Developer: We love your browser! Don't stop developing it! Of course, if you do, please make the source of version 1.1.5a available so people can bring this great browser to life again.
Yes, but that source is of version 1.1.2a. If your project is dead, please let one/some/all of use have the current source! I'm sure someone would be happy to pick up where you left off.
By the way, this browser is very competitive among small browsers. Why did you stop developing it?
What I mean by a "Dev box" is I no longer have any mac's that I can use to develop on. (unless I can do it from a amd64 linux box somehow)
Also, I'm pretty sure that's the latest source code (with lots of garbage in it because I just tarred the whole thing), because otherwise I don't have it. The box that I had it on died along time ago.
Oh. That seriously is a disappointment. I really did like your browser. Is there any way you could resume where you left off? There's more to this browser than 5 others I've used have combined! They're all based on Apple's sample code... It seems that yours is too, but that can easily be ignored considering how much you've done beyond it.
There's a small chance I could continue development. I may still have one of my old ancient powerbooks laying around, maybe I can put OS X on it and XCode...
I haven't programmed in ObjectiveC/Cocoa in ages thou.. so only time will tell. (I only wish I had used a version control back then)
I am suprised to know it even runs anymore, and that someone uses it. I pretty much thought no one cared about it anymore.
By now, the interface is old and ugly, but I'm looking beyond it, and it works very well.
The source code is not of 1.1.5a, it is of version 1.1.2a. I just checked. Unfortunately, if you haven't coded in awhile and you don't have the source code, it may be hard to resume.
I may be the only one, but I am serious. This program has/had potential.
Please people grow up... stop pointlessly bashing peoples software... I would like to see half of you make anything like this... and the too many browsers thing... last I counted there are only like five good browsers for mac and some of those could use a lot of improvement the developer of this could be on to something so just lay off
Nice "school project" but there is absolutely NO guarantee of security with this - which makes it very dangerous to use except for simply reading pages - and even then it could be broadcasting information you don't want sent.
This would probably push all of Securnia's buttons at once.
When making comments on an ALPHA program, don't say ignorant things like "lacks features" and "useless". The reason that the developer has taken the effort to label it as alpha is because he knows that it isn't close to done yet and does not yet have a full feature set. LOUDSCREAMER, you sir, are an idiot.
The browser is fine, you never know, it come become the next firefox in a year or two, so please people, don't be so dumb.
I'm a developer myself, so I respect the effort put into making products, and I'm glad you do, too. But when I'm looking at products on MacUpdate, I want to know what they do, and if they're worth using. So I find honest criticism, however harsh, more helpful than a "we're all winners" 5-star rating.
mu5ti: Perhaps you should have a read of the Wikipedia entry on Linux:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux#History
It has this interesting snippet: "Meanwhile, in 1991, another kernel was begun as a hobby by Finnish university student Linus Torvalds while attending the University of Helsinki."
Guess that school project was a waste of time, hey?
Sam: Moot argument. This school project *requires* WebKit. In other words, it is a frontend. Linux is not a frontend. (And another point, Linux was, is, and will never be something new or groundbreaking, but UNIX was).
Actually I liked the comparison to Firefox better. It was a bit more possible, though improbable. Now you stepped it up: comparing this to Linux. Oh no.
As for the "some people..." comment: I have all the respect in the world for programmers, as I have close friends who code to put bread on the table, and as I don't know how to code myself. And creating something out of nothing is cool, to say the least. My main problem is people with dumbass remarks and calling others "fools", whereby making illogical comparisons to tried, tested, 200M times-downloaded software to school projects.
Mu5ti: It was not a moot argument at all. Your original comment criticised the software by saying it was a "school project". I responded by saying that just because it is a school project does not mean it is or will be poor software, and I cited the example of Linux to support my argument.
As for your last comment, you are correct in saying that this browser requires WebKit. That does not mean it is bad software. OmniWeb (http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omniweb/) also requires Apple's WebCore, and it has many innovative features. The same with Flock (http://www.flock.com/)-it's built off Mozilla, but it has many new and useful features. I actually use it as my main web browser at work now. Camino (http://www.caminobrowser.org/) also uses the Gecko rendering engine, and it is now my preferred browser for home.
So I have cited examples to refute the arguments: a) that "school project" software is necessarily poor quality; and b) that software built off another framework is inherently poor software.
I would appreciate some counter-examples if you have some.
Sam, before hijacking the reviews further (I think we've done it already, but...), let's argue in private. I value your comments and would like you to see my point as well, which I think I've failed to make clear. (Your two points on my view, for example...)
Anyways, should you care to continue the discussion, you can reach me at mustiman at gmail.
At last! Something I can browse the web with. Now if I could only find applications that would let me take notes, browse fonts and something to convert currency.
In all seriousness creating a simple browser with web kit is a great way to learn some of the basics of programming for the Mac. There are simple tutorials for this at Apple's developer website. However, if you want to release an app for the public to use why not spend your energy creating something people need or something that is not in an already crowded, well-served field?
Some good examples? Witch, Quicksilver, AppZapper, Brickhouse, Smultron, Xyle Scope, ManOpen, JellyfiSSH, Cyberduck, MacBarfX ;) , etc., etc.
Pointless, lack of features. Everyone can easily make its own browser based on webkit. Safari is a lot better. If your looking for an alternative browser, use Camino / Firefox instead. Opera is also good but the UI is pretty uglie.
Why not develop new browsers based on WebKit? After all, there are some nifty features that have been added to browsers such as SunriseBrowser and Shiira, both based on WebKit. Have a look for yourselves.
If you are happy with Safari and Firefox, then stick with them and don't download others to try out. And if the developer's goal is to create a light-weight, but configurable browser (i.e. loading text only), why not applaud diversity rather than just criticize the fact that there are so many browsers?
My Mac Web Browsers list now has 98 entries for browsers available for Mac OS 9/X and I encourage others to develop new browsers with features not seen in other ones! Go for it, Ken!
OH PLEASE, stop with all these browsers. There re way too many and that is why after trying them all I stick at 90% with Safari, and if I encounter a problem with a page for some reason (dmg downloads sometimes mess up) Ilaunch Camino and that's pretty much where I'm at. Aren't there other things to develop than this saturated market ?!!!?
I don't mean to be a downer but, we already have enough browsers. The major two browsers, Safari and Firefox, are open source. A better use of the developer's energy would be to help out on one of those projects instead of re-inventing the wheel, it offers nothing new.
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You can get the source code here http://scourge.swifthost.net/index.php?page=scourge
or more specifically http://scourge.swifthost.net/Scourge.tar.bz2
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By the way, this browser is very competitive among small browsers. Why did you stop developing it?
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Also, I'm pretty sure that's the latest source code (with lots of garbage in it because I just tarred the whole thing), because otherwise I don't have it. The box that I had it on died along time ago.
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Great job. I love your work.
I haven't programmed in ObjectiveC/Cocoa in ages thou.. so only time will tell. (I only wish I had used a version control back then)
I am suprised to know it even runs anymore, and that someone uses it. I pretty much thought no one cared about it anymore.
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The source code is not of 1.1.5a, it is of version 1.1.2a. I just checked. Unfortunately, if you haven't coded in awhile and you don't have the source code, it may be hard to resume.
I may be the only one, but I am serious. This program has/had potential.
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DP-G4-450Guy reviewed on 06 Aug 2006
This would probably push all of Securnia's buttons at once.
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widgetman reviewed on 06 Aug 2006
The browser is fine, you never know, it come become the next firefox in a year or two, so please people, don't be so dumb.
Have a good day.
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Now tell me "come" is a mistype for "can", and I will roll on the floor bursting my gut laughing.
Who's "so dumb" now?
Firefox...this school project...he actually compared this to Firefox...MUHAHAAAAAAA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux#History
It has this interesting snippet: "Meanwhile, in 1991, another kernel was begun as a hobby by Finnish university student Linus Torvalds while attending the University of Helsinki."
Guess that school project was a waste of time, hey?
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Actually I liked the comparison to Firefox better. It was a bit more possible, though improbable. Now you stepped it up: comparing this to Linux. Oh no.
As for the "some people..." comment: I have all the respect in the world for programmers, as I have close friends who code to put bread on the table, and as I don't know how to code myself. And creating something out of nothing is cool, to say the least. My main problem is people with dumbass remarks and calling others "fools", whereby making illogical comparisons to tried, tested, 200M times-downloaded software to school projects.
As for your last comment, you are correct in saying that this browser requires WebKit. That does not mean it is bad software. OmniWeb (http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omniweb/) also requires Apple's WebCore, and it has many innovative features. The same with Flock (http://www.flock.com/)-it's built off Mozilla, but it has many new and useful features. I actually use it as my main web browser at work now. Camino (http://www.caminobrowser.org/) also uses the Gecko rendering engine, and it is now my preferred browser for home.
So I have cited examples to refute the arguments: a) that "school project" software is necessarily poor quality; and b) that software built off another framework is inherently poor software.
I would appreciate some counter-examples if you have some.
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Anyways, should you care to continue the discussion, you can reach me at mustiman at gmail.
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Loads "www.apple.com".
One suggestion: make toolbar buttons configurable.
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In all seriousness creating a simple browser with web kit is a great way to learn some of the basics of programming for the Mac. There are simple tutorials for this at Apple's developer website. However, if you want to release an app for the public to use why not spend your energy creating something people need or something that is not in an already crowded, well-served field?
Some good examples? Witch, Quicksilver, AppZapper, Brickhouse, Smultron, Xyle Scope, ManOpen, JellyfiSSH, Cyberduck, MacBarfX ;) , etc., etc.
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loudscreamer reviewed on 24 Jun 2006
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If you are happy with Safari and Firefox, then stick with them and don't download others to try out. And if the developer's goal is to create a light-weight, but configurable browser (i.e. loading text only), why not applaud diversity rather than just criticize the fact that there are so many browsers?
My Mac Web Browsers list now has 98 entries for browsers available for Mac OS 9/X and I encourage others to develop new browsers with features not seen in other ones! Go for it, Ken!
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