MAC ADAM  • Smart Collection not found all icons contain name specified

• Allow Delete icons directly from any collection  
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DIGITALBATH  Well said.  
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CABEL  HI RONL,

Don't misunderstand -- we definitely understand where you are coming from!

By the same argument, though, Adobe charges a lot of money for Photoshop, and I think a lot of that money goes to the cost of developing features I will never even remotely use or care about in a million years. That said, I would never try asking Adobe to make me a special, half-price version of Photoshop cutting out the handful of features I'll never use -- I just understand that while some features aren't for me, Photoshop on the whole is still a nice, useful program.

To boot, I've often wondered "who would ever want this feature?" before, only to find that, after using it, it's invaluable.

Even at a $25 upgrade cost, we really think the new features, of which there are many, such as 512x512 icons, full Dock customization, a brand new interface, icon quick look, etc., are well worth it. We hope that anyone who has the opportunity to try the CandyBar 3 demo will agree.  
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RONL  Thanks for posting.

Great app... no question about it.

But since I only basically change the default font folder (for the most part) with CB the new combined version is more than I need.

Only since Leopard have I found that the default folders have been so bud-ugly (ala OS 7)... that I couldn't take looking at them.

For most of my custom folders I just copy/paste.  
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SOOTHE  Cabel, you never heard of Photoshop Elements? It's a cut down version of Photoshop for a lot less money ...  
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CABEL  kknopp:

If you feel CandyBar was overpriced when it was set at only $13 (!) -- well, I'd say it's probably not the program for you. I can't imagine what price you think it should be! There's literally no way we could price a piece of software at less than $13 and keep it active, constantly updated with new versions and new features, fully supported, etc. My apologies.

(Also, keep in mind: it is no longer "just a freakin' icon changer". We didn't want to raise the price without adding significant value to the program, new features, and great functionality, like Dock changing, large icon support, icon organizing, etc.)

Soothe:

It's a good point about Photoshop Elements. But it's a lot easier to develop and support two separate versions of an application at once when you're a huge company like Adobe -- and when your "cut-down" version costs $99! :)  
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BRUCE_Y  I bought Pixadex and CandyBar as separate apps a while back.

I have used Pixadex a fair amount, though not regularly. I bought it because IconBox was discontinued, and I wanted a supported app to store and access my icons.

I have used CandyBar maybe two times in as many years.

Now along comes CandyBar 3, which requires (a) Leopard, (b) more money.

It kind of leaves me out in the cold, because I don't have Leopard (no rush for the .0 or even .1 OS), and I don't fancy the rather steep price to upgrade when it seems all their effort went into the Leopard-only CandyBar. The app that I really want/use is the Pixadex.

Make it Tiger compatible (OK to have some features reserved for Leopard only), and lower the upgrade price, and i'd jump on it.

Just my opinion.

Perhaps I will change my mind about CandyBar when I do get around to Leopard, since Apple in their own bizarre fashion have decided to downgrade all folder icons to a design that is almost impossible to tell them apart (What Were They Thinking - or Not Thinking more likely).  
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WARCHILD13  I'm sorry you feel the need to support what to me is tantamount to theft. Your logic is absurd and this overtly emotional "not liking where the Mac Community is heading" is immature. You codify that with your inane name calling.

Freeloaders who pay for a package and then are offered no sensible or remotely fair path to upgrading are not freeloaders, they are victims.

I paid for a few other Panic programs and plan to find suitable replacements for them.

Combining twp programs and stripping features from both of them to effect the merger is not an upgrade in my mind.

Disabling the old paid for Candybar so that it is totally worthless is evil and undoes all the good will Panic had engendered in me in one fell swoop.  
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CABEL  Hi "Warchild13",

Thanks for your comments.

A couple questions. First, what features did we strip out of Pixadex and CandyBar 3? As best we can tell CB3 offers significantly more features than both programs had separately before, including complete 512x512 icon support, Quick Look, Icon Look, a whole new integrated interface, and much more. The only known removal I'm aware of is the "App Extras' section of CB2, which was cut due to incompatibility concerns with Leopard. Please let me know if there's something we're missing?

Furthermore, we did not disable CandyBar 2 — many people are still downloading/purchasing it today and using it under Mac OS X 10.4, and that's fine with us! Significant changes and new features in Leopard caused us to make CandyBar 3 Leopard-only, but CandyBar 2 continues to work fine under 10.4.

I'm truly sorry you don't think our upgrade path is sensible -- despite only being $13, we did provide nearly three years of free CandyBar 2 updates including, lest you forget, a totally free update to support Mac OS X 10.4.

We think you'll get well more than your money's worth out of CandyBar 3, but I totally understand if you disagree.

Thanks again for your feedback!  
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F451  Warchild13,

I've never understood people who purchase a Mac and then don't have the money to pay for anything else. Perhaps you should have purchased a PC and joined the PC community? You're definitely part of the "something for nothing crowd."

You've already said that you are moving on, "move on." Why comeback and whine if you've going elsewhere? Not to mention that you don't have your facts straight. Adios brother.  
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WARCHILD13  Look F dude. Grow up or at least try and learn to be an adult. Your childish suppositions and vague accusations are tedious, boring and plain old stupid.

As to CandyBar it is disabled in Leopard with no fix other than a 25 buck upgrade. This was clearly a greed or at least profit driven tactic with no concerns for the users who supported your product. It is a disgrace and would not be tolerated in any but the software field.

The stripped feature was the only one I used and that was to replace icons within apps. I do it by hand now, CandyBar was worth it to me only for the convenience.

Pixadex still works.

The only Panic app I still use is Unison, which I did pay for. I expect you'll kludge that soon enough. It has been unreliable in the past. The serial number protection being incredibly harsh - its the only app that still flashes purchase in the menu bar while it waits to load up.

There are good Mac software developers out there who don't abandon their customer base with every OS upgrade. I support them and will continue to do so.  
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CABEL  Warchild13,

I think you might have overlooked a couple of things I mentioned.

You say: "[Other companies] don't abandon their customer base with every OS upgrade." Good news! We don't either.

As I said, we released a major upgrade to CandyBar 2 to support Mac OS X 10.4 -- and it was TOTALLY FREE OF CHARGE for all users, during the nearly three years that we released free updates. Similarly, Transmit, Unison, Coda, etc., all were updated to support Leopard, completely free of charge. And some of the changes weren't minor! CandyBar was our only, notable exception, due to the huge scope of changes we made.

As for changing your application icons by hand, you are more than welcome to do so! As a warning: if Apple enables the built-in code signing in a future Mac OS X minor update, your applications will simply no longer launch. This is what we're trying to safely avoid by disabling that feature until we get a sense from Apple of their plans.

(As for Unison showing the Purchase menu very briefly while it loads -- I suspect this simply a bug, and I'm surprised to hear that it's considered harsh or gets in your way. We'll look into it!)

Thanks again for your comments and feedback!  
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F451  Warchild13,

Next time you visit to the grocery shop and proceed to pay for your groceries I want to tell the cashier that you have no intention of paying as two years ago the same groceries costs less. Spout your pretzel logic to the cashier about how it is unethical, and how you are getting ripped-off, blah, blah, blah (don't forget to tell the cashier how smart you are). See what happens next. You, and others, clearly demonstrate your lack of life experience with every post you write.  
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MACUPDATE ADMIN  "pretzel logic", what a great term, haven't heard or seen it used since the Steely Dan album of the same name. Would you happen to be a Steely Dan fan?  
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F451  "Would you happen to be a Steely Dan fan?"

Absolutely! Isn't everybody? ;)  
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MACUPDATE ADMIN  One can only hope! *grin*  
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CABEL  Hi Kosovar,

While it's a sad to wish we go out of business (do you wish Apple goes out of business because they provide no upgrade discount at all for iLife / iWork every year?), I totally and absolutely appreciate and understand if you choose not to upgrade to CandyBar 3.

That said, CandyBar 3 is a far more significant product than it has ever been, and I do hope this comes across. And although you didn't ask for Pixadex -- there are a ton of features I didn't ask for in Photoshop! :) -- many customers who were initially skeptical of the Pixadex integration now tell us that they can't understand how they got along without it before.

I do hope that someday you can consider the $25 (or $19) upgrade to CandyBar 3, as I think you'll get more than your money's worth!

Best,

Cabel / Panic  
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KRYSIA  A year later...

Just a note to say that I'm extremely glad Panic hasn't gone out of business. I love their products, even though I'm unable to use the new version of CandyBar (!) because I don't have Leopard on my computer, I do enjoy using the CandyBar 2. I've also LOVED LOVED LOVED Transmit; it's the only FTP program worth using, IMO, and now that I've added Coda to my application party, the champagne's uncorked.

Panic provides reasonably priced, feature-packed, *gorgeous*, and relatively easy to use software. Support has been fantastic every time I've had to contact them for whatever reason (and it's been few and far between). It's up to the consumer to decide which they prefer, but no need to wish a company to go under (taking its customers with it!) simply because you don't like it.  
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