Just note that lion 10.7.2 already includes safari 5.1.1 updaet so if you're on lion don't bother downloading this twice. I'm not even sure why they released a stand alone for lion. In case someone wants to stay on 10.7.1 but update only safari?
this is worth downloading as a 10.6 user though (using correct link of course)
wow that makes even less sense Jefferson, why would they release a stand alone that requires 10.7.2, when 10.7.2 already installs Safari 5.1.1? that's completely retarded. that'll just waste end users time that don't know 10.7.2 already has safari 5.1.1 included.
i was a happy owner of 3.x but i'm not too fond of 4.x version right now, it just seems like a rewrite that took away half the features i used. As it stands now it doesn't have nearly the assortment of options the previous version had. I go to recording options and there really aren't any. I want to control everything, and i just dont have those "knobs" so to speak in 4.x. hopefully they return
"adds new daytime/nighttime and daylight schedules, video quality adjustment, support for more network cameras, and fixes several issues affecting application stability and performance."
Thank you. I'll give it a whirl and see if it's more usuable now.
I have to rate safari poorly for it's complete lack of USER control. and 5.1 takes even more of that away with removing of a real downloads manager/window, in ability to delete invidiual cookies, now we can only delete sites.
plus the already previous limitations of being unable to configure helpers/plugins. I mean seriously? what browser doesn't let you confingure what plugin is used for what? if i want VLC plugin toi play something i have to uninstall quicktime and flash plugins? ridiculous. Internet explorer is a better product then safari despite it's terrible renderer vs webkit, and i think very little of IE. Safari takes an amazing browser engine and managers to turn it to crap.
i have used that program AND i have click2flash, the problem is click2flash safari extention does not support replacement for ALL flash players. most of the sites i use still use flash. defaultapp doesn't seem to have any options to control what browser plugin handles stuff, only what APP handles stuff that's downloaded. that's not useful to me. I've used rcdefaultapp for years. but it doesnt have what i need, something to force a different plugin to play flash videos. especially videos that are 1-2 hours long, cause the leak in flash gets worse every minute, about 30 min in and even a 2011 mac pro with 16 gigs of ram plays a really stuttery video from the CPU 100% bug in flash :(
aww, i was hoping of all the app authors this would be the one that found a way to kill auto save. but perhaps there just isn't a hidden cvar for it :(
no, a pretty high end mac pro actually, and the bug is easy to reproduce, watch a flash video, during palyback just toggle full screen playback 2-3 times and that'll be enough to flip flash out into 100% cpu usage and ruin playback on any system. the issue is new to flash on lion
the beta doesn't fix it either, and it's only certain sites not all of them, for example i cannot make it happen on hulu. i also think it's a leak, which means you're more likely to see it longer that single player has been open, in combination to toggling full screen a few times. i watch a lot of tv shows, and i foten have to pause it, or tab to another app and leave full screen. each time i do this though cpu usage goes up signifncaty until it's capped out. it's new to lion,and definitely a flash bug. it's very common on youtube apparently although i owuldn't know i been using html5 on youtube forever now. unfortunately some sites prefer flash :(
btw has anyone tested if this new beta fixes all the lion issues? Flash beta's dont have good track records, they tend to be alpha quality (their releases are beta quality after all). But 10.3 is pretty bad with lion so if 11 even remotely fixes that it's worth it.
Maybe i'm just really dumb but for an official app why can't i find tweet feature ANYWHERE? i see reply, retweet, or direct message, but the most important feature of all, starting a new tweet (not a reply) is not there. how? I grow tired of having to right click and then "view on twitter" to send a normal tweet that i don't want to appear as a reply to one of theirs.
Also sent to email address of course and i know it's been read. I'm posting here not for developer but perhaps so others can help reproduce some of them to get more in the "reproducable" catagory. :)
System Info:
Powermac G4 733digital audio with upgrades(frankenmac):
1.5GB ram
2ghz powerlogix 7447 processor card
ATTO Express PCI with 36GB 10krpm scsi-160 drive
Geforce 4 Titanium 128MB VRAM
Ultra-Tek133P+ card with 200GB ATA133 drive
10.4.7 PPC, all software up to date.
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MacBook Pro 15"
2.16ghz intel core duo
2GB Ram
100GB SATA 7200-rpm drive.
10.4.7 Intel, all software up to date.
Boot-Camp Beta 1
Windows XP Professional SP2 with ALL updates installed.
Yahoo! Messenger 7.5.0.819 for windows Yahoo! testing.
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ISP: Alltel DSL 15MB down 368 up.
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Severe bugs labeled with a *
Bugs:
Reproducible:
1. Webcam statistics do not continue to update after a viewer is allowed to view cam, stats stop once a cam invite is sent to someone and they begin viewing.
2. Buddy-list doesn't always refresh best when a mobile user logs out. manual refresh (command-r) no longer present in this beta either. Improving refresh or giving user manual refresh back(recommended) would be nice.
*3. Private messages do not work when using HTTP proxy mode(behind firewall) for connection.
*4. There is no easy way to ignore a user who is harassing. IE a toolbar button or even a menu command. the ONLY way to ignore a user is to open prefs and manually type in their yahoo id, meanwhile all while they PM bomb or do other harassing things. A shortcut to ignore someone is ESSENTIAL and therefor the lack of is a bug not a feature request.
5. Text is not all drag and dropable in all areas. Touchy where you click to drag it. Has to be on text, not a bubble screen name header. Avatars also get dragged or copied to clipboard when using select all.
6. The ichat style white/blue background colors on buddy-list show a cosmetic bug when looking closely. In ichat, each buddy group ALWAYS starts with white. Regardless of last color used in previous buddy group. Cosmetically, it doesn't look quite right on Yahoo! Messenger because it's not universal with iChat.
7. If you mouse-over area where time-stamps are supposed to be (but they are disabled) the time-stamp shows but the drawing is kind of funny and makes text jump around. Not sure if it's a bug or intentional but reporting just in case.
Unable to Reproduce:
*1. I noticed one of my ID's is completely blocked from signing into yahoo messenger 3.0b1, but it signs in fine with 2.5.3 as well as PC 7.5.0.819. On SAME computer, signing in on two other accounts works. it's only "mysticalosm" that indefinitely tries connecting and fails unless i choose firewalled. Which doesn't make sense. My other buddy-lists were able to show id online so i IMed it, sure enough i was able to exchange not only IMs but cam with this id. The messenger client just never realized id was signed in and never updated buddy-list or menu commands to reflect it. it was completely online but THOUGHT it was still connecting indefinitely. I thought I had found a solution by enabling/disabling buddy-list animation but this only worked ONCE...To this moment I have found NO way to get mysticalosm online again besides reverting to 2.5.3 or using PC 7.5 in boot camp.
UPDATE: Further investigating showed it was resolved by logging in and editing buddy-list (removing buddies awaiting authorization is what i did) while on HTTP proxy, then login on normal setting again works again for now.
2. Got an erratic behavior when trying to view cams, would make cam noise but NEVER attempt to connect to cam or even show a cam window. if a user invited me I'd also never see invite just hear cam noise and never get anything..Was only solved by deleting prefs file.
3. Buddy-list sometimes has UI issues. IE clicking ANYWHERE on it will open someone's "I'm mobile" url even if i clicked no where near it. This is only fixed by a relaunch of client. Another encountered UI issue, one time when cam was open it looked like the down arrow was stuck. the highlight cursor kept scrolling down buddy-list indefinitely even if i clicked, pressed up etc...had to relaunch this time too.
4. Sorting list by name/availability doesn't seem to be working, seems to only sort by name either way. (This only occurred with initial use, haven't been able to reproduce)
5. Possible ichat or yahoo messenger possible bug. I have ichat using custom sounds but when yahoo is open, ichat starts using regular sounds again.
6. Disconnects frequently on both wireless and wired connections on PPC and Intel Mac when no other programs are effected of which include amsn, ichat (Connected to aim and googletalk), and icq.
*7. A user was viewing my cam first. Sent me an invite to her cam. When i began to view her cam, she stopped seeing my image and instead my cam was actually broadcasting hers back to her. She was invisible when this happened as well as on PC Yahoo Messenger. Unknown steps to reproduce but definitely a serious bug.
Features:
*Major feature request.
1. Ability to disable nickname/full-name display and use yahoo id's only.
2. Ability to use classic sound sets if we don't like the new ichat inspired ones.
3. Tabbed IMs, ever used Chax for ichat? you'll learn to not live without it. Might also get more feature suggestions there ;)
4. Cam window detached as an option. Buddy-list integration should not be forced.
5. An easier way to adjust fonts/colors than by right clicking in text field or using menu-bar.
6. Classic IM format, Not everyone likes the way ichat does it. Ichat lets you make bubbles clear and put names on left etc to resemble classic format. We need that too as users..
7. Yahoo! 7.x or higher smiley set. the more 3d and better colors ones..as well as the new ones.
http://www.wackyb.co.nz/Yahoo_v7.5/
8. Some web-pages/forums use the improper yahoo:// handler instead of ymsgr like they are supposed to, most apps like adium and my 2.5.3 patch added it as a handler type too just so people can't complain and blame the program for not handling the url wrong..
9. Webcam viewer window statistics, the Sub bar that 2.5.3 had, time of last image received etc.
10. Seems to use address-book entries and yahoo address-book entries. But if you got an entry in yahoo address book that isn't in apples address-book. Should be able to save it to apples ;)
11. Brushed metal is ugly! Don't make me edit the nib files to get rid of it. A pref is very easy to code for this.
12. Color fades/effects on OUR typing not just buddies.
*13. Chat rooms. sure you heard these enough but it is a gimmie. Even if OS X doesn't have DSP truevoice built into OS do to licensing issues..can still have voiceless chat.
14. Ability to view a profile of someone that's not on list. Where you type in users name. Same with view a cam. IE "View Webcam..." "View Profile ..."
15. Voice chat. DSP truevoice for conferences/chat rooms last I knew still had licensing issues with Microsoft's right to codec in their OS and plus no Mac implementation of codec since OS 9's classic player. However Call voip protocol uses a different codec doesn't it? I can see that making it to a mac client.
*16. Menu consolidation. Too many menu's, I lose my plaxo and weather menu's on the PPC mac. Intel mac is wide screen so it's fine.
I think the number one reason people find problems with 3rd party disk utilities is that they don't follow the guideline of always run disk utility first on that volume. If possible, run from a volume that has most current version of system software and version of disk repair utility. Not everyone has two hard drives, and although you can use two partitions on a disk to repair one, i really don't think that concept is perfect, if there is any kind of hardware problem such as a bad sector your bound to lose data this way. Many programs that let you make bootable cds with up to date system software on them..hard drives are cheap too, just get a low/med capacity one to make as a minimal boot volume that you keep up to date, not just with system software but any hardware drivers. My hard drive is on a SCSI card so naturally those drivers are always current on ANY disk I'm repairing the drive with. ONLY time i ever had problems was booting off a cd that didn't have latest scsi drivers and disk utility had problems repairing drives successfully. But do everything possible to run from current OS X version. Especially when concidering updates like 10.4.3 which specificly note changes to hfs+. Want to make sure a disk used to repair this has these same changes. Just my two cents.
Only lowered features and ease of use since they are not fully implemented yet. Broken feature sets have to count for something. Other then that pretty nice app. All those having trouble with it. It uses your video driver directly to render it. It's speed depends highly on performance of video card and CPU. So it would probably show various different speeds depending on hardware. As for the erratic behavior, Could be video drivers/opengl not current? IE 10.3.9 mac users? 10.4 has substantial improvements to stability and speed of opengl and graphics drivers, and each 10.4 incremental update has only improved it further. If you're not on 10.4.3 it wouldn't be fair to even complain at all..If you are on 10.4.3, It's time to beef up mac. Now adays you can up a pretty old mac pretty cheap. This app runs very fast on my G4733 just cause I put a 2ghz cpu update in that's like 300 dollars and a geforce 4ti card. I'm good until intel macs are perfected. :)
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+5
Adobe Flash Player
+2
Adobe Flash Player
+1
Apple Safari
this is worth downloading as a 10.6 user though (using correct link of course)
+1
+80
+2
EvoCam
+80
Thank you. I'll give it a whirl and see if it's more usuable now.
+7
Firefox
"what's new
Version 8.0b1"
"So what's new in firefix 8?"
"we upped the version number"
"and?"
"that's it, we upped the version number, it's now 8.0b1. Gotta catch up to Chrome 15 some how. Gotta close the gap"
+3
Apple Safari
Mysticalos reviewed on 02 Oct 2011
plus the already previous limitations of being unable to configure helpers/plugins. I mean seriously? what browser doesn't let you confingure what plugin is used for what? if i want VLC plugin toi play something i have to uninstall quicktime and flash plugins? ridiculous. Internet explorer is a better product then safari despite it's terrible renderer vs webkit, and i think very little of IE. Safari takes an amazing browser engine and managers to turn it to crap.
+80
+1
Adobe Flash Player
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/916/cpsid_91694.html
MacPilot
+1
Adobe Flash Player
+80
+80
+1
Adobe Flash Player
+80
Twitter
+1
Mac OS X iMac Update (Mid-2010)
Yahoo! Messenger
System Info:
Powermac G4 733digital audio with upgrades(frankenmac):
1.5GB ram
2ghz powerlogix 7447 processor card
ATTO Express PCI with 36GB 10krpm scsi-160 drive
Geforce 4 Titanium 128MB VRAM
Ultra-Tek133P+ card with 200GB ATA133 drive
10.4.7 PPC, all software up to date.
------------------------------------------
MacBook Pro 15"
2.16ghz intel core duo
2GB Ram
100GB SATA 7200-rpm drive.
10.4.7 Intel, all software up to date.
Boot-Camp Beta 1
Windows XP Professional SP2 with ALL updates installed.
Yahoo! Messenger 7.5.0.819 for windows Yahoo! testing.
----------------------------------------------------
ISP: Alltel DSL 15MB down 368 up.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Severe bugs labeled with a *
Bugs:
Reproducible:
1. Webcam statistics do not continue to update after a viewer is allowed to view cam, stats stop once a cam invite is sent to someone and they begin viewing.
2. Buddy-list doesn't always refresh best when a mobile user logs out. manual refresh (command-r) no longer present in this beta either. Improving refresh or giving user manual refresh back(recommended) would be nice.
*3. Private messages do not work when using HTTP proxy mode(behind firewall) for connection.
*4. There is no easy way to ignore a user who is harassing. IE a toolbar button or even a menu command. the ONLY way to ignore a user is to open prefs and manually type in their yahoo id, meanwhile all while they PM bomb or do other harassing things. A shortcut to ignore someone is ESSENTIAL and therefor the lack of is a bug not a feature request.
5. Text is not all drag and dropable in all areas. Touchy where you click to drag it. Has to be on text, not a bubble screen name header. Avatars also get dragged or copied to clipboard when using select all.
6. The ichat style white/blue background colors on buddy-list show a cosmetic bug when looking closely. In ichat, each buddy group ALWAYS starts with white. Regardless of last color used in previous buddy group. Cosmetically, it doesn't look quite right on Yahoo! Messenger because it's not universal with iChat.
7. If you mouse-over area where time-stamps are supposed to be (but they are disabled) the time-stamp shows but the drawing is kind of funny and makes text jump around. Not sure if it's a bug or intentional but reporting just in case.
Unable to Reproduce:
*1. I noticed one of my ID's is completely blocked from signing into yahoo messenger 3.0b1, but it signs in fine with 2.5.3 as well as PC 7.5.0.819. On SAME computer, signing in on two other accounts works. it's only "mysticalosm" that indefinitely tries connecting and fails unless i choose firewalled. Which doesn't make sense. My other buddy-lists were able to show id online so i IMed it, sure enough i was able to exchange not only IMs but cam with this id. The messenger client just never realized id was signed in and never updated buddy-list or menu commands to reflect it. it was completely online but THOUGHT it was still connecting indefinitely. I thought I had found a solution by enabling/disabling buddy-list animation but this only worked ONCE...To this moment I have found NO way to get mysticalosm online again besides reverting to 2.5.3 or using PC 7.5 in boot camp.
UPDATE: Further investigating showed it was resolved by logging in and editing buddy-list (removing buddies awaiting authorization is what i did) while on HTTP proxy, then login on normal setting again works again for now.
2. Got an erratic behavior when trying to view cams, would make cam noise but NEVER attempt to connect to cam or even show a cam window. if a user invited me I'd also never see invite just hear cam noise and never get anything..Was only solved by deleting prefs file.
3. Buddy-list sometimes has UI issues. IE clicking ANYWHERE on it will open someone's "I'm mobile" url even if i clicked no where near it. This is only fixed by a relaunch of client. Another encountered UI issue, one time when cam was open it looked like the down arrow was stuck. the highlight cursor kept scrolling down buddy-list indefinitely even if i clicked, pressed up etc...had to relaunch this time too.
4. Sorting list by name/availability doesn't seem to be working, seems to only sort by name either way. (This only occurred with initial use, haven't been able to reproduce)
5. Possible ichat or yahoo messenger possible bug. I have ichat using custom sounds but when yahoo is open, ichat starts using regular sounds again.
6. Disconnects frequently on both wireless and wired connections on PPC and Intel Mac when no other programs are effected of which include amsn, ichat (Connected to aim and googletalk), and icq.
*7. A user was viewing my cam first. Sent me an invite to her cam. When i began to view her cam, she stopped seeing my image and instead my cam was actually broadcasting hers back to her. She was invisible when this happened as well as on PC Yahoo Messenger. Unknown steps to reproduce but definitely a serious bug.
Features:
*Major feature request.
1. Ability to disable nickname/full-name display and use yahoo id's only.
2. Ability to use classic sound sets if we don't like the new ichat inspired ones.
3. Tabbed IMs, ever used Chax for ichat? you'll learn to not live without it. Might also get more feature suggestions there ;)
4. Cam window detached as an option. Buddy-list integration should not be forced.
5. An easier way to adjust fonts/colors than by right clicking in text field or using menu-bar.
6. Classic IM format, Not everyone likes the way ichat does it. Ichat lets you make bubbles clear and put names on left etc to resemble classic format. We need that too as users..
7. Yahoo! 7.x or higher smiley set. the more 3d and better colors ones..as well as the new ones.
http://www.wackyb.co.nz/Yahoo_v7.5/
8. Some web-pages/forums use the improper yahoo:// handler instead of ymsgr like they are supposed to, most apps like adium and my 2.5.3 patch added it as a handler type too just so people can't complain and blame the program for not handling the url wrong..
9. Webcam viewer window statistics, the Sub bar that 2.5.3 had, time of last image received etc.
10. Seems to use address-book entries and yahoo address-book entries. But if you got an entry in yahoo address book that isn't in apples address-book. Should be able to save it to apples ;)
11. Brushed metal is ugly! Don't make me edit the nib files to get rid of it. A pref is very easy to code for this.
12. Color fades/effects on OUR typing not just buddies.
*13. Chat rooms. sure you heard these enough but it is a gimmie. Even if OS X doesn't have DSP truevoice built into OS do to licensing issues..can still have voiceless chat.
14. Ability to view a profile of someone that's not on list. Where you type in users name. Same with view a cam. IE "View Webcam..." "View Profile ..."
15. Voice chat. DSP truevoice for conferences/chat rooms last I knew still had licensing issues with Microsoft's right to codec in their OS and plus no Mac implementation of codec since OS 9's classic player. However Call voip protocol uses a different codec doesn't it? I can see that making it to a mac client.
*16. Menu consolidation. Too many menu's, I lose my plaxo and weather menu's on the PPC mac. Intel mac is wide screen so it's fine.
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