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TenFourFox comes in different tuned versions for specific PowerPC processor families:
On the G4 Mac open the Terminal app (in Applications -> Utilities) and type the command machine and press return. You can read more in the Wiki entry; WhichVersion.
TenFourFox is a
- TenFourFox G5
- TenFourFox G3
- TenFourFox G4 - build 7450
- TenFourFox G4 - build 7400 (also for 7410)
On the G4 Mac open the Terminal app (in Applications -> Utilities) and type the command machine and press return. You can read more in the Wiki entry; WhichVersion.
TenFourFox is a
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Version 10.0.4:
System requirements
System requirements
- TenFourFox (hereafter "10.4Fx") requires a G3 Power Macintosh, Mac OS X 10.4.11, 100MB of free disk space and 512MB of RAM. 1GB of RAM and a G4 or G5 processor is recommended. Video playback is likely to be poor on systems slower than 1.25GHz; a G5 is recommended. Mac OS X 10.5.8 is supported.
- Intel Macintoshes are not supported, but the G3 build is known to run under Rosetta in 10.4.11, 10.5.8 and 10.6.8. Because Apple no longer supports Rosetta and 10.4Fx is not a Universal binary, it will not run under Lion 10.7 or any future version of Mac OS X.
- Make sure you select the appropriate build for your Mac from the download page. The G3 version will run on any supported Macintosh, but it will not take advantage of the additional features of G4 or G5 processors. The G4 and G5 versions will not run correctly on a G3, and the G5 version will perform worse on non-G5 Macintoshes.
- If you are using a G4, you should try to choose the correct version for your processor generation (7400 or 7450 "G4e") as performance may be impaired if you run the wrong one. If you don't know which G4 processor you have, the instructions in WhichVersion will tell you how to find out.
- TenFourFox uses modified Firefox source code, rewritten to remain compatible with Mac OS X v10.4 and the Power Macintosh. It also contains specific optimizations and special features for PowerPC processors. For this reason, it is not exactly the same as Firefox. However, it is intended to be as compatible with it as possible, including most add-ons and most standard features. You can treat 10.4Fx as equivalent with Firefox ESR 10.0 in most circumstances, with specific exceptions noted below.
- Note that add-ons which require an Intel Macintosh will not work with TenFourFox, even if they are otherwise compatible with Firefox 10, and add-ons that require 10.5 Leopard may not be compatible with TenFourFox running on Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger, even if they are compatible with PowerPC.
- Starting with Firefox 10, Mozilla is now offering an extended support release version of Firefox ("Firefox ESR") intended for environments where users are unable to use rapid-release versions of Firefox due to policy or technical constraints.
- 10.4Fx 10.x is based on this extended support release and is intended for users who wish to remain with a stable browser core. The stable branch will continue to receive bugfixes and security updates, but will not receive new Firefox features (although it may receive certain 10.4Fx-specific features judged important for our legacy users).
- We recommend this version for most of our users. If you wish to help test our continuing porting efforts, you can try the unstable branch, which is based on the current release of Firefox. The unstable branch does have bugs and is recommended only for advanced users. For more information, see the TenFourFox Development blog.
- Plugins on PowerPC are of special concern because Mozilla is making updates to their plugin architecture which may require the plugins themselves to be updated, and there are certain difficult-to-correct bugs with them already on Tiger. Most importantly, QuickTime and Adobe Flash for PowerPC are no longer maintained and have known security risks that can crash, perform malicious operations or leak data, and Flash 10.1 is rapidly becoming unsupported by many applications.
- As of TenFourFox 6.0, for these and other reasons (for details, see PluginsNoLongerSupported), plugin support ships disabled. Plugins will not operate by default, and bug reports will no longer be accepted. Sites will now act as if no plugins were installed at all.
- For Internet video, we strongly recommend the use of Perian and any of the available video download add-ons for Firefox.
- For YouTube, we recommend MacTubes. If you have a high end G4 or G5, you can also use WebM for selected videos by visiting http://www.youtube.com/html5 and enabling HTML5 video. This will set a temporary cookie enabling browser-based video without Flash. You do not need a YouTube account for this feature, but you may need to periodically renew the cookie setting. Not all video is available in WebM.
- For a more in-depth explanation of this policy and other workarounds, see PluginsNoLongerSupported.
Version 10.0.4:
System requirements
System requirements
- TenFourFox (hereafter "10.4Fx") requires a G3 Power Macintosh, Mac OS X 10.4.11, 100MB of free disk space and 512MB of RAM. 1GB of RAM and a G4 or G5 processor is recommended. Video playback is likely to be poor on systems slower than 1.25GHz; a G5 is recommended. Mac OS X 10.5.8 is supported.
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PPC, Mac OS X 10.4.11 or later
PPC, Mac OS X 10.4.11 or later
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TenFourFox comes in different tuned versions for specific PowerPC processor families: If you feel unsure what type of PowerPC processor your Mac has, go to the Apple menu and choose "About this Mac" and check the processor field.
On the G4 Mac open the Terminal app (in Applications -> Utilities) and type the command
TenFourFox is a fast, efficient web browser always based on the current version of Firefox, but unlike the main distribution TenFourFox is compatible with OS X 10.4 and 10.5 running on PowerPC processors.
TenFourFox does support most add-ons
The add-ons it does not support are those that contain native Intel code, or, on Tiger Macs (OS X 10.4), add-ons that contain native code that requires Leopard. You can continue to use add-ons compatible with the same version of Firefox in TenFourFox in most cases.
TenFourFox no longer supports plugins or Flash
As of the previous TenFourFox 6.0, for the following reasons plugin support ships disabled. Sites will now act as if no plugins were installed at all. For details and an in-depth explanation of this policy and other workarounds, see Why aren't plugins supported in TenFourFox?. You can reenable plugins at your own risk. See the section "Reenable plugins" below
Plugins on PowerPC are of special concern because Mozilla is making updates to their plugin architecture which may require the plugins themselves to be updated, and there are certain difficult-to-correct bugs with them already on Tiger. Most importantly, Adobe Flash for PowerPC is no longer maintained and has known security risks that can crash or leak data, some sites requires versions not available on the PowerPC, and QuickTime for Leopard will lose its own support with the release of OS X Lion.
For Internet video, we strongly recommend the use of Perian and any of the available video download add-ons for Firefox.
For YouTube, we recommend MacTubes. If you have a high end G4 or G5, you can also use WebM for selected videos by visiting http://www.youtube.com/html5 and enabling HTML5 video. This will set a temporary cookie enabling browser-based video without Flash.
Reenable plugins
To turn on plugins you do this: 1) go to the address field and type about:config. 2) Press return and click on the "I'll be careful, I promise" button. 3) In the filter input type "tenfourfox". You now see TenFourFox related preferences and can set new values by double clicking each preference. To reenable plugins set "tenfourfox.plugins.enabled" to true and "tenfourfox.layout.hideplugins" to false. If you want the java plugin activated set "tenfourfox.layout.hide_java_plugin" to false. 4) Close the window
Plugin code is an integral part of the codebase, so there will always be plugin code in TenFourFox. There's just no guarantee that it will work and Floodgap does not support issues conerning plugins.
If you have more questions you can read Frequently asked questions about TenFourFox
On the G4 Mac open the Terminal app (in Applications -> Utilities) and type the command
machine and press return. You can read more in the Wiki entry; WhichVersion. TenFourFox is a fast, efficient web browser always based on the current version of Firefox, but unlike the main distribution TenFourFox is compatible with OS X 10.4 and 10.5 running on PowerPC processors.
TenFourFox does support most add-ons
The add-ons it does not support are those that contain native Intel code, or, on Tiger Macs (OS X 10.4), add-ons that contain native code that requires Leopard. You can continue to use add-ons compatible with the same version of Firefox in TenFourFox in most cases.
TenFourFox no longer supports plugins or Flash
As of the previous TenFourFox 6.0, for the following reasons plugin support ships disabled. Sites will now act as if no plugins were installed at all. For details and an in-depth explanation of this policy and other workarounds, see Why aren't plugins supported in TenFourFox?. You can reenable plugins at your own risk. See the section "Reenable plugins" below
Plugins on PowerPC are of special concern because Mozilla is making updates to their plugin architecture which may require the plugins themselves to be updated, and there are certain difficult-to-correct bugs with them already on Tiger. Most importantly, Adobe Flash for PowerPC is no longer maintained and has known security risks that can crash or leak data, some sites requires versions not available on the PowerPC, and QuickTime for Leopard will lose its own support with the release of OS X Lion.
For Internet video, we strongly recommend the use of Perian and any of the available video download add-ons for Firefox.
For YouTube, we recommend MacTubes. If you have a high end G4 or G5, you can also use WebM for selected videos by visiting http://www.youtube.com/html5 and enabling HTML5 video. This will set a temporary cookie enabling browser-based video without Flash.
Reenable plugins
To turn on plugins you do this: 1) go to the address field and type about:config. 2) Press return and click on the "I'll be careful, I promise" button. 3) In the filter input type "tenfourfox". You now see TenFourFox related preferences and can set new values by double clicking each preference. To reenable plugins set "tenfourfox.plugins.enabled" to true and "tenfourfox.layout.hideplugins" to false. If you want the java plugin activated set "tenfourfox.layout.hide_java_plugin" to false. 4) Close the window
Plugin code is an integral part of the codebase, so there will always be plugin code in TenFourFox. There's just no guarantee that it will work and Floodgap does not support issues conerning plugins.
If you have more questions you can read Frequently asked questions about TenFourFox
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"It is not my intention to specifically break plugins, but I want it clear that I won't support them further and people use them at their own risk. Furthermore, the browser must ship in a safe configuration out of the box rather than expecting people to install things like Flashblock (which I heartily recommend). That said, plugin code is an integral part of the codebase, so there will always be plugin code in TenFourFox. There's just no guarantee that it will work"
posted by "ClassicHasClass" July 14, 2011 in post related to TFF 6.0b1
http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2011/07/60b1-available.html
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Mikael B reviewed on 29 Feb 2012
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Aargl reviewed on 28 Feb 2012
Hey, people! Instead of saying "rubbish" because you probably have something corrupted in your Firefox profile or you don't know how to make Flash movie play, don't forget: THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET LAST VERSIONS OF FIREFOX ON PPC!
I second the great Mikael B to remind you the trick he gave in an old post (see Troubleshooting tab) to make Flash work again.
Actually, online Flash videos play a lot more fluently in TenFourFox than in any other browser on PPC and this browser is the most stable and feature rich available!
Safari always have glitches or stalls with Google and other sites.
I use Camino, Safari and TenFourFox, depending on what I do, each one having its good and bad sides.
Thanks a lot, Floodgap! :-)
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This little note to say that even if I was convinced my G5 was fast enough for my needs ("it runs ProTools quite fluently, so the rest should be the same"), everything is running fluently on Intel (especially videos on the web and VLC, which was the biggest issues I had — except for that, I think I would have stuck to PPC).
So, I feel a bit like a villain, now, but thanks again Floodgap! :-)
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(and it appears it's a very common problem on recent iMacs...)
So I'm back to the — until now very reliable — G5! ;-)
One thing is pretty certain: Macs are less and less reliable! :-(
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David_Evian reviewed on 24 Feb 2012
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Also, you didn't take the time to investigate why Floodgap can't continue at all to support plugins in future versions of Tenfourfox. Tenfourfox is open sourced, and based on Firefox source code, that the Firefox team produces.
You're welcome to code plugin support at the rate the firefox team changes the source code Tenfourfox is built upon, as is anyone. If you can.
At least Floodgap keeps releasing TenFourfox versions for PPC, when Safari, Firefox, Opera and many others don't anymore. Do you know of any other current browser that can play Flash video better on an old G4, than what still Tenfourfox offers if you turn plugins on?
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TenFOurFox is my reference browser developing HTML5. All HTML5 works, which can't be said about your argumentation.
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space0matic reviewed on 21 Feb 2012
My problem is when I try to open TFF, it opens, a window appears, (just as it would in FF) but it crashes almost immediately after launching.
Any ideas on how to stop that?
I've tried quitting all of my apps and other browsers, and it still does this.
Thanks
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You can easily see this in the apple menu -> "About this computer". If it doesn't say "PowerPC" you don't have one and TenFourFox is built ONLY for these as you can see in the info above.
Unless you do have a PowerPC machine, I suggest you ask macupdate to delete your rating. Why did you start with a rating before you knew why it crashed? Didn't you see the troubleshooting alternative?
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This could also involve a plug-in, connected to your profile, acting up.
Best way to solve this is to post the details in the troubleshooting section. You just select that when you post a review, instead of completing the review.
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Dual 2.0 G5, 8gb ram.
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See above spaceomatic.
Thanks!
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Javascript performance is more spirited than FF 3.6.26 or the 3.6.27ENG.
FF 3.6 series will not be updated after .27 as it stands now. (Conjecture?)
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Thanks for the people behind TenFourFox for providing a compatible browser that works well. I downloaded it yesterday to a 1.33 GHz PowerBook G4.
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I first thought it was because they were distinguishing Intel ones from PPC ones, but it's the same on Camino's page.
There is probably a good explanation I haven't considered, but it looks pretty weird, as if TFF wasn't worth mentionning...
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ENIGMACODE reviewed on 14 Jan 2012
Adobe Flash Players Not Working Properly:
I'm sure this topic has been covered before. I have 3 G5's #2 Dual Core 2.0's and #1 older SP 1.8. The Dual Core machines have two Browsers installed; TenFourFox ver 4, Safari 4.1.3 with Flash Player ver 10.0 r45. Most Videos play just fine including UTube.
However my older 1.8 SP machine, (with browsers Safari 4.1.3, and TenFourFox ver 9), trying various versions of Flash DO NOT function properly. Each time I've used the Adobe uninstaller, then tried several archived players, including the latest. NONE will yield the same satisfactory results as with the Dual Core machines.
Wonder if this situation could be related to the older 1.8 SP? Or whether the tpye of Video Card has anything to do with it?
Thanx
Mike
Trailer;
http://vimeo.com/7340608
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If your quest is about Flash not working at all in TFF, see the here above troubleshooting tab, and then the trick given by venerable Mikael B on 28 Sep 2011 to enable it. :-)
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It's the Flash content, not Flash itself necessarily. I can watch 720p full screen video with very few glitches on my Dual 2.0 G5 from other sources. That only give me about 15% idle CPU though, so it's possible you'll need to turn of other processes if you have a slower CPU.
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"browser.fullscreen.animateUp = 0 (prevents the stupid and sometimes very slow animation when switching to full screen)
[alternatively: browser.fullscreen.autohide=false (leaves the navigation bar visible always)]
browser.preferences.animateFadeIn = false (re-sizing is ok, but fade-in of content is non-standard on OS X anyway)
browser.tabs.animate = false (no more "Assertion Failed. Giving up waiting for the tab closing animation to finish")
browser.panorama.animate_zoom = false (instant switch from tab groups to normal window)
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http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2011/12/awoafy-are-we-old-and-fast-yet-or.html#comment-form
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One other thing: typing a z in the address field clears everything in it.
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Unfortunately it seems 1GB is the maximum for your machine and that means you'll have to use software with small memory requirements for the best experience.
Even with the older version you'll need to quit at least some other running applications that use up your valuable resources.
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Could you try 4.03 as well and tell us if that was faster?
And this problem "z is clearing the address field" could you please clarify how? You mean if you type "http://thezoo.com" the address field is cleared?
BTW, second hand OS X 10.5 is available for a fair price and I've found it faster and better even on a Powerbook G4 4oo mhz with 1qb of RAM.
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This happened after I downloaded a large number of bookmarks from my Xmarks backup. I also added a few add-ons so I'll inactivate them.
I don't think it's a memory problem as I have 4GB free, but the CPU usage is suspiciously high when i get the beach balls.
I'm going to try and change version too to see if the problem disappear.
I searched for known FF7 bugs involving bookmarks and CPU usage but found nothing conclusive.
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Regarding the "z" problem, a little more testing has shown that typing a letter/symbol that is not in the autocomplete suggestions the URL field clears and erases what has already been typed. Very frustrating.
I have tried Leopard on this iMac but found it more sluggish than Tiger, particularly with any animation (hey it's only 32MB vram). Besides Leopard doesn't run Classic and you can't change its theme.
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I suggest you try it from a fresh new user account (or from a new Firefox profile if you know how to do that).
For what you wrote about Leopard, I agree: on my iMac G5, it brought cosmetic changes, for the most, finder and mail are worse than in Tiger, I stick with it now that I spent so much time to upgrade, but except for Quicklook, it wasn't really worth the pain... (and I still have a Tiger partition to run some specific app!)
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I reenabled the Firebug 1.8.3 addon and I can happily report it doesn't make TFF slower except for when debugging javascripts. The Web Developer active at the same time did slow down my G5 considerably, so I'm dropping that. Firebug is much more useful anyway.
I also added the Gridfox plugin. Great stuff! I will reenable all my web development addons one at a time and see which ones affect the situation.
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Some things are better, some things are worse, some apps have not been updated for Leopard (or I don't want to pay for an update! ;-), it probably depends on what you do with your machine.
I was saying that in my case it wasn't worth the pain. And even more because I'm stuck to Tiger because of my version of Digidesign Pro Tools and some plugins that are not recognized in Leopard.
I have a friend who has Tiger on an iMac Intel and at first I wanted to install her a Snow Leopard, but, considering the pros and cons — and she being happy like that — I've just made the available updates and basta.
I have recently tried Leopard on a G4, but I'm still skeptical... The least I can say is that the improvement was far more important from Panzer to Tiger.
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I recognize your Plugin pain. Perhaps you can go the usual route and keep your PPC machine on Tiger and get a new Intel with Snow Leopard or Lion for the future. I don't see myself losing my G5 as it's the only machine that will run old looping app Infinity well. But that is a classic app so I must boot up in Tiger in orer to use it.
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About the system, I had some process going crazy and paralyzing the iMac (PubSubAgent, spindump, dashboard.advisory...).
On a practical way, I have a 2 screen config for watching TV on main screen while having other activities on the second screen: Leopard not always deals better than Tiger on heavy load.
(I think we'd better stop this digression for not "poluting" ;-)
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In the filter input type "tenfourfox".
You now see TenFourFox related preferences and can set new values by Double clicking each preference. To reenable set "tenfourfox.plugins.enabled" to true and "tenfourfox.layout.hideplugins" to false. If you want the java plugin activated set "tenfourfox.layout.hide_java_plugin" to false. Close the window or go to a web site to verify.
Verified with Flash 10.1. I assume it will work with most other plugins as well.
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Any ideas.
THX
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You could also try the now available TenFourFox 7.0.
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Windows always appear on the second monitor, no matter what I do.
I've tried disabling all add-ons, but no way: even disabling that monitor, it takes a while to default ok to my main monitor (after a number of Quit/Restart...), but when I reactivate the second monitor, it soon returns to his former bad habits! :-(
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I've checked TFF4 and it has quite the same behaviour.
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