STORMY1083  About my last post...

I did not got to Snow leopard. I did a regular update to OS X 10.5.8 (if this is the same I will feel sheepish for saying something but I don't thing they are the same)

Stormy1083  
(Version 1.53)

STORMY1083  Hi,

This plugin worked for as long as I have had it installed. As far as I can tell the information is correct in the mail app, but after doing a routine update it stopped. It gives me a message saying it is forbidden to connect to my hotmail account. This happened about 3 or 4 days ago.

I anyone else experiencing this problem? How do I fix it? I can't say much other than It was updated, restarted and turned off for the night. The next morning it wouldn't connect. My other mail accounts are working just fine.

Help is needed and very appreciated.

Stormy1083  
(Version 1.53)

HAMADAY2K  Hey Daniel thank you for the plug inn i don't you if you noticed that with snow leopard the plug inn is not working i hope you can get this fixed as u always do

I love this plug in so i hope you can fix it for us

thanks alot  
(Version 1.53)

ANONYMOUS  Many thanks to Daniel for maintaining this freeware for us for so long! He can finally let it rest, because the plugin is no longer necessary.

Microsoft has finally, at long last, made POP3 access available for all hotmail accounts (even free ones). Instructions can be found at http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20090407112314693  
(Version 1.53)

JAYYOO  Hi, Im having trouble installing this application. I cant seem to find

HTTPMail in picking acccount type. I only have POP, IMAP, and Exchange listed.

I tried to close my mac mail and relaunch after installing (the application said i installed successfully).

What am i doing wrong? I know you must get tonnes of emails, but im a little slow. Do I also have to upgrade to hotmail plus?

I am running with Mac OS 10.5.6

Thanks.  
(Version 1.53)

HANK AT HAMSOFT ENGINEERING  Thanks! Once again I'm working with no problems on 10.5.6. It couldn't be any easier.  
(Version 1.53)

AKANICO  Plug is working without any problem on 10.5.6 and installation is as simple as double clicking the icon.

Only thing that bothers me is not being able to delete messages on the server, tried to 'erase deleted messages' like it is told in the FAQ but they keep coming back when syncing with hotmail account.

Nice to get the mails and everything but too bad can't delete them.

Useless to me for that matter...  
(Version 1.53)

KHANNIBAL  MacOS 10.5.6 supported and it works great ! :-)

A bit slow, but at least, I can recover my e-mails from Hotmail ! Thanks ! :-)  
(Version 1.53)

2SHAE  I meant to say that it DOES NOT work.  
(Version 1.52)

2SHAE  1.52 Doesn't fails to retrieve mail with the latest version of Windows Live Mail.  
(Version 1.52)

CANDICE PAPPERT  I have had HTTPMail for a few months now on the Leopard system and everything seemed to be working just fine and now I can't receive any emails. I can send outgoing messages but I'm not getting anything. Does anyone have any ideas????  
(Version 1.52)

TIMOTHY SMITH  from sourceforge

As of June 30th 2008, my plugin will cease to function as Microsoft has decided to terminate HTTPMail (also known as WebDav) protocol access. They have replaced this protocol has been replaced by a new one called DeltaSync. Unfortunately DeltaSync is undocumented and uses non-standard compression and encryption of message data. Until these issues can be resolved there is nothing I can do to fix my plugin.

If you have a Hotmail Plus account you should still be able to access your mail using the POP3 protocol. The details for setting up POP3 access is as follows.

Incoming mail server: pop3.live.com (port 995)

Outgoing mail server: smtp.live.com (port 25)

Username: your full hotmail email address

NOTE: the outgoing mail server requires authentication   
(Version 1.51)

HAMADAY2K  i just update to OS X 10.5.3

and suddenly my mail is not getting hotmail account emails while the other accounts r working properly

any one have the same problem   
(Version 1.51)

NIKISKI  I found sometimes deleted items are not properly synchronized. After deleting an item it occasionally reappears in my Inbox. It gets the job done but this little quirk is quite annoying. I'm using Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.2, with no other Mail.app add-ons.  
(Version 1.51)

TEKL  Can this only be used with Hotmail? Or is Lycos supported too?  
(Version 1.51)

BOCABOY  I've used this plug-in for about a year and have suddenly encountered a problem where none of my e-mail is readable. The only thing I see are the headers but there is no message content.

Additionally, the "synchronize" command doesn't seem to behave the way you might think. It only seems to synchronize Inbox, Deleted Items and Sent Items. Subfolders are ignored.

I have asked for help twice on these issues from the developer but have gotten no response.  
(Version 1.51)

TUSK  For me it's a short & sweet '..Unable to find host..' error next to my mac mail inbox. Failed at the first hurdle !  
(Version 1.51)

CHAMELEO  I have the same problem as the poster below. I have a "Windows Live Hotmail" account - but it keeps asking me to upgrade to one.

Any suggestions?  
(Version 1.51)

RORYK1  Just installed it to get my hotmail account on my mac mail, but im through to the main window and it wont connect. When I try and connect it says

"Could not connect to 'Hotmail Account'

Access to Hotmail via Outlook and Outlook Express now requires a subscription. Please sign up at http://join.msn.com/general/Email"

But the address gets redirected to a general hotmail page and I can't get to any subscription.

Any ideas what I can do?  
(Version 1.51)

XUXUMATU  the software used to worked fine, but here in mexico the main provider (telmex) on internet services closed port 25 does any one knows how to reopen or use another port  
(Version 1.51)

KVM14  I am still unsure of how to set up my mail account with this software. I downloaded it and still cannot access my hotmail account with it. any tips on what to fill in on the preferences on the mail account. I'm a brand new mac user. Still getting used to all the changes!  
(Version 1.51)

NYORKER1111  Excellent Software! It worked like magic and before I knew it I was getting my emails from MSN, even though I did not upgrade to the Premium account! I am glad as I feel I have given enough money to MS over the 30 years I have been into computers! Thanks!   
(Version 1.51)

THAISD  thanks for helping me install the mail thank thank you! number 1!  
(Version 1.50)

SILVASURFER  Excellent software! Worked flawlessly with a new MacBook and a 9 year old hotmail account updated to hotmail live. Good documentation and ease of use. Upcoming two way synchronisation will make it even better and a few other features would easily make me pay for this. Well done to the developer and many thanks for the Leopard update.   
(Version 1.50)

D|DUMOND  Tried this for the first time and it gives me an error telling me I need a subscription!

I've had my hotmail account for over 10 years now and when I got to upgrade to Hotmail Plus (Windows Live™

?), it brings me to my inbox which means I must already have it.

I know Hotmail did this thing awhile back where you had to start paying to access your mail through an email client... Is that still the case?

Does everyone whom this works for, do you all have a paid subscription through Hotmail?

There no mention about having to have a paid subscription in the documentation if this is the case.

If anyone has any insight on this could you please let me know?

Thanks!  
(Version 1.50)

TIMOTHY SMITH  anyone use macfreepop?

it does hotmail in leopard  
(Version 1.49)

HAMADA_Y2K  we need a new version for leopard it is not compatible with the new mail in leopard

Thanks in advance  
(Version 1.49)

CINGHIALINO  please develop a Leopard version soon!  
(Version 1.49)

ROBBY!  HTTPMail is not working anymore. It reports "Forbidden" every time it tries to connect to MSN.

Does any one knows if MS Hotmail has changed any rules lately? Any fix?

HTTP worked fine for me for more than a year. No feed back at all at developer's site.

Thanks.   
(Version 1.49)

CHADWITHUHC  it wont work for me either. i think it only works with hotmail plus accounts...  
(Version 1.49)

MARK EVERITT  Still works fine for me. I've just installed it on a fresh system and it works on that too.  
(Version 1.49)

SMPDIGITAL  I worked well for me for at least a year, then suddenly it stopped working about a month ago, looks like microsoft has changed something with the introduction of live mail, so don't bother downloading it, it won't work anyway.   
(Version 1.49)

WOLF3175  I can't seem to get this to work at all. can anyone provide instructions for getting this to work. thanks  
(Version 1.49)

LITHOS  how did you do this ? i cant.

my system : imac g.5 2.0 ghz 10.4.8 tiger  
(Version 1.49)

HARSHEY  This is an great product. Took some configuring but works very nicely with hotmail.

When I logged in the first time I had 200+ messages and they were downloaded without breaking a sweat. Some of them even had attachments.

The best thing I like about it is that it can synchronize with hotmail as if it were an IMAP account.  
(Version 1.49)

DAWG4GSUS  First, I'd like to thank and complement the developer. I love having this plug-in!

Just a warning to those on the Intel Macs...this plug-in will eat a lot of RAM in it's current release. I have 1 gig of RAM and I was running tortuously slow.

Normally, I leave my Hotmail accounts online all of the time. Now, I simply take the Hotmail accounts "offline" until I want to devote a few minutes to downloading those emails into Mail. While Hotmail is "offline" everything is back to normal (near blazing) speed!  
(Version 1.49)

PHOTEK  Used this for a few years now and it has always work flawlessly for me. The developer deserves alot of thanks for not only producing one of the best bits of freeware for OSX.... but also supplying it for free!  
(Version 1.49)

THE_MM  we need an intel mac version ! There's no alternative !  
(Version 1.48)

DEEDAS  Everything was working perfect until 10.4.7 came along. The Mail app just hangs after start up, sometimes it'll let me scroll up and down but that's about all I can do. I don't have any other plug-ins for Mail so I don't think I'm being too quick to point the finger at this plug-in.

I'm on a 1.5ghz PB G4, anyone else having this problem? I'm going to go use one of my webmail accounts to write an email to the developer inquiring about this problem. I should have probably done that first, oh well. At least you all know that there might be a problem when upgrading to 10.4.7 and should proceed with caution.   
(Version 1.48)

WITHAPLOMB  does anyone know if this woks on the intel macs?  
(Version 1.48)

MOZART11  Anyone get this to work in Apple Mail. OS 10.4.6.

All I get is error when trying to get hotmail. my hotmail account is about 2 yrs ole or more.  
(Version 1.48)

TIMOTHY SMITH  In 2 years we all will be force to go to Windows Live email from hotmail! 2GB storage bu no free POP.

Has anyone tried MacFreePop

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/20695

I use this for my yahoo!  
(Version 1.48)

GTHOM  Forwarded from Mike Abdullah

>

>That is MSN's policy. If you want non webmail

>access to your account, you have to pay them.

>

>However, they used to offer this service for

>free, so when the conditions changed, anyone

>who had used this feature was allowed to

>keep it for free.

>

>Rather reasonable I think. So basically, if you

>want non-webmail access to a new account,

>go with a proper provider, not Hotmail.

>

Open requests for adding Yahoo functions have been attached to this project at sourceforge since 6/2004. Gmail functionality was requested later that same year.

Other web mails alternatives may never come.  
(Version 1.48)

MACMEND.COM  anyone got an answer to this msn upgrade question??  
(Version 1.47a)

GTHOM  Tried to log into a new account and ran into an error that seemed to suggest that remote access to Hotmail required an MSN upgrade. My old account still works, but the new one has never accessed Hotmail.

Any ideas anyone?  
(Version 1.47a)

ALKSDFJ  If you are having this error: mail doesn't load page

automatically, or you lost hotmail account, or mail.app stalls when finding mail, or won't quit, do this

find this file: person.djlp.mail.plist

usually in: Library/preferences/person.djlp.mail.plist

open file with text editor, and change this line from:

(key)Check For Updates(/key)(true/)

To:

(key)Check For Updates(/key)(false/)

then save.

restart mail.app. this should fix your problem.

Then make sure automatically check for updates is not checked in the preferences. If Daniel's server is down, this will cause the httpmail app to hang because it's looking for the update. Then you can't quit or change preferences etc.

MOD: Please delete other versions of this tip, as important parts of the code were deleted.

Cheers.  
(Version 1.47a)

ALKSDFJ  If you are having this error: mail doesn't load page

automatically, or you lost hotmail account, or mail.app stalls when finding mail, or won't quit, do this

find this file: person.djlp.mail.plist

usually in: Library/preferences/person.djlp.mail.plist

open file with text editor, and change this line from:

(key)Check For Updates(/key) To:

(key)Check For Updates(/key)

then save.

restart mail.app. this should fix your problem.

Then make sure automatically check for updates is not checked in the preferences. If Daniel's server is down, this will cause the httpmail app to hang because it's looking for the update. Then you can't quit or change preferences etc.

Cheers.  
(Version 1.47a)

ALKSDFJ  If you are having this error: httpmail used to work, but suddenly doesn't load page automatically, or you lost hotmail account, or mail.app stalls when finding mail, or won't quit, do this

find this file: person.djlp.mail.plist

usually in: Library/preferences/person.djlp.mail.plist

open file with text editor, and change this line from:

Check For Updates

To:

Check For Updates

then save.

restart mail.app. this should fix your problem.

Then make sure automatically check for updates is not checked in the preferences. If Daniel's server is down, this will cause the httpmail app to hang because it's looking for the update. Then you can't quit or change preferences etc.

Cheers.  
(Version 1.47a)

MAUIWILLIE  I have been running the HTTPMAIL plugin for about 2 years now. When I went to Tiger, I had to update the release of HTTPMAIL.

There is one major problem that I have with the product. Contrary to some of the writeups on this product, I cannot seem to get the Email from an HTTPMAIL account to go through my MAIL 2.0 filters. The rules work for mail in my POP3 accounts, but do not trigger when the mail is from my Httpmail accounts. Because of this, the only Spam control that I have is via the Hotmail Spam software which is very limited in it's capability. Hotmail cannot handle Chinese characters in the Subject line for SPAM. Is one example of why Hotmail spam software is limited.   
(Version 1.46a)

ANONYMOUS  This does not work on my iMac G5 2.0ghz.

Bummer too because I loved it on my old iMac G4.

All I get now is a null connection and the buttons are all greyed out except "cancel".

Maybe someone can help.  
(Version 1.46a)

YAPLU  Excellent plug-in

It works for me with netscape mail !  
(Version 1.46a)

ANONYMOUS  This error occurs and causes mail to hang upon quit also it does not show the message window upon startup.

===============================

2005-08-02 14:42:50.403 Mail[315] Installing HTTPMail Preferences panel

2005-08-02 14:42:50.404 Mail[315] Installing HTTPMail Account Setup Assistant

2005-08-02 14:42:50.469 Mail[315] enabling global exception handler

2005-08-02 14:42:50.469 Mail[315] Daniels httpmail plugin loaded

2005-08-02 14:42:50.469 Mail[315] Checking OS version

2005-08-02 14:42:50.469 Mail[315] registering account type

2005-08-02 14:42:50.478 Mail[315] registered account type

2005-08-02 14:42:51.069 Mail[315] NSExceptionHandler has recorded the following exception:

Socket Error -- Could not find host: www.automagic-software.com

Stack trace: 0x9638cf10 0x92897bbc 0x017684ac 0x01765ec0 0x0176e220 0x0175b594 0x0175a9e0 0x909ad650 0x909ad2fc 0x909ad1d4 0x9286510c 0x92864e28 0x000e72d0 0x00005a88 0x000e6ce4 0x92887998 0x9075edb0 0x9074b728 0x9074acdc 0x93123be0 0x93123274 0x931230e0 0x9362c1a4 0x9362be68 0x936283cc 0x93718c1c 0x0000310c 0x000a5bd8 0x00000002

2005-08-02 14:42:51.070 Mail[315] *** NSRunLoop ignoring exception 'Could not find host: www.automagic-software.com' that raised during posting of delayed perform with target 4269b0 and selector 'reallyFinishLaunching'  
(Version 1.46a)

ANONYMOUS  tiger is not ok  
(Version 1.46a)

ANONYMOUS  Basically, a great app. One major problem. Every time I restart, I have to reinstall it... Tried repair permissions, dumpin prefs, the whole lot. It has to be reinstalled for some reason.  
(Version 1.46a)

ANONYMOUS  mine manages to download the mail but if i click onto another mail folder when i click back all the hotmail messages cannot be seen ... !@^£$% ! shame as its a great app otherwise :)  
(Version 1.46a)

ANONYMOUS  I'm still using version 1.42d with osx 10.3.9 and it works fine for me. This is with hotmail accounts i created long ago. Recently i tried the plugin with a new created account, it doesn't work. I'd say the dev does a great job and this thing does the best it can. Just that M$ had to mess it up.  
(Version 1.46a)

MICROSOFT SUCK$  Seems to be Micro$oft has decided that hotmail or old msn accounts are no longer free (for "outlook" users) is it safe to assume this still leaves a potential work around if this is coded as entourage? too bad, M$ just wants to flood us with more advertising.  
(Version 1.46a)

ANONYMOUS  mines stopped working as well ! :(...

excellent app otherwise and have got used to using it ,,

now i can see and off my hotmail mail ..

says something like 0 messages with 5 unread !  
(Version 1.46a)

ANONYMOUS  This really sucks, NOT the program but the entire Hotmail thing. I installed the plug-in and configured everything to work correctly, clicked the "Get Mail" button and every account works except the hotmail account. I clicked the error button and received a message saying that I needed to upgrade my account to use Outlook or Outlook Express, screw hotmail.  
(Version 1.46)

ANONYMOUS  Suddenly stopped working in 10.4.1 using msn account. H E L P! Worked for a few days but then stopped picking up new messages.  
(Version 1.45)

ANONYMOUS  Also an error I can't save a local draft in 10.4.1 with httpmail 1.45. Mail reports:

Error

The message could not be saved.

And indeed the draft will not be saved.  
(Version 1.45)

ANONYMOUS  Although the new httpmail works in 10.4.1 (and I'm so glad it does) there is a problem which seems to occur now and again where it keeps downloading the same messages from a hotmail account as if they are unread. This isn't just a Tiger thing it happened in Panther too. I couldn't reproduce it just now, but sometimes between mail sessions, say you download your hotmail, then quit mail, then later on restart mail it will sometimes download all your hotmail emails again not just the new ones.

Anyway thanks for keeping this great app up to date  
(Version 1.45)

JPROKOS  v1.45 works for me in X.4.1. This plug in allows me to use Apples Mail program, otherwise I would stuck using Entourage. Thank you for taking lemons and making lemonade.  
(Version 1.45)

ANONYMOUS  1.45 worked great for me. No problems whatsoever, that is, until I absently upgraded to OS 10.4.1, which had major mail changes (so it seems), and that once again disabled the plugin bundle. I tried reinstalling with no success. Anyway, no big deal I'll just keep checking mail in Panther until more bugs get worked out.  
(Version 1.45)

ANONYMOUS  great app .. been using it for ages and is stable.

thanks for this great hotmail work around !  
(Version 1.45)

ANONYMOUS  why not write your own mail client instead of leeching on apple's?  
(Version 1.45)

ANONYMOUS  Got is working thatnks to anothers tip. However, is anyone experiencing continuous hard drive accessing with Mial running with 1.45? If I quit Mail or uninstall the bundles it goes away.   
(Version 1.45)

ANONYMOUS  This still does not work with Tiger  
(Version 1.45)

HTTPBOY  This is the BEST freeware for OSX, developer is worth his weight in gold!  
(Version 1.45)

ANONYMOUS  Dumping it and reinstalling fixed it under 10.4.1. Great tip, thanks.  
(Version 1.44)

F+  This is how to make it work with 10.41:

http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1285427&forum_id=255104

:)   
(Version 1.44)

ANONYMOUS  i love this plug-in, couldn't wait for it to be released but...

the preferences i am choosing reset themselves once I close the window, for instance when i want to 'mark downloaded mail as read the setting stays at 'don't change anything'. This won't let me store sent email.

Would love any suggestions, thanks  
(Version 1.44)

ANONYMOUS  what shall be the incoming mail server address?

I had tried to type services.msn.com:usrname into the blank, but it seems not to work.

any ideas?

ps. need also the outgoing address...

thx  
(Version 1.44)

ANONYMOUS  I loved this before but now it doesn't seem to work at all. I currently have an empty inbox in mail depsite having three new unread messages in hotmail. The connection monitor shows an active connection to the hotmail server. I'm sure this has simply been my error but am interested to know if anyone has had the same problem and successfully resolved it?   
(Version 1.44)

ANONYMOUS  I just installed httpmail 1.44 and now I can't send messages. I can recieve all my mail, but it says it can't send messages using the smtp server. Did these settings change with this release? I had no problems before. I even tried upgrading to Hotmail Plus thinking that may be the problem, but still no luck.  
(Version 1.44)

MICHAEL  oh my god I'm so happy...  
(Version 1.44)

ROSTOPOVITCH  Worked a treat thanks. I followed Jedik and deleted the person.djlp.mail.plist as without this, mail disabled the bundles. I re-imported my old mails to other folders to get them back. Was easier given my limited technical knowledge. Thanks Daniel for getting this out so fast when you seem to have a very full life. Congrats on the soon to be born!  
(Version 1.44)

ANONYMOUS  Thank you!!  
(Version 1.44)

PALSUNDT  YES!!!!  
(Version 1.44)

JEDIK  Thank you very much for the update. I had to delete person.djlp.mail.plist for it to work (I installed Tiger over Panther), then had to delete "Envelope Index" in the Mail folder in order to retrtive the older messages I had. Glad to see that this update now honors the offline/online status when checking for new email. I had some issues adding two accounts (Hotmail + MSN). Isn't this possible? Also, some prefs don't stick or don't work. But the basic functions are fine. Keep it up! :)  
(Version 1.44)

ANONYMOUS  thanks for the update :)

went a bit mad redownloading everything from the server and kinda messed up with the existing mail box data but i think it's ok now  
(Version 1.44)

ANONYMOUS  Thanks a lot for the pluggin.... I was waiting for it so impatiently, it is such a great feature to have. Seems to work fine with Tiger now.

Thanks again...  
(Version 1.44)

ANONYMOUS  Thank you, Thank you! this software saves my life!  
(Version 1.44)

ROBERT REES  Works just fine for me! Thanks very much for this.  
(Version 1.44)

JUAN  It does not let me save any changes at all under preferences such as synchronize with server. but yes working otherwise.. will wate for another update.  
(Version 1.44)

MIKE JACKSON  Installed the Tiger version fine and it works, my mail downloaded and then downloaded again, and then again! Anyone else got multiple copies of their stored folder mail?  
(Version 1.44)

THELAD  Bloody Brilliant! Thank you so much for getting this to work so quickly. It was the only thing stopping me form going to Tiger on all my machines.

Oh, those ppl who have had problems installing. Try quitting mail and installing again. ;)  
(Version 1.44)

ANONYMOUS  Doesn't seem to work, is disabled at startup.  
(Version 1.44)

ANONYMOUS  mail disables this  
(Version 1.44)

HERVé S.  ... but isn't there MacFreePOPs that does it for almost *all* webmails in the world?

(additionally, it withstood Tiger without failure here ;-)  
(Version 1.44)

JON BOY  GENIUS! Thanks Daniel  
(Version 1.44)

ANONYMOUS  I won't upgrade to Tiger until this works for it, that's how much I love it...  
(Version 1.43)

MICHAEL JAMES  I impulsively upgraded to Tiger (with Mail 2.0) before checking for compatibility with HTTPMail. Now my Mail program is hosed, even for non-MSN accounts. Anyone know a fix for this? Can Tiger be downgraded to the old version of Mail until HTTPMail is ready for it?

HTTPMail is a wonderful thing -- I appreciate dparnell and whomever else worked on it. I just hope it's working for Tiger soon.  
(Version 1.43)

ANONYMOUS  I actually visit hotmail so seldom that i'm going to be rather lost until this is updated for Tiger! I can't just go actually use MSN! Woe is me!  
(Version 1.43)

ANONYMOUS  The only reason I am not installing Tiger is because this app wont work with my mail application. I can't do without it!!!!

Please update asap!  
(Version 1.43)

ANONYMOUS  I have tiger and mail.app works absolutely fine. However, i can't get httpmail to work. Can't wait until we get an update for this.  
(Version 1.43)

ANONYMOUS  The httpmail plugin 1.43 is for the Panther version. It will not work on Tiger until it is updated.   
(Version 1.43)

ANONYMOUS  Thanks for that info! I was wondering why I was getting so many problems with Mail.

I hope the developer updates soon, this is one of the most useful apps ever.  
(Version 1.43)

ANONYMOUS  Very serious bugs under Tiger... it doesn't just not work, it actually prevents all of Mail.app from working.  
(Version 1.43)

HAN  aahh, it's times like these i'm grateful i haven't upgraded. when this has been updated, i'll think about it. but thanks a lot! this has been absolutely great for me, and will continue to be.   
(Version 1.43)

ANONYMOUS  mess up Mail 2!!! please update  
(Version 1.43)

ROGGER   How can something so essential be overlooked for mail 2.0? Please, fix issues with tiger  
(Version 1.43)

ANONYMOUS  I guess this is my punishment for getting Tiger early. I'd be eternally grateful for an update, or at least a notice as to how long it would take to do it so I can make other plans. Thanks!  
(Version 1.43)

ANONYMOUS  Could the developer PLEASEEEEE do a version for Tiger? My life depends on you!! thankssss!  
(Version 1.43)

ANONYMOUS  Dying for a Tiger update - pretty please!  
(Version 1.43)

JOHNNYBENDER  Great program but does not work with Mail 2.0 (Tiger). Developer, please update this plug-in. I NEED it!  
(Version 1.43)

KAMRAN KAZEMPOUR  If your are moving to Tiger be VERY CAREFUL! This plugin will cause Tiger not to import your mail properly. Revert the changes on the com.apple.mail file that the plugin's readme asks you to make. Tigers mail import will work at that point.   
(Version 1.43)

ANONYMOUS  I like this plugin, but the latest version (1.43) gets stuck in a loop, saying it's "Synchronizing with file system." I reverted back to 1.41 and it works fine.  
(Version 1.43)

DANGEROUS DAVE  Works great till recent. I think i may have had some files go corrupt while optimizing the HD, maybe not. But now the mail app goes nuts hogging all my 1gig of memory when it goes to check the hotmail account. The problem is this kicks my normally fast laptop into Virtual memory and then the world just crawls. Any ideas?  
(Version 1.42)

JACK FISHER  Doesn't work, downloaded from many different mirrors and not one will mount on the desktop (Open at all)

Messed up file  
(Version 1.42)

DJSPOOK23  i have been using this great app for awhile now and like another poster said will get rid of my "microsoft" email accounts when this no longer works.

On a different note - need a little help = have been using panther 10.3.7 for a while now with httpmail 1.42 with no problems until now - i was trying to add another hotmail account into mail in the prefs area and couldnt get it to work - would come up on mail screen with triangle offline icon - so my 1st question is can this app be used to grab multiple hotmail accounts?

my second question relates to the fact that mail will not respond anymore - someone tell me what i have stuffed up please lol - it hangs on fetching new mail and has to be force quit - this is without the second hotmail account in the prefs - any help would be great before i completely destroy my ibook lol

thanks in advance

apart from the above problems - which i am certain i have caused!!! i would rate this app amongst the best freeware apps i have tried  
(Version 1.42)

JONATHAN  Too bad about the free thingy, but 20$ for a year with 2GB is 'such a good deal' - and by the way, without this program I would die. Does anyone know if I can get it to work with yahoo? That would make it perfect! Email me.

hellrat  
(Version 1.42)

BLUEREVOLUTION  I've come to rely on HTTPmail, and I'm sorry it's going to stop working. I'm sure not going to give Microsoft any money so once HTTPmail stops working for me I'll trash it and start a POP3 account somewhere else.

Still makes me sad though.  
(Version 1.42)

ANONYMOUS  I had the problem of sometimes working and sometimes not, and I found that it was just timing out, (even though I'm on a T3) so I simply set the timeout in the prefs to a much higher value and now it connects every time.

P.S. It sucks that this won't work eventually for free accounts.  
(Version 1.42)

ANONYMOUS  Whats with blank incoming e-mails with this?

Ami the only person who get these blank e-mails with no sender or subject?  
(Version 1.42)

REVERB  Due to recent changes in the Hotmail service, this plug-in may or may not work for free Hotmail accounts. Eventually it'll stop working for all free accounts. The developer mentions this problem in the current release notes: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=411012. Note that paid Hotmail accounts should continue to work just fine.  
(Version 1.41)

ANONYMOUS  the program seems to work sometimes and not other times now. Kind of frustrating.  
(Version 1.41)

ANONYMOUS  Httpmail is still working fine for me.  
(Version 1.41)

ANONYMOUS  httpmail stopped working for me a bit ago as well - servers change. i was using 1.35.

i just downloaded 1.41, and it works perfectly for me. i can now send and receive mail through the hotmail servers.

i wonder if the users below are using the latest version from september 25th? or perhaps oM$No has changed their policy (as with the extra 248 MB disk space)?  
(Version 1.41)

ADAM  Works great, but M$ has shut the door to this kind of access...for a moment I was actually happy with my hotmail account, but M$ has "Microsofted" themselves again...thanks anyway  
(Version 1.41)

ROBERT JOHNSON  Yes, thank you, Daniel.  
(Version 1.41)

A BIG FAN  Thanks anyway Daniel, it was a great little app while it lasted!   
(Version 1.41)

ANONYMOUS  This has been become a bit of a muddle.

About a week or 2 ago M$ made some fundemental change to how these accounts are accessed from mail clients and this was reflected in a new version of httpmail.

Now about 2 days ago M$ have silently stopped it working altogether which is contraty to their original announcment about 'phasing it out in 2005' seems they have just killed it outright.

Thanks a lot M$. Not

There is a real need now for a standalone app that can present the user with a regular mail-client-like layout to their free hotmail account. Of course it would use regular http protocol and for all intents and purposes would appear to hotmail to be a web browser. It would literally have to parse the html pages, could be horribly fiddly seeing as hotmail web interface is loaded with javascript and other junk but I am sure it could be done. If my coding skills were up to it I would give it a go.  
(Version 1.41)

ANONYMOUS  this is a great app. BUT few days ago Hotmail discontinued support for application like mail.app accsess to server , even from Entourage it asks you to sign up for Premium Service 19$/mo (20MB) in order to send and receive mail in your Entourage. they I think honor only old hotmail accounts....another great reason to stop using Microsoft.  
(Version 1.41)

PHIL  great app, great price, had no problems at all with this. hotmail is slow and it is MS - but it is free and it *currently* supports POP access.

thanks for the app - it works a treat

and free too  
(Version 1.41)

YELLOW THRUSTER  I used the earlier plug-in and it worked great. I just downloaded the new plug-in, launched Mail and got ......

I got this message even after a re-boot. What do I do?  
(Version 1.41)

STEVE  I have been using httpmail to access my hotmail account mostly as an homage to one of my first email accounts. Free email accounts are going the way of the dodo, and free POP accounts are almost non-existant now. If Microsoft blocks Hotmail, that will just be the final death knoll for my poor, pathetic 2mb email account. I recently signed up for a 2 month trial of .mac, and am very happy about it, despite the fact that in about a month I'm going to have to pay for it. ($8.33/month, $100/year). For Mac users, .Mac is indespensible. iDisk, Homepage, chat, iCards, iSync and all the other stuff it does is quickly becoming worth the cost to me. So long Microsoft Hotmail!  
(Version 1.41)

ANONYMOUS  I agree with the last post, is there anything to stop a third party just spoofing what is required to make it seem like the login happened over a web browser? Is that what httpmail already does ?

2ndly httpmail has stopped working for me about 2 days ago for unknown reasons. I can no longer send mail from any account which fails in Mail with:

"Sending Message Content to the server failed"

Everything was working fine a couple of days ago.

My hotmail account boxes are also grey out in mail..  
(Version 1.41)

EGGMAN  The lack of service for linking to Outlook/OE only applies to new users right now - they're planning on discontinuing the service to O/OE for everyone by next April.

Color me naive, but are we sure that this is going to affect httpmail?

Great plugin, by the way. If it IS the case that Micro$quash is nixing httpmail's access as well, that's too bad. I feel dirty every time I go to the MSN/Hotmail website, and this program keeps me halfways-squeaky clean.  
(Version 1.41)

ANONYMOUS  Then, I guess it means that the time as come to close my hotmail account. Who needs only 2mb of mail anyway?

And for MSN Messenger, i'll sign for a passport with my yahoo address. So long s***, euh, I mean, Microsoft!  
(Version 1.41)

ANONYMOUS  The party's over folks - Microsoft is discontinuing free access to Hotmail from Outlook, Outlook Express, and httpmail Plugin. 5 stars for this app and -1000 stars for Microsoft.  
(Version 1.41)

ANONYMOUS  I have simple needs in checking my Hotmail account. I want to be able to read the email, delete my junkmail and do some basic housekeeping, and I've wanted to do it without having to access the account over the web. This app is truly a wonderful solution. It does everything I need easily and completely. The install and setup was quick and painless. In my test it have worked flawlessly to this point. A very elegant solution!  
(Version 1.41)

ANONYMOUS  Pretty good app, but it does not syncronize the mail that i receive and my hotmail account.  
(Version 1.41)

ROMCAT11  Yeah seems pretty good so far and works as described and a godsend for checking all your hotmail accounts via the Mail app.

My only concern is a slightly convoluted deinstall proceedure as described by the author. And I'm wondering if it would be neccessary to deinstall if updating the Mail app in the future (knowing how flaky and jittery recent 10.3.x updates have been)  
(Version 1.40)

PETE OZOLS  Does this plugin synchronize the folders and the contents inside to the server. If i drag an email message to a folder that i have created, the email does not appear in that folder on the server?

Any Ideas?  
(Version 1.40)

ANONYMOUS  No such problem for me. Works perfectly as always. We sure are lucky Microsoft hasn't tried to shut this down.  
(Version 1.40)

ANONYMOUS  This version causes Mail to use the "new mail" notification sound every single time it checks-regardless if there's new mail.

Can I change that?  
(Version 1.40)

ANONYMOUS  absolutly awesomesauce!  
(Version 1.40)

ANDY B  Hey thanks for this great tool. It works so well you forget it's there. And thats the greatest compliment I could ever give...

No rush, but when can we expect one for gmail?

just some wishful thinking...  
(Version 1.40)

SJ  This app is a lifesaver. Thanks so much, I can finalyl use Mail. I've had no problems and the webpage for setting up Mail is fool proof. Cheers!!  
(Version 1.39)

RORY  I've been looking for something like this for a long time, and I'm still looking. Not because this is bad (I haven't tried it), but because I use Yahoo!. Is there anyway to make it work for Yahoo! so I can finally use the great features of Mail?  
(Version 1.39)

RYCHIAR  umm this version just told me it requires mac osx 10.2, i have the newest version of panther, wtf  
(Version 1.39)

ANONYMOUS  Any possibility the author could make this to work with GMail?  
(Version 1.39)

MATRIX359  This is just what I was looking for. My wife now has no excuses for checking her e-mail, this is as simple as retreiving mail gets. No more going to MSN FOREVER...YES! Keep up the good work, Ill be checking for a new version often, especially when Tiger comes out next year. One more thing, excellent instructions.  
(Version 1.38)

JULIAN  I could not believe that Mail wouldn't allow me to receive my hotmail messages. I really hate that msn site, but I use hotmail everyday and wanted a solution. Enter macupdate. A quick search and a fantastic plugin that may not be perfect, but 1.38 is pretty close. Thank you for this, and goodbye msn!  
(Version 1.38)

MICHAEL WERNIG  works well. thank you!  
(Version 1.38)

TOPPY  I use Panther and get this message:

"This version of httpmail requires Mac OS 10.2"

....which is wierd 'cause the documentation says both Jaguar & Panther compatible.

Unusable!!!  
(Version 1.38)

SERGE  Well, that would be a valid explanation because i'm from Montreal ! For once, we have something that US don't have ! ;-)  
(Version 1.38)

DOWN10  Serge may be logging into a non-U.S. domain of Yahoo!. I know that POP3 access to Yahoo! Mail is no longer free in the U.S., but that's not the case in other countries (I forget which ones!).  
(Version 1.38)

SERGE  I don't know how many times I have to say it, but I never gave any money to Yahoo and that option is availablle in my account. So, if everyone but me here is right, Yahoo, somehow made an error that gives me free acces for something I should have paid. That's the only explanation !  
(Version 1.38)

NOAH HARBINGER  Re: Hint/Tip by Serge:

Yahoo Mail only offers mail forwarding if you pay for an upgrade. Personally I use FetchYahoo (http://fetchyahoo.twizzler.org/) or YoSucker (http://yosucker.sourceforge.net/) to download my yahoo mail to the mailserver I host, and then Mail downloads everything from that.   
(Version 1.38)

SERGE  The reply below is for the person who didn't find the option in Yahoo Mail that let you have your message transfered to your POP3 account. Sorry, I pushed the wrong button ! :(  
(Version 1.38)

SERGE  Yeah, but there's also that other option to get your Yahoo messages sent to your POP3 account.

I've just tested it : from Mail.app I sent a message to my Yahoo account and it was sent back in an instant to my POP3 account.

Go back to your Yahoo account and read more closely, I'm sure you will find it. Good luck !   
(Version 1.38)

ANONYMOUS  i cant even download it... i tried all the mirrors and all of them say it doesnt exist  
(Version 1.38)

SERGE  David, Yahoo Mail offers an option that let you have your messages transfered directly into your pop3 account.   
(Version 1.38)

DAVID  With Yahoo! upping their limit to a gigabyte, I'd love to see this plug-in work with Yahoo! Mail also :-)  
(Version 1.37)

YEEHAW!  Beeeautiful!

Always hated visiting hotmail, with all it's clutter!

(goes nicely with MailPictures)  
(Version 1.37)

DAVE  Superb, now I use mail client instead of the old (and sluggish) entourage.

Cheers guys  
(Version 1.37)

ERIC3  For several months I used this plugin, and it worked just fine under Jaguar. Then I reinstalled my system software on a new disk, copied everything over, installed the latest version of this plugin and so forth. All my messages were still there, but that my other hotmail folders (i.e. the Junk Mail folder) are only visible after the mail has been checked. They used to be visible all the time. How can I get this back to the way it was?  
(Version 1.36)

BRETT  Ran the install program and got the error message described in the "read me" files. Then made the prescribed changes and reopened Mail (1.3.4). Sure enough..I can make an account but as soon as I close the accounts window the new account dissapears. Repeated removal and installation did not solve the problem. Any ideas would be much appreciated. Its obviously working for others.

Brett  
(Version 1.36)

BRYCE  I finally figured out that if Mail calls a message from a hotmail accound "Junk" and you delete it, http mail doesn't delete the message from your Hotmail account, so just tell Mail that it is not Junk and then delete it. That seemed to fix the problem.  
(Version 1.36)

BRYCE  When I delete mail from my hotmail account using this, I can't figure out how to get it to delete on hotmail. I tried emptying the trash in mail and that didn't work. What now?  
(Version 1.36)

ANONYMOUS  For those of you who have trouble downloading...

Mirror download links   Demolition  

Version: 1.36, 3/22/2004 04:29PM PST

As of 4:00 pm PST, httpmail plugin 1.36 was available at:

For Jaguar:

http://aleron.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/httpmail-plugin/httpmail_jaguar_1.36.dmg.gz

For Panther:

http://aleron.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/httpmail-plugin/httpmail_panther_1.36.dmg.gz  
(Version 1.36)

ANONYMOUS  Fantastic... has pretty much always worked like a dream. Not having to visit Hotmail.com is such a pleasure.  
(Version 1.36)

BOB CASSUTO  impossible to download version 1.36. version 1.35 works fine  
(Version 1.36)

KEN  Thanks to the Developer!!!! Genius?!

Have been using 1.32 for several months now. No problems (that I know of). Havent logged into Hotmail for just as long.   
(Version 1.35)

ANONYMOUS  Is there any way to make this work with other web-based mail? (Namely Yahoo or Excite) That would be fantastic!  
(Version 1.35)

WILL BROOKE  WICKED!

Thank you so much!  
(Version 1.35)

~ M Z A ~  What about the Jaguar community? This sounds like a very useful app. Can you tweek it to work with Jaguar OS X.2.8? Please advise . . .  
(Version 1.35)

ZACH FORRESTER  Brilliant. Flawlessly Brilliant. Next up lets see a patch for iChat that lets you log on to MSN.  
(Version 1.35)

ANONYMOUS  i have set a http proxy server.

with the proxy server this tool do not work / receive messages.

another thing is the every time pop up requester of "should i save" after markiing from one account to a other account in the preferences.

Hey david, nice idea, nice tool. but it would also be nice to get an answer to the request at your support forum.

:-(  
(Version 1.35)

ANONYMOUS  well done daniel, great app that works and is free..... what more do we need to say....you have made my life and thousands of others a lot easier!  
(Version 1.35)

FLARCH  I love this thing!

I hate visiting hotmail and with this i don't need to.

Been using it for a year.  
(Version 1.34)

DANIEL JARAMILLO  It works great on Panther!

Finally I was able to download to my mac, very old emails that have been living in my hotmail inbox for ever...

Great job Daniel!  
(Version 1.34)

ANONYMOUS  Thanks - I'll give that a go!

Have a good day  
(Version 1.34)

DANA  This is a great solution to anyone who wants to use the Panther Mail app with MSN or Hotmail. I have used this for well over a year now and have throughly tested it's ability. It is the only program of it's kind that I know of.

My advice for hotmail users also using panther mail, is to go into your hotmail prefrences and turn off all your junk mail filters. This allows the mail app to do the junk mail sorting instead of hotmail, which has much better filters, etc.

Also have it keep all your email locally on your hardrive, as it will keep your hotmail account from filling up, and you can then view it even when your not connected to the internet.

Last but not least remember: hotmail has a limit as to the size of emails you can send out on their server for their free accounts. So don't send attachments over the limit set by hotmail, as the mail app will say it sent it, and it will not be sent. This little problem screwed me over wonderfully with some school powerpoint presentations.......   
(Version 1.34)

T  After installation Account Type "Exchange" no longer present in the account preferences of Mail. Uninstalling this plugin does not rectify the issue.   
(Version 1.34)

ANONYMOUS  Haven't downloaded this since I closed my hotmail due to 90% of it being spam, but is anybody up for making an equivalent for Yahoo mail, as this sounds like a really good idea. I'd do it myself if I had a clue where to start...  
(Version 1.34)

153957  It worked good in the early stages of development, but I got some problem with this one time and tried to uninstal it, and every time i try to reinstall it now gives me this message "read error: bay7.oe.hotmail.com"?? Anyone know what this means, and how to fix it?  
(Version 1.34)

JOEL NELSON  Works very well with Mail on 10.3.2; gives Hotmail/MSN users another option on Mac OS X. Simply install it using the installer package, follow the directions, and you will be using your MSN or Hotmail account with Mail in minutes. You can set HTTPmail to delete mail from the Hotmail server after downloading it, leave messages but mark them as read, or do nothing to the messages on the server.  
(Version 1.33)

JB  I have trouble with mail saying "could not find host: (null)" I went to preferences and entered my outgoing server as hotmail, added my name and pass, saved, and mail was retrieved. but I have to do this every time I launch mail, because it doesn't save the outgoing info.  
(Version 1.33)

ANDREW HAAS  great app....only it freezes my Mail every now and again when I'm in the prefs and I'm switching between hotmail and my other email account-not a huge deal, I just force-quit and reopen Mail and everything is fine until I try go modify the mailboxes (I can modify one and then close the Mail prefs and then reopen the prefs and modify the other mailbox-it just freezes when I try to modify both back to back). but...this is pretty trivial-I mean, how often does this have to be done?  
(Version 1.33)

ANONYMOUS  This is a great little application, but it also keeps freezing up Mail. With the plug-in installed, when you launch Mail, neither window (In box, New message) shows up. Oh well, just a little hassle, ok. It works fine for inloading your Hotmail mail -- I keep it on Manual mode so it doesn't get too crowded. But when I'm completely finished with Mail, you have to do the three-fingered salute to get it to quit. Luckily, I came up with a fix. I simply keep the http-mail-panther bundle out of the bundles folder, until I need to retrieve my Hotmail. I hope this helps some other users. With a little persistence (and bug fixes), this may indeed prove to be a killer ap. And I look forward to future editions.  
(Version 1.33)

FLARCH  Still works great as always, even if MSN doesn't always cooperate.

Beats having to go to that awful MSN site!  
(Version 1.33)

JEDIK  Works very well here. Installer upgraded the bundle without any problems. I only wanted that the Hotmail account remembered that offline/online status between sessions (every time I start Mail.app it goes to online, although the other accounts remember their status). Sugestion: mention the bundle verion in the messages printed to the console, so one can identify the plugin version in use. ;)  
(Version 1.33)

STONE  Excellent app!!! Now it's even better. It supports sending mail by Hotmail account as well now. Works perfectly with my Panther 10.3.2.  
(Version 1.32)

WIZARD  Excellent application; works fine without any problem. It would even better if the developer can add the capability to send hotmail from within the mail application.  
(Version 1.32)

ANONYMOUS  Installer is great.  
(Version 1.32)

LENNART CROSSLEY  Hey all!

This plugin doesn't works at 10.2.

I got the update 10.2.8.

So, don't install it if you doesn't

want to crashmail!

But all in all the plugin will work well.

Regards, Crossart  
(Version 1.32)

JESSICA  I love httpmail, but recently it freezes my computer whenever I turn it on. I then have to go to safe mode and fix whatever it did to my computer. Any ideas on why it's doing this??? i want to use mail again!   
(Version 1.31)

CHRISTOPHER SERRANO  I just followed the instructions in the Read Me, no problems in 10.3.1  
(Version 1.31)

FLARCH  GOT MY HTTP MAIL ACCOUNTS WORKING!

There's a bit of a trick to it if you want to avoid getting the INVALID DIRECTORY error.

After entering the information under the 'account info', i went straight to the 'Advanced' tab, then to the 'Special mailboxes tab'.

I think the real trick is to enter the 'account information' and then move on, allowing the account to save, at which time ~/Library/Mail will automatically be entered into the path blank.

If you want the account to be stored in your Mail directory, DO NOT fiddle with the 'Advanced' information until the account has saved once successfully.

Hope that works.  
(Version 1.31)

ANONYMOUS  same error as last person . . . invalid, etc.  
(Version 1.31)

FLARCH  I've used this for ages, but in the panther version, in addition to the problem described by sylvestermcmonkey below, i ran across another uglier one.

I have my main POP mail account, and one HTTP (hotmail) account all set up. When i try to create a second hotmail account i get the following nasty message when trying to save the information:

Invalid Directory

The account path /Users/Flarch/Library/Mail is already being used by the account "On My Mac"

--------

It won't allow me to leave the prefs dialog unless i choose another path, but all my mailboxes and prior information for all 3 accounts is, and should be, stored in that directory.

The path in the box for the first hotmail account is simply ~/library/mail and that box won't allow typing!

Tried some different things, but just ended up getting no mailboxes or mail listed for additional hotmail accounts.  
(Version 1.30)

SYLVESTERMCMONKEY  httpmail has been updated for Panther. Works fine for retrieving mail, haven't tried it for sending through the hotmail server. However, I get the following message when retrieving mail:

"The mailbox “~/Library/Mail/HTTPMail-johngalt@hotmail.com/Inbox.mbox” is currently locked by “John” on host “Johns-Powerbook.local”. If you open a mailbox that already is in use, you may damage its contents."

with buttons "open read-only", "quit" and "open". If I select "open read-only" everything appears to download fine. But there's no way to get rid of this annoying message. Anyone?   
(Version 1.30)

RYCHIAR  i was waiting for this all weekend and now i installed it and mail just says application not responding as soon as ya launch it. I followed the directions exactly and tried a few times...  
(Version 1.30)

ANONYMOUS  I installed this and now it works in panther but... It downloaded all my hotmail emails but it didnt show them to me...they are just gone.  
(Version 1.30)

KAZOSH  If you are interested in this being developed further, you should contact the developer here:

http://sourceforge.net/users/dparnell/  
(Version 1.22a)

RV  Fantastic plug in, and so easy to install and it makes wonders! I find this very, very useful, specially when sync with Address Book! I hope it will be updated to function in OS 10.3 panther soon. Wouldn’t want to lose it’s wonderful functionality.

Awesome, need it back URGENTLY, please quick.

Cheers,

RV  
(Version 1.22a)