Ha. They changed the download link just today on the clamxav.org site to something that now doesn't work. This morning it was still downloading MacKeeper, but now it directs to a dead page:
http://www.unmetered.org.uk/mmedia/ClamXav_2.1.dmg
Someone's been covering their tracks. I bet because of the ruckus I stirred today.
I'll leave it up for people to search the Apple Support Communities to get quality opinion about the slime called MacKeeper.
Rather than from a person that created an account here for the sole purpose of bolstering MacKeeper.
If you were to do some research and read back in this thread, you may find that the clamxav.org issue wasn't reported by me. In fact this is where I found out about it.
It was indeed due to the ruckus I stirred that someone changed the link. Hardly a far-fetched action from a company that is so desperate to keep the truth about their slimy ways and worthless product concealed.
As of this writing, there is a link that in no way makes it clear that it is an advertisement, and nor does it even suggest that the product to be downloaded is anything other than ClamXav, but is rather a competing product.
Deceptive. Very deceptive.
I wonder how long it will be before this page is also modified to remove the download link for MacKeeper.
In the event they do also modify this page I have screen grabs and the source code for the page if anyone wishes to examine them to back up my claims of deceptive marketing.
Please elaborate before they finish modifying the rest of the pages. What is it about the "Recommended Software: Mac Anti Virus" button that makes it inherently obvious that it is an advertisement, and that a product other than ClamXav is going to be downloaded?
To anyone reading a review titled "ClamXav Review" on a web site called clamxav.org, it would be reasonable to believe that a link such as this would download the product ClamXav, and not something else.
The misleading social engineering employed by the promoters of MacKeeper is unique in the Macintosh community. And it is shameful.
Which is mostly why I have so much zeal about this in my posts here. The other part being that the software is just downright useless - at best. Being downright harmful to an OS X build is also common.
The image has rather high resolution so anyone can download to examine it closely.
Unless one has the equivalent of Safari's Show Status enabled in their browser - and first examines the link before clicking it, anyone reading the page would reasonably expect to download ClamXav and not MacKeeper.
For one to accept your argument that the "Recommended Software: Mac Anti Virus Download Now" button is an advertisement, then one must also accept that the developers of ClamXav are promoting a competing product on their own site.
What's that? The developers of ClamXav aren't behind clamxav.org? Wow. I wonder who it could be. Not someone with a financial stake in the promotion of MacKeeper. No, It couldn't possibly be something as obvious as that.
This link by the way is the true web site for ClamXav:
http://www.clamxav.com/
I don't see any deceptive download links for MacKeeper anywhere on it. Hmmmm. I wonder why...
An associate of mine installed this on his 3 months-old iMac at home. Immediately the iMac started running terribly slow. As in pathetically slow.
He called me over to take a look. Firing up Activity Monitor I saw several instances of "wine" running. I knew right then and there this app had to go.
So I deleted this junk software & rebooted, and fortunately the iMac came back to life.
Furthermore, the sleazy clamxav.org domain thing is an unforgivable act. I wouldn't ever again trust a company that did such a thing.
Who knows how much phoning home the software had been doing, I didn't bother to check.
Hope my associate can get his money back! I will post again on how that works out.
Also go to clamxav.org and click the button-link at the bottom that says "Recommended Software: Mac AntiVirus Download Now"
Instead of downloading ClamXav or taking you to the real clamxav.com web site, as one would reasonably expect, it takes you to the mac-keeper.com web site.
I'm a long time and continual user of SilverFast starting back in the OS 9 days, or even before. I don't really remember this detail accurately so let's just call it a real long time. Scanner brands I've used with SilverFast that come to mind are Linotype, Nikon, Canon, Epson and Leaf.
This is a powerful app with a fairly deep learning curve. Over the years I've instructed several users on the operation of SilverFast so I do have a strong sense of this.
However, I have to grade their tech support as simply awful. Once in the past I had to resolve an installation problem that was caused by the mis-manufacturing of the installer disk. The copyright system was improperly implemented. Correcting this problem entailed a long and tedious task of convincing tech support there wasn't anything wrong with my system and that the problem did indeed rest on them. Finally they acknowledged the problem and a fix was deployed by them.
Now I'm experiencing a problem with SilverFast working with an Epson V750 on *Snow Leopard*. Here I am, once again, confronted with the long and arduous task of convincing them they have a problem with their software. They have the attitude that the product is infallible and that the cause of a problem no matter what is the creation of the end user.
On this 2008 Mac Pro system I had been, and continue to, happily use SilverFast on Leopard 10.5.8 with both a Nikon LS-8000 and the Epson V750.
I have several Macintosh computers and among them many more operating system installs. I have tried SilverFast with the Epson V750 via FireWire on about 6 different configurations of Mac & Snow Leopard and it simply does not work.
On my scanning station Mac, when I upgraded to Snow Leopard, I did so by installing it on a new hard drive. Not once have I been able to get SilverFast to work with this Snow Leopard install and the Epson V750 via FireWire, although it does continue to work with the Nikon LS-8000.
When booted into Snow Leopard Epson's scanner software and Image Capture will operate with the scanner without any problems. But SilverFast will not see the V750 via FireWire.
I have installed yet another new hard drive and installed a new Snow Leopard, and installed only Silverfast. Nothing else. It did not work. So I wiped the drive and installed Silverfast, but this time after installing the Epson drivers. No joy. Silverfast will not see the Epson V750 scanner via FireWire. If I install the Nikon plug-in for Silverfast it will operate normally.
I submitted via their web site support forums a detailed accounting of the nature of the problem and troubleshooting steps I have tried. Only to discover that their support forums are moderated to the point that any topic that will reveal to the public any problem or bug with the software will not be posted. Yes. You are reading this correctly. Only posts that do not reveal to the public problems and bugs with the software are posted. They will not permit a post that may in any way cast a poor light on the product.
I received the following e-mail response to my attempt at my posting on their support forums:
"Dear customer
thank you for your interest in LaserSoft Imaging's SilverFast software solutions.
Our forum is not intended for individual tech support, this would make the forum hard to read for users searching for certain information.
Also personal/restricted information like your serial-number may be necessary which should not be posted in a open forum.
Therefor a ticket has been opened to answer your support request most swiftly."
What a complete joke.
This is an obvious lie. It is so bad of a lie that the truth is exactly the opposite. You see, every single day I search one forum or another for solutions to technical problems. Every single one of them does allow a post like the one I attempted to post with Silverfast. Those posts being present on user forums are a gold mine. A complete wealth of information awaiting a keyword search by anyone seeking a solution to a technical problem with a product.
Let's just say for the sake of argument that LaserSoft isn't concealing information on their user forums that don't cast the product in a bad light. Then this simply means that LaserSoft has such low regard for their customers that they believe we are too inept to do a keyword search of the forums.
Frankly, it could be both. They don't want information that may cast a bad light on the product to be made public, and they have low regard for the competence of their customers.
If everyone were to prohibit posts such as this, any efficiency for customers in finding solutions to technical problems would simply cease to exist!
I had not kept a copy of my detailed accounting because I had submitted it via the web form. So now that is lost. Yippee.
I did recreate a shorter accounting of the problem and sent it off, referencing the newly created support ticket. Yet the language in this reply was obviously a canned response that has likely been sent to thousands of other customers. And it was obvious that the person I had been working with had not read either of my accountings of the problem.
So SilverFast the product is a rather decent and powerful product, so long as a customer does not discover a bug within it. When such a bug discovery happens, get ready to run up against a wall of denial, arrogance and disdain by LaserSoft.
I wonder how many potential forum contributors are pushed away because they won't permit the free exchange of information about technical issues with their products.
Instead of being a useful asset for everyone's benefit, the forums have been relegated to a storefront checklist-item for the sales department to show to potential customers "lookie here we have a support forum"!
When really the potential of the support forums are ruined.
ColorBurst RIP is the opposite. They initially provide technical support only via the forums that are participated in by active company personnel. If during the forum post it appears to be a problem with the product, then the case is escalated from there.
But LaserSoft is too paranoid about having too many people post information on topics like "My Epson V750 Cannot Be Found"! The public can't be allowed to see that. It might look bad if we do.
After all the blaming me for having things wrong with my system, LaserSoft just released an update that addresses this very problem.
So months after I first contacted them regarding this issue, and had to deal with their idiotic canned responses, my scanner now works on Snow Leopard!
Been a while since I updated. Haven't used this scanner much mostly out of dread. So I'm late in an important update.
On the Silverfast web site is little information regarding this. You know. They delete things that cast a negative light on the product.
Go LaserSoft.
There are still scraps of information that were overlooked by their overzealous moderators.
One thread discussing this indicates that USB should be used instead, and that USB is every bit as fast as FireWire.
So I did a test.
Talk about a bogus claim. I didn't retain the information but the lack of performance with USB compared to FireWire was as significant as one would expect.
So here's what the scoop is with this problem:
I can get SilverFast to work with my Epson scanner reliably, up and until I use it with my Nikon scanner. Then Silverfast breaks with FireWire and the Epson scanner. But it will work with the very slow USB. This is not an option for the volume of work I have.
Before Snow Leopard, with Leopard and Tiger, SilverFast worked just fine with both my Nikon and Epson scanners via FireWire at the same time. I couldn't have both scanners powered on simultaneously, but I didn't care.
But with Snow Leopard this does not work and they seem to have no intention on correcting this problem. I'm stuck with the dreadfully slow USB.
What a shame that a decent product like this is produced by a company with such indifference to their customers.
I started using Now Up to Date & Contact in the late 1990's and loved it.
After the complete disaster of the NowX update I sought out a replacement and settled on SOHO.
I've been using SOHO for a couple of months now and I do find myself missing Now Up to Date & Contact. But using that isn't an option anymore. SOHO isn't terrible and it is a promising product.
One week ago I experienced a crash of SOHO and afterward I was unable to get Organizer or Notes to launch. I tried every remedy I could find on their web site but nothing would work. I then submitted a help ticket on their web site.
I have yet to receive a response of any kind.
In the meantime I did get SOHO to launch, not by any solid troubleshooting methods, but more from just dumb luck.
But I am wondering when, if ever they will respond to my help ticket.
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MacKeeper
Only the gullible would find value in this product.
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+101
The link didn't work for you? Why am I not surprised? Because it most certainly does work - it downloads MacKeeper.
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+101
http://www.unmetered.org.uk/mmedia/ClamXav_2.1.dmg
Someone's been covering their tracks. I bet because of the ruckus I stirred today.
+2
+101
Rather than from a person that created an account here for the sole purpose of bolstering MacKeeper.
If you were to do some research and read back in this thread, you may find that the clamxav.org issue wasn't reported by me. In fact this is where I found out about it.
It was indeed due to the ruckus I stirred that someone changed the link. Hardly a far-fetched action from a company that is so desperate to keep the truth about their slimy ways and worthless product concealed.
+2
+101
I'll post more as I find them.
+2
+101
+2
+101
You state that at the bottom of the clamxav.org page is an advertisement that "clearly says RECOMMENDED SOFTWARE: Mac Anti Virus"
Yet that is now gone and has been replaced with a dead link that says "Click here to download ClamXav."
But you then you suggest that nothing has changed.
From your own words it is obvious for all to see that something has changed.
And it is obvious that you are lying.
+2
+101
http://www.clamxav.org/clamxav-mac-antivirus-a-tool-protecting-your-mac-folders.html
As of this writing, there is a link that in no way makes it clear that it is an advertisement, and nor does it even suggest that the product to be downloaded is anything other than ClamXav, but is rather a competing product.
Deceptive. Very deceptive.
I wonder how long it will be before this page is also modified to remove the download link for MacKeeper.
In the event they do also modify this page I have screen grabs and the source code for the page if anyone wishes to examine them to back up my claims of deceptive marketing.
+2
+101
To anyone reading a review titled "ClamXav Review" on a web site called clamxav.org, it would be reasonable to believe that a link such as this would download the product ClamXav, and not something else.
The misleading social engineering employed by the promoters of MacKeeper is unique in the Macintosh community. And it is shameful.
Which is mostly why I have so much zeal about this in my posts here. The other part being that the software is just downright useless - at best. Being downright harmful to an OS X build is also common.
+2
+101
Explain how the download link is obviously an advertisement for a competing product and is not a link to download ClamXav.
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww97/gskibum/Tech/clamxav.jpg
The image has rather high resolution so anyone can download to examine it closely.
Unless one has the equivalent of Safari's Show Status enabled in their browser - and first examines the link before clicking it, anyone reading the page would reasonably expect to download ClamXav and not MacKeeper.
http://www.clamxav.org/clamxav-mac-antivirus-a-tool-protecting-your-mac-folders.html
Knock yourself out. Have at it.
+1
+101
Way to completely not address the download link for MacKeeper.
You know. The most prominent link on the page - that in no way indicates that anything other than ClamXav will be downloaded.
A defender of deceit you are.
+1
+101
For one to accept your argument that the "Recommended Software: Mac Anti Virus Download Now" button is an advertisement, then one must also accept that the developers of ClamXav are promoting a competing product on their own site.
What's that? The developers of ClamXav aren't behind clamxav.org? Wow. I wonder who it could be. Not someone with a financial stake in the promotion of MacKeeper. No, It couldn't possibly be something as obvious as that.
This link by the way is the true web site for ClamXav:
http://www.clamxav.com/
I don't see any deceptive download links for MacKeeper anywhere on it. Hmmmm. I wonder why...
+1
+101
Unfortunately in the case of clamxav.org - MacKeeper, humor is not their desired intent.
+101
http://www.reedcorner.net/news.php/?p=245
I had missed that the misleading download links have been removed since I started this thread.
+4
MacKeeper
Gskibum reviewed on 09 Apr 2011
An associate of mine installed this on his 3 months-old iMac at home. Immediately the iMac started running terribly slow. As in pathetically slow.
He called me over to take a look. Firing up Activity Monitor I saw several instances of "wine" running. I knew right then and there this app had to go.
So I deleted this junk software & rebooted, and fortunately the iMac came back to life.
Furthermore, the sleazy clamxav.org domain thing is an unforgivable act. I wouldn't ever again trust a company that did such a thing.
Who knows how much phoning home the software had been doing, I didn't bother to check.
Hope my associate can get his money back! I will post again on how that works out.
Stay away from this junk!
+5
+101
Also go to clamxav.org and click the button-link at the bottom that says "Recommended Software: Mac AntiVirus Download Now"
Instead of downloading ClamXav or taking you to the real clamxav.com web site, as one would reasonably expect, it takes you to the mac-keeper.com web site.
Indeed a very underhanded thing to be doing.
+101
You clearly have not in any way grasped the point I was making regarding the made-of-slime marketing tactics they use.
Try again.
+1
ClamXav
Gskibum reviewed on 27 Jan 2011
Otherwise they might go and click on links in spam e-mail messages, or download & install trojans like the DNS Changer trojan.
Without AV software they would otherwise get a computing Darwin award.
+2
SilverFast Epson Scanner Software
Gskibum reviewed on 22 Dec 2010
This is a powerful app with a fairly deep learning curve. Over the years I've instructed several users on the operation of SilverFast so I do have a strong sense of this.
However, I have to grade their tech support as simply awful. Once in the past I had to resolve an installation problem that was caused by the mis-manufacturing of the installer disk. The copyright system was improperly implemented. Correcting this problem entailed a long and tedious task of convincing tech support there wasn't anything wrong with my system and that the problem did indeed rest on them. Finally they acknowledged the problem and a fix was deployed by them.
Now I'm experiencing a problem with SilverFast working with an Epson V750 on *Snow Leopard*. Here I am, once again, confronted with the long and arduous task of convincing them they have a problem with their software. They have the attitude that the product is infallible and that the cause of a problem no matter what is the creation of the end user.
On this 2008 Mac Pro system I had been, and continue to, happily use SilverFast on Leopard 10.5.8 with both a Nikon LS-8000 and the Epson V750.
I have several Macintosh computers and among them many more operating system installs. I have tried SilverFast with the Epson V750 via FireWire on about 6 different configurations of Mac & Snow Leopard and it simply does not work.
On my scanning station Mac, when I upgraded to Snow Leopard, I did so by installing it on a new hard drive. Not once have I been able to get SilverFast to work with this Snow Leopard install and the Epson V750 via FireWire, although it does continue to work with the Nikon LS-8000.
When booted into Snow Leopard Epson's scanner software and Image Capture will operate with the scanner without any problems. But SilverFast will not see the V750 via FireWire.
I have installed yet another new hard drive and installed a new Snow Leopard, and installed only Silverfast. Nothing else. It did not work. So I wiped the drive and installed Silverfast, but this time after installing the Epson drivers. No joy. Silverfast will not see the Epson V750 scanner via FireWire. If I install the Nikon plug-in for Silverfast it will operate normally.
I submitted via their web site support forums a detailed accounting of the nature of the problem and troubleshooting steps I have tried. Only to discover that their support forums are moderated to the point that any topic that will reveal to the public any problem or bug with the software will not be posted. Yes. You are reading this correctly. Only posts that do not reveal to the public problems and bugs with the software are posted. They will not permit a post that may in any way cast a poor light on the product.
I received the following e-mail response to my attempt at my posting on their support forums:
"Dear customer
thank you for your interest in LaserSoft Imaging's SilverFast software solutions.
Our forum is not intended for individual tech support, this would make the forum hard to read for users searching for certain information.
Also personal/restricted information like your serial-number may be necessary which should not be posted in a open forum.
Therefor a ticket has been opened to answer your support request most swiftly."
What a complete joke.
This is an obvious lie. It is so bad of a lie that the truth is exactly the opposite. You see, every single day I search one forum or another for solutions to technical problems. Every single one of them does allow a post like the one I attempted to post with Silverfast. Those posts being present on user forums are a gold mine. A complete wealth of information awaiting a keyword search by anyone seeking a solution to a technical problem with a product.
Let's just say for the sake of argument that LaserSoft isn't concealing information on their user forums that don't cast the product in a bad light. Then this simply means that LaserSoft has such low regard for their customers that they believe we are too inept to do a keyword search of the forums.
Frankly, it could be both. They don't want information that may cast a bad light on the product to be made public, and they have low regard for the competence of their customers.
If everyone were to prohibit posts such as this, any efficiency for customers in finding solutions to technical problems would simply cease to exist!
I had not kept a copy of my detailed accounting because I had submitted it via the web form. So now that is lost. Yippee.
I did recreate a shorter accounting of the problem and sent it off, referencing the newly created support ticket. Yet the language in this reply was obviously a canned response that has likely been sent to thousands of other customers. And it was obvious that the person I had been working with had not read either of my accountings of the problem.
So SilverFast the product is a rather decent and powerful product, so long as a customer does not discover a bug within it. When such a bug discovery happens, get ready to run up against a wall of denial, arrogance and disdain by LaserSoft.
They disgust me to no end.
+2
+101
Instead of being a useful asset for everyone's benefit, the forums have been relegated to a storefront checklist-item for the sales department to show to potential customers "lookie here we have a support forum"!
When really the potential of the support forums are ruined.
ColorBurst RIP is the opposite. They initially provide technical support only via the forums that are participated in by active company personnel. If during the forum post it appears to be a problem with the product, then the case is escalated from there.
But LaserSoft is too paranoid about having too many people post information on topics like "My Epson V750 Cannot Be Found"! The public can't be allowed to see that. It might look bad if we do.
+2
+101
After all the blaming me for having things wrong with my system, LaserSoft just released an update that addresses this very problem.
So months after I first contacted them regarding this issue, and had to deal with their idiotic canned responses, my scanner now works on Snow Leopard!
+101
On the Silverfast web site is little information regarding this. You know. They delete things that cast a negative light on the product.
Go LaserSoft.
There are still scraps of information that were overlooked by their overzealous moderators.
One thread discussing this indicates that USB should be used instead, and that USB is every bit as fast as FireWire.
So I did a test.
Talk about a bogus claim. I didn't retain the information but the lack of performance with USB compared to FireWire was as significant as one would expect.
So here's what the scoop is with this problem:
I can get SilverFast to work with my Epson scanner reliably, up and until I use it with my Nikon scanner. Then Silverfast breaks with FireWire and the Epson scanner. But it will work with the very slow USB. This is not an option for the volume of work I have.
Before Snow Leopard, with Leopard and Tiger, SilverFast worked just fine with both my Nikon and Epson scanners via FireWire at the same time. I couldn't have both scanners powered on simultaneously, but I didn't care.
But with Snow Leopard this does not work and they seem to have no intention on correcting this problem. I'm stuck with the dreadfully slow USB.
What a shame that a decent product like this is produced by a company with such indifference to their customers.
+1
SOHO Organizer
Gskibum reviewed on 10 Feb 2010
After the complete disaster of the NowX update I sought out a replacement and settled on SOHO.
I've been using SOHO for a couple of months now and I do find myself missing Now Up to Date & Contact. But using that isn't an option anymore. SOHO isn't terrible and it is a promising product.
One week ago I experienced a crash of SOHO and afterward I was unable to get Organizer or Notes to launch. I tried every remedy I could find on their web site but nothing would work. I then submitted a help ticket on their web site.
I have yet to receive a response of any kind.
In the meantime I did get SOHO to launch, not by any solid troubleshooting methods, but more from just dumb luck.
But I am wondering when, if ever they will respond to my help ticket.
+101
+2
Now X
Gskibum reviewed on 14 Oct 2009
As others have said - too little, too late.
I would have stayed with NUDC, but they abandoned syncing with Address Book in Leopard.
I can't wait to get rid of this and move on to something else. Possibly SOHO 8.
The hard part is going to be fixing the catastrophe NowX has made out of my calendar.
Microsoft Messenger
But really, is there anything else about this that is actually new?