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Appscout
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NeoOffice
Appscout commented on 15 Jan 2012
Why is it wrong for companies to sell software, but it is OK to offer software for "free". Then, beg for money. Or more incredulously, 'demand' a donation.

Sure, 'your' time is worth something. If you spend a combined 80/wk, the two of you are working at this all week. You deserve to be paid.

Maybe sell each dot upgrade for five bucks? I'm sure each and every Mac running NeoOffice, could manage that expense. Have single and corporate accounts, maybe.

Or sell it at Mac App Store for 3-4 bucks per upgrade. [Personally, I'd much prefer paying with the App Store]

Maybe get corporate sponsors. "NeoOffice... brought to you by."

Apple 'Pages' sells for 15 bucks. But, then it doesn't get upgraded very often.

Just some thoughts. I think the license 'allows' you to make money. It's just that, the notion of a manditory "donation" seems bizarre.

Anyway, continued success.
[Version 3.2.1 Patch 3]



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TuneSmith
Appscout commented on 03 Jan 2012
Ooops!
[Version 1.0]



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Check Off
Appscout commented on 27 Jun 2011
Seems to be abandonware. Too bad.
[Version 4.1.1]



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Conquest of Phobos
Appscout commented on 22 Oct 2010
Ouch!

Looks like another Demo, that's slipped into the Freeware category.
[Version 1.2]



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Disk Drill
Appscout commented on 20 Oct 2010
On their website it's clearly posted:

GET IT NOW!
It's absolutely FREE while beta...

I've seen this 'free while beta' before. as soon as it 'has gone stable'. A 'third party' will buy Cleverfile's IP.

Then, 'Data Drill' will quickly become commercial software. Surprise!

Unpaid beta software testers hopefully will get a respectable discount from the new owners.
[Version 1.0.55]


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Appscout replied on 21 Oct 2010
[Nobody's buying us.]

By 'third party', I probably meant 'you'.

[... everyone who sends feedback to us while the software is in beta will get a free lifetime license.]

And, by the above parsed message, you probably meant, that the 'free lifetime license' won't be 'gotten' by any 'non-participants' of the "'Disk Drill' beta feedback program".

Which probably means that everyone will 'pay' for a license of the stable version. Either with their time, or their money. Or, whatever else that could 'probably' mean.

I'm probably not completely convinced that there's not some sort of equivocating with the 'JR' version of the meaning of the word, 'free'.

But, all in all. I probably could mean, 'possibly' - in atleast one instance, of the word that I did use.
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Appscout replied on 21 Oct 2010
[everyone who sends feedback to us while the software is in beta will get a free lifetime license.]

But, this ONLY applies to participants' of the "'Disk Drill' beta feedback program". Yes?

[Once again, every downloaded copy of Disk Drill Beta will stay free forever.]

Yes, the 'Disk Drill Beta', will stay free forever. No equivocation there.

But. Once again. What of the STABLE version?

YES or NO. Will the 'Disk Drill Final' version be 'free', forever?
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Appscout replied on 21 Oct 2010
CLEVERFILES,

[The final stable release of Disk Drill will not be free.]

That wasn't so hard, was it? But, we travelled a long way to get here. ;-)

Perhaps you feel that others and myself were splitting hairs on your meaning of the word 'free'.

But, by continuing to insist that Disk Drill beta, is and will be 'free' forever, and never OVERTLY addressing whether or not Final versions of Disk Drill will be free or pay, you appeared to be downright avoiding that question. What else could be concluded?

All I wanted to know was what the approximate pricing on the final stable release might be. [I think that "Juan Alberto Martin", on your "Why free beta?" help page - and some others, here - wanted to know as well. ;-)]

In the interim, perhaps MacUpdate could create a new category for developers. Betaware.

Anyway.

I sincerely wish you lotsa success in your endeavors. After reading through your site, I find that some of the features seem quite interesting. And, of course I hope that you can price it competitively. ;-)

[FWIW, yes, a free Demoware version could be good marketing.]

Good luck.
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Appscout replied on 03 Nov 2010
Jakeb,

Myself, "Baannongdong-kap", and "Ean", think that this app, as it is currently being offered — as a FREE beta app — is actually a demo.

There's no shame implied in demoware. So, why promote the fact that this beta software, is free?

Maybe I am conflating "free", with "final" (and, perhaps the other two are as well). Because, I fail to see why anyone would need to promote the word "free" with the word "beta". This may be the root of my so-called confusion with the word "free", when used with software.

I think I'm correct. But, that's just my opinion.

You are free to get upset that we have conflicting opinions. But please, don't kill yourself on my account.
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Appscout replied on 03 Nov 2010
Also, I believe if you are offering, or ever intend to offer, a paid version of your beta software. Then, your current software is, infact — demoware.

Think I'm wrong on this, then read what "Stickman67" thinks of Personal Brain, and the "ethically wobbly marketing technique" they're using.

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/25616/personalbrain
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Explore!
Appscout commented on 08 Sep 2010
Reminds me of "Desert Trek" by Cary Torkelson

Graphics are modern.

But, needs status meters and action buttons.
[Version 1.0]



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XKOBO
Appscout commented on 27 Jul 2010
Very much like the '80s coin-op game - Bosconian. Cool.

I left a few quarters with Bosconian.

Three concerns: X11; play field is too small; and mouse controlling is awkward.

Could you:

- make a 'native' Mac port?
- make the play field larger?
- allow spacebar to control shooting (as is, the arrow keys control direction - which is good, but useless without shot control)
[Version 1.11]


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Appscout replied on 21 Oct 2010
Thanks. I guess had I read "How to control the spaceship" on your site, then I wouldn't have been confused.

I simply read the little intro splash screen, and just experimented. Ultimately playing with the mouse.

Now, I can really give the Bosconians some 'shift'. Ha HA! [That's a pun.]

Anyway, thanks again for bringing it.
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AppWall
Appscout tipped on 23 Jul 2010
I understand the need for security these days. But, if this ssaver could display our own app icons without any "phoning home" issues, that would be cool.

Otherwise, still like it. Thanx.
[Version 1.0]



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jalada Boskonian
Appscout commented on 12 Jul 2010
Free.

For one easy payment of, $3.99

;-)
[Version 1.1.0]



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Biorhythm X3
Appscout commented on 11 Jul 2010
I think I actually prefer v1.8.1 better.

It's nice that a 'Universal' version keeps this app up-to-date.

But, you haven't improved the UI too much. In fact if you run these side-by-each, you may just think that the 'old' version is less 'cumbersome' than the new one.

Thanks for the effort tho'. :-)
[Version 3.0]



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