TUISHIMI  I agree. They have had over a year now to update their applications for 10.5 while they were working on solidifying APE.  
(Version 2.5)

TIM27  i think there's only one guy programming over there. and that's not his day job.

i miss kaleidoscope.  
(Version 2.5)

DREMWKR  Yes, and works well.  
(Version 2.5)

MACSOLU  Ummm, you're wrong. Do some research before making a comment like this. The developer's blog goes into great detail about compatibility and what is "allowed".  
(Version 2.5b1)

KOSOVAR1  Ummm, no, I too think the developer should GO BACK to the drawing board and develop something that, this time, works well with the Mac OS, and in particular with LEOPARD. Please don't post this stuff for sale if it isn't stable and finished. I used AE off and on for a couple of years and found it was sometimes problematic with the Mac OS. You know this, Unsanity,so stop trying to sell us snake oil.

I kept coming back to AE because it was required by Shapeshifter, which was a great idea, except that it too always seemed to be rough around the edges, especially in how it interacted with iTunes. Or was it that AE again seemed to destabilize my Mac?  
(Version 2.5b2)

MACSOLU  So, you can prove the developer is dishonest? That he is selling software that is intentionally destabilizing? Have you bothered to read his blog? Much more likely you're just reiterating the accusatory drivel that other end-users have posted WITHOUT solid evidence.

And any software labeled as Beta from any developer should always be considered unfinished and therefore optional. Complaining about Beta releases is silly.  
(Version 2.5b2)

KOSOVAR1  Dishonest? Drivel?

Ummm, NO, I based my comments on years of using and experimenting with AE and wth Shapeshifter. I said that I kept coming back to AE because I really enjoyed Shapeshifter, but also that I had to keep uninstalling it because I could see that my system crashed more frequently with AE installed or that there were certain unattractive visual artifacts that were only present with Shapeshifter. I'm not trying to PROVE anything, but I can certainly make some reasonable assumptions about AE and Shapeshifter based on my years of experience using them. And I mention this because I simply DON't LIKE the idea that some company is making money by selling (or merely providing) a product that is potentially or apparently destabilizing to a heretofore well-functioning Mac system. That AE is not entirely stable is an opinion that I gained through much personal experience using it, but it is an opinion that is shared by many, many other users in the Mac community expressed over a period of years. I paid for Shapeshifter and two other utilities that use AE and, since OSX 10.5, cannot use them. I would love the developer to make them work again,but work WELL and not impose a new charge. I rather think I should charge Unsanity for many hours of system down-time from crashes and the frustration I experienced while using AE/Shapeshifter.  
(Version 2.5b2)

TUISHIMI  Sorry! Forgot to mention:

iMac 2.4 core 2 duo, Mac OS X 10.5.2.  
(Version 2.5b1)

HELIOS9  If your haxies don't work after installing APE 2.5b1, see if it was installed in HD/Library/Preference Panes. If so, try dragging it out and into your home folder's Preference Pane, ~/Library/Preference Panes (If you have the previous APE there, move it to the trash). That worked for me(of course, restarting your Mac is worth doing).

Dunno why APE 2.5b1 initially didn't work for me until I moved it as explained above.

Also note that the new APE icon is graphically different from the previous one; the one shown in this

Macupdate posting is the old icon.

The new one is light blue in color rather than dark blue as shown here.  
(Version 2.5b1)

TUISHIMI  No, I started from a fresh OS X install. Checked that, it's the current APE only. Ah well.  
(Version 2.5b1)

TUISHIMI  Oh wait! I misread! I will try moving it from system to user library.  
(Version 2.5b1)