in your file system, which is an awesome idea. It means that Spotlight can find your stuff, and even more important, if you ever have any kind of trouble with KIT or access your data from a computer which doesn't have KIT, everything is still right there. Furthermore, when backing up, you only back up new or changed things, never the whole database of files and snippets. One annoyance which may be showstoppers for some people: It doesn't support encryption. You can, however, tell KIT to store your data on an encrypted disk image. Finally, the developer replies to mail very quickly (within a day in my case) and will listen to what you say (he implemented two of my suggestions for the next release of the application, which appeared within days of my mail). All in all, this is a fast, stable, intuitive snippet keeper which doesn't cost as much as some of its competitors, but provides everything most people need and makes it a joy to keep snippets. Definitely check out this application if you're looking for a snippet keeper, even if the other apps didn't work for you. (Version 1.2.4) | |
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 | Sep 8 2006 |
SJK Re: Changes made to try and prevent crashes when certain Input Managers (haxies) are installed. That seems to imply Input Managers can be called haxies, which is false. As the footer on the unsanity.com home page says: The term "Haxie" is a trademark of Unsanity LLC. Most Haxies aren't Input Managers and most Input Managers aren't Haxies. (Version 1.2.3) | |
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 | Oct 16 2006 |
DANA SUTTON Here we have evidence that the brand name "haxie" is acquiring currency as a general term for third-party system mods. of this sort (compare what happened with "Kleenex"). I can see why the good people at Unsanity would hate this -- if somebody else's product works badly, they get blamed -- but it's such a handy word to use (it replaces a whole phrase) that it's almost impossible to resist, and there's nothing in the world that's harder resist than language evolution. In a sense, like the makers of Kleenex, Unsanity ought to feel flattered that there products are so effective that their brand name becomes an all-purpose noun. (Version 1.2.6) | |
 | Mar 3 2005 |
ANONYMOUS It would be nice if KIT actually stored your files in a database rather than moving them to the KIT folder. (Version 1.1.5) | |
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 | Oct 16 2006 |
SWGS1 See Yojimbo (Version 1.2.6) | |
 | Apr 17 2007 |
STUARTEA In the preferences you can choose it to link to the original file or move it. (Version 1.3.3) | |
 | Dec 24 2004 |
ANONYMOUS Nice application with lots of potential but needs some more bells and whistles, esp. subgroups for groups, so that folders and subfolders imported can maintain the file system (right now it flattens all folders) and multiple libraries. Some functions (like displaying files) are handled in NoteTaker. Since I use NoteTaker extensively, I wonder how to make use of the best of both apps. For now, I won't purchase until KIT hasmore sophisticated filing system and library capabilities. (Version 1.1.2) | |
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 | Dec 17 2004 |
A NONY MOUSE The concept of this software is great - if it would work as expected, and if DevonThink PE would not exist. It crashes constantly on me, no matter whether I'm sorting, importing or simply writing a note. You cannot rename imported items as well as there cannot be the same name twice. There are no folder hierarchies. As said, the concept is great and it looks like good software, but KIT simply isn't there yet. I would gladly buy it if it generally would work. (Version 1.1.1) | |
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 | Dec 17 2004 |
STEVE HARRIS Despite my endless hours of testing, KIT doesn't crash and burn for me, which is (strangely) annoying. If anyone experiences these crashes and would be willing to send me their crash logs (from ~/Library/Logs/CrashReporter) I'd be most grateful. The easiest way to do this is to choose Send Feedback from KIT's Help menu, attach the log file and any other useful information. Thanks. (Version 1.1.1) | |
 | Dec 6 2004 |
ANONYMOUS Worth every penny. (Version 1.1.1) | |
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 | Dec 2 2004 |
MAC NEW USER It's a wonderful file organizing software. As a personal computer user, we should have this kind of file management habit so that we can easily access to what ever file we needed. Everybody should have this in their computer. Thus, Mac include this features in their next release. But for those didn't plan to upgrade to 10.4, I propose this is a must in order to keep your file organize. (Version 1.1.1) | |
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