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| Downloads:48,727 |
| Version Downloads:239 |
| Type:Business : Personal Info Managers |
| License:Demo |
| Date:09 May 2012 |
| Platform:PPC / Intel |
| Price: $99.99 |
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Doug Eddy reviewed on 22 Feb 2012
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Anon-Bud reviewed on 11 Sep 2011
I need therapy!
Yes. After all that I've said earlier, I decided to pay the upgrade price for SO anyway. I must be addicted to trying to find the best integrated CRM/Planner available around.
Soho Organizer is most definitely, NOT IT! Take a glance at the follow [non-exhaustive, as there are quite a lot of them] list of problems and bugs I've encountered while working heavily with this over the past several days:
* Very slow moving from tab to tab.
* Doesn't update to MobileMe CalDav very well at all [Laptop open all day and events created in SO still are not synced, even though I've got it set to refresh with MobileMe every minute.
* Doesn't update from MobileMe CalDav very well either, but at least it does eventually. Except for tasks, which often do not sync at all.
* Tasks from MobileMe do not update with any regularity at all.
* Cannot control-click to access contextual menus in calendar views [i.e. to add/edit an event], because there are no contextual menus available in calendar views.
* Events showing up in one calendar view but not in a different view, even though the particular calendar is ticked to show events. [It corrected with a quit and restart of SO, but one shouldn't have to do this in order to get things right!]
* Still some weird behavior that has not been fixed from earlier versions: i.e. random events disappearing from views when random preferences are changed.
* Activities section in contacts are a joke. Events do not show up and be careful if you resize the view as this section does not play well with others!
* Input in Contact cards sometimes slows down to the point that you have to click in another field to see what you've written.
* Unable to tick "Organization" check box when creating a card for a company/organization. One has to manually make this an organization through the menu bar.
What really gets me about the folks at Chronos is not their slow response, as bad as that is. What irks me the most is that, basically, Soho Organizer has not changed all that much in the four years and two major upgrades they've produced. The feature set is about the same. Oh, CalDav/Mobile Support, et al may be a bit better. But I do not think this justifies charging for upgrades each time. Especially when the developers simply refuse to correct the buggy behavior that has existed in this app for at least the past four year.
And this is the other thing that has not changed about SO. The bugs are still there. Most of the problems I mention above have been around for years. YEARS! This is completely unacceptable. SO will work great for a while. But all of a sudden and for no apparent reason—BAM! Data loss. Events disappear. They may not be lost, but the only way to get them back is to restart the app. And the folks at Chronos want $100 for this [$50 for owners of previous versions]. I just cannot tell you how infuriating this is.
And I just cannot understand why this company remains in business, except that there may be more people like me who really want this app to work and so keep paying for upgrades thinking [and, dare I say, hoping] that this time will be different and everything will work like an application is supposed to work.
Long and short: Stay far away from Soho Organizer. Do not let the eye candy and promise of blissful workflow entice you into spending your money for this app. Learn from my mistake and from those others who have posted their bad experiences here. Do yourself a favor and just jot all your events and contact information on napkins. And then tear up the napkins and throw the pieces away. You'll still lose your data, but at least you won't be paying for the privilege!
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All of them are half-baked such as BusyCal and even Outlook (due to it's lack of integration). It's honestly enough to make me switch to Windows. Windows has it's own problems so I don't actually make the switch so I'm stuck. This sucks.
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Right! I tired this latest yet agin and deleted an event and changed another one only to have the deleted one show up again but at a different time! Crazy making!
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Rafaciana reviewed on 08 Jul 2011
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It is absolutely vital to me that a calendar/organizer program work well. Random deleting of events, losing data, quirks here, bugs there, simply will not do. Over the years, SO has proven to be such a program. I cannot rely on it. I tried to stick with it, even through long stretches of time working with very slow response from the developer, who was always trying to help fix my problems, but, alas, was not quick enough in response and ultimately was unable to fix the bugs I constantly ran into.
SO is a very nice looking app. But, for some reason, it just doesn't work.
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This happened last year, then stopped with one of the updates. And now it happens again.
I've owned this product for years, before it was branded with Soho. I really do want to trust it, because on paper it is well done.
But as Anon-Bud notes, it is so unreliable with data that one wonders if any QA at all is done by the developers. My number-one complaint with both Organiser and Notes is that both are unreliable.
I have continually had problems with data integrity (plus the ongoing small bugs that never seem to get squashed) for the past 3 or 4 years. I've never had such doubts about an application's handling of my data before, until Notes and Organiser. Things go well for 2 or 3 weeks, then BAMMM. Data loss or corruption.
Soho needs to strip off the excess feature bloat, clean the core product up, and regain reliability and trust.
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Cookie08 reviewed on 28 May 2011
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A-One reviewed on 16 May 2011
But then after a while the cracks start to appear. Frequent crashes don't exactly inspire much faith. Smart lists don't update properly - or is it that tags set don't keep their tag settings? Hard to tell, but it sure as hell doesn't work properly. The application promises excellent ways to organise your contacts - but if you can't rely on tagged contacts actually showing up in smart groups for that tag, what is the point? .... And as far as I can see this version is simply not compatible with the current version of Skype. So if not, why release it with supposed Skype dialling compatibility? It just looks like another great sounding function that actually does not work.
With a responsive developer these would seem like small bugs that could be ironed out fairly swiftly. Thought I would email the developer to find out, but there is no easy way to contact them. Only way is a convoluted process of registration on the website. Feels like they want to put up a barrier to stop customers bothering them. Then I look at all the other comments on MacUpdate and realise the impression I get is nothing new - people have been pointing out these frustrations with the app and developer for quite some time.
Such a shame for an application that is so very nearly really, really good. And so damn weird that the developer doesn't appear to be listening. Make yourself accessible ... and iron out bugs ... and communicate to customers and potential customers ... and you could have something excellent here!
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58Twelve reviewed on 16 May 2011
Soho Organizer, on the other hand have responded to Apple's meddling and produced what is, for me at least, a clean, quick and stable App that does exactly what I need without work arounds.
I also had a rapid fire exchange with the Chronos support guys before I forked out on yet another PIM/CRM style product - they were answering within minutes and were incredibly helpful with their responses.
It seems not everyone has enjoyed the product or the developer's service as I have over the last few days, but I am now very pleased to say I have just bought a family pack for use in my charity.
I can only speak from my own experience, and based on that I would have no hesitation recommending Soho Organizer.
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I've been a registered owner of this for years. Contact support people, much less get a response, has been a Sisyphean effort with no success. Contact links redirect to a "knowledgebase" that is nearly unreadable because of text formatting, and with no way to contact anyone anyway. The other option offered, "ask a question", is a joke because answers are as rare as white truffles.
I have so wanted to be a loyal user of this product, but as others have mentioned, new features take priority over fixing bugs and problems... To the point that bugs and problems dominate the user experience, not the new features. It's like buying a car with all sorts of boy toys on the dashboard, but the engine misfires and stalls. Who cares about the endless new features when contact syncing duplicates and even triplicates items, calendar listings do likewise, and the software hangs and crashes with predictability?
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Eveningclouds reviewed on 13 May 2011
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This developer makes good products but seems to focus so much on adding new features that it seems fine tuning and removing bugs is a second thought. They release software before it is ready for prime time, fail to consistently respond to user issues in a timely manner and most of all refuse to implement a user forum. The last being the biggest of their problems. They have not become business savvy enough to be able to ignore the rantings of generally dissatisfied people and extract the valuable feedback that should be directly guiding their todo list. The removal of the user forums was professionally immature and adds to the frustrations of the user.
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I've had an occasional crash, malloc errors on console, a duplicate record now and then ("Find Duplicates" function works well if you don't tell Organizer to automatically merge them) and occasional pauses when using it, though speed usually is acceptable. I don't bother writing to support any more about such things since it takes a month for a response IF I get a response at all.
That said, bug fix releases are pretty frequent, so someone must be paying some attention to the thing. I just wish I could say it shows... I feel it's still a work in progress with no real progress.
I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt and say I have corrupted calendar data somewhere, somehow, and even though I've spent many many hours over many many days trying to fix it I've gotten nowhere. That's not necessarily SOHO Organizer's fault.
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Bigboysdad reviewed on 19 Feb 2011
SOHO Notes however is a good product. I find that app useful, stable and it does what it says it will do.
So, instead of SOHO Organizer, consider using just SOHO Notes together with Busycal (a better stable calendar app). For me, it means I can achieve what I wanted to with SOHO Organizer and together those two apps bought separately cost about the same as the organizer package too.
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1. Can't connect to network database any longer.
(have to force quit every time)
2. Backup restore function does not work (never did)
Stick to 6.5.3 for now is my advice.
Adelie rated on 20 Dec 2011
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D-Mac rated on 19 Oct 2011
Bledu1 rated on 24 Apr 2011