Camino is an open-source web browser developed with a focus on providing the best possible experience for Mac OS X users.
The Camino Project has worked to create a browser that is as functional and elegant as the computers it runs on. The Camino web browser is powerful, secure, and ready to meet the needs of all users while remaining simple and elegant in its design.
Camino combines the awesome visual and behavioral experience that has been central to the Macintosh philosophy with the powerful web-browsing capabilities of the Gecko rendering engine.
What's New
Version 2.1.2:
Upgraded to version 1.9.2.28 of the Mozilla Gecko rendering engine, which includes several critical security and stability fixes.
Tried it again, after a year and it still doesn't render pages well on some sites, especially with Flash.
Used it as my favorite browser for years, when all Mac browsers did't fare too well in rendering more than a few sites.
Some irritants have been fixed. Still fast and uses little memory and cpu.
Work on the Flash issue or HTML5 and it should be great. Handles cookies Far better than Safari.
Terrible for popups and popunders, still.
"Pimped my Camino" very lightly the last time I brought it out of hibernation and it seemed to make it worse in most respects.
Freezes more than other browsers.
Forgot to thank all involved in the making, continued development and maintenance of Camino. Your time and work Are appreciated.
Now fix the dang Flash and popup issues. = )
Thanks.
My preferred browser for many years, especially because of its capacity to work when very restrictive security parameters are chosen. However, Camino's cookie blocking option does not work against cookies whose name starts with a dot, in particular the much problematic .atmdt.com cookies (that keep passing, even when connections to atmdt.com are blocked using sudo nano /etc/hosts)
AWSOME very fast but the UI come on it is 2011 I remember we used this UI in what 2003?
Get a grip Camino project. Not it is not just about looks but when I look at this it is so naff and ruins my experience.
Get Firefox add-ons working in it and you got the best browser in the world there.
This seems a hobby project to make a fast ass browser not to make it feature or UI rich. So I don't really use it as it seems only for the developers to play in and they are blind to easy it would be to be the developers of the best browser and not some hobby thing.
Most of the code is not theirs it is Mozilla's they can't sell it. Who would buy it? There is many better browsers on the Mac now for free or tiny fee.
It is a hobby project nothing more and know body would ever buy it or could they ever sell it as it is not commercial grade software. It lacks soooo many modern features people demand now.
I like it but take it for what it is a dying on the vine hobby project.
Been using Camino since v,0.8. I like browser that's fast and simple and Camino does that for me. And for you PPC users, Camino is still the best for PPC machines.
Thanks again to Uncle Asad and the dedicated Camino developer team. I keep trying to use those "advanced" browsers like Firefox, Chrome and Safari; but I keep coming back again and again to Camino as my default browser. It's fast, light, simple and beautiful.
I really can't use this because of one simple reason...
The "Annoyance Blocker" does not work nearly as well, nor is as flexible, as AdBlock Plus in Firefox.
I gave it a go as my default browser for 2 weeks and the ads everywhere, finally got to me.
I'll say one thing though, when watching Flash (YouTube) video, or Silverlight Video (Netflix), Camino seems to use a lot less resources than Safari, Chrome, or Firefox. So Camino has become my "Netflix & Youtube Browser", just because of that :)
Can you file a bug (http://caminobrowser.org/documentation/bugzilla/#found) on the unblocked ads (or at least some of them)? We do try to update our ad-blocking rules for each release… I don't see very many ads, but we must visit different collections of sites ;-)
Also, beginning in 2.1 it's easier to supplement the built-in ad-blocking rules (see user_ad_blocking.css in the profile's chrome folder) or to install more stringent content-blockers (e.g., XPCOM components like https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=656584).
@chris: you might check GlimmerBlocker – I started using it on my old MacBook, getting sluggish with AdBlockers etc.
It needs some configuration (basically adding rule sets), but works for all browsers and other apps alike.
I want to thank this poster for this extremely useful entry. I too had been baffled by the extremely high CPU for Netflix in Safari (pushing 100%) and Firefox (about 85%) on my 2.26 MacBook. (Didn't try Chrome.) On Camino it hovers around 50% (still excessive just to play video, but much improved.) (Up yours, Silverlight).
I'm afraid that Camino has been overtaken by Firefox and Safari, not to mention the Chrome offshoots, i.e., Chromium, SRware Iron, even Roccat.
Camino, for me, is dog slow and tired when compared to the others; featurewise it just doesn't measure up. Camino will likely die a slow death.
However, if it floats your boat, enjoy it while it's still around. Anyway,one can do better.
recent new lease of life put camino back on my mac and even in the dock - for some reason it always worked on some sites which others really struggled with. but something's really wrong with 2.1 (even the core2duo specific builds) as it can't get itself going even on google. despite this am happy camino's back and have i faith that the dev will fix all. (ignore my rating as firefox was playing up)
leninmonkey: It sounds like you might also be hitting the problem where certain routers misbehave badly when DNS prefetch is in use (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=706969).
Check your router to see if it has firmware updates available. If not, or if the firmware update doesn't help, download a nightly build of what will become 2.1.1 (http://caminobrowser.org/contribute/#nightly) and disable DNS prefetch (http://caminobrowser.org/documentation/hiddenprefs/#aboutConfig & http://caminobrowser.org/documentation/hiddenprefs/#ControlDNSPrefetch). That should return Camino 2.1 to the speed you're used to from Camino 2.0.9.
If you need more assistance, please visit the support forum: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=12
Even the developer can't give me a single reason why I might like Camino better than Safari or Firefox.
I recently contacted them, and here's our email messages:
ME:
"On the homepage, there this link that says "We’ve created a page which points out some of the common differences between Camino and Safari ..."
But on that page there is NO comparison, just paragraphs explaining how to migrate from Safari. I want to see a chart or screenshots or, preferably, a screencast showing the differences.
On the What makes Camino special? page, everything I see looks just like what Safari and Firefox already do, so why would I want to switch? Is it faster, uses less resources (Safari's a hog!), what?
QUOTE: "Built from the ground up exclusively for Mac OS X, Camino is designed to make your browsing experience better. With features like annoyance blocking, tab overview, and phishing and malware detection, Camino keeps you browsing safer and faster on the Web."
Safari and FF both have annoyance blocking and tab overview, as well as anti-phishing and malware protection. So, what makes Camino so great?
I'd need a very good reason to invest the amount of time necessary to setup and learn a new browser. And then there's Opera, which I know nothing about, but hate the name."
CAMINO DEV'S REPLY:
"Taste in browsers is extremely personal; everyone has a different idea
about what differences are important. No matter what we put on the web
site, the only way for someone to find out if they like Camino better
than other browsers is to try it for themselves.
We continue developing Camino because many people like it, and we want
to keep offering that choice--we aren't trying to convince people to
switch if they aren't interested.
It sounds like you are happy with the browser you are using then,
which is great!
Stuart Morgan
Camino Developer"
ME:
"So, you can't tell me a single thing about how Camino is different or better than Safari or Firefox? That doesn't say much for Camino!
Doesn't matter how happy I am with them - if there's some valid reason to change, or at least try another, I would.
But they must be faster, easier, less resource-hogging or SOMETHING! If they're nearly identical in all aspects, why bother?
When I buy a new car, I don't buy the same year, and model as the last, I want one that's newer, faster or better in some regard."
CAMINO DEV'S REPLY:
"I could tell you about lots of differences--or you try Camino, for
free, and see them for yourself. I can't tell you what's "better"
because it's subjective. I have yet to see a browser that some people
don't claim is faster than all the other browsers they tried, or takes
fewer resources than the other browsers they've tried, or has the best
feature set of all the browsers they've tried.
Camino is developed by volunteers, working in our free time. I'd much
rather spend my free time improving Camino than trying to hard-sell it
to people. If you want to try Camino and see if you like it better
than your current browser, great! If not, that's fine with us too.
We're not selling cars; we don't have a financial interest in
convincing you to use Camino.
Stuart Morgan
Camino Developer"
Although I took the time twice to inquire as to the benefits of Camino, not a single one was noted - all I was given was a bad impression of it.
Stuart seems pompous and apathetic - he said he could tell me "about lots of differences," but didn't.
Evidently, Camino isn't faster, easier or better in any way, just different, and that's not enough to make me switch. It's not as simple as installing and knowing within minutes if I like it; At a minimum it will take several hours to discover all the features of a new browser and to know if I want to continue using it. I'm not willing to invest that much time without knowing WHY I might want to try it, and if Stuart's attitude is an omen of the way Camino's dev's respond to questions and support issues, I'll pass.
To get your 1Password working in Camino (if « unsupported version »)
- Quit 1Password and Camino
- Show Package Contents of 1Password
- Open Contents > Resources
- Open SupportedBrowsers.plist in a text editor or a plist editor
- In the org.mozilla.camino section, Change MaxBundleVersion to 2010.05.20 (for 2.0.7)
- save
I found this trick at Agile's forum, you have to change the date for more recent versions (something like 2012.12.31)
I recently noticed that this very site (MacUpdate) doesn't behave the same in Camino than in Safari or Firefox!!!
- the top apps of the day (listed in red) are less (today 1 in Camino, 4 in the others — the 3 missing ones don't even show at all)
- when you search for an app via the search field, it gives less or no results (try searching for "Camino", it drops you directly on "Camino Frost" while the others give you 48 results! Search for Cocktail or Awaken: no results! — 13 and 6 for the others respectively)
Another brick in the wall... :-(
I've trashed my app support/Camino folder and it now behaves correctly on Macupdate... probably some corrupt file there inherited from a previous version! I now have to retry the few sites that gave me problems until then, such as Youtube, myspace, facebook...
No problem, you can delete them! :-)
(though it might be useful to someone having the same problem, ain't it?)
For months I thought my searches on macupdate giving no result were a bug from MU, before having the idea to trash things... ;-)
I would really love Camino 2 as a browser, except for one really annoying bug:
On 4 separate PPC computers running 10.4.11, Camino (and all other Mozilla products I have tested) show multiple page scrolling when clicking once in the scroll bar below the scroll thumb (or above, once it multiple-scrolls down). My primary computer is a G3 Pismo, but I have also seen this on a G4 Cube, G4 iBook, and G4 PowerBook. This bug is annoying enough to keep me away from all of the Mozilla programs, except for Camino, which is good enough to keep me coming back.
Has anyone else seen this behavior, and/or have a suggestion for a fix (other than avoiding trying to use the GUI in a way in which it is _supposed_ to work, and works in all other applications)?
...and yes, I did submit a bug report to the Camino development team when Camino 2 was still in beta, but the outcome was that since this was not a Camino-specific bug, it wasn't their problem.
having tried this latest version of camino and have been really impressed with it, especially blocking flash ads and the like and being a lot faster than safari
......but
once i am in my yahoo account the IM in new yahoo mail does not work, it either hangs showing no contacts or sometimes shows who is online but cannot open chat window with them ( i think this is fault (4277742 ) on the bugzilla page for camino a few other people have reported this, i tried sea monkey and the IM in new yahoo mail works fine.
It's a real shame but for me this is a deal breaker so i may have to stick with safari for now as much as i liked sea monkey it had feel of pc about it ( but that is just my feeling about it ) may give it another try,
so looks like i have to wait for this to be worked out ( like i said a real shame )
If you're experiencing crashes with Camino, please report them using the Camino Crash Reporter, and if you have persistent crashes, please post in the forum or file a bug.
We've established the causes of some common crashes already; see http://caminobrowser.org/blog/2009/#camino2update for more information, fixes, and work-arounds (as well as links to both the forum and information about reporting bugs).
Problem with 2.0 not working with 1Password 2.11.1, icon does not show in toolbar, nor does it show when you try to customize toolbar, still running Mac 10.4 Tiger.
1Password 2.11.1 is enable in the Browser preferences for Camino 2.0 in 1Password and still no icon in toolbar or when trying to customize toolbar. Funny thing happen, activated Camino under another user name but disabled 1Password first, Camino still warned me about 1Password may not be compatible with Camino 2.0.
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Camino is an open-source web browser developed with a focus on providing the best possible experience for Mac OS X users.
The Camino Project has worked to create a browser that is as functional and elegant as the computers it runs on. The Camino web browser is powerful, secure, and ready to meet the needs of all users while remaining simple and elegant in its design.
Camino combines the awesome visual and behavioral experience that has been central to the Macintosh philosophy with the powerful web-browsing capabilities of the Gecko rendering engine.
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Batdan reviewed on 24 May 2012
Used it as my favorite browser for years, when all Mac browsers did't fare too well in rendering more than a few sites.
Some irritants have been fixed. Still fast and uses little memory and cpu.
Work on the Flash issue or HTML5 and it should be great. Handles cookies Far better than Safari.
Terrible for popups and popunders, still.
"Pimped my Camino" very lightly the last time I brought it out of hibernation and it seemed to make it worse in most respects.
Freezes more than other browsers.
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Now fix the dang Flash and popup issues. = )
Thanks.
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An.onymous reviewed on 19 Apr 2012
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Get a grip Camino project. Not it is not just about looks but when I look at this it is so naff and ruins my experience.
Get Firefox add-ons working in it and you got the best browser in the world there.
This seems a hobby project to make a fast ass browser not to make it feature or UI rich. So I don't really use it as it seems only for the developers to play in and they are blind to easy it would be to be the developers of the best browser and not some hobby thing.
Sad but AWSOME talk about a dichotomy.
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Well it doesn't seem like a business since it is given away freely! If I had a product this good it would be for sale
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It is a hobby project nothing more and know body would ever buy it or could they ever sell it as it is not commercial grade software. It lacks soooo many modern features people demand now.
I like it but take it for what it is a dying on the vine hobby project.
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Snoebay reviewed on 15 Mar 2012
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Tintonium reviewed on 15 Feb 2012
When some file is downloaded from the web with Camino the Finder stops working normally and has to be relaunched.
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chriscosta reviewed on 20 Dec 2011
The "Annoyance Blocker" does not work nearly as well, nor is as flexible, as AdBlock Plus in Firefox.
I gave it a go as my default browser for 2 weeks and the ads everywhere, finally got to me.
I'll say one thing though, when watching Flash (YouTube) video, or Silverlight Video (Netflix), Camino seems to use a lot less resources than Safari, Chrome, or Firefox. So Camino has become my "Netflix & Youtube Browser", just because of that :)
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Also, beginning in 2.1 it's easier to supplement the built-in ad-blocking rules (see user_ad_blocking.css in the profile's chrome folder) or to install more stringent content-blockers (e.g., XPCOM components like https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=656584).
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It needs some configuration (basically adding rule sets), but works for all browsers and other apps alike.
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Camino, for me, is dog slow and tired when compared to the others; featurewise it just doesn't measure up. Camino will likely die a slow death.
However, if it floats your boat, enjoy it while it's still around. Anyway,one can do better.
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leninmonkey reviewed on 05 Dec 2011
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Check your router to see if it has firmware updates available. If not, or if the firmware update doesn't help, download a nightly build of what will become 2.1.1 (http://caminobrowser.org/contribute/#nightly) and disable DNS prefetch (http://caminobrowser.org/documentation/hiddenprefs/#aboutConfig & http://caminobrowser.org/documentation/hiddenprefs/#ControlDNSPrefetch). That should return Camino 2.1 to the speed you're used to from Camino 2.0.9.
If you need more assistance, please visit the support forum: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=12
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Even the developer can't give me a single reason why I might like Camino better than Safari or Firefox.
I recently contacted them, and here's our email messages:
ME:
"On the homepage, there this link that says "We’ve created a page which points out some of the common differences between Camino and Safari ..."
But on that page there is NO comparison, just paragraphs explaining how to migrate from Safari. I want to see a chart or screenshots or, preferably, a screencast showing the differences.
On the What makes Camino special? page, everything I see looks just like what Safari and Firefox already do, so why would I want to switch? Is it faster, uses less resources (Safari's a hog!), what?
QUOTE: "Built from the ground up exclusively for Mac OS X, Camino is designed to make your browsing experience better. With features like annoyance blocking, tab overview, and phishing and malware detection, Camino keeps you browsing safer and faster on the Web."
Safari and FF both have annoyance blocking and tab overview, as well as anti-phishing and malware protection. So, what makes Camino so great?
I'd need a very good reason to invest the amount of time necessary to setup and learn a new browser. And then there's Opera, which I know nothing about, but hate the name."
CAMINO DEV'S REPLY:
"Taste in browsers is extremely personal; everyone has a different idea
about what differences are important. No matter what we put on the web
site, the only way for someone to find out if they like Camino better
than other browsers is to try it for themselves.
We continue developing Camino because many people like it, and we want
to keep offering that choice--we aren't trying to convince people to
switch if they aren't interested.
It sounds like you are happy with the browser you are using then,
which is great!
Stuart Morgan
Camino Developer"
ME:
"So, you can't tell me a single thing about how Camino is different or better than Safari or Firefox? That doesn't say much for Camino!
Doesn't matter how happy I am with them - if there's some valid reason to change, or at least try another, I would.
But they must be faster, easier, less resource-hogging or SOMETHING! If they're nearly identical in all aspects, why bother?
When I buy a new car, I don't buy the same year, and model as the last, I want one that's newer, faster or better in some regard."
CAMINO DEV'S REPLY:
"I could tell you about lots of differences--or you try Camino, for
free, and see them for yourself. I can't tell you what's "better"
because it's subjective. I have yet to see a browser that some people
don't claim is faster than all the other browsers they tried, or takes
fewer resources than the other browsers they've tried, or has the best
feature set of all the browsers they've tried.
Camino is developed by volunteers, working in our free time. I'd much
rather spend my free time improving Camino than trying to hard-sell it
to people. If you want to try Camino and see if you like it better
than your current browser, great! If not, that's fine with us too.
We're not selling cars; we don't have a financial interest in
convincing you to use Camino.
Stuart Morgan
Camino Developer"
Although I took the time twice to inquire as to the benefits of Camino, not a single one was noted - all I was given was a bad impression of it.
Stuart seems pompous and apathetic - he said he could tell me "about lots of differences," but didn't.
Evidently, Camino isn't faster, easier or better in any way, just different, and that's not enough to make me switch. It's not as simple as installing and knowing within minutes if I like it; At a minimum it will take several hours to discover all the features of a new browser and to know if I want to continue using it. I'm not willing to invest that much time without knowing WHY I might want to try it, and if Stuart's attitude is an omen of the way Camino's dev's respond to questions and support issues, I'll pass.
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- Quit 1Password and Camino
- Show Package Contents of 1Password
- Open Contents > Resources
- Open SupportedBrowsers.plist in a text editor or a plist editor
- In the org.mozilla.camino section, Change MaxBundleVersion to 2010.05.20 (for 2.0.7)
- save
I found this trick at Agile's forum, you have to change the date for more recent versions (something like 2012.12.31)
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- the top apps of the day (listed in red) are less (today 1 in Camino, 4 in the others — the 3 missing ones don't even show at all)
- when you search for an app via the search field, it gives less or no results (try searching for "Camino", it drops you directly on "Camino Frost" while the others give you 48 results! Search for Cocktail or Awaken: no results! — 13 and 6 for the others respectively)
Another brick in the wall... :-(
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(though it might be useful to someone having the same problem, ain't it?)
For months I thought my searches on macupdate giving no result were a bug from MU, before having the idea to trash things... ;-)
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On 4 separate PPC computers running 10.4.11, Camino (and all other Mozilla products I have tested) show multiple page scrolling when clicking once in the scroll bar below the scroll thumb (or above, once it multiple-scrolls down). My primary computer is a G3 Pismo, but I have also seen this on a G4 Cube, G4 iBook, and G4 PowerBook. This bug is annoying enough to keep me away from all of the Mozilla programs, except for Camino, which is good enough to keep me coming back.
Has anyone else seen this behavior, and/or have a suggestion for a fix (other than avoiding trying to use the GUI in a way in which it is _supposed_ to work, and works in all other applications)?
...and yes, I did submit a bug report to the Camino development team when Camino 2 was still in beta, but the outcome was that since this was not a Camino-specific bug, it wasn't their problem.
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......but
once i am in my yahoo account the IM in new yahoo mail does not work, it either hangs showing no contacts or sometimes shows who is online but cannot open chat window with them ( i think this is fault (4277742 ) on the bugzilla page for camino a few other people have reported this, i tried sea monkey and the IM in new yahoo mail works fine.
It's a real shame but for me this is a deal breaker so i may have to stick with safari for now as much as i liked sea monkey it had feel of pc about it ( but that is just my feeling about it ) may give it another try,
so looks like i have to wait for this to be worked out ( like i said a real shame )
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We've established the causes of some common crashes already; see http://caminobrowser.org/blog/2009/#camino2update for more information, fixes, and work-arounds (as well as links to both the forum and information about reporting bugs).
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http://support.agilewebsolutions.com/showpost.php?p=97347&postcount=10
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Seems auto-update missed something, so downloaded a news dmg, and now it works OK.
Process: Camino [7832]
Path: /Applications/Camino.app/Contents/MacOS/Camino
Identifier: org.mozilla.camino
Version: ??? (???)
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [388]
Date/Time: 2008-12-29 08:59:33.738 +0000
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.5 (9F33)
Report Version: 6
Exception Type: EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000002, 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread: 0
Dyld Error Message:
Library not loaded: @executable_path/libxpcom.dylib
Referenced from: /Applications/Camino.app/Contents/MacOS/Camino
Reason: image not found
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