THUS.SPAKE.Z  Hey there, dude. Another "Christian" hypocrite, right? Wish you could hack, slash and stab the unbelievers out of existencee, huh? Or threaten them into accepting the Lord at sword point? Too bad we can't bring back the Crusades for ya.

Anyway, Go Jesus.....kill, kill, kill in his name. Yeah! Slaughter them all. Remember Jesus loves ya, right? Acompanied by a rousing rendition of "Onward Christian Soldiers. no?  
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PONTI  Hey Z, Gaoshan's post just may have been meant as sarcasm. I share your apparent revulsion for hypocritical, intolerant, obnoxious, dogma spewing bible thumpers but you might want to rethink

your barbed response to that post in light of its possible sarcastic intent.  
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BEFF  "Intelletualis amor Dei

Sub specie aeternitatis

Beff  
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HALEAKALARI  in light of your conjugated spinoza citation(s) [although lightly misspelled] i will recant my usage of the word "moron". i am familiar with "spinozaian pantheism" but will note the following; somewhat ironically, its vocabulary/logic is often used to describe or validate the concept of a singular god, especially in regard to judeo-christian esoteric/mystical traditions.

although you could consider this to be negative, it is quite positive to me. a non-personified singular "god concept" which can be argued through reason is highly preferable to a quasi-singular personified "god concept" which can only be argued through repetition. the point is that the judeo-christian concept of god, if one so wishes, can be easily reconciled with "spinozaian pantheism", yielding a kind of logical panentheism. this reconciliation actually allows for the further development/enhancement of [the more stringent and] true monotheism.

in-fact there seem to be many natural parallels and lucid connections between gnostic cosmologies of the judeo-christian persuasion and later "spinozaian pantheism" (which arguably expounds upon certain aristotelian concepts, amongst others as well).

none-the-less, i maintain that the religious scriptures [including non-judeo-christian flavours] of antiquity still hold great value (and rightly so) in the fields of the humanities.  
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BEFF  Hi again , my "vedian" friend.

A missing centum is a world to us, not to horses of Eocene. Feet above ground are relative.

I thought "homo cogitat" where the essence, and that this is a corollary of both my citations.

A singular good will be a to narrow outlook.

Consider this:(norwegian)

"Og når det vise menneske har sett 
at alle ting som lever, lever i
 hans eget selv, blir han omsider fri 
for illusjon. Han ser at alt er ett."


From: Isha Upanishad

Quality of insight vaporize illusion.

Hence my comment:

"Apps with a historical/political angle are of the fruitful flavour".

The historical value of religious phenomenons are not a dispute of mine.

Promoting religious ideas returns complex philosophic thesis.

"Cocaine and religion will both make you high".

Jim Morrison

Van Morrison says in "Dweller On the Threshold":

- Feel the angel of the present

In the mighty crystal fire

Lift me up and soothe my darkness

Let me travel evan higher -

These animations are of human origin. Religious systems abuse human sentiments.

The core idea of any religion is repetition, -every sunday, 5 times a day - and is crucial to its standing.

Referring to South Africa, April 1993, Mandela addressed the nation appealing for calm:

"Tonight I am reaching out to every single South African, black and white, from the very depths of my being. A white man, full of prejudice and hate, came to our country and committed a deed so foul that our whole nation now teeters on the brink of disaster. A white woman, of Afrikaner origin, risked her life so that we may know, and bring to justice, this assassin. The cold-blooded murder of Chris Hani has sent shock waves throughout the country and the world. ...Now is the time for all South Africans to stand together against those who, from any quarter, wish to destroy what Chris Hani gave his life for – the freedom of all of us."

Mr. Mandelas (90 year a few days ago) philosophy has not been repeated in South Africa according to recent news.

The human brain is a small match for the human brain.

MacUpdates admin may not concur us having this discursive at MacUpdate.

I like our saturday-sword-fight, so if another forum is recommended, I´ll join you.

Looking forward to your response. Have a nice week HALEAKALARI.

Best regards from your new found friend; Terje  
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IGREG  I vote that anti Christian bigots be banned from posting on MacUpdate.  
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ST00P!D M0NK3Y  Grow up, Beff. There's also a lot of historical significance to the bible that you seem to be unaware of. I'm not speaking from a Christian standpoint, but you are a close-minded arrogant human being.  
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