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| Downloads:116,323 |
| Version Downloads:4,228 |
| Type:Multimedia & Design : Author Tools |
| License:Updater |
| Date:20 Oct 2011 |
| Platform:Intel |
| Price: $699.00 |
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Mark Lee reviewed on 29 Dec 2011
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Xplicit reviewed on 05 Dec 2011
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Twisted reviewed on 03 Sep 2011
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If you are having trouble or time consuming experiences using it, then maybe you should choose software that is designed to do the ... little things ... that you require done.
As far as price, look at the cost of the other software available in its category.
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Maybe one of those apps is more suitable for what you need to do.
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It's an arabic language manual: many professionals are working on it with a lot of effort, hard work and commitment, so I don’t understand why you are so prone to judge it as a “little thing”.
We spent a lot of money to buy inDesign, as well months to study how it works. And exactly as Rsoldin suggests, it seems written 20 years ago. Computers, software, and Mac OS evolved a lot since then. Now, it’s a year I'm working with inDesign. Despite I’m 70% satisfied with the result and accepted all the compromises due to the software's limitations, after a lot of sleepless nights and blood, I feel I have the right to curse Adobe for its low quality software and horrendous user interface. It’s slow, crashes often, bugged, it misses basic features, it’s inconsistent and hard to use. I understand many old professionals want to keep their hard gained experience as an advantage on others younger publishers, but this doesn’t help to make a friendly community or a better software. It just gives Adobe a reason to keep their prices so damn high for such low quality products.
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I am a book production specialist and after reading your last statement here, I think you are using ID for things that can be done outside the software. You are creating one book (your first), there are many frustrating things in creating your first book, I deal with first time authors understanding for hat they need to do.
What I think you should do is concentrate on your book material (content) getting it just right...use a word processor...then contact a professional book designer and have them do the work that InDesign is designed to do. People just don't seem to get it, InDesign is a tool for book production and other things, its not a word processor. It has the story editor that can handle text changes and allow people to work together on the same book, but its not made for writing a book. Use a word processor, then use the import feature to get it in to InDesign. Then the magic will begin for design and layout.
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So I know I’m using the software as it is designed for, as Adobe publicize and as the manual teach me. I know what I’m talking about, as designer, author and Mac OS developer.
By saying it is on top these days, you confirm again my review: is the lack of alternatives that makes InDesign a good tool: but sorry, this is not enough for me, in 2011 and for that price. This could be because the market for this kind of software is old and outdated, or the user community is made by old people, so Adobe customers are content with what they have: they don’t have the flexibility to change their approach.
I’m not. I’m young, fresh and new. So I’m asking for a better designed software supporting my creativity, my knowledge and my needs. Software that follows the right HIGs and helps the not-yet-professionals to become professionals, by exploiting the last technology developed in the recent years. With recent developments in this area, it is time for Adobe and professionals give way to innovation, instead of fearing an honest opinion on the status quo.
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“We’re hearing a number of reports that there may be some significant problems with third-party plug-ins after you update InDesign CS5.5 to version 7.5.1.”
http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/4524/adobe-indesign-cs5
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http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4878
Installed it but ID now doesn't launch anymore. Anyone else having trouble with it?
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Zapp Brannigan reviewed on 11 Jun 2010
Finally you still can't save it to an earlier version of InDesign! This is unacceptable. Not all print shops (in fact, most) can afford to upgrade to CS5. The inability to save it as CS4 or CS3 is utterly unacceptable. Having to export it as an .idml file, re-open it in CS4, export again to a CS3 .idml file is ludicrous. Shame on Adobe for not even allowing users this simple functionality AT THIS PRICE!.
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I ran into this problem, too and wondered at first. CS5 can use instant redraw for everything but on recent video cards it makes no sense … yet.
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That said: I will not be giving any more money to Adobe Systems. I am not allowed to upgrade just the InDesign app from the suite. I either have to purchase an upgrade to the whole suite of apps--most of which I do not use--or do a complete separate purchase of InDesign as a stand-alone (at a much higher price than the simple upgrade to the one app.). Add to this a customer service department that is antedated and ridiculous to navigate through and very customer un-friendly.
Unfortunately, what this means is that I will have to trash all my Adobe apps when I upgrade to Leopard, since nothing before CS3 works with Leopard.
Long story short: If you are a design professional and need to keep on top of the current app upgrades (and can use each purchase as a tax write-off) of if you are loaded with lots of money and don't mind spending hundreds of dollars on each upgrade, knock yourself out. But if you are not wealthy and do not need all the bells and whistles, forget Adobe and go with something else--Pages comes to mind.
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Now, I'm not going to tell you I use it for much more than laying out a few pages (I don't use many, if any of the bells and whistles) so there may very well be specific things that don't work in Leopard that I'm just not using.
But, on the whole, InDesign CS2 does launch and work in Leopard.
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As it happens... I am staying well clear of ID CS4... it offers little over CS3... except for more money in Adobes very deep pocket...
I am gonna hold off for the 64bit versions of all the apps in CS5.
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I appreciate your input on this…
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So, I can 100% attest to the fact that they work well. : ]
I would do a fresh install of the CS2 Library and such instead of migrating it. I think it just helps it work better.
Hope this helps!
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Now, InDesign identifies itself in the Finder and in its start-up banner as version 5.0.3, but once it's loaded and I open its Info window, it says it's version 5.0.4. So, what to believe? It's probably a partial installation of 5.0.4 with some components not updated, but it's impossible to tell because there's no log file, and there wasn't even any indication whatsoever of progress from the updater, or even any sign of what it was doing.
I suppose I should be grateful that my copy of InDesign does at least still work (a previous updater once rendered it incapable of launching), but this is far from impressive. In fact, I've had no end of trouble with the CS3 installers in general. When I first installed CS3 on my brand-new 2.8GHz Mac Pro a few months ago, it took literally days to get everything installed successfully, with many forced restarts of the system, because the Adobe installers were so hopeless and just got stuck at different stages (and indeed locked up my computer - hence the forced restarts); I had to try most of them several times before they worked. And that was on a brand-new, 'vanilla' Mac Pro with no other software installed that might have interfered with Adobe's installer. (Oddly enough, I had no problems at all with installing on my previous G5, which died and forced the purchase of the new Mac Pro.)
The software's great once it's installed and working, but I can't believe how much hassle I've had from Adobe's installers and updaters. They're an absolute nightmare, and who wants to risk their working installations being ruined by dodgy installer software? I remember having problems with Adobe installers before (e.g. with the original CS applications). Installers shouldn't be rocket science, and it's high time that Adobe made its installers much more robust and foolproof. There's thousands of pounds of software at stake, per user, in the Creative Suites, and it's mission-critical for the majority of its users. The last thing the customer needs is to have their system messed up by an unreliable updater application.
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D9 reviewed on 16 Oct 2008
Add to this the long running yet still unresolved Adobe bug in InDesign that prevents keystroke Hide (Command + H) to work until you restart the program. It's just pathetic!! I really have no idea what, if any, improvements have been made. Just seems the same...still crashes on half our print jobs the first run.
Overall, I like the Adobe products; Photoshop and Illustrator are indispensable. But let's be honest, there has been little truly advance development in these products for about 2 or 3 iterations, unless you want to count OS X & Mac Intel compatibility as advances. Adobe seems content to simply suck on the teet of its cash cows!
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1. lack of hiding the application (without a reboot)
2. randomly ceases to work, but still remains open
3. copying/pasting to Illustrator
These seem like Adobe bugs as they have been fixed in InDesign CS4. Although, I wouldn't say Apple is completely blame free.
So, for a $700 upgrade, you can have these bugs fixed.
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http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/thankyou.jsp?ftpID=3399&fileID=3213
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See http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=2448
For more info
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Twisted rated on 03 Sep 2011
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Leonledragon rated on 29 Jul 2011
Pichitp rated on 18 Apr 2011
Faustus rated on 06 Dec 2010