HIPPEMAN  I'm not sure if this update is working at all! After installing the patch for AE the version is still v8.0.1

The creation date of the patcher is the 2nd of august 2007.. so this can't be v8.0.2 am I right?  
(Version 8.0.2)

ISLANDMACMAN  This is a difficult to master program and not the kind you can jump in and learn in 2 minutes, so tough. Read some online tutorials, buy a book...

Even with some of the interface changes, it's still a great app. It's gotten faster than 6.5, and openGL works better.  
(Version 7.0)

ANONYMOUS  (+) Impressive software. Works fine in Tiger.

(-) Not easy to master.

BTW don't judge it because you don't know how to use it ;-)  
(Version 6.5.1)

ANONYMOUS  I experienced the same problem with AfterEffects 6.5.1, running on Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) with german localization with austrian keyboard layout. When i'm turning to the german keyboard layout it works fine.  
(Version 6.5.1)

ANONYMOUS  KCHR doesn´t work in Tiger.

Keyboard short cuts  
(Version 6.5.1)

U-MAN  Its right that you can achieve good results in AE (if you use this app for years), but like many other users here already said, there are many disappointments. Hybrid (Mac PC) Network Rendering is terrible. The need to translate your whole footage into TGAs, only to achieve accurate results (for the same colour and brightness), thats really terrible. Not so optimized to dual machines. Absolutelly not user-friendly (its ok for those who worked ten years with AE or so). In other words, if you plan to do a big job, dont do it in AE. Adobe is losing my faith and sooner or later, I only will use Photoshop from Adobe.  
(Version 6.5.1)

SO...  No motiondesigner can do without AE. Apple have a lot of work to do before Motion can compete. If you just do production of very basic stuff Motion will do, but advanced animation, forget it.  
(Version 6.5.1)

ARON HAGERMAN  While Motion is a nice app it´s no where NEAR After effects in feauters. And I pretty sure won´t replace After effects in many years.

Things that in my opinion makes afx superior to motion :

3d space. (a total must have)

Painting options.

Script controll.

Integration to Photoshop and Illustrator.

Network rendering.

Quality of the renders.

To say that After effects is a product that´s over, is as stupid as saying that Photoshop is over..

The only thing I can see that motion have an advantage in is the speed necessary for very quick broadcast graphics.  
(Version 6.5.1)

PETER MONDIAC  I wonder how I could have worked all the last years with AAE. So much wasted time it's absolutely incredible. Anway. What's wrong about AAE?

Well, the QuickTime engine isn't used to it's full extend. No automated workflow supported (on the Mac and PC as well). You have to wait till it's ready to kick out the next job. One week with Motion means I get timely home after 6 - 8 hours. One week with AAE means I have to wait till the rendered file is exported and only now I can start the next job. A boring and time wasting approach. When I was working on Adobe After Effects I had to work 12 - 16 peer day, because a job goes only out the customer when it's done. Need I say more?

And since Encore DVD 1.5 is a crashing piece of software it was easy to give up the Adobe Video Collection and switch completely to the Mac with Mac OS X 10.3 and PowerMac G5s.

And the PCs were double CPU machines with many Gigs of RAM, too and the fastest available graphic cards.

It's time for Adobe to rethink their Video Collection. Release 0.75 beta would be a better description.

One thing is clear, after worrying years about After Effects on the Mac (and the PC), the direction is so clear, goodbye PC and goodbye AAE and Adobe Video Collection. We have switched just 50% of all workplaces with new G5s and Apple's Production Suite. And if even diehard win xp users didn't worry about using Motion and Apple's Production Suite, so it couldn't be any clearer!! The time of Adobe's Video Collection and After Effects is over that's sure!!!   
(Version 6.5)

ANONYMOUS  I have used AE since version 1.0 and aside from the creative things hat can be accomplished it has been nothing but a headache...

Let me explain...

How many users out there can relate. Time is money right? How many projects have you been under the gun (especially television production) and with the evolving level of production quality and creativity that goes into a project the process shouldn't be hampered by the slow redraw response (:10 to 1:00+ a frame (HD)) and lengthly render times especially on duel motherboards and 64 bit processors.

For instance, last month I completed a job in a week. You might say wow what's this moron complaining about? Well in the world of After Effects a job that takes a week isn't a week in normal job hours. A one week project could (and has many times) consisted of 120+ hours to get a graphic and effects intense product to full completion.

I personally am sick of it and now have switched to Motion. Motion is heads above the headaches and painstaking snail development os AE. Even with it's numerous bugs and being version 1.0 I can save 80 hours on a one week project.

The lousy response by Adobe in upgrading their programming and (NO) integration with Apple / PC 64 bit / duel processors (which have been out for how long?) and enormous RAM hog architecture is pitiful by the so called standard program for motion design.

Let me give you an example...

I timed a HD :22 second long HD project I did between 3 different computers and here are the render times...

Del Xeon duel 2.8 with 2 GIGs of RAM

3 hours 31 mins

(home built CPU) Intel P4 3.0 with single 2 GIGs of RAM

4 hours 10 mins

here's the kicker....

Apple Duel 2.0 with 4 Gigs of RAM

3 hours 47 mins

Now I haven't tried motion on an HD project (yet) but I have used it quite extensively and what used to take me hours in AE is done in minutes with Motion.

Need I say more...

Goodbye Adobe.... And by the way if you can send me the hair I lost the past ten or so years from the stress caused by your poor product I'd appreciate it.   
(Version 6.5)