Vvidget Builder is now a standalone self-contained application with no other resources than what is in the application itself. It can be installed by unzipping and uninstalled by dragging to the trash.
As a result, some of the specs have narrowed and an entirely new distribution has been made to accommodate a larger scope. That new distribution is listed at:
"A launchd background process, running as root, for a graphing app?"
As stated before, it does not run as root.
"... why even consider such a thing for a graphing app?"
Some of our customers want the features of the graphing server. We do not pigeonhole customers, but rather give them the features they request. Any customer can use the Vvidget Admin tool to turn the graphing server (launchd background process) off.
"Is Vvidget designed to do more than make pretty graphs?"
Yes, it is designed for many things from high-transaction distribution of visuals, high speed graphs (> 100,000 samples per second) to more esoteric things such as implementing a distributed control system for things like factory automation and financial risk management.
"Props to the previous poster for saving me the trouble of trying out this proto-malware."
That is really a low blow and unworthy of your previous questions. Thank you for your impressions. Please feel free to send feature requests and improvement ideas to support@vvi.com where we give them honest consideration.
VVI support here: As far as we can determine, the server issue talked about here is a bunch of FUD. The server can be turned off by using the Vvidget Admin tool if that is what you want, it has no reported security issues, and no verified problems, it also does not run as root. The one non-verifiable report of a problem on this forum is probably due to a third party application error for which we are not responsible for. If you did have a problem with our software you should report it to: support@vvi.com.
MacUpdate Admin: My apologies. On June 26, 2007 we "took ownership" of the listing you made. However, the system was new at that time and was not operable on our first attempt. Since then you have inserted update information before we could do it ourselves so that we were preempted from doing it. If you turn off your automatic updating of this product then we will attempt to maintain the information. I just submitted a product update to correct some errors in this listing and we will attempt to keep it current from now on. Thank you for bringing this issue to our attention.
As a side note: We take technical bug reports very seriously and I will attempt to retrieve such reports from any source, of which this is one. I'm not too interested in responding to FUD, but I am interested in this forum so that we can acquire legitimate bug reports. Some of the issues mentioned on this forum have been solved a long time ago. We thank the posters for their information and help in making our product better.
Lance here, tech support@vvi. Your comments are well received by us! Some of the answers are at: http://www.vvi.com/products/vvidget/faq.html
The Peer_Visual_Server startup item is a graphing server, no more than that. It is used for the graphing wizard components and other graphing apps that rely on wizard technology. The phone home is an update mechanism to inform you of new versions when available. The install is a bit more complex than drag and drop because it uses Frameworks (shared resources) that all of the apps and servers use. The smaller apps do interact with the builder app if you export the graph to the builder with the export control. The user install package does not install a kernel extension (but our data acquision installer does if you use that). The install feels more systems oriented because of the nature of the shared frameworks, server and other components that interact with each other. Feel free to email me at lbland@vvi.com with other comments or to post them here also! Thanks for your other suggestions ... I've forwarded them to the feature list for a future version. thanks!- lance
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Vvidget Builder
Vvidget Builder is now a standalone self-contained application with no other resources than what is in the application itself. It can be installed by unzipping and uninstalled by dragging to the trash.
As a result, some of the specs have narrowed and an entirely new distribution has been made to accommodate a larger scope. That new distribution is listed at:
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/33285/vvidget-code
Thanks to all the posters for bringing the issues of the previous complex install to our attention.
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Vvidget Builder
As stated before, it does not run as root.
"... why even consider such a thing for a graphing app?"
Some of our customers want the features of the graphing server. We do not pigeonhole customers, but rather give them the features they request. Any customer can use the Vvidget Admin tool to turn the graphing server (launchd background process) off.
"Is Vvidget designed to do more than make pretty graphs?"
Yes, it is designed for many things from high-transaction distribution of visuals, high speed graphs (> 100,000 samples per second) to more esoteric things such as implementing a distributed control system for things like factory automation and financial risk management.
"Props to the previous poster for saving me the trouble of trying out this proto-malware."
That is really a low blow and unworthy of your previous questions. Thank you for your impressions. Please feel free to send feature requests and improvement ideas to support@vvi.com where we give them honest consideration.
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Vvidget Builder
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As a side note: We take technical bug reports very seriously and I will attempt to retrieve such reports from any source, of which this is one. I'm not too interested in responding to FUD, but I am interested in this forum so that we can acquire legitimate bug reports. Some of the issues mentioned on this forum have been solved a long time ago. We thank the posters for their information and help in making our product better.
Vvidget Builder
Lance here, tech support@vvi. Your comments are well received by us! Some of the answers are at: http://www.vvi.com/products/vvidget/faq.html
The Peer_Visual_Server startup item is a graphing server, no more than that. It is used for the graphing wizard components and other graphing apps that rely on wizard technology. The phone home is an update mechanism to inform you of new versions when available. The install is a bit more complex than drag and drop because it uses Frameworks (shared resources) that all of the apps and servers use. The smaller apps do interact with the builder app if you export the graph to the builder with the export control. The user install package does not install a kernel extension (but our data acquision installer does if you use that). The install feels more systems oriented because of the nature of the shared frameworks, server and other components that interact with each other. Feel free to email me at lbland@vvi.com with other comments or to post them here also! Thanks for your other suggestions ... I've forwarded them to the feature list for a future version. thanks!- lance