Here is a problem that is occurring more and more:
Developers are creating software that are potentially very useful and dump them on the web without any instructions whatsoever. Clonetool Hatcher is a case in point. No instructions, no hover descriptions of buttons, not even a crystal ball. Where does one go after launching the application? Does the "Clone HD" pertain to the original system that should be cloned, or the clone produced from the original system?
I will refrain from rating this software because I suspect it works well, but, I hope to see a little more effort from the developer in making this product more useful to people like myself who are not so well-versed in geek lingo like Prebinding, Hatch, etc.
question: is it correct that hatchery changes the creation date of every file while making the clone? after cloning all my files had the same creation date as the modification date. with finder copies, my creation dates stay correct. what should i do? thanks
Well, it is not possible to copy a file to another location, and have creation date as the same date on the original file. Clonetool uses unix commands to clone, so it is not really Clonetool itsself, but the commands.
This is an exceptional piece of software. After many hours of frustration and countless failed attempts to create a bootable backup of my hackintosh disk, I stumbled across a reference to Clonetool Hatchery somewhere online and made note of it. Odd name. Didn't sound promising. Backing up my Macbook and iMac is easy, with Superduper. But my homemade hackintosh is another animal. Superduper wasn't super enough to tame it.
Booting my backups just produced blank screens and blinking cursors before Clonetool. Well, there was an HFS+ partition error that I considered progress. All the data was there, I could see it from my other Macs, but the backups just wouldn't boot. Others posted reports of the same frustrations and brought forth various and sundry fixes--this or that partition scheme was the answer, or delving into Darwin to tinker with the MBR was the trick, etc., etc. Nothing worked.
Then I found that note about Clonetool Hatchery and downloaded it, along with another program required for hackintosh backups, OSx86_pframe. I installed them, and clicked my mouse on one button to make a backup. One button. And the backup booted.
It was that simple. It just worked. How Mac-like. And it's free. How unMac-like.
Why did you post a negative comment and tell users to pass this one up when you signed up for a nicemac.com account yourself? Looks like that you any many others interested in Hatchery.
Since I am the developer of this software, I can choose to distribute it how I like. No we are not kids or amateurs as your comment suggests. We are just a little creative at your marketing.
We do not handcuff you do Nicemac. Anyone can just sign up get the password. They are not forced to post or participate. They don't even have to wait for validation and pay a dime.
Account to nicemac required to unlock the disk image? What a joke! Total crap! Sounds like kids playing around and wanting people to visit their site. Pass this one up. Plenty of other apps that don't handcuff you to try it out. Amateurs.
Ran into a snag with apparently a Microsoft file (figures) that wouldn't allow for a proper clone. Therefore, unable to create a bootable clone. Posted on the developer's message board for assistance, and was informed of the following:
"There are plently of other Cloning softwares for PowerPC. I suggest you try one of those and see if it does the same thing.
A would suggest using CCC which should be able to do a blog level copy of your system instead a file level copy that Hatchery uses.
We have not updated this software in almost 2 years. This is not our focus right now."
This was after the original reply in my inbox:
"We are no longer apart of the Hackintosh project.
Get a Mac."
I have a Mac. I've had *only* Macs since 1984. I didn't even know what a Hackintosh was until I read about this software. I was trying to follow good message boarding etiquette by not starting a new thread on the unbootable subject. i hoped to make a bootable clone of this Mac on an external hard drive as my current internal hard drive has only 80 GBs.
I will check MacUpdate for CCC.
Thanks for your time.
So I'll be removing Clonetool Hatchery from my computer as I don't like to keep unsupported applications on my limited hard drive.
Good luck to those who intend to keep using this product.
I have 1 hard drive that is SATA 250 gig on channel 1. I have a IDE drive as well but I unhooked it to just be 100% sure it wasn't conflicting with the program.
a) problem 1 - i can't select ANYTHING in the dropdowns.. i basically have to just go with what it accepts..
if i have 5 partitions or 5 drives or whatever, the dropdowns are greyed out!!! :( bummer! so that makes the app useless unless your drives are magically on the source and clone side.. or if you have 2 drives..
so why even have a dropdown if it doesn't work, otherwise are you aware it is greyed out? is that a bug?
kalyway 10.5.2 - nforcekernel
FP-IN9 fatality motherboard
intelcore2 duo
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problem B) I magically got DriveA to showup in my source and DriveB to showup in my clone - so it starts up with them, even though they are greyed out and I can't change them... luckily I want it like A and B so it works - sorta.
when I click create disk image.. the program freezes about 10% into the process.... I have 1 SATA 120 gig drive partitioned into 2 equal parts of 60 gigs each.
part 1 tries to copy to part2 and I get a freeze after 10% etc...
when I cold reboot - the only way to get out of the freeze since the mouse and keyboard are 100%lockedup... I notice that only 20 or 30 megs are copied over and it basically hangs / crashes somewhere in the applications...
why? is there a way I can open console or terminal or something that can help you?? unfortunetally i can't copy and paste or etc since the machine hard freezes... can i start a log in terminal with tail? etc
Have you tried to clone 1 SATA split in half from part A to part B?
my sata is HFS+ Journaled both partitions. I even tried to erase partition B as well as repair permissions, etc, etc.. do I have to boot off a CD or some random drive to do this??? please help me!
It's even written on the MacUpdate page! The drives are probably grayed out because they are not the right type. like GUID, etc.
Again, Clonetool is not compatible with leopard yet!
Sincerely,
gt :)
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foxbox reviewed on 26 Jan 2008
Many,many thanks nicemac!
And One More Thing, Keep up the great work.
gt :-)
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Developers are creating software that are potentially very useful and dump them on the web without any instructions whatsoever. Clonetool Hatcher is a case in point. No instructions, no hover descriptions of buttons, not even a crystal ball. Where does one go after launching the application? Does the "Clone HD" pertain to the original system that should be cloned, or the clone produced from the original system?
I will refrain from rating this software because I suspect it works well, but, I hope to see a little more effort from the developer in making this product more useful to people like myself who are not so well-versed in geek lingo like Prebinding, Hatch, etc.
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We have never had a complaint about this before, but now i see the flaws
if you have other questions, feel free to message me
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I hope this helped you
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blix3 reviewed on 18 Dec 2007
Booting my backups just produced blank screens and blinking cursors before Clonetool. Well, there was an HFS+ partition error that I considered progress. All the data was there, I could see it from my other Macs, but the backups just wouldn't boot. Others posted reports of the same frustrations and brought forth various and sundry fixes--this or that partition scheme was the answer, or delving into Darwin to tinker with the MBR was the trick, etc., etc. Nothing worked.
Then I found that note about Clonetool Hatchery and downloaded it, along with another program required for hackintosh backups, OSx86_pframe. I installed them, and clicked my mouse on one button to make a backup. One button. And the backup booted.
It was that simple. It just worked. How Mac-like. And it's free. How unMac-like.
If you need to clone a Leopard disk from a Hackintosh system, you can clone it from Tiger. There is presently the only workaround at this time.
I handed to torch off the AllOutMacsToday and he will be continuing the progress on Hatchery.
Sincerely,
Goodtime
Former Hatchery Developer
Since I am the developer of this software, I can choose to distribute it how I like. No we are not kids or amateurs as your comment suggests. We are just a little creative at your marketing.
We do not handcuff you do Nicemac. Anyone can just sign up get the password. They are not forced to post or participate. They don't even have to wait for validation and pay a dime.
The software portion of nicemac is moving to a new company called "soft.nicemac.com."
This new agreement will allow anyone to use Clonetool Hatchery for free and equally available to members or non-members.
Sincerely,
Goodtime
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"There are plently of other Cloning softwares for PowerPC. I suggest you try one of those and see if it does the same thing.
A would suggest using CCC which should be able to do a blog level copy of your system instead a file level copy that Hatchery uses.
We have not updated this software in almost 2 years. This is not our focus right now."
This was after the original reply in my inbox:
"We are no longer apart of the Hackintosh project.
Get a Mac."
I have a Mac. I've had *only* Macs since 1984. I didn't even know what a Hackintosh was until I read about this software. I was trying to follow good message boarding etiquette by not starting a new thread on the unbootable subject. i hoped to make a bootable clone of this Mac on an external hard drive as my current internal hard drive has only 80 GBs.
I will check MacUpdate for CCC.
Thanks for your time.
So I'll be removing Clonetool Hatchery from my computer as I don't like to keep unsupported applications on my limited hard drive.
Good luck to those who intend to keep using this product.
I have 1 hard drive that is SATA 250 gig on channel 1. I have a IDE drive as well but I unhooked it to just be 100% sure it wasn't conflicting with the program.
a) problem 1 - i can't select ANYTHING in the dropdowns.. i basically have to just go with what it accepts..
if i have 5 partitions or 5 drives or whatever, the dropdowns are greyed out!!! :( bummer! so that makes the app useless unless your drives are magically on the source and clone side.. or if you have 2 drives..
so why even have a dropdown if it doesn't work, otherwise are you aware it is greyed out? is that a bug?
kalyway 10.5.2 - nforcekernel
FP-IN9 fatality motherboard
intelcore2 duo
ok -
problem B) I magically got DriveA to showup in my source and DriveB to showup in my clone - so it starts up with them, even though they are greyed out and I can't change them... luckily I want it like A and B so it works - sorta.
when I click create disk image.. the program freezes about 10% into the process.... I have 1 SATA 120 gig drive partitioned into 2 equal parts of 60 gigs each.
part 1 tries to copy to part2 and I get a freeze after 10% etc...
when I cold reboot - the only way to get out of the freeze since the mouse and keyboard are 100%lockedup... I notice that only 20 or 30 megs are copied over and it basically hangs / crashes somewhere in the applications...
why? is there a way I can open console or terminal or something that can help you?? unfortunetally i can't copy and paste or etc since the machine hard freezes... can i start a log in terminal with tail? etc
Have you tried to clone 1 SATA split in half from part A to part B?
my sata is HFS+ Journaled both partitions. I even tried to erase partition B as well as repair permissions, etc, etc.. do I have to boot off a CD or some random drive to do this??? please help me!