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YummySoup!
YummySoup! 2.4
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(15) 4.1

Recipe organizer complete with web imports and custom prints.   Shareware ($19.99)
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    Ken Humbard
YummySoup! has been rewritten from the ground up to make your favorite recipe management app even more powerful than ever! Now including Recipecasts, premium themes for viewing/printing/emailing including 4x6 index and photo paper, and an all-new weekly planner. Your recipes will thank you! Available in English, French, and Spanish.
What's New
Version 2.4:

New:

  • Menu command to reveal your Library file in the Finder for easier iTunes sync with the iOS app. Located at: YummySoup! - Show Library File in Finder
Fixes:
  • Where entering ingredients created duplicates
  • Consolidating ingredients may not have scale correctly
  • Corrections to auto web imports

Requirements
PPC / Intel, Mac OS X 10.5 or later.


Related Links
Download iOS version ($3.99; compatible with iPhone, iPod touch, and iPad. Requires iOS 4.2 or later).







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YummySoup! User Discussion (Write a Review)
ver. 2.x:
(15)
Your rating: Now say why...
Overall:
(29)

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burypromote

+18

Qb reviewed on 01 Sep 2011
Almost 1 year ago I gave YS! a 5 star rating. While I still think this is the best recipe manager out there I've run into several problems the developer has been unable to fix. The current version 2.3.5 has several bugs that I've discussed with HungrySeacow in over 160 emails that I have kept.

I love YS' interface with the visual browser to show nice sized photos of numerous recipes in the top and overall I like the web importer.

However:
I have it crash on a far to frequent basis
While using the Web Import it may crash as frequently as 5 times in 10 minutes while I attempt to bring in 10 new recipes.

At times I import a new recipe, notice something to change but when I click EDIT it crashes - thus forcing me to live with the errors that are contained in the recipe (or delete it and hope the next import is stable).

Some recipes I've had in my library for months will suddenly no longer be editable. I've shared a list of 20 such titles and my library with the developer - he can reproduce but not fix the problem.
Even exporting and reimporting these recipes do not fix them. This implies to me there are software coding issues that do not inspect the imported data closely.

On occasion the application crashes on launch.

Since version 2.2 there have been problems with auto-fill fields not auto-filling.

The Web Importer cannot handle multi-word measurements such as "rounded teaspoon", instead placing these in the Ingredient field.

The app often crashes when I scroll the visual browser.

Searching for a recipe by name does not ignore accented characters: "ragu" will not match "ragĂș". Minor but something programming would fix.

Recently the developer has cut me off his Facebook site: I had previously started a discussion to collect the bug reports from other users and we had 30 or 40 submissions. I could see in their reports that I was not the only one with problems and had hoped this would spur the developer into working harder on fixing the issues. Instead I get blocked and all my discussions and submissions censored and removed.

I have over 6250 recipes in YS so I depend on it to be stable. For a while the developer quit responding to my bug reports but last week he sent me the following and I quote directly for his email:
"I suggest you delete your library and start with a new one and keep it under 500 recipes."

That is not a solution - no where does he advertise this recipe manager as supporting only 500 recipes before it breaks. I would have looked elsewhere if that had been part of the product description.

Bottom line - nice looking and functional application that has serious stability and database/library issues.
[Version 2.3.5]

2 Replies

burypromote
+1
Hungryseacow Software replied on 04 Sep 2011
Qb has a sorted history with me. He has on many occasions resorted to rude, abusive and inappropriate behaviors when I haven't fixed things that he deemed important issues or even his feature suggestions. Often he believes he has the solution to a problem but is completely off base and doesn't understand the root cause. He once had an issue with a right-click contextual menu that wouldn't appear which turned out to have been a problem with a system extension that he had installed.

I have many users with more then double the amount of recipes in their library then Qb without issues. If I am unable to replicate a problem that he is experiencing there is little help I can provide. Based on my history with Qb there is a high likeliness that most of his issues are user error in nature.

Qb mentioned that the app would crash when using the importing feature. Occasionally a website's HTML layout changes which can break an importer and at times though very rare cause it to be crash prone for that website. A simple point release is required to adjust the importer for these changes.

When I don't address his issues right away he ignores the general rules of my Facebook page. He wants to bring issues that he has to the public's attention but rather placing them in the discussions group where it won't get lost in the shuffle of the main page he posts it under completely unrelated comments on the main page. I have decided to ban him from the page. Banning him results in automatic removal of all his posts.

Since Qb refuses to work with me in an appropriate manor my suggestion to him is to keep a smaller library or move to another application. There is only so much help I can provide to someone so unwilling. And yes, there are over 600 emails exchanged.
burypromote

+18
Qb replied on 06 Sep 2011
I believe Ken is showing lack of professionalism with his distortion of our interactions and the direct attack on my professionalism. My review never attached him as he is doing to me.

I've been an Apple developer for 25 years and have never seen such misrepresentations as his reply.

Facebook: As you see in my above review HE took DOWN the discussion I stated on the YummySoup Facebook page. Now he accuses me of NOT keeping them in a discussion that he deleted before I ever got banned weeks later?

Right-click: was not just my MacBook Pro computer (it worked on my desktops.) I temporarily installed YS on a friends MacBook Pro and the right click still failed and that. I emailed him that info and he soon replied he added some "double check" in the image browser that fixed it. Now he claims it was an extension I had installed - he never claimed that in the email he told me of the fix in.

I have always gone out of my way to clearly document problems including relevant screen captures and submit bugs in a polite fashion. My email records would support that. Never have I been rude, abusive or inappropriate as Ken's reply to me is here.

I could go further but I after Ken's out of c control reply, now can I reread Ken's rant at Albyrw in April-2011 in a new light.
burypromote
+1

+39

Mousee reviewed on 19 Apr 2011
The latest version (2.3.x) makes this software a favorite for recipe management. The previous version was lacking a every important feature: grocery list. This is now included and I do not need to look elsewhere for a recipe software. The Web importing function is very well implemented and saves a lot of copy/paste operations. Adding more pictures to each recipe (also in v2.3.x) will prove very useful for recipes with a set of pictures describing that recipe.
The interface is very powerful and I love being able to add and organize folders as I choose.
In the past I had several crashes but stability has improved a lot in the last few versions.
Overall, a great product.
[Version 2.3.1]


burypromote
+8

+7

Albyrw reviewed on 15 Feb 2011
Beware of buying YummySoup! unless you only need the functionality it currently has working in the version you buy today. The developer has a history of making grand promises about future feature releases and delivering years down the track, or in a paid upgrade. If you're waiting for the accompanying iPhone app, then believe it when you see it before parting with your money because YummySoup! has always been two-thirds real and one-third vapourware. Don't buy everything you want really exists (and a few other people have written reviews to say they're okay and have all the promised functionality).

I've been using YS for two-and-a-half years, since I think version 1.3 or 1.4. There have been constant problems with stability, features in the release version that didn't work properly or at all (export, email), bugs not fixed, and by 1.9 - a version still plagued with stability problems and with many reported bugs unfixed, such as the title selection in the web importer causing selected text to disappear not import, or the tabbing through ingredients in a shopping list causing rows to revert to blank, keyword searches only search on titles... The dev had obviously long moved on to 2.0, to start the whole cycle again with a new group of licensees. Thank Ken, but your idea of a .9 release is not the same as mine - a place to leave a half-finished app while you work on the next paid upgrade.

Although the dev was always responsive to emails (I've dealt with worse), actual development moved at a snail's pace - years - and I gave up asking about fixes, even to some of the advertised features that were the reason I bought YS in the first place. I expect that he will take this review rather personally, and so he should - the defensive posture and the replies saying that YS is a one man band really illuminate the problem - the dev's ambitions and publicly-stated promises for the product are wildly out of sync with his capacity to deliver. Screenshots of YS 2.0 look nice, but actual functionality has barely improved - only the weekly planner and export functionality is new; other changes are either cosmetic or promised in future updates. YS 1.x was supposed to have export functionality, but Ken decided to save that for 2.0.

The reason this app does well is because its core functionality and idea are good -a streamlined recipe manager and import manager that copes well with importing from most websites. That really is its killer feature. But for groceries, planning, exporting, organising and sharing its features are basic at best, and the app really lacks the polish and professionalism you get from larger developers. If the price matched the reality and the app's ambitions were more modest, this could be a more reasonable purchase. But if you really want to use the YS to its limits, you may be disappointed. I suggest you check out all the recipe managers out there - there's plenty of good ones - and thoroughly test YS in your real-use situation. Don't buy because it looks nice, or because you're looking forward to iPhone integration. MacGourmet has all those features today, maybe give that a look. I still use YS 1.9 because it does everything I need, barely, but it's often exasperating. No more money will be spent on it until the fairy dust turns into something I can touch.
[Version 2.2.2]

1 Reply

burypromote
+1
Hungryseacow Software (developer) replied on 17 Apr 2011
Albyrw was very upset that I dropped support for Microsoft Entourage as an email option in version 1. Features are subject to change and without owning a copy of Entourage maintaining support for it was cumbersome. This is why in version two users have the option of using Plain Text for any default email application. Some of his assertions are false such as his comments on exports, searching using the search field, groceries, planning, organizing and sharing. The Mac App Store reviews speak for themselves. You can't please everyone and there will always be someone who lashes out when they don't get their way.
burypromote
+1

+1

Ryanholcomb reviewed on 02 Jan 2011
Easy to use, great import from the featured websites, easy import from other websites. Simple uncluttered interface and usage. Hangs up sometimes but the program is under active development so I expect it will only get better. Best of all, my wife uses it easily without the need for an IT consult!
[Version 2.1.6]


burypromote
+5

+18

Qb reviewed on 14 Oct 2010
Back in the summer of 2009 I downloaded 9 Mac recipe managers and spent 2 weeks making extensive test comparisons. Hands down YummySoup (then version 1.9) was my favorite. First I love the visual browser that shows several recipe images in a large format, not small thumbnails. Secondly the developer has made some of my favorite cooking sites so easy to import that they take 10 seconds to grab. Other cooking sites are imported in a more interactive fashion - something the current version 2.1.3 has made easier than 1.9

While there are some features held back from the version 2 release there is nothing missing for recipe management. I don't use weekly planners nor shopping lists so waiting for these to return is not of concern to me.

Lastly I have found the developer extremely responsive and with a good sense of humor. They have replied to dozens of my emails - heck, might even be 100 by now. As a developer myself I understand how in fixing one thing something else can and often will break and they have had a few such setbacks.

I truly believe that YummySoup! will continue to mature and be my recommendation to anyone who wants a recipe manager with a beautiful interface and simple operation.
[Version 2.1.3]

1 Reply

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Hungryseacow Software (developer) replied on 14 Oct 2010
The Weekly Planner is already enabled, grocery lists will be very shortly.:)
burypromote
+2

+2

Weez74 reviewed on 10 Oct 2010
Yummy Soup is by far the best recipe software you can buy.

Importing is so easy. The smart groups are great.

The developer provides regular upgrades it to make it even better & provides outstanding customer service.

It is far less expensive than other recipe software yet does so much. The view options are wonderful as are the printing options. The ability to use recipecasts as well as add notes are also great.

I cant say enough good things about this software & its developer, Ken.

I have used several other recipe programs over the years but none as as user friendly & full featured as Yummy Soup.

Try it - you can't go wrong

Louise M.
[Version 2.1.3]


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Michelle Zybura reviewed on 09 Oct 2010
If you are into cooking, Yummy Soup is a must have. It will keep your recipes fabulously organized. Best money I have ever spent. Tech support is awesome as well.
[Version 2.1.1]


burypromote
+1

+1
Sparkn commented on 29 Sep 2010
Author listens to his customers and actively seeks the best way to meet customer customer wants and needs.

Recipecasts are a great way to share your favorites with the community. Works flawlessly with a MobileMe account.

Importing couldn't be simpler. The built-in browser will make you forget you're not using Safari!!! Comes complete with favorites bar to add new sites to.
[Version 2.1]

1 Reply

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-1

-1
Fritz From London replied on 10 Oct 2010
Author listens to customers only if they brown nose him, otherwise he tells to "move on and find another software"
burypromote
+2

+2

Firefoxnx reviewed on 27 Sep 2010
(1) Nice
Web Importer just works
Themes keep the interface fresh

(2) Needs Improvement
Weekly Planner is bare bones
Social features are not enabled?

(3) iPhone/iPad application - MIA?
[Version 2.1]

1 Reply

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+3
Hungryseacow Software (developer) replied on 27 Sep 2010
1. Thanks!
2. Weekly planner manual write-ins will be added - Great suggestion from users!
3. iPhone and iPad versions are in the works.
burypromote
+4

+7

Fdqn4fh reviewed on 15 Jul 2010
I used Yummysoup 1.x for about 2 years. Over that time, I've been waiting for a true upgrade for ages. Most important feature I wanted was iPhone integration. 1.x would export to PDF and then I'd use AirSharing to view, which is cool.

Now 2.x is out, with pretty much the same iPhone support. OK fine. But the upgrade took ages to arrive, and the only feature that I thought was worth the wait was the calendar. Otherwise, very cosmeticky. I just can't see myself paying $10 to reward this behaviour. I'll think about upgrading or switching recipe organisers when YS 1.x breaks.
[Version 2.0.3]

1 Reply

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-2
Hungryseacow Software (developer) replied on 15 Jul 2010
Now that version two has been released our focus will soon be almost entirely on iOS.
burypromote

+18
Qb had trouble on 11 Oct 2011
2.4 has been more stable than 2.3.x and after many weeks of troubleshooting repeated crashing when editing/saving recipes I have a breakthrough. From my 35 years of programming I was say there is a recursion bug in YS. I can open a new database with only default recipes and in 2 changes in the preferences / Smart Measurements get the app to crash repeatedly. Finding this out lead to a solution to many of the crashes I've had.

2.4 still has problems with modified images not displaying, searches not yielding correct matches, images added to the Notes section coming out huge and the developer's temper.
[Version 2.4]




jean_st rated on 29 Jun 2011

[Version 2.3.4]



+8

Mikiyoung rated on 19 May 2011

[Version 2.3.3]



-4

mfhead rated on 05 May 2011

[Version 2.3.2]




jean_st rated on 28 Apr 2011

[Version 2.3.1]



+1

Ryanholcomb rated on 02 Jan 2011

[Version 2.1.6]




Ozzymo rated on 01 Dec 2010

[Version 2.1.6]


Downloads:24,019
Version Downloads:961
Type:Home & Personal : Cooking
License:Shareware
Date:04 Sep 2011
Platform:PPC / Intel
Price: $19.99
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