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Probably the best release of QXP since version 5 running in Classic on OSX. The new interface shows how clunky Adobe's has become and the tools are in many respects better than inDesign's. But best of all, QXP8 is fast. Huge files open almost instantly, the annoying buglets of QXP 7 have been fixed (no autosave bloat). Quark's helplines are excellent.
Anyone using inDesign really must look at QXP to see what they are missing (I use both so have no axe to grind). The 60-day full version try-out is free.
Anyone using QXP6 needs their heads examining. Why on earth don't you upgrade to get superior typesetting and on-screen display, better tools, transparency, page and box baseline grids, faster working… you might as well be back using QXP 3 or 4 in comparison with version 8.
There are a few rough areas waiting for attention: the book pallet needs redesigning, grids are a little clunky to set up, in-line graphics can become unstable (but still far better than inDesign's) but given the choice between working in QXP8 or inDesign, it's QXP every time.
I find it very strange that I am supporting QXP 8 after many years spent trying to convert hardened QXP users to inDesign. Up until CS2, inDesign deservedly held sway on OSX. Then QXP7 and CS3 came out and started to match each other feature for feature.
inDesign CS4 is… problematic… and expensive to upgrade to. Adobe seem to have developed Quark-of-old's style of customer support whereas Quark have seen the light and realise they actually need customers. QXP 8 is what version 7 should have been (and version 7 is what 6 should have been). Quark lost sight of the ball and needed to get back into the game in a hurry.
As far as the interface is concerned, it is always a matter of personal taste although Adobe have consistently used one box to achieve one end result throughout their product range whereas Quark prefer multi-tabbed boxes which will serve a multitude of settings. Adobe have vertical tabs down the side of the screen while Quark use horizontal. QXP 8 has a (IMHO) more developed and user-definable tool bar and contextual measurements pallet while inDesign has a far better help system.
For speed, try them both. I find QXP 8 quicker to set-up and lay-out a piece of work (especially books) and what I read on the web would agree with me. (Please don't ask for references, it is Xmas holiday after all).
For the future, I see Quark possibly being side-lined and undeservedly so because it is as good, if not better than inDesign. Just as Freehand did with Illustrator and @£$%^ (fill in blank) was usurped by Photoshop. Younger designers might know only the program they use rather than having a more open and experienced view about things. We started in Calamus before moving to Pagemaker. The former has been reborn while the latter is a page in Wikipedia. Nevertheless, Calamus is unlikely to challenge for the DTP crown.
Needed a way to make segmented archives to upload large files. Gumby makes this easy by producing RAR archives which Stuffit Expander can decompress if you use Gumby's non-default (Old) setting.
The developer does seem to have stopped work on Gumby. Luckily it works in Leopard.
Had so many problems with 7.02 moved back to 7.0. Not interested in the weak animation tools anyway.
QuarkXPress is still the most problematic application we have and it has been so since 1989. Considering a lot of the legacy code is still inside it is no wonder.
For the most part, given the choice we use inDesign instead of XPress and luckily our clients are following suit as they too "see the light". I just cannot imagine why some XPress users are so happy. It is a buggy, old fashioned, limited piece of not-quite MacOSX software (no Services access). I shall be pleased when I do the last job ever in QuarkXPress.
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iPlayer Downloader
macmuser reviewed on 19 Dec 2008
Excellent.
Now where's a kitten to kick?
QuarkXPress
macmuser reviewed on 13 Dec 2008
Anyone using inDesign really must look at QXP to see what they are missing (I use both so have no axe to grind). The 60-day full version try-out is free.
Anyone using QXP6 needs their heads examining. Why on earth don't you upgrade to get superior typesetting and on-screen display, better tools, transparency, page and box baseline grids, faster working… you might as well be back using QXP 3 or 4 in comparison with version 8.
There are a few rough areas waiting for attention: the book pallet needs redesigning, grids are a little clunky to set up, in-line graphics can become unstable (but still far better than inDesign's) but given the choice between working in QXP8 or inDesign, it's QXP every time.
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inDesign CS4 is… problematic… and expensive to upgrade to. Adobe seem to have developed Quark-of-old's style of customer support whereas Quark have seen the light and realise they actually need customers. QXP 8 is what version 7 should have been (and version 7 is what 6 should have been). Quark lost sight of the ball and needed to get back into the game in a hurry.
As far as the interface is concerned, it is always a matter of personal taste although Adobe have consistently used one box to achieve one end result throughout their product range whereas Quark prefer multi-tabbed boxes which will serve a multitude of settings. Adobe have vertical tabs down the side of the screen while Quark use horizontal. QXP 8 has a (IMHO) more developed and user-definable tool bar and contextual measurements pallet while inDesign has a far better help system.
For speed, try them both. I find QXP 8 quicker to set-up and lay-out a piece of work (especially books) and what I read on the web would agree with me. (Please don't ask for references, it is Xmas holiday after all).
For the future, I see Quark possibly being side-lined and undeservedly so because it is as good, if not better than inDesign. Just as Freehand did with Illustrator and @£$%^ (fill in blank) was usurped by Photoshop. Younger designers might know only the program they use rather than having a more open and experienced view about things. We started in Calamus before moving to Pagemaker. The former has been reborn while the latter is a page in Wikipedia. Nevertheless, Calamus is unlikely to challenge for the DTP crown.
Gumby
The developer does seem to have stopped work on Gumby. Luckily it works in Leopard.
QuarkXPress
QuarkXPress is still the most problematic application we have and it has been so since 1989. Considering a lot of the legacy code is still inside it is no wonder.
For the most part, given the choice we use inDesign instead of XPress and luckily our clients are following suit as they too "see the light". I just cannot imagine why some XPress users are so happy. It is a buggy, old fashioned, limited piece of not-quite MacOSX software (no Services access). I shall be pleased when I do the last job ever in QuarkXPress.
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Apple Safari
Checked drive and permissions, have no haxies installed so d/l a fresh version of Safari and installed that. Still hangs.
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Always thought that application signing is a piece of pooh.
7zX
Selected the segment size, still only got one file.