MEDIAVINCI  Hello,

computer did not restart after hitting the "Restart" button. I could only see a black screen after applying the update. Waited a couple of minutes ... except black screen ... nothing.

Bad.

graphically & sincerely,

Marc Klein  
(Version Update 5)

ILGAZ  I think time has come for Oracle/Sun to either take over PPC Java security fixes or send Apple a court order to EXCLUDE Java from PPC machines via software update just like they did to Microsoft in JVM 1.1 ages.

10.4.11 users should disable "java applets" (disable Java in Safari and others) unless Apple ships an update.  
(Version Update 5)

BOUSOZOKU  So far, it seems like sites using Java applets (part of what changed) seem choppy and slow. YouTube was a mess earlier, though I was under the impression that was mostly Adobe Flash.

I'm using Firefox 3.5.2 but I've seen others complain about Safari so apparently, this update was not tested well.  
(Version Update 5)

RPAEGE  Progress is soooo uncooool. Bring back the PPC, OS 9, the floppy disk, and the Newton!  
(Version Update 5)

ESPIRIDION  People using Java based software may want to contact the software developer(s) to confirm that the software will work with this update.

From what I've seen, (for me) so far only Araxis Ketura has been affected:

"We have reason to believe that this update might be incompatible with Ketura and thus render Ketura inoperable...We strongly suggest that, until we can test Ketura with this update, you do not install it on a Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard machine hosting your Ketura server..."

Araxis provide wonderful support so I'm sure they'll get this fixed soon.  
(Version Update 5)

MACFOOL  Update 5 installed via Software Update over 10.5.8 on a Dual G5 without drama with all functions intact.  
(Version Update 5)

CHAOTICPIXEL  Nothing like being left behind because I don't have the money to go out and buy a new computer every 3 years. Thanks Apple for making my bleak finances more obvious. I guess my dual 2, PPC G5 will slowly be faded out along with music tapes, common sense and hope for universal health care. Yippee!  
(Version Update 4)

PHILIP GONIA  I just updated my Intel Dual-Core Mac Mini running OS X 10.5.7 with the Java 10.5 update 3 that I downloaded from the Apple Developer web site. Have the following issues which I thought important to share and which I am still looking for resolution of.

1.) Java not longer runs in either Safari or Fire Fox.

2.) The Default Java version after install is Java 5. (1.5) Not really a problem but when attempting to change via the Java Preferences app, Java remains at this same version.

Still looking for help in correcting this installation or backing it out. This is the first time I have ever had problems with a Java installation on the Mac.  
(Version Update 3)

ESPIRIDION  As a PPC owner, the version of Java that is currently available is just an insult by Apple. Some programs will simply not run on PPC machines, since they require Java 1.6.

The current version for PPC machines is 1.5.0_16.

I can either buy an Intel-based Mac, or a PC. Considering the cost of Apple hardware, a PC seems like the best alternative for my particular situation. I currently have 2 Macs. I won't buy a 3rd Apple computer and reward Apple's arrogance and/or incompetence. (I get the feeling that this comment won't be popular among fanboys)  
(Version Update 3)

ESPIRIDION  So far two programs refuse to work on my system; Consideo Modeler and Quantrix Modeler.

Both seem to require Java 1.6, however the latest Java version for PPC computers is 1.5 and 1.6 is for Intel machines only.

The developers seem to be very responsive, but I don't know whether there's much they can do.  
(Version Update 2)

DGEO  I don't know how Apple does it but they succeeded in what others couldn't do; constrain a seemingly open platform to a single CPU architecture. Maybe it was just strategic movement, maybe they were trying to cut expenses, maybe they had to completely kill PPC because their CPU supplier (Intel) commanded so, maybe it was just programming incompetence. They just look silly to me; JDK1.6 was available in beta for PPC ages ago (both 32bit and 64bit) and x86 Java is universally available in every platform out there (well, almost). I guess if they didn't have to control everything and let Sun do an OSX version things would have been better for all.  
(Version Update 2)

HOFMAN  Why don't the Description and Requirement sections agree? One says it's for Intel and PPC, while the other says it's for Intel only. The fact is, the Description has it right. MU, please fix the Requirement.  
(Version Update 2)

MISHA  Nice--only took about 2.5 months to release this after Sun made it available for other platforms.

The way Apple is working this whole Java thing is really embarrassing. Java was supposed to be a cornerstone of OS X, it's really a second-class citizen.

For those wondering, from what I understand, the reason for the delays between Sun's releases and Apple's OS X release is because Apple's own engineers need to substantially rework and improve the code to make it run at all decently under OS X (and even then the performance isn't up to par with other platforms).   
(Version Update 2)

UMAROMC  To double check version open Terminal.app and type; "java -version"

PEACE!  
(Version Release 6)

HAPPIER NOW  This fixed a number of problems I was having when using Safari with the gay.com java chat system.

Thank you Apple!  
(Version )

RONALD PRICE  Everything here works fine, as it did before the update.  
(Version )

JOHN CLULEY  Sorry forgot to say that as usual I have had no troubles after installing this Apple provided and tested update.Keep up the great work Apple.  
(Version )

YOWSA  Installed with no issues whatever on a 1.5 GHz PowerBook running 10.4.2

No permissions errors found after the install. Also ran DiskWarrior after the install, no errors found.

Since OS X 10.1 (if I remember correctly) Apple has done right by me and my Macs regarding whatever Apple update you care to mention.  
(Version )

PETER  After updating to 10.3.9, java socket "bind"s are failing in one program in particular. I've updated everything and I can't even run this program even if I remove JavaVM.framework. It claims I don't need to update the java. This is a mess, as usual. Anyone know of some solutions?  
(Version 10.3.9)

ANONYMOUS  If Safari keep crashing when you close it, after this update, check to see if you have IGetter installed...then remove it. This fixed my system.  
(Version 10.3.9)

ANONYMOUS  seems every time Apple makes a update they mess something up they should test there programing before releaseing it now they want us to buy Tiger for about $140 ha that's a joke if your going to buy Tiger wait untill they release 10.4.2 or 10.4.3 you know there are going to be security holes in 10.4 and apps will probly have problems for the first few months. but what it comes down to is Appe is just like Microsofe they make claims that htere OS is so great then if there so great why can't they make a simple update that works it's becouse like i said Apple iis just like microsoft they care more about stealing your money for software that always has one problem or another. myself i say Boycott Tiger untill they releast at leas 10.4.2 or 10.4.3 then the OS may be worth running untill then the dummies at apple should spend a little more time looking over there mistakes and trying to make the OS work properly. im sick of then ripping me off for juks that don't work or has a error with many apps. hell if it don't work properly im not paying $140 for it the only reason they can do this is becouse we allow them to so let them keep Tiger untill i see some proof that the OS works with no major errors witch you know there will be a few security updates right away. when you rush development becouse of your Greed it don't make your OS better it just makes people see how quick you are to grab there money and if you need to make updates to a OS use your brain if your going to fix something fix it don't tell me your fixing the OS then cauuse more problems with it thats just plain stupid  
(Version 10.3.9)

BRENT  This gets a 1 all the way across. It's a problem that never should have happened. Kind of like the iSync update screwing my Epox Bluetooth dongle. Since I'm new to the Mac, it took me a while to realize that you should wait a few days to watch everyone else's install pain before actually installing yourself.  
(Version 10.3.9)

FERVID  Well, after trying EVERYTHING, including installing this update. my system still doesn't work... any ideas???!  
(Version 10.3.9)

TOURNESOL  Does this meen I can make a clean install with 10.3.9 and this Java updater, and not need to install security update 2005-002 again?  
(Version 10.3.9)

ANONYMOUS  Does anyone have a solution to my problem? Since upgrading to 10.3.9, everytime I go to quit Safari, the application crashes. It will actually pause for a second or two and then crash as it quits. I've already updated with the latest Java. Are there others out there who are experiencing the same thing. Otherwise no other problems. Thanks  
(Version 10.3.9)

SEBS  well done Apple!! :)

This is the way to solve people's problems...

Not just indicating what to do , how to do it by yourself!

in the same day i posted this issue at macupdate,, the same day Apple's answer was a surprise..

good job  
(Version 10.3.9)

ANONYMOUS  After the update, my computers Java Test score went from 24 seconds, down to 14.32 seconds. Interesting, I was not expecting that to happen.   
(Version 10.3.9)

SETTLE DOWN, BEAVIS   All you people need to calmn the heck down. Its a 200K Java update for Christ's sake. So the guy who was pissed about downloading the 16MB is still on a 2400 baud modem. He has a right to be upset, but not at Apple. You, on the other hand, are one of those Apple fanatics who is convinced that the company can do no wrong. And that's probably cause you smoke reefer. But that is ok too. The point I'm trying to drive here is this: it's Thursday evening and your hanging out on macupdate? arguing in the comments section of a 200K Java Update? Common guys -- even that 13 year old who chimed ironically was the only one to admit he had no idea WTF he was talking about -- it's Miller Time!  
(Version 10.3.9)

ANONYMOUS  You are making no sense at all. In fixing this Java glitch, Apple hasn't charged you a red cent, now has it? If OSX.4 does come out with bugs, you can bet your all that fixes will be published immediately and that they will be free. Always have been, always will.   
(Version 10.3.9)

TOMIS  I had that java problem, I read apples tech note and they said to download security update 5-2 again, 16MB. I did and it fixed the problem. Now they come out with a 200k fix?! That's cool.

I wonder if this is any indication of how apple will treat us with 10.4, oh you so you installed 10.4 and now nothing will run so btw you have to buy it from us again.  
(Version 10.3.9)

JARED SISNEROS  Okay, I tried to install that Applejack thing, hoping to repair whatever was broken. But that installation failed too! What is wrong with my computer? can anyone help me?  
(Version 1.4.2 Update2)

JARED SISNEROS  When I download the package thing,(I'm 13, i don't know much about JAVA). When I start up the installation program, it goes well and all until it just stops when it is close to finishing. "There were errors with installing the software. Please try and install again.". I try to install it over and over (like 42 times!!!) and it still shows the same message. I have a Mac version 10.3.8 running on a mac G3. I want to install the java to play a web game called "Wyvern". (www.cabochon.com), if this info is somewhat relevant to my problem at all. Please help! I need this java to be installed!!!  
(Version 1.4.2 Update2)

ALDOUS MUXLEY  Works as advertised. No glitches.   
(Version 1.4.2 Update2)

ANONYMOUS  Hmm. I'm wondering about things going awol too as the last poster said. Haven't seen anything too untoward yet but I'm a little suspicious.

People say this speeds up LimeWire Launch but I could see no difference at all.  
(Version 1.4.2 Update2)

ANONYMOUS  I'm fairly unhappy after my update. I don't know if I can blame it on the Java 1.4.2, but after installing, I lost all of my IE bookmarks and my keychain is all screwed up.  
(Version 1.4.2 Update2)

ANONYMOUS  Brilliant update my JAVA based chatrooms are now working in realtime instead of waiting upto 10 seconds for my text to appear and the loading times are significantly faster!

As always Apple you show me why I've not regretted sticking with the Mac for 15 years!  
(Version 1.4.2 Update2)

ANDY GROVES  Again/Still forget using Oracle Applications on Safari, I'm still stuck with that damn Microjunk software. - Apple, we love you, truely we do, just please give Safari some support for the hard core business applications. However as the other users say, it does everything it claims.  
(Version 1.4.2 Update2)

HOOV  Everything thing went as expected, as always with Apple udates, no problems. BUT I still cannot get access to my NetBank (nordea.dk) using Safari!!! IE, Netscape etc. can do it just not Safari!!!! Flipping annoying!

Regards

HOOV  
(Version 1.4.2 Update2)

LEIGH MACKAY  A problem free installation. Improved Safari performance. Haven't had the chance to check them all but some sites I had trouble with are now working. :o)  
(Version 1.4.2 Update2)

DARYLF2  No problems here (even TVGuide.com works reasonably well for me).

Performance seems noticeably better, both in web pages that use Java as well as standalone Java applications like ReaderWare and JEdit.  
(Version 1.4.2 Update2)

ANONYMOUS  Can no longer use TV Guide's Listings  
(Version 1.4.2 Update2)

IBOOKER  No issues that I can detect, everything is as advertised...   
(Version 1.4.2 Update2)

LEANDER EYER  Apple really screwed with this update. It contains all lot of bugs that render it incompatilbe to the official Java version from sun. This means many Java Application will no longer run once this update has been applied.

Especially the java classes for the handling of resource bundle (used for internationalization) is damaged severly:

- resource class files can't be loaded any more

- it does not load default resources for unknown locales as specified in the official java versions from sun  
(Version 1.4.2 Update1)

TC  Combined with OS 10.3.5, this solves the problem with some Java apps (e.g. Encyclopedia Britannica) that wouldn't launch (Java application stub error) if you had any fonts turned off in Font Book. About time!  
(Version 1.4.2 Update1)

HAZMAT  Wow, applets in Safari do seem to start up much more quickly. Nice.  
(Version 1.4.2 Update1)

ANONYMOUS  As always a painless update from Apple. But, and it's still a big but, I still cannot access my bank, without using IE. Safari still is blank....... It's a shame but the "Nordea" bank here in Denmark say that their site is now (finally) Mac compatible, yeah sure, if you use IE!!  
(Version 1.4.2 Update1)

ANONYMOUS  This seems to be included as part of the Xcode 1.5 package.  
(Version 1.4.2 Update1)

ANONYMOUS  Another painless update. But since installiing 10.3.5 and now this Java update, my iBook eats about 10MB more RAM when idle (immediately after a restart).

yes, i've run all the usual util's before and after the installation(s)... Apple Disk Utility to repair permissions, OnyX to clear caches, DiskWarrior, RebuildDesktopX... still the iBook is eating more RAM  
(Version 1.4.2 Update1)

ANONYMOUS  Hmm... I tried installing this with Software Update... and it said I needed to install 1.4.1 first... (I'm running 10.3.6) and then I tried d/ling 1.4.1 off of apple's site, but the image wouldn't mount! Codec overflow or something, tried download the file again, made no difference!

Can Someone help?  
(Version 1.4.2)

ANONYMOUS  Chick, Java has nothing to do with running scripts, not even Javascripts.

You may want to look into your browser preferences and activate running scripts (because they may have been deactivated by you as you were looking for... I dont know) and you may also want to disable popup blocking, because that may be what's is preventing you from seeing the results of some of your links.

Just for the record, Panther is a very good OS and Safari is a very good browser (i'm not going overboard here). They both just require some understanding of how they work from the part of the user (like everything else).  
(Version 1.4.2)

CHICK WRITER  I've read through the reviews and comments and all the writers seem to at least know what they're talking about, even when they can't solve the problem. Laugh if you want, but I know nothing about how this computer operates, and the only thing I know about Java is that it's something required for the internet. The problem is, since I upgraded to the worthless, useless, joke they call Panther, none of my browsers, including Explorer and the half-baked Safari (another joke) will run "scripts" or "javascripts." The only reason I even know that is because that's what's in the status bar whenever I try to click on a link and find it won't pull up. It's like it's a dead link, except I see the what it ought to do in the status bar. I never know when I go to a website if I will be able to even get past the home page anymore. I was just trying to get a weather forecast today and couldn't, and I'm sick of it. I am so frustrated I can't believe I'm actually to the point I'm typing a message of HELP ME in "cyberspace" like this. I downloaded both Java Updater 1.4.1 and that didn't help, so then I tried again with 1.4.2. Still didn't help. I went to some Apple website and found out how to check and see if I even had the problem the updaters were supposed to correct (using something called Terminal, which sounded dangerously over my head, but I did it anyway), and then I found out Java is not even the problem. I guess I'm just doomed to be shut off from half the links on the internet now. I've been a loyal Apple customer for years but the next time I upgrade I'm leaving because this is just STUPID; the whole reason I use a Mac is because I don't want to have to know how to program computers, and Macs are supposed to be EASY. I thought the software update was supposed to take care of all this updating without me having to worry over it.

Also, just for the record, I HATE PANTHER. If you haven't upgarded, DON'T!   
(Version 1.4.2)

ANONYMOUS  The URL for the Panther version of 1.4.1 is: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120274  
(Version 1.4.2)

ANONYMOUS  I had the same problem upgrading from 1.4.1 to 1.4.2. MacFixit had the answer on their site. If you upgraded to 1.4.1 under Jaguar, then you have the wrong version of Java. Apparently there is a Jaguar version of Java 1.4.1, which is different than the Panther version of Java 1.4.1. Confusing!

Apple has an updater for Java that will get you from Java 1.4.1 for Jaguar to Java 1.4.1 for Panther at . Once you have installed the Panther version of 1.4.1 you can run the 1.4.2 updater.  
(Version 1.4.2)

ANONYMOUS  Why, when I've just installed Java 1.4.1 successfully, does the computer not let me install Java 1.4.2. Help please. How can I fix this?  
(Version 1.4.2)

ANONYMOUS  Has anyone else had the following problem with this update:

I had my Jaguar Mac up to date with upgrades, running 10.2.8 with Java 1.4.1. I recently decided to upgrade to Panther, but when I tried to upgrade Java to 1.4.2 it stopped me saying that I needed to upgrade Java to 1.4.1. To be sure, I then installed the Panther Java 1.4.1 download from the Apple website, but still no joy.

Not a desparate problem, but I like to keep my mac up to date - Thanks  
(Version 1.4.2)

PANTHERORROT  No problems... another smooth update as usual (for me, anyway... and that includes 10.2.8... Apple updates/upgrades have not bit me since Mac OS 9.0 came out) and OS 10.3.2 is just a pleasure to use, so much better than Jaguar.   
(Version 1.4.2)

BOB_WEINER  updated smoothly using Software Update on both a Dual 2GHz G5 (home) and single 1.8 G5 (work) without any issues whatsoever.   
(Version 1.4.2)

UMAROMC  Nice n smooth:

java version "1.4.2_03"

Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_03-117.1)

Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2-34, mixed mode)  
(Version 1.4.2)

ANONYMOUS  No problems so far...lets keep it that way.  
(Version 1.4.2)

GUARDIAN ARCHON  I, too, am receiving an invalid checksum error. Not sure what the deal is. I did manage to find out that you don't need this if you installed 10.3 cleanly, but I didn't, which is why it doesn't show up in every Software Update. And the software update download corrupts as well. Not sure what to do about that.  
(Version 1.4.1)

CILLY  1. Why does this update not show up in software updated?

2. In Panther 7C107 java -version says alread: java version "1.4.1_01"

Very confusing...  
(Version 1.4.1)

LINKSTER82  Maybe it's just me, but I don't see much improvement after installing this release. Speed is slightly improved, but compatibility with windows based java code, which should be entirely the same, does not cross over. Yohoho! Puzzle Pirates, created by Three Rings Design, still does not work properly. I hope Apple has big plans for their work-in-progress 1.4.2 implementation, because this is pathetic.  
(Version 1.4.1)

ANONYMOUS  Getting "Invalid Checksum" error when attempting to mount Disk Image (43,014,519 bytes). Anyone else?  
(Version 1.4.1)

ANONYMOUS  Why didn't this show up in my 10.3.1's Software Update? Is it really a new version?  
(Version 1.4.1)

ANONYMOUS  After installing, Britannica 2004 does not run (inexpectly quits)  
(Version 1.4.1)

EJI  I wish I could say that I noticed some sort of improvement in performance or stability, but I can't quite tell exactly what this update did. It took longer to optimise my system than to install. And my German Javascript prompts (umlauts, for example) are still buggy.  
(Version 1.4.1)