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SOHO Organizer
SOHO Organizer 9.2.6
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Includes SOHO Organizer, SOHO Notes and SOHO Print Essentials.   Demo ($99.99)
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    Chronos LLC
SOHO Organizer is the official successor to Personal Organizer and Group Organizer and represents a 100% Cocoa rewrite of the former products. This means SOHO Organizer presents a first-class Mac OS X experience complete with all the features Mac OS X users expect: Aqua interface, Unicode compliance, built-in spell checking, Service support, etc. Finally, the true benefit of a complete Cocoa rewrite is that SOHO Organizer is built for the future and can easily accommodate future technologies (think Intel-based Macs).

SOHO Organizer makes managing customer relationships from
What's New
Version 9.2.6:
  • Improved CardDAV support to support services like Fruux.com by using higher-level privilege properties instead of lower-level ones
  • Fixed a problem that happened if the user clicked on a CardDAV contact and that contact had a file attachment that no longer exists.
  • Fixed a Leopard-only related crash that happened while uploading CalDAV/CardDAV changes.
  • Fixed problem that caused Daily and Journal notes created in SOHO Organizer to not be searchable in SOHO Notes.
  • Fixed a CalDAV problem that occurred if an attendee had an empty mailto: address in its URL.
  • Fixed problem working with CalDAV calendars that don't have a URL.
Version 9.2.6:
  • Improved CardDAV support to support services like Fruux.com by using higher-level privilege properties instead of lower-level ones
  • Fixed a problem that happened if the user clicked on a CardDAV contact and that contact had a file attachment that no longer exists.
  • Fixed a Leopard-only related crash that happened while uploading CalDAV/CardDAV changes.
  • Fixed problem that caused more...
Requirements
  • PPC / Intel
  • Mac OS X 10.5.8 or later



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SOHO Organizer User Discussion (Write a Review)
ver. 9.x:
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Your rating: Now say why...
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Dana Sutton commented on 07 May 2012
MobileMe users who can't or won't upgrade to Lion are going to lose contacts synching after June 30, 2012 (calendars and mail can be set up manually within Snow Leopard, contacts can't). It would be nice if there were a good workaround. At the moment SOHO Organizer is the only game in town. But, forgetting any questions about how well it actually works, it has a klunky interface and a hundred bucks is an outrageous price. The first person to put out a suitable contacts app. which is reasonably priced and has a simple, attractive interface is going to make a lot of money. So let's hope some developer rises to the challenge.
[Version 9.2.5]


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Doug Eddy reviewed on 22 Feb 2012
OOOPS. I over rated them. DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY on these folks. How do you define sink hole????
[Version 9.2.4]


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Prlab commented on 03 Oct 2011
Now how do I remove this rubbish from my dock?
[Version 9.1.7]

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Zo219 replied on 03 Oct 2011
Real question? (Funny!) Any app can be dragged off the dock as long as it's not running. You'll get the special Mac poof effect.
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Anon-Bud reviewed on 11 Sep 2011
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times?

I need therapy!

Yes. After all that I've said earlier, I decided to pay the upgrade price for SO anyway. I must be addicted to trying to find the best integrated CRM/Planner available around.

Soho Organizer is most definitely, NOT IT! Take a glance at the follow [non-exhaustive, as there are quite a lot of them] list of problems and bugs I've encountered while working heavily with this over the past several days:

* Very slow moving from tab to tab.
* Doesn't update to MobileMe CalDav very well at all [Laptop open all day and events created in SO still are not synced, even though I've got it set to refresh with MobileMe every minute.
* Doesn't update from MobileMe CalDav very well either, but at least it does eventually. Except for tasks, which often do not sync at all.
* Tasks from MobileMe do not update with any regularity at all.
* Cannot control-click to access contextual menus in calendar views [i.e. to add/edit an event], because there are no contextual menus available in calendar views.
* Events showing up in one calendar view but not in a different view, even though the particular calendar is ticked to show events. [It corrected with a quit and restart of SO, but one shouldn't have to do this in order to get things right!]
* Still some weird behavior that has not been fixed from earlier versions: i.e. random events disappearing from views when random preferences are changed.
* Activities section in contacts are a joke. Events do not show up and be careful if you resize the view as this section does not play well with others!
* Input in Contact cards sometimes slows down to the point that you have to click in another field to see what you've written.
* Unable to tick "Organization" check box when creating a card for a company/organization. One has to manually make this an organization through the menu bar.

What really gets me about the folks at Chronos is not their slow response, as bad as that is. What irks me the most is that, basically, Soho Organizer has not changed all that much in the four years and two major upgrades they've produced. The feature set is about the same. Oh, CalDav/Mobile Support, et al may be a bit better. But I do not think this justifies charging for upgrades each time. Especially when the developers simply refuse to correct the buggy behavior that has existed in this app for at least the past four year.

And this is the other thing that has not changed about SO. The bugs are still there. Most of the problems I mention above have been around for years. YEARS! This is completely unacceptable. SO will work great for a while. But all of a sudden and for no apparent reason—BAM! Data loss. Events disappear. They may not be lost, but the only way to get them back is to restart the app. And the folks at Chronos want $100 for this [$50 for owners of previous versions]. I just cannot tell you how infuriating this is.

And I just cannot understand why this company remains in business, except that there may be more people like me who really want this app to work and so keep paying for upgrades thinking [and, dare I say, hoping] that this time will be different and everything will work like an application is supposed to work.

Long and short: Stay far away from Soho Organizer. Do not let the eye candy and promise of blissful workflow entice you into spending your money for this app. Learn from my mistake and from those others who have posted their bad experiences here. Do yourself a favor and just jot all your events and contact information on napkins. And then tear up the napkins and throw the pieces away. You'll still lose your data, but at least you won't be paying for the privilege!
[Version 9.1.6]

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Cocoanut replied on 08 Nov 2011
Unfortunately, the problem is that there are SO few viable alternatives. The state of Mac PIMS is so, so lacking and no developer steps up to the plate with a viable, integrated and professional alternative.

All of them are half-baked such as BusyCal and even Outlook (due to it's lack of integration). It's honestly enough to make me switch to Windows. Windows has it's own problems so I don't actually make the switch so I'm stuck. This sucks.
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Anon-Bud replied on 08 Nov 2011
@Cocoanut

Right! I tired this latest yet agin and deleted an event and changed another one only to have the deleted one show up again but at a different time! Crazy making!
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Doug Eddy replied on 22 Feb 2012
I would never buy anything these idiots put out. They have a long history of garbage product. Miserable support. Inflated claims and equally negative results. DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON ANYTHING THESE FOLKS PRODUCE. You will only have heartache and lost money!! When so many quality products fold how do these idiots continue to sell products?
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Rafaciana reviewed on 08 Jul 2011
My experiences with SOHO Organizer have been almost completely positive since version 8 and only positive with version 9. ( I had some of the same problems as others until version 8.) It is a full-featured contact manager and calendar; and Notes is also very useful. The integration of all these, plus Print Essentials (still learning), is great. This is enough to outweigh the wonderful BusyCal for me. The calendars flawlessly and instantaneously sync with iCloud, iCal, Address Book, on my home LAN, and the iPhone. I think that SOHO Organizer is as good or better than any contact manager on the market. No slowdown of my system occurs as indicated subjectively and with Activity Monitor. I like the layout and format of the Contact Cards. Emails (and other documents, if desired) automatically become linked to a contact. I have used Personal Organizer since version 3 in the mid-90's. Still using v.4.5 which has patient's clinical notes from my retired office practice. (Did not use SO from v.5 and until v.8. Support is slow, but has always been responsive. I wonder if the fact that those who have given negative reviews, by history, tend to give negative reviews on most of the apps they review should be considered. Perhaps they are more adept at finding flaws than I am...or? (NOTE: I will not reply to responses to this question.)
[Version 9.1.4]

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Anon-Bud replied on 27 Aug 2011
I think I am pretty fair in my assessments of software [you can view the comment history of folks by clicking on their screen name, btw]. I am also a very loyal customer and will stick with a product through thick and thin. I really tried to do this with SO.

It is absolutely vital to me that a calendar/organizer program work well. Random deleting of events, losing data, quirks here, bugs there, simply will not do. Over the years, SO has proven to be such a program. I cannot rely on it. I tried to stick with it, even through long stretches of time working with very slow response from the developer, who was always trying to help fix my problems, but, alas, was not quick enough in response and ultimately was unable to fix the bugs I constantly ran into.

SO is a very nice looking app. But, for some reason, it just doesn't work.
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Dasein-Jackson replied on 06 Sep 2011
Once again, like for the 20th time over the years, I downloaded the latest version to give it yet another try. Immediately upon syncing with the Address Book, it duplicated all my contacts... So now I have duplicates in both Organiser and Address Book.

This happened last year, then stopped with one of the updates. And now it happens again.

I've owned this product for years, before it was branded with Soho. I really do want to trust it, because on paper it is well done.

But as Anon-Bud notes, it is so unreliable with data that one wonders if any QA at all is done by the developers. My number-one complaint with both Organiser and Notes is that both are unreliable.

I have continually had problems with data integrity (plus the ongoing small bugs that never seem to get squashed) for the past 3 or 4 years. I've never had such doubts about an application's handling of my data before, until Notes and Organiser. Things go well for 2 or 3 weeks, then BAMMM. Data loss or corruption.

Soho needs to strip off the excess feature bloat, clean the core product up, and regain reliability and trust.
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Big77 replied on 19 Oct 2011
How can you say it syncs with iCloud when iCloud support wasn't added to the product for 3 months AFTER your review and iCloud itself was not available to the general public for 3 months AFTER your review?
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Cookie08 reviewed on 28 May 2011
I am testing the current version released it is working well with all devices no syncing problems with me etc at last they they may have nailed it.
[Version 9.1.4]

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Superg replied on 29 May 2011
Your last post on this app on 11 Feb 2010 was also rather glowing, and it included the comment, "This latest version really is smooth; the problems seem fixed."
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Cookie08 replied on 29 May 2011
That version at the time worked well then the updates went bad this latest version finally seems to be working properly at last
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A-One reviewed on 16 May 2011
I would really like to like this application. The feature set is almost perfect, and although it is a while since the last version I tried as a demo, this one certainly seems faster and altogether more like a serious contender.

But then after a while the cracks start to appear. Frequent crashes don't exactly inspire much faith. Smart lists don't update properly - or is it that tags set don't keep their tag settings? Hard to tell, but it sure as hell doesn't work properly. The application promises excellent ways to organise your contacts - but if you can't rely on tagged contacts actually showing up in smart groups for that tag, what is the point? .... And as far as I can see this version is simply not compatible with the current version of Skype. So if not, why release it with supposed Skype dialling compatibility? It just looks like another great sounding function that actually does not work.

With a responsive developer these would seem like small bugs that could be ironed out fairly swiftly. Thought I would email the developer to find out, but there is no easy way to contact them. Only way is a convoluted process of registration on the website. Feels like they want to put up a barrier to stop customers bothering them. Then I look at all the other comments on MacUpdate and realise the impression I get is nothing new - people have been pointing out these frustrations with the app and developer for quite some time.

Such a shame for an application that is so very nearly really, really good. And so damn weird that the developer doesn't appear to be listening. Make yourself accessible ... and iron out bugs ... and communicate to customers and potential customers ... and you could have something excellent here!
[Version 9.1.3]


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58Twelve reviewed on 16 May 2011
I have to disagree with the negatives on here, based on my own experience. I have become disillusioned with Daylite and Contactizer, both of which I have shelled out substantial sums on. Contactizer seem to be disregarding Apple's Mobile Me changes and Daylite seem to want me to use Google Calendar, even though I don't want to.

Soho Organizer, on the other hand have responded to Apple's meddling and produced what is, for me at least, a clean, quick and stable App that does exactly what I need without work arounds.

I also had a rapid fire exchange with the Chronos support guys before I forked out on yet another PIM/CRM style product - they were answering within minutes and were incredibly helpful with their responses.

It seems not everyone has enjoyed the product or the developer's service as I have over the last few days, but I am now very pleased to say I have just bought a family pack for use in my charity.

I can only speak from my own experience, and based on that I would have no hesitation recommending Soho Organizer.
[Version 9.1.3]

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Dasein-Jackson replied on 27 May 2011
I'm beside myself imagining someone having a "rapid fire exchange" with the Chronos support people.

I've been a registered owner of this for years. Contact support people, much less get a response, has been a Sisyphean effort with no success. Contact links redirect to a "knowledgebase" that is nearly unreadable because of text formatting, and with no way to contact anyone anyway. The other option offered, "ask a question", is a joke because answers are as rare as white truffles.

I have so wanted to be a loyal user of this product, but as others have mentioned, new features take priority over fixing bugs and problems... To the point that bugs and problems dominate the user experience, not the new features. It's like buying a car with all sorts of boy toys on the dashboard, but the engine misfires and stalls. Who cares about the endless new features when contact syncing duplicates and even triplicates items, calendar listings do likewise, and the software hangs and crashes with predictability?
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Eveningclouds reviewed on 13 May 2011
If you have experience with one of these recent (May 2011) updates, please post a review. Thanks!
[Version 9.1.3]

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Llongley replied on 14 May 2011
Ok, First I have been using this again since the last upgrade yesterday. Prior to that I uninstalled and used Notes and BusyCal because of the many problems I experienced in version 9. I had experienced extreme slowness and the general weird behavior many others have described here. However over the last 24hours (after reinstall of new version) the program is fast, I no longer have alerts stuck on the screen, and I have imported info and drug info to the database without any problem. I must say I have not had the sync issues some discribe here. No dups etc when syncing. However, some just don't read instructions well (I guess). I do not ask SOHO notes to sync Calendars…that is done by iCal. And since soho syncs with ical almost instantly there is no need. Everyone who has shown me their sync issues (some I work with have SOHO organizer as well) once they turn off sync Calendar no problems. You also have to turn off Bluetooth on your phone before syncing. So far so good.

This developer makes good products but seems to focus so much on adding new features that it seems fine tuning and removing bugs is a second thought. They release software before it is ready for prime time, fail to consistently respond to user issues in a timely manner and most of all refuse to implement a user forum. The last being the biggest of their problems. They have not become business savvy enough to be able to ignore the rantings of generally dissatisfied people and extract the valuable feedback that should be directly guiding their todo list. The removal of the user forums was professionally immature and adds to the frustrations of the user.
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Big77 replied on 14 May 2011
I haven't been able to sync properly for as long as I can remember. I don't necessarily blame Organizer, since MobileMe doesn't sync properly either, though I do receive odd messages from Organizer, such as: "SOHO Sync: We don't accept CalDAV calendars pushed from iCal." Why would I have CalDAV at all anymore? and if you don't accept from iCal then what DO you accept from?!?

I've had an occasional crash, malloc errors on console, a duplicate record now and then ("Find Duplicates" function works well if you don't tell Organizer to automatically merge them) and occasional pauses when using it, though speed usually is acceptable. I don't bother writing to support any more about such things since it takes a month for a response IF I get a response at all.

That said, bug fix releases are pretty frequent, so someone must be paying some attention to the thing. I just wish I could say it shows... I feel it's still a work in progress with no real progress.

I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt and say I have corrupted calendar data somewhere, somehow, and even though I've spent many many hours over many many days trying to fix it I've gotten nowhere. That's not necessarily SOHO Organizer's fault.
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Eveningclouds replied on 15 May 2011
Thanks for taking the time. With Rosetta about to disappear, I've been looking for a replacement for Now Up to Date and Contact, and was hoping this might work. But the problems with getting issues resolved and the absence of a users' forum is at the moment preventing me from moving ahead.
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Bigboysdad reviewed on 19 Feb 2011
Wow, I feel like I am replicating my own experiences reading these reviews. I also wanted to like this package. Alas, calendar app seems to promise more than it can deliver, is slow, is prone to duplicating events and generally lacks stability. The task list being permanently fixed as a kind of screensaver doesn't do it for me either, there's surely a more useful way to have straight access to your calendar tasks than that. One good thing about it though is that it makes one appreciate the inbuilt Apple address book which is actually very good.

SOHO Notes however is a good product. I find that app useful, stable and it does what it says it will do.

So, instead of SOHO Organizer, consider using just SOHO Notes together with Busycal (a better stable calendar app). For me, it means I can achieve what I wanted to with SOHO Organizer and together those two apps bought separately cost about the same as the organizer package too.
[Version 9.0.3]


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akrobat had trouble on 18 Jan 2008
Hmm, well they've gone backwards with this update.

1. Can't connect to network database any longer.
(have to force quit every time)
2. Backup restore function does not work (never did)

Stick to 6.5.3 for now is my advice.
[Version 6.5.4]




Adelie rated on 20 Dec 2011

[Version 9.2.1]



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D-Mac rated on 19 Oct 2011

[Version 9.1.8]




Bledu1 rated on 24 Apr 2011

[Version 9.1.0]


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SOHO Organizer is the official successor to Personal Organizer and Group Organizer and represents a 100% Cocoa rewrite of the former products. This means SOHO Organizer presents a first-class Mac OS X experience complete with all the features Mac OS X users expect: Aqua interface, Unicode compliance, built-in spell checking, Service support, etc. Finally, the true benefit of a complete Cocoa rewrite is that SOHO Organizer is built for the future and can easily accommodate future technologies (think Intel-based Macs).

SOHO Organizer makes managing customer relationships from phone calls and notes to appointments and to-dos easy. It embraces and leverages popular Mac OS X technologies and applications instead of trying to replace them. For example, it synchronizes seamlessly with the Address Book and iCal so that users can continue to use them and other applications that rely on their data. Users can thus use Apple's iSync to synchronize their contacts and calendars in SOHO Organizer to cell phones, iPods, Palm handhelds, and even .Mac.
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