MAREK  I bought Saft some time ago (it was 'Saft for Tiger' then) and was not using it much. Now I wanted to use it on my new Snow Leopard system, so I paid for upgrade ($8). But I still can't register my demo of 'Saft for Snow Leopard', because Li Hao allows me to download 'Saft for Leopard' license only! To get newest version I HAVE TO UPGRADE AGAIN (another $8, which makes "UPGRADE" $1 more expensive than buying FULL LICENSE ($15).

I asked Li Hao about that, but he just ignores my emails. Now I am trying to get refund from PayPal.

I highly recommend 'Glims' and "Glimmer Blocker' duo to get full Saft replacement FOR FREE!

Eat my five bucks, Li Hao!  
(Version 12.0.2)

MISTERE  Another happy switcher here. I installed Glims when I upgraded to SL (10.6) and haven't looked back. You've killed the goose that laid the golden eggs Hao Li. Bye.  
(Version 12.0.2)

DONPERREAULT  Glims is free, tired of Saft developer charging for every single Safari upgrade. I've paid my fair share of upgrade fee's to the Saft Developer. I've moved on!  
(Version 12.0.2)

GBBOB  Do not download this piece of crap. If you do, you will not be able to fully delete it. It is a damn haxie that attaches a piece of itself to a part of Safari. As I wrote earlier once you delete it, it will bring up a dialog box asking you to put Saft back in the app, folder and it also then stops your home page from loading even after you click the OK button. When Safai 4.0.4 came out I thought it would solve the problem based on what I read in the Saft help. It did not. Still every time I open Safari I get that damn box and my home page does not load. This prick of a programmer gives us no way to fully uninstall Saft. Several updates have come out since my first comment and still no uninstaller. What kind of person is this that makes a utility with no off key. The only reason I can get from all this is that the programmer is using the dialog box to annoy the user to the point that they pay for the crap he is shoving up our butts. Well, sadly I am unemployed and not well and need the money for more important things. I curse this coward for not supplying a way to get rid of this trash. I urge people to boycott Saft and use the free utility Glims that basically does that the same as Saft. End of Line...  
(Version 12.0.2)

KERNELG  I have used and recommended Saft for years. While hesitant, I sprung for the upgrade to the Snow Leopard version when it was finally out of beta. This was a mistake.

With Glims now available for free, the only reason I wanted to get Saft back on my system was ad blocking. I am tired of seeing the same damned "I got ripped in 4 weeks" and countless Internet dating ads. I also had many years of carefully selected ad blocking patterns built up. Why am I so disappointed?

Saft ad blocking no longer works properly.

Oh, it works if you try to load a single image directly. You'll get a Safari dialog which describes how the image could not be loaded because Saft blocked the URL based on a given pattern. But there the ad sits in the middle of a web page, displayed as normal. This occurs through refresh, re-launch, cache reset, Saft settings wipe, and even a full Safari reset. As a Saft user for years, I know how it's supposed to work and it does not. For the record, this is with the SIMBL plug-in install, running Safari in 64 bit mode. (The other methods cripple Safari, and are not an option.)

Why not just report this to the developer? Because I have reported issues and asked questions in the past and I've learned that you may, or may not, get a reply weeks later, and it will rarely be more than one sentence which may, or may not, be relevant to the topic. In other words, the message is now "go away." Message received.

I would no longer recommend paying for Saft. Good luck navigating his web site if you wanted to. If you don't need ad blocking, definitely go with Glims for free.  
(Version 12.0.1)

DONPERREAULT  It appears many have switched to the free Glims, myself included. Developer milked us for every dollar and many are fed up. LOVE GLIMS  
(Version 12.0.1)

BONOBO  I'd registered Saft quite some time ago, and for sure I've also upgraded every time Hao Li wanted us to upgrade which meant upgrade everytime Mac OS X was upgraded (10.3->10.4->10.5).

But now I'm fed up. EVERY TIME Safari got a minor update we had to wait for a new version of Saft, where Hao Li often only had to enable Saft for this version number (as some brave people had proved by hacking Saft's prefs file or something), this making us far too dependent on Hao Li.

Now I'm happily using Glims http://www.machangout.com/ which can do almost everything Saft can (and Glims is catching up FAST) plus quite a few other things.

So, Hao Li, it was *relatively* nice while it lasted: Though Saft was great, your communication and update policy was, uhm, let me say "suboptimal".

I'm splitting, I've found another love. Thanks and bye.  
(Version 12.0.0)

MISTERSQUID  SAFT is bad software.  
(Version 12.0.0)

GBBOB  I have used and reviewed many utilities over the years and saft is the worst in implementation. First there is no read me file to tell you anything about the program, how to install, and what it installs once it is implemented within Safari. When I got to the end of the trial period, I decided not to keep it since I was using Glims and it did basically the same as Saft. So I took the app and trashed it and allowed clean app to locate any related files. The next time I launched Safari, I got a dialog box saying Saft is missing and ask me to reinstall the app. What I did not understand was why am I getting such a box if i deleted it. So I went into my archive folder found my original copy of Saft and booted the app. That was when I finally found the help for it. After going through the help, I discovered that Saft is a damn HAXIE. When it launches with Safari for the first time it places hooks into some component of Safari and there is no way to remove these pieces even if you do a reinstall of Safari which I tried. So now every time I launch Safari I first have to wait for the box to come up, click on OK and then Safari will load but I have to hit the damn OK button before Safari will load completely. Even in the help notes there are no information on how to uninstall Saft because you can't fully do. So either you buy or get use to that annoying box. You do not write a utility that cannot be fully uninstalled or have a script to remove all the parts. To me this author is nothing but a schmuck and a shyster and we all should boycot Saft and use Glims. END OF LINE...  
(Version 12.0b5)

DTRUETT1  I tested it out and I'd pay the $12 for just the shortcuts. Went to the developer's site, hit the PayPal button and... $15.

Possibly MUD's fault, not them.  
(Version 12.0b5)

DEFUNCT  Basically in short:

Saft used to be great, and alsmot in a league of its own.

No really exciting new functions have been added, the developer insists on charging us for EVERY upgrade, when all he does to get it to work with new versions of safari is edit a line in a .plist (ok, the 64bit version probably did require work and i would pay for that...but all the rest? come on!)

Another bonus is the developers insistence on being entirely uncommunicative, basically, if you pay, dont expect mich in return expect emials saying "this new version is out, please pay XX dollars to upgrade" - thanks for that.

So, after many years of relative happiness (all this aside, saft does what it does very well), i have ditched saft got Glims working in 64 bit Safari, its free, its great, i can talk to the developers (they actually run it like a project! communicate! inform us!) - i wont ever look back, but will thank Saft for a number of happy years.

p.s there are other alternatives - SafatiStand etc - check out http://pimpmysafari.com/  
(Version 12.0b5)

JAYCE  Both the MacUpdate link and the link at the developer's web site download an outdated version of Saft. This is not likely to entice new users to this application.  
(Version 12.0b4)

PHILMAC  If there were notable new features, I would pay to upgrade, as I have in the past. But all that's happened is a switch to 64-bit.

Now, I know that is not necessarily a simple task. At the same time, though, I can't bring myself to fork over more cash for the same user-experience — especially not when there is a free alternative.

I'll keep an eye out to see if Saft evolves: I don't mind paying for functionality. (Textarea backup, for example, would be nice.) In short: the developer needs to get creative again!  
(Version 12.0b4)

APIKOROS  I too have used Saft for years. I too will not pay a third time for essentially the same utility. I too will use Glims with Snow Leopard (and will donate to its authors).  
(Version 12.0b4)

PROGRAMHAPPY  "Saft quit unexpectedly."

This is the final straw. Horrible product, from administration and licensing through functionality and updates.  
(Version 12.0b4)

PLASTERPYRUS  Horrible, horrible, horrible, I think this guy is just out to make money anyway he can! I bought this last year and had a heck of a time registring this application then, when I bought this it was for leopard even though he update it for Tiger also so it shouldn't matter which version I was using, Well, it still is a mess to register and it's impossible to download a working version of the application. The way he has this set up everytime I try to get the version for Tiger his site gives me a error message that says try the registration window. Well that does not work either and I've tried to contact him about the problem but three times I've written without a response. So even though I've bought a license I am going to have to de-install the application because I can't get support of any kind.   
(Version 12.0b4)

ROWSDOWER  This version won't open on my MacBook. "Saft quit unexpectedly."

I can't find a link to the previous version. Any help?  
(Version 12.0b4)

FRANKOF  I've been a loyal SAFT user for many years now, paid three times for "updates" after upgrading the OS. I have seen this program grow for some time, and then - nothing. It has not added features ever since Leopard came out, it even lost features that were present in Tiger, such as blocking GIF animation. Every little update of Safari killed Saft; and not for a real reason. In fact it just checked the Safari version against the version stated in the saft plist, and refused to start if it was higher. No wonder Saft was "updated" so fast every time: the developer usually just changed a single string in the plist (one that everyone could have done) and voila, he appeared "responsive". He is NOT. I have contacted the developer several times, with feature suggestions and bug reports - not a single time he bothered to reply. This utterly arrogant and disturbing attitude upset me more than once.

Now, after upgrading to Snow Leopard, he wants me to pay a fourth time. Let me say it very clearly: FORGET IT! No added features, not even 64bit support, none of the useful features I had suggested years back. I might have considered upgrading for some nominal upgrade fee, if it was an upgrade. It is not. It is the attempt to rip-off customers that paid for this software for years. This f*cking s*cks.

This guy definitely lost me as a customer for good. I have moved on to Glims without a single look back.

(btw: the Glims developers are really nice guys - I found a bug, reported it, and got a reply almost instantly. I know they care; they do without asking for money. And you know what: I'll pay them a donation twice the price of Saft as soon as it is running flawlessly)  
(Version 12.0b3)

GURUBEZ  Incredible...to get Money only for working on SnowLeopard....

I git Glims!!!

IT HAS GOT THE SAME FEATURES BUT ITS FREE!!  
(Version 12.0b3)

BELOVEDRA  WARNING! BUYER BEWARE!

I have registered this software in June 2009, and after I installed Snow Leopard on Sept 1st, the Saft license stopped working. Why? Because there is a new Snow Leopard specific UPDATE! Since when should an update be paid for, especially when I got less than 3 months' use out of the software? Most normal software vendors provide a reasonable free upgrade window!

I tried contacting the developer several times, and in the space of a month I got 1 (yes, just one) reply, and even that was a curt one. The only solution I was given was to pay for a new license!

It seems like this guy is shamelessly trying to make a fast buck out of his users. And it is not just me who is saying this. If you do a search you will find that this has been said before, not just by me (see other software sites with user reviews).  
(Version 12.0b2)

ROBOTANK  Well, it looks like Saft has beaten Glims in publicly releasing a version that supports 64-bit Safari (though Glims has had pre-release builds, accessible through their Facebook fan page, with 64-bit support available for a couple weeks). However, I think that Saft's developer needs to add new features or otherwise provide a substantial reason to choose (and pay for) Saft over Glims. Otherwise, people will continue to drop Saft for Glims--since their functionality is very similar and Glims is free--especially when a paid Saft upgrade comes out that doesn't offer new features. I simply can't see any motivation to pay for the Snow Leopard Saft update when a Glims update is right around the corner.  
(Version 12.0b2)

DROOPYSIGNAL  Does Saft actually work as a plugin or do you still have to launch the Saft Agent, which then loads Safari. Really, Glims can do for free with most of Saft's features! I've purchased a license and an upgrade and was satisfied until the lack of support for 64 bit Safari as a plugin and not an agent that launches Safari with Saft.  
(Version 12.0b2)

ROBERTCOOGAN  Seems from the comments in Glims that a lot of prior Saft users are switching. Makes sense, since Glims does the same thing and is free.  
(Version 12.0b)

FLEC65  $15 for the Snow Leopard upgrade? I used and enjoyed Saft since Panther, but this asking price makes me seriously consider the competition for the first time.

I understand the need for the developer to earn money for its work, but he should have consider two things in my opininon:

1. A lower price for the upgrade for existing customers. Full price should be for new Saft users only.

2. Saft is a plugin for a free software on an operating system that cost $29.  
(Version 12.0b)

ROBERTCOOGAN2  Still not functional under Snow Leopard. Tried restarting and nothing.  
(Version 12.0b)

JGROVE  Well the fact that Saft's creator hasnt bothered to answer some of these posts sums it up for me. He/She obviously doesnt care too much abouts customers. So Glims it is.  
(Version 12.0b)

MANICHE  If the developer does not rethink his upgrade policy for registered users of v. 11, I've decided to switch to Glims as soon as I will use Snow Leopard. That's it. A shame.  
(Version 12.0b)

CHMORLEY  I have been a fan of Saft for some time now, having paid for it twice. I will not pay a third time for a minor update. I understand the developer did new work to get this to function with Snow Leopard. New users of the product may find it worth the fee. I, however, will not pay for an update that provides functionality delivered elsewhere for free.

I am looking forward to getting away from the cumbersome upgrade process, as well.  
(Version 12.0b)

PSYCHOS  While I have enjoyed Saft in the past, I must agree with those who are not willing to pay for an upgrade to support Snow Leopard. Consider that Apple is only charging $29 for Leopard users to upgrade to Snow Leopard; this is because Apple is smart enough to know that people won't pay much more since most of the features are under the hood.

Similarly, upgrading Saft appears to provide NO new functionality, past being compatible with Snow Leopard (and in 32-bit mode, which is much smaller of an update than the upgrade to support Safari 4.0.) If there were more major changes to Saft, possibly even just 64-bit support, I would consider paying to upgrade. If there was a new major version of Safari that Saft had to be overhauled to support, I would consider paying to upgrade.

The developer has been very good in the past about quickly updating Saft to work with Safari updates. Unfortunately, this does not seem to be the case, since there's no timeline provided for 64-bit Safari support. I have to echo those who note that, while the updates are quick, the licensing/download system is sometimes confounding.

If the developer wishes to provide a fairly priced upgrade, say $3 - $5 ($3 being the price difference between Saft for Leopard and Saft for Snow Leopard), along with 64-bit support, I will be happy to upgrade. Until then, it seems that Glims has been adding more and more features since I last compared it to Saft, thus with them promising 64-bit support soon, I will switch if that materializes.  
(Version 12.0b)

ROBOTANK  Like many others, I have a Saft licence from Leopard and won't be paying to a Snow Leopard one. I switched to Glims months ago anyway, both because I prefer it and because I was sick of Saft's ridiculous and convoluted update process. In any case, charging for a plugin that only works in 32-bit Safari is ridiculous. The current Glims build will work in 32-bit mode without the need to pay anything, and the developers say they're close to getting it working for 64-bit. I'm no expert on what's happened with InputManagers in Snow Leopard, but apps that used to rely on InputManagers, like 1Password and Speed Download, have found a way to get their plugins into 64-bit Safari, so we know it can be done. Until Saft's developer figures out the same, he has no business charing for an upgrade.  
(Version 12.0b)

ZEPHYRIS  I have used saft for a long time and swapped to glims a few months ago. Saft constantly crashed and never worked and now he wants more money for a beta. Save your hard earned money for better software.   
(Version 12.0b)

LDAWSON  Been with SAFT from the beginning. I take it for granted and realize how much I rely on it when it's not available for a time after an OS or Safari update. I'll pay for an upgrade to SAFT as long as it works with 64-bit Safari. Paying for this 'upgrade' and then having to run Safari in 32-bit when I've paid for the other upgrades doesn't make sense. If I have to leave SAFT behind, that's what I'll do and move forward with Safari. Bummer!  
(Version 12.0b)

PETIEG  I'm simply going to wait for the freeware Glims to have SL support.. i paid for Saft years ago, and dev wanted to pay for an update to Leopard and that was the last straw...   
(Version 12.0b)

BONOBO  What a pity.

- Developer wants a new license payment

- Saft Snow Leopard Beta makes my Safari hang

- 32-bit only? WTF?

I once was a big fan of this software but now, I think, it's time to move on.  
(Version 12.0b)

GURUBEZ  Its incredible!!!

To pay for 32 Bit??

NEVER!!!

Here another lost customer!!

@ All

Try out iCab....same + Lots mire features than Safari +Glims+Pithhelmet+Glims and RUNS 64Bit!!!!!  
(Version 12.0b)

BNEW  Folks...Saft can't work under Snow Leopard the way it has in the past because Apple removed Input Managers from all 64 bit apps. It's not a question of the developer building Saft as a 64 bit plugin (in fact, Safari has no plugin API at all). It's that how Saft worked in the past as an Input Manager no longer exists for 64 bit apps. Hence the 32 bit mode requirement.  
(Version 12.0b)

MUFAN99  Developer needs to re-think current Snow Leopard strategy before he loses all his customers!

Yep, another unhappy Saft user here.  
(Version 12.0b)

FOTODIVR  Well, I have been a S(h)aft user since day one and have aways been happy with the results. I have even waited for the updates before updating Safari but this is the last straw.

To have to pay to use it in 32 bit for Snow Leopard is ludicrous. The developer should be ashamed! (and it doesn't even work properly with Safari in Snow Leopard at 32 bit)!

This is the best reason to switch to GLIM - Hmmmm - free and is not a SIMBL hack - and it works. 64 bit to come quickly (check out the GLIM comments here on MU).

And GLIM is more versatile. Nuf said.

I will remove S(h)aft from all of our computers (and I paid for licenses for all of them!) and no longer have this POS on my watch list.   
(Version 12.0b)

W0LT  Don't these developers get the same Snow Leopard beta's that everyone else does, then we have to hamstring Safari in 32 bit mode? Not me, I'll wait, and maybe do without.  
(Version 12.0b)

MICHAELFUCHS  You want me to pay full price for an update that is a 32bit beta version? Time to learn to live without Saft, I think...  
(Version 12.0b)

DROOPYSIGNAL  Only 32 bit and it won't accept my Leopard license I purchased, even though the website claims it would be valid. I could understand paying if Saft was 64 bit, but nope, nada, and waiting...  
(Version 12.0b)

PROGRAMHAPPY  "Invalid license file."

WRONG.  
(Version 12.0b)

SAI  mighty mouse scroll ball function not work after installing saft for snow leopard  
(Version 12.0b)

MGLAMB  Has anyone got this to update successfully? I'm getting the "improperly signed" error as well...  
(Version 11.0.3)

MITCH_DE  PROBLEM at updating:

Error at end of the update process

"The update is improperly signed."

?  
(Version 11.0.3)

MACSOLU  "Show Sidebar" does not work (for me) in this particular version. Everything else seems to be functioning.  
(Version 11.0.2)

W0LT  11.0.2 Doesn't seem to work any way for me even after trashing the previous Saft Input Manager  
(Version 11.0.2)

MIBRILANE  Doesn't seem to work with the Safari 4.0.2 that is part of the Mac OS X 10.5.8 update.  
(Version 11.0.1)

RIDOGI  The automatically saved tabs are worth the price of admission alone, along with tons of customizations. This makes Safari the best browser available. Updates are always available within about a day of Safari updates.   
(Version 11.0.1)

DRDUL  Wow! So many complaints that every Safari update breaks Saft. That's to be expected. The same thing happens with other apps that hack Safari, like 1Password. It's no big deal. Wait a day before installing the latest Safari update, and by then Saft (and 1Password and others) will have been updated. IMO it's an negligible inconvenience given the essential functionality that Saft adds to Safari. Every once in a while I use Safari on a Mac that doesn't have Saft installed, and it's no fun at all. Saft is an excellent app, it is rock solid, and updates are delivered within 24 hours of a new Safari version. I can't ask for anything more.  
(Version 11.0.1)

KIDCLAM  I haven't even tried out Saft yet, but on the same minute it was installed it already asked for money. So I trashed the application yet it is still asking me to install Saft upon opening Safari with an annoying Pop up window. Way to go. If you don't pay it becomes a Spam software.

So how do I uninstall?  
(Version 11.0b (5530.18))

LARRY R  This software is useful when it works but it breaks for every new version of Safari which means each time you have to wait for an update and then when you find one you have to reinstall. Takes too much attention and time. It is just not worth it. I give up.   
(Version 11.0b (5530.17))

DAN BUCHAN  Another Safari update....another error that Saft can't load because of the new version. Can there be any way around this for future versions of Saft? A simple x.x.1 update of Safari can't be that major that Saft can't operate, can it? *Should* it?  
(Version 11.0b (5530.17))

PSYCHOS  There are a few other pretty good free addons of this type (e.g., Glims), but none of them seem to do quite what Saft does as well as it does, and $12 is quite reasonable for how much time it's saved me with shortcut searches, ad/popup blocking, and some tab stuff.

The developer is extremely responsive, which is always important for any sort of paid software; the new version to fix compatibility with the final version of Safari 4.0 came out within a couple hours of the Safari update.

My one wishlist item would be the ability to remap menu items (e.g., I personally remap keys by editing the MainMenu.nib: Quit to Opt-Cmd-Q, Print to Opt-Cmd-P so I don't accidentally trigger one of those, and left/right tab to Cmd-[ and Cmd-]. Every few updates of Safari, the MainMenu.nib gets replaced and I have to remap these again.)  
(Version 11.0b (5530.17))

SCHMIEGEL  Beta 3807 (Demo) freezes my Mac completely if I use the custom search-engines via the context-menu.(Safari 4 5528.17/ PPC G4/10.5.7)  
(Version 11.0b (3807))

ROBERTCOOGAN  Still no fix for 5528.17.

...?  
(Version 11.0b (3807))

PSYCHOS  Safari 4 Beta 5528.17 that came out alongside 10.5.7 doesn't seem to work with the latest Saft. I have a feeling that the developer will quite likely fix this in the next few hours as usual (kudos to him for being so quick with updates!), but if anyone knows how to force it to load (if it will) that'd be useful. (Can't find the Safari version string in the Saft files, etc.)  
(Version 11.0)

APPLESPECIALIST  Best Safari add-on - period.  
(Version 11.0)

CYBORG9  When I launch Safari 4 beta with Saft installed, my set home page does not appear, just a blank page. Problem solved when I uninstalled Saft.  
(Version 11.0)

CUNEYT  Developer did you thought about Safari 4 for Tiger users (10.4.11)?? please update.  
(Version 11.0)

ANONYMOUS  Works perfectly with Safari 4.Thanks Hao Li... and adios Safari 3.  
(Version 11.0)

LARSEN2K4  Thanks for the update... works like a champ with Safari 4 :)  
(Version 11.0)

CLARUSAD  Not supporting Tiger & PPC machines !

Other developpers still do it (Apple first, with Safari 4).  
(Version 10.5.7)

THERMIDOR  I loved Saft when I began using it a few years ago. Loved it, used it, couldn't do without it for the few days after each Safari update. Then, somehow, it got harder to figure out how to get Saft updates. Dead links, self-referring link loops, vague terminology that left things more confusing than ever...

I had to repeatedly email the developer just to find where I needed to go. Like others commenting here, I was informed my email address wasn't valid. After emailing the developer, I would receive some ultra-brief reply with a link that would would magically work one time and one time only. Eventually, no reply came, and I realized I was getting angry at just the thought of spending more attention and time trying to contact the guy.

This was all so I could get ONE convenient function not provided by other programs: the "Add Bookmark Here" add-on at the bottom of each bookmark menu.

How many programs are able to update without these insane runarounds? It's clearly not that hard to do. Yet this guy has created this nearly impenetrable system of hoops and challenges, completely backward and needlessly frustrating for hundreds of people.

I now use Glims. I uninstalled Saft a few months ago, and just did without the Add Bookmark Here function. Now I notice the Glims team has incorporated that as well. Thank God. Now Saft is merely a magnificent negative example, showing how to totally screw up something that actually worked well. Good riddance.  
(Version 10.5.6)

VERYCARLA  Shows a blank page when "Block Ad Banners" is enabled. Disabling the option restores normal functionality. I assume it's not meant to do that. I have Saft set as a Safari launcher; could that be the problem?  
(Version 10.5.6)

FOTODIVR  tried glims - as you call it - and it was too indiscriminate as to what it filtered.

Saft is much easier to train

I'll stick with Saft.

It usually only takes me three minutes to update Saft. Just follow the developer's instructions - a novel idea, aye!  
(Version 10.5.6)

BRUSETH  Even though I have the latest version of Safari —> V.3.2(5525.26.12), and the latest version of Saft —>V.10.5.5, I still get an error message saying —> The current version of Safari (v5525.26.12) is not supported, so Saft is not loaded!

When I run Saft to ‘update,’ it tells me that I have (and indeed I do) the latest version.

Anybody know what I'm doing wrong? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. I miss having this fine program running on my computer.  
(Version 10.5.5)

LUCIANO1  Used Saft for many time, but now had passed to Glims.

Everytime there's a new release of Safari, I must remember BEFORE to install that Saft won't work... Must wait for the update, reinstall it, dl Safari, write down all my open windows urls, ad install Safari, and cross my fingers that everything will work fine!

What a headache!

Last time spent more than two hours installing Saft cos for some strange reason Safari didn't load it!

I'm really disappointed!

Passed to Glims. Has almost all the features of Saft, and even more, and it's free, and don't have to update it everytime you want to install a minor update of Safari.

Try it out...  
(Version 10.5.5)

FYREFLYE  AdSubtract.css used as a style sheet eliminates ads more thoroughly than Saft, is free, and works with Safari nightlies, Camino, and OmniWeb too.  
(Version 10.5.5)

ZX  This latest update didn't work for me...safari won't open any windows!  
(Version 10.5.5)

MACSOLU  Not compatible with Safari 3.2

This is not surprising. Expect the developer to address this ASAP.  
(Version 10.5.4)

XENEX  I've been a paid Saft user for years now, but I'm incredibly disappointed with the unreliable licensing system and inability to contact the developer.

The license file download page at http://haoli.dnsalias.com/account has been down for weeks now, with a "symfony 500 Internal Server Error" error. I attempted to email the developer about the issue, so I visited the contact page at http://haoli.dnsalias.com/contact - and it has the same error message.

So, here I am hoping the dev reads MacUpdate: Hey, can you fix your website?!  
(Version 10.5.4)

SYHARRIS  When I'm in full screen mode I can't access my dock but I can't get back to max screen mode because "max screen" is dimmed in Safari's drop down menu.

Anyway, I 'd like to uninstall Saft but there's no uninstall function with the Saft download.

Can't use EasyFind (which is what I want to do to) to delete Saft's files.

When selecting all of Saft's 33 files in EasyFind the files then become deselected when trying to trash or destroy them. (Have never encountered this anomaly before in EasyFind).

Went to Saft developer's website but can't find any contact info there.

HELP!  
(Version 10.5.4)

SYHARRIS  I installed Saft 9.0.9 for my Safari 3.1.2 and OS 10.4.11 and Safari was rendered dead in the water, totally unusable.

Anyone else?

After uninstalling Saft Safari worked, once again, but was slow. I then reinstalled Safari 3.1.2, and Safari returned to its lively self once again.

Just before installing Saft, I had installed Glims which worked fine with Safari. Dunno if the Glims/Saft combo itself caused the problem, but I've now got Glims reinstalled and Safari works fine.  
(Version 10.5.4)

TOMECK  Still doesn't work for me--Safari doesn't display any image if I have Saft installed.

I have reported this problem to the developer months ago but I never got any response.  
(Version 10.5.3)

TRUSTME  2 developer:

Replace MacUpdate search link in shortcuts

with this one - http://www.macupdate.com/search.php?keywords=%@&starget=google  
(Version 10.5.2)

NUKEGLUS  For the developer: could you implement a feature that adds thumbnails to Google search results? It would be awesome!  
(Version 10.5.2)

JELLYBELLY  The only feature I use is the CMD+Z to reopen accidentally closed tabs.

Is there a workaround for this without using Saft? Perhaps another plugin?  
(Version 10.5.2)

FZP  Where is the version for Tiger and Safari 3.1.2?  
(Version 10.5.2)

LARSEN2K4  Great! I've been using Saft for several months now, but the new anti-phishing option is great. *thumbs up*  
(Version 10.5)

ROBERT COOGAN  Something has been broken with the most recent update - banner ads and animation are no longer blocked. Not sure why, this has happened on both a MacBook Pro and an iMac G5.   
(Version 10.0.8)

RONIN_1  I, too, bought it during the recent promo.

Frankly, I can not understand what all the fuss is about it. It does not do much at all that is of any use other than, perhaps, block some pop-ups. I do not think it is worth half the price.

It somehow or other managed to uninstall itself which saved me the trouble.

Good bye and good riddance.  
(Version 10.0.8)

SURPHAZE  I got really (!) annoyed with the support.

The app is great and I'd love it if I could use it.

But the paranoic approach of the registering system is an impertinence of the other kind. Especially regarding that you can have a free alternative with Safari Stand and the prize of Saft is rather cheap.

With each update of Safari (this time from 3.1 to 3.11), Saft refuses to work completely. My update Code doesn't work for days, the Website tells me, my account doesn't exist (my email is definitely right) and blocks the login for quite some time (paranoid). So I end up missing features I have just implemented in my daily workflow.

The developer hasn't responded to any of my email requests.

I think I'm gonna switch back to Safari Stand..

It's a cool tool but with this kind of ridiculous "copy protection" and support, it's just completely useless. I highly recommend everyone NOT to buy it as long as the developer doesn't change that system.

V  
(Version 10.0.8)

DR FIERCE  I have used SAFT since Panther. At first it was useful, but now many of the features in Leopard have made it redundant. Moreover, every update to Safari results in an error message which really slows down my aging powerbook.

I tried to update and the code I used previously does not work. I unistalled it with AppZapper and I hope it works. This has become a major annoyance.   
(Version 10.0.7)

MEMPHISBIRD  I bought Saft on March 7 on a MacUpdate Promo. Since then, there have been two updates -- which is good -- and I haven't been able to download either of them -- which is bad -- because the download code I was sent by the developer isn't working. Two emails to developer requesting help have garnered no response. I thought I was getting a good deal for $5.99 on the promo, but it's not a good deal if I get nothing for it. I think I'll take my $5.99 back, please, and donate it to the SafariStand people.  
(Version 10.0.7)

RICHCASTILLO  This is a very RUDE app.

Very difficult to completely uninstall.

No uninstall app.

No uninstall info on ReadMe or web FAQ.

Developer's email not immediately obvious on website.

I trashed it but now every time launching Safari, a dialog appears asking me to reinstall saft.app

Nothing named saft found in Activity Monitor.

I'm mad! Almost mad enough to review this with one star but I'll wait and see if somebody can tell me how to get rid of this annoyance.  
(Version 10.0.5)

ZX  Please add support for WEbKit!!!  
(Version 10.0.5)

DWETTE  I am using Saft 10.0.5 (1038) with Safari 3.0.4 (5523.15) on Leopard 10.5.2

Every time I restart Safari, plugins are disabled and I have to go into the Safari Security prefs pane to recheck "Enable plug-ins". If I remove Saft I do not have that problem anymore.  
(Version 10.0.5)

CHRIS FAM  Safari would perform faster without Saft. Really.  
(Version 10.0.5)

MIKAELF  Got a new password from the Developer. Upgrade works fine.

Happy again:-)

/Mikael  
(Version 10.0.5)

MIKAELF  Download is broken (I can't login. The same login worked fine for the last upgrade) for the latest upgrade and the developer is not responding.

SUCKS!!!!!

/Mikael  
(Version 10.0.5)

STEVEN GOODHEART  I've seen a few complaints, here and over at VersionTracker, about Saft, and I wanted put a good word in on Saft's behalf as a very happy user.

First, this update for the new version of Safari came out one day after the 10.5.2 update -- not too shabby, and I will admit, much better than some of the older versions.

Second, the developer does have an "interesting" way to do updates, but for me, it's worked like a charm. I go to:

http://haoli.dnsalias.com/ld/d.php?saft_leopard

and Safari autofills the email and the order number that I got when I bought Saft. (Before I click download, I disable SpeedDownload in the Safari Integration preference tab, so that Safari downloads the file. The download page at haoli tells how to do this.)

After the download, I put the application in my application folder, double-click, and Saft does it's Input Manager thing, and I'm done. Couldn't be easier.

Third, I have never found it hard to contact the developer and get a timely response.

Fourth, the features, people, the features! Saft plains rocks. I have become totally reliant upon it's auto-tab save, crash protection, and especially its ability to save and name browser windows with any name you want, and then open these saved windows and tabs later (very similar to OmiWeb's Workspaces.) And there are literally dozen's of other cool and very useful features.

If you run Saft, with SafariStand (some feature redundancies here) and Concierge, you have incredible ease of use and power at your finger tips. No wonder sites like Pimp My Safari have raved about Saft.

Finally, I have no relationship to this developer, but simply want to say that I find Saft indispensable, and the fact that there's an upgrade out the very next day after the 10.5.2 Leopard update speaks very well about this developer. My 2 bits.  
(Version 10.0.5)

SLICKAPPS  Don't bother with this one. After having paid for the newest release, it is impossible to download. The developers download page does not work and hasn't for a few months. Good software. It is just too hard to actually lay your hands on it.  
(Version 10.0.4)

PWORCESTER  How unfortunate that SAFT breaks with 10.5.2 beta and there is absolutely NO WAY to report this to the developer.

It's unfortunate this has possibilities but there isn't even an email address on the SAFT site to contact them with.

Oh well I guess it will be one of those wait and see games....  
(Version 10.0.4)

PROGRAMHAPPY  Saft's download page for registered users (http://haoli.dnsalias.com/ld/d.php?saft_tiger) is not working properly. It's telling me that the email address and transaction ID that I have used for upgrading since 2005 are suddenly invalid. Hah?  
(Version 10.0.4)

PROFINITE  Apple Security Update Security Update 2007-009 brings Safari to v3.0.4 (5523.10.6). And, it kills Saft v10.0.3. :-(  
(Version 10.0.3)

DOC.  Don't buy this it's not worth the trouble of dealing with the developer!

1000 people develop a new dock app but no one takes this idea and makes some tweaks so we can pay a kind and caring developer.  
(Version 10.0.3)

RI  Where are the preferences for SAFT ?  
(Version 10.0.2)

BJ00RN  The Saft for Leopard upgrade price and inconvenient upgrade process led me directly to throwing Saft out of my system and downloading Firefox and using Firefox extention instead, which is cheaper (free..) and more customizable option overall in my opinion.  
(Version 10.0.2)

XYZ043  Let's see. I originally paid $12 for the Tiger version. I had to pay another $6 to "upgrade" to the Leopard version.

Since I "upgraded my account to Leopard" I'd have to purchase the Tiger version again for $12.

I'm sorry, I don't mind paying for software, but this is back door rip off. Very uncool.   
(Version 10.0.2)

BEN_MARKO  No, it installs itself as a demo, not a registered version.  
(Version 10.0.2)

CORPSECORPS  I can't comment on Kiosk mode because i haven't tried it and don't have need for it.

Having shortcuts and ad blocking on Safari is great.

Other features aren't bad either. Simple interface, too.

.  
(Version 10.0.2)

DASZA77  I first started to use this program as a demo, because I was looking for something what would improve the use of Safari. I specially appreciate the remembering of open windows/tabs feature and all the ad-blocking. So what the lazy guys at Apple could not implement - Hao Li did with a great success. Additionally he always answers my e-mails and is very supportive and friendly.

Usually I avoid shareware or commercial software but this is different - money well spent!

Keep up the good work!  
(Version 10.0.2)

GCOGHILL  FYI, the Saft homepage is very confusing - it appears outdated, and has no info on version numbers, compatability etc.; however…

Instead go the the Download page [currently here: http://haoli.dnsalias.com/Saft/Download/index.html]

Here you'll find plenty of Saft versions for all flavors of Safari, from Tiger 2.04, Tiger Safari 3 beta, & final, Leopard, etc.

Had I known this, I would have demoed the beta of Safari a while back.  
(Version 10.0.2)

JOBBY  Installed the demo on Leopard - now I can't use CTRL+number to switch between Spaces, even when Safari is not the focused app. It seems Saft is somehow eating this keystroke globally.

The "jump to bookmark bar item" feature is useful, but I switch between spaces a LOT, and don't want to use a different key shortcut for that. Please can we have an option to have Saft use a different shortcut, and to only have it absorb that shortcut when Safari has focus?

Also I can no longer drag tabs between windows, like I could before installing Saft. I know it provided draggable tabs in Safari 2, but could it be made to not interfere with Safari 3's tab-dragging code?  
(Version 10.0.1)

PROGRAMHAPPY  Where is the update to make Saft work with 10.4.11? Why does the creator not respond to emails? This is a PAID product!  
(Version 10.0.1)

DJC0  So is this actually "Saft for Leopard", or "Saft for Safari 3"? If the former, then where is the latter for those of us who haven't upgraded yet?

The developers website gives a Tiger version that is not compatible with the latest Safari "system update" version.  
(Version 10.0.1)

WNP  Same problem here with Saft Leopard. I paid the update but it is unstable, make Safari hang and impossible to print. M. Hao Li do not answered my email.

Another annoying thing is that Saft has to be launched as an application to launch Safari. The problem is that if you open an URL from another application, it launch Safari without Saft.  
(Version 10.0.1)

PHFACTOR  I have tried to upgrade to this version of Saft. Previous versions have worked wonderfully and been an essential add-in for Safari.

Sad to say, I have had nothing but trouble with this latest "Leopard" compatible version of Saft. Firstly, the account and password directions at the website are confusing, downright wrong as a matter of fact. I was unable to use my earlier Paypal transaction ID as requested. After two days of emails with Hao Li, it turned out that the system took my Saft registration number instead of my Paypal transaction ID. This is not specified at all on the site.

Secondly, once I had the updated software, it just plain didn't work. Safari comes up with either a menu bar only, or a menubar and a partial window that is a blank grey topped by the bookmarks bar. There is no button/address area or window title area.

Thirdly, I have written about this to Mr. Hao Li (after having mentioned it in the forums) and have received absolutely no answer.

While the pre-Leopard versions of Saft have behaved well, this release, and Mr. Hao Li's response, have been extremely disappointing.  
(Version 10.0.1)

RMNL  For me Saft is an essential plugin for Safari. And it was after discovering it, that I switched from the sluggish Firefox to the faster Safari.

The most important feature I use, are the URL shortcuts, which allow you to use the location bar for more purposes than addresses only. Overall it make you faster and more productive. Another useful feature is the Kiosk mode. Saft is good value for money and support is fast. I send two emails when I experienced problems after the switch from Tiger to Leopard and both were answered within a few hours. Well done!  
(Version 10.0.1)

ROY VAN DER WONING  Purchased an upgrade from Saft Tiger to Leopard, but am unable to download it because the site does not recognize my account info. Sent mail to developer: no response.  
(Version 10.0.1)

BEN_MARKO  How do I upgrade if I've already bought Saft 10? There is no link on the developer's page like for Saft for Tiger...  
(Version 10.0.1)

MEATMCGUFFIN  If you're having problems with Safari crashing when it starts up, try removing the SIMBL plugin from the 'inputManagers' folder in your library  
(Version 10.0.1)

SERGE   Many thanks !  
(Version 10.0.1)

BENR  10.0.1 (on Leopard, installed as Input Manager) breaks Safari's Downloads window. Tested on a G5 dual and a PowerBook 12". Anyone else seeing this?  
(Version 10.0.1)

SERGE   Is there anynone who can tell me if people who already use Tiger version of Saft have to pay full price for the Leopard version upgrade. I tried to contact the developper, but the email bounced back.

P.-S. Sorry for the bad English  
(Version 10.0.1)

DWETTE  I really like Saft, but why is it so hard all the time to get a copy I registered for? Nine times out of ten I cannot connect to the download site, so actually getting my copy is more luck than anything. I appreciate that you need to protect your property, but to be fair I find it very frustrating that I pay for it, but am unable to download it without a lot of effort trying retrying your website. That makes the product more expensive in terms of my time. I've now given up trying to download the latest release.

Why don't you just freely distribute it as a limited demo and use a registration id enabling scheme, like most everyone else does for software. Then other sites could distribute it.  
(Version 10.0.1)

ARTAXX  Great PlugIn, but it's worth nothing when the server is 95% unreachable. That's not the way how to treat paying customers!!!!!  
(Version 10.0.1)

ALEX B  The developer has squashed some bugs, the new version now comes in both plugin and separate app forms in one package, and Safari no longer crashes randomly.

Good stuff. Love the added functionality and it's worth the cash.

The plugin interface is brilliant, even if I still think the debug option placement in Saft makes no sense.

Installation has always been simple as running an application and now it comes in an even simpler form.  
(Version 10.0.1)

PROFTOURNESOL  Saft 10 freezes Safari 3 when I'm attempting to print to my network connected laser printer.  
(Version 10)

BEN_MARKO  Still the gold standard for Safari plug-ins. Well worth the money.

With this new version the flash blocker is only 50% effective (on both an iMac G5 and a MacBook Pro). But I am sure that it will be fixed for future versions.

Thank you, Hao Li!  
(Version 10)

GRR74  Bloody brilliant. This is a plugin I paid more than happily for! My only gripe is with Leopard that has turned a plugin into a launcher...  
(Version 10)

JAN4  To ALEX B, I just received an email from Hao Li as a respons to my emailrequest to make Saft work like an InputManager again. That was just a few hours after my email, so he is reachable ;-)

He answered that the next version of Saft would work as a InputManager again. Good news!

So no worries, just a bit of patience.

Kind regards, Jan  
(Version 10)

OTTONOMY  Almost didn't upgrade to Leopard when I found out Saft might be killed by Apple's decision to rid the OS of input managers. I'm so glad I was wrong. I can't live without Saft. When I use someone else's Mac, I feel like I'm using a retarded, incomplete version of Safari. Automatically saved browser sessions are at the top of my list. Always opening new browser windows in a new tab instead. PDF export as a single, unbroken page. Zooming all browser windows to max. So many other features I don't notice till they're gone!  
(Version 10)

ALEX B  The developer replied back, finally, and is working on everything I had a grievance with bug wise. If you upgrade, you can no longer download the previous versions.

The plugin is still an invaluable part of my arsenal that I can't seem to live without. Why these features aren't standard in Safari is beyond my comprehension.  
(Version 10)

SPEUMANES  Same registration problem here.

Saw that SAFT is now also available for 10.5

I went to the upgrade page and upgrade. Now the $6 went to Hao Li but I can't get the new Version because I'm not in Hao Li's Database. Very curious! Now I stay here without the program and the send Mail to him are staying in "deliver" Status. Nice, very nice. Other Authors made standard replying mails if they are away. Let's see if there is something doing after this weekend (3. - 4.11.2007).  
(Version 10)

ALEX B  The launcher idea is terrible. How is it supposed to work harmoniously with other plugins that use the same idea. Terrible.

It also has some bugs. My Downloads window won't let me clear it after I download one file. The window won't show any new downloads being downloaded, though they do download even though it's not visible.

The developer is in no where land. I don't know if he has some life thing going on, but multiple e-mails, bug e-mails and so on, go unacknowledged.

Once you upgrade to the Leopard version, you lose the ability to download the Tiger and Tiger for Safari 3 versions. Since I wanted to try to make the tiger version work through that file edit, I couldn't download a copy. Now I have to find an illegal copy (that technically isn't illegal for me since I purchased a license) to download it and use it again since who the heck knows where the dev is.

That said, it's the original Saft, just in external launcher form for Leopard. Can't live without it now, so I gotta make do.

Seems like this developer is following the same suite as the TastyApps developers who made FLVR and RedSnapper. What a shame. Terrible customer support on both parts.

I want more features and my requests go unanswered. I even offer up ways to make it happen not just "give me what I want" requests. Like why is the Debug menu option hidden in some hidden menu to enable a hidden menu? It makes no sense. Not only that, the debug menu turns off at the next restart so you have to go to the hidden menu to turn it back on? This should be a permanent on/off option within the Saft preference pane. Completely asinine.  
(Version 10)

JLUKAS  You can get Saft for Leopard to load through SIMBL, so you don't have to use the launcher.

1. Download and install SIMBL (http://www.culater.net/software/SIMBL/SIMBL.php)

2. Copy Saft.bundle (in the Saft application) to the following path (creating the folders if needed):

/Library/Application Support/SIMBL/Plugins

3. Ctrl-click on Saft.bundle and select Show Package Contents

4. Open Contents/Info.plist in your favorite text editor

5. Add the following segment of text just before the final

SIMBLTargetApplications

BundleIdentifier

com.apple.Safari

MaxBundleVersion

5523

MinBundleVersion

5523

RequiredFrameworks

BundleIdentifier

com.apple.WebKit

BundlePath

/System/Library/Frameworks/WebKit.framework

TargetApplicationPath

/Applications/Safari.app

6. Save the file. Restart Safari. If the Safari menu contains About Saft, it worked! Enjoy.  
(Version 10)

DAVERMONT  I really missed Saft for the first three days after installing Leopard. The program improves Safari in so many ways it's amazing. The best feature for me is the shortcuts; to search MacUpdate for saft I simply type: mu saft

Having the Enter key be a shortcut for the Next link on a page is a big timesaver as well. I only wish it would work on links that *start* with Next, as many sites use Next Page, or Next >>, which Saft ignores.

I used to use the autosave tabs a lot, but not so much anymore. Some people will find that handy.

The ad filtering isn't as sophisticated as PithHelmet, but it does a decent job. Saving a web page as a single PDF page is handy sometimes (print as PDF still saves a multipage PDF when you need that). Auto-hiding the downloads window is another nice feature. Downloaded files contain the URL of the web page in their Comments field, making it handy to go back to that page if you need to.

Again, lots of useful improvements to Safari, well worth the $12 price.   
(Version 10)

RICHARD HALLAS  The version I get when I download the disc image of the registered copy (not the demo) is the previous Tiger version, not the new Leopard-compatible one. Hence it doesn't work for me yet.  
(Version 10)

ALAN  i've got saft for tiger. is the upgrade to saft for leopard free?

cheers  
(Version 10)

CORPSECORPS  I can't get SAFT or any other input managers to work under either 'Plugsuit' or the latest SIMBL.  
(Version 9.0b6)

CORPSECORPS  LEOPARD DAY!

Does this work with the version of Safari in Leopard?  
(Version 9.0b6)

YOXI  After updating the 'supported Safari version' in terminal as suggested below, Safari will not launch at all while Saft is present.  
(Version 9.0b6)

YOXI  Saft won't load in 10.4.10 on my mbp with Safari 3.0.3 (522.12.1)  
(Version 9.0b6)

TROGGY  The two latest versions (9.0b5 and 9.0b6) have broken the "check spelling as you type" function in Safari for me. Uninstalling Saft restores it. That's a deal breaker for me.  
(Version 9.0b6)

F451  I'm just thankful that PithHelmet came back online to address Safari 3. I did use IWEDLER little hack to make Saft work, but Saft has other issues with some of its features. I prefer PithHelmet over Saft's ad blocker, but I like the other miscellaneous Saft features beyond ad blocking.  
(Version 9.0b4)

DANNOTDAN  IWEDLER's tip worked for me...thank you!  
(Version 9.0b4)

IWEDLER  open a Terminal window and type

"defaults write /Library/InputManagers/Saft/Saft.bundle/Contents/Info SaftSupportedSafariBuild -array-add 522.12.1"

without quotes

522.12.1 is the latest build of safari(3.0.3).

Saft 9.0b4 works with this version after doing this.

don't forget to get the newest version ... ASAP  
(Version 9.0b4)