It is just plain dumb--and annoying--that Apple refuses to spend perhaps an hour of a programmer's time to update its permission database so that these latest JAVA updates don't produce multiple permissions "errors" that are allegedly not really errors.
It is as if you bought a new car and the "Service Engine Soon" light were always on, but you were told by the manufacturer to ignore it, that there really was no problem.
I want to be able to run "Repair Disk Permissions" and have no "errors" show up if, in fact, there are no errors.
Frankly, I expect more of Apple. (And yes, I have told Apple both via email and on the phone what I think of there unwillingness to correct this minor problem.)
I think requirements should be corrected: the Apple support page lists 10.6.6 or later, and not 10.6.4. I'm running 10.6.5 and it doesn't show up in Software Update. Actually, this isn't the first time Apple makes some mess about minimum system requirements since the advent of 10.6.6 and App Store.
Maybe the permissions are incorrectly reported as incorrect? :)
I wouldn't bother too much about permissions (unless they really are causing an issue). The permission repair ”hysteria” seems to come from the early days of Mac OS X when there *where* a lot of issues with permissions after installations. Nowadays I don't care about them. Haven't ”repaired” any permissions for two years on the computer I'm typing this from and I don't suffer from any permission problems as far as I can tell.
There;s no need to worry about that. It's only saying the permissions are different than expected. This is installed by Apple, so the receipt is correct.
Thats no reason to give it a half star. Does the Java update not function correctly? It does, and that's what to rate it on.
I never repair permissions anymore unless I have a problem, which is hardly ever.
The reason I gave it such a low rating is because it is Apple's responsibility to make is so that their users don't have to wonder (or spend a ridiculous amount of time checking to see if all of them are 'safe' irreparable permissions).
If you bought a car, and though it got you back and forth to work, it made odd noises or gave you some other indication that something was wrong... i.e. caused you to wonder whether something was wrong... this I'm sure would be unacceptable.
IF Apple had resolved this after a reasonable amount of time... no problem. But this has been going on for years.
Again... how would you like that if it was happening to your car and every time you took it in for a tuneup (i.e. upgrade/update) it often resulted in additional noises (or whatever) that you thought would be eventually resolved.
I've been using Apple since the mid-90s and overall love it. So... as with cars... if you own a Mercedes or Ferrari you expect more. I also expect more of Apple.
If anyone has installed this update, does it solve the problem of many (10s) of error messages dealing with irreparable permissions after installation?
If so, that would be welcome, otherwise its more of the same screen after screen of irreparable permissions for java files.
That's not a problem. There's no reason to agonize over it. It's only saying the permissions are different than expected. This is an Apple update so they have it set correctly. They even tell you to ignore that stuff. There's pretty much no reason to have to repair permissions anymore.
Why don't you rate this update based on Java performance and not on repairing permissions, which has nothing to do with this. ;)
Daycare is probably referring to this alert on Filemakers site:
[quote]
Oracle has released Java 6 Update 26 for Windows which corrects the issue of the Admin Console not launching; for FileMaker Server/Server Advanced 10v2.
This issue still is unsolved for FileMaker Server/Server Advanced 9 (both Mac and Windows) and FileMaker Server/Server Advanced 10 for Mac; As soon as we are aware of any further information or updates from Oracle, this answer will be updated.
[end quote]
After 6 installs (yes, 6!) of Java after the update to 10.6.6 and running both Onyx and DiskWarrior 4.2, I decided I did not need the aggravation of all these error messages. Moreover, it also interfered with SuperDuper backups.
Now running without this Java update and all is OK.
Am also concerned that something so junky is put out without, apparently, being well tested.
I had the same issue when updating with my laptop and almost threw it out the window! I did figure out the fix which was to manually enter in my IP Address which for some reason was just a bunch of numbers and letters. Either way I manually set it back to what it should be then set my DHCP settings back to Auto and all seems to be back to normal. Needless to say it was about an hour of troubleshooting which makes you think twice about downloading these updates...
I made a similar mistake in the past--updating a critical machine while in the middle of an important project. Once. I'll never do it again. I learned my lesson. BIG TIME.
I'm sure Apple does its best to to test their updates in order to avoid problems like this, but there could be something different about your system, or, a perfect storm of differences that resulted in the issues you're experiencing. Which is why I never apply an update until the world has had at least a day to troubleshoot for me.
Also, if you want to mirror your drive, you should mirror your drive--Time Machine wasn't meant for that. Carbon Copy Cloner does a wonderful job.
I would only say I would NEVER apply ANY update to a business critical development server on day one, hour one. All that gives you is the privilege of being the first to post "oops, shouldn't have done that!". At the very least to a complete mirror backup first. How much is a 1-2TB HD and how much is you time worth? If you should be thanking anyone it's yourself!
No one said I didn't have it backup it because I do. I ordered the machine with two identical hard drives to mirror the main drive with Time Machine. The problem is that a Java Update puts new files at the system level and at unknown locations. And Time Machine won't let you simply restore you "System" folder. The only way back is to do a full system restore via booting from the Install CD...and that take hours (currently 4 hours and counting). So, backup or not, Apple has wasted at least a half a day of my time.
time machine is only good for backing up your work files. i use silver keeper to make a bootable clone of my main drive. if the main drive fails or is compromised , i just boot into the clone and update personal files from time machine.
ac19 reviewed on 10 Nov 2011
I had to go back to update 5 version. Really sad!
Hamf reviewed on 09 Nov 2011
It even says 10.6.4 on their own site
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Ikoniker reviewed on 30 Jun 2011
It is as if you bought a new car and the "Service Engine Soon" light were always on, but you were told by the manufacturer to ignore it, that there really was no problem.
I want to be able to run "Repair Disk Permissions" and have no "errors" show up if, in fact, there are no errors.
Frankly, I expect more of Apple. (And yes, I have told Apple both via email and on the phone what I think of there unwillingness to correct this minor problem.)
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Ronl reviewed on 28 Jun 2011
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I wouldn't bother too much about permissions (unless they really are causing an issue). The permission repair ”hysteria” seems to come from the early days of Mac OS X when there *where* a lot of issues with permissions after installations. Nowadays I don't care about them. Haven't ”repaired” any permissions for two years on the computer I'm typing this from and I don't suffer from any permission problems as far as I can tell.
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Wish the posts could be edited. I always make some mistake that I don't see until I've submitted the post.
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Thats no reason to give it a half star. Does the Java update not function correctly? It does, and that's what to rate it on.
I never repair permissions anymore unless I have a problem, which is hardly ever.
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If you bought a car, and though it got you back and forth to work, it made odd noises or gave you some other indication that something was wrong... i.e. caused you to wonder whether something was wrong... this I'm sure would be unacceptable.
IF Apple had resolved this after a reasonable amount of time... no problem. But this has been going on for years.
Again... how would you like that if it was happening to your car and every time you took it in for a tuneup (i.e. upgrade/update) it often resulted in additional noises (or whatever) that you thought would be eventually resolved.
I've been using Apple since the mid-90s and overall love it. So... as with cars... if you own a Mercedes or Ferrari you expect more. I also expect more of Apple.
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Eric-Woehler reviewed on 28 Jun 2011
If so, that would be welcome, otherwise its more of the same screen after screen of irreparable permissions for java files.
Who wants to be the guinea pig?
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Don't see what the problem really is, though.
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Why don't you rate this update based on Java performance and not on repairing permissions, which has nothing to do with this. ;)
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-> http://help.filemaker.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/7937
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[quote]
Oracle has released Java 6 Update 26 for Windows which corrects the issue of the Admin Console not launching; for FileMaker Server/Server Advanced 10v2.
This issue still is unsolved for FileMaker Server/Server Advanced 9 (both Mac and Windows) and FileMaker Server/Server Advanced 10 for Mac; As soon as we are aware of any further information or updates from Oracle, this answer will be updated.
[end quote]
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Mr.Blunt reviewed on 08 Mar 2011
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Don
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Tigerandyx9 reviewed on 09 Feb 2011
After 6 installs (yes, 6!) of Java after the update to 10.6.6 and running both Onyx and DiskWarrior 4.2, I decided I did not need the aggravation of all these error messages. Moreover, it also interfered with SuperDuper backups.
Now running without this Java update and all is OK.
Am also concerned that something so junky is put out without, apparently, being well tested.
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I'm sure Apple does its best to to test their updates in order to avoid problems like this, but there could be something different about your system, or, a perfect storm of differences that resulted in the issues you're experiencing. Which is why I never apply an update until the world has had at least a day to troubleshoot for me.
Also, if you want to mirror your drive, you should mirror your drive--Time Machine wasn't meant for that. Carbon Copy Cloner does a wonderful job.
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Update went fine for me so far.
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Davidravenmoon rated on 29 Jun 2011
Secretdiamond rated on 12 Mar 2011
plabs rated on 09 Mar 2011
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Mr.Blunt rated on 08 Mar 2011
Christian Bauer rated on 08 Mar 2011
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Eric-Woehler rated on 07 Mar 2011