Anyone bleeding? :) After the fiasco that 10.6.7 was, I'm not going wtihin spitting distance of 10.6.8. Hehe...all jokes aside, I'm hoping it's good, since we have to re-unify our image.
The server software from Apple certainly has improved over the last couple of iterations. Snow Leopard server is by far the complete offering they have produced. These tools are exemplary of that quality. I've often been on the road or at home, and been required to administer a user change, add calendar resources or update software; this package has allowed be to do this without any problems.
I still have issues at times w/ firewall access, but often feel that is due to the missteps of our corporate's IT setup. Often, once I have them "open" the channel for my access, there's no problem....until they tweak their settings again!
Kudos to Apple for making their server offering easy enough for novice like myself, and even more so for these tools.
This software is an utter piece of crap and shows how Apple has forgotten it's roots of making good logical software. It looks okay - at first.
The layout is illogical with no rational reason for a tab being at the bottom left, then a tab for a sub-section being at the top center and then the buttons doing the same function can appear in totally different places in similar windows. There is simply no rational order to the design and totally defies the Human Interface guidelines that Apple itself created.
Much worse however are the incredible bugs that have been there for years that can take an entire server down. Duplicate a web site and you may actually end up working on another site than the one intended. The software seems to randomly switch from site to site without notice for no apparent reason so you may end up with screwed up httpd.conf files.
Additionally, when you copy and paste the software can add a space to the pasted item. Spaces in Apache configuration can also take down a server!!! This shows two bugs, the addition of the space to begin with and the lack of detection of the space when saving the configuration.
Given that even a minor configuration error in something such a log file can take down a server (that is Apache's idiocy) and Apple's software introduces errors this can be very dangerous software keeping a web server going.
For web serving stay away from Apple's Server and go with something such as Abyss Web Server from Aprelium and CrushFTP or PureFTP.
It does seem to be a problem.
10.5 cannot control all the features on an X.4 Server, e.g. DNS
It also seems to be impossible to update Server Tools 10.4.11 on Leopard.
I'm getting the message, it is not possible for unknown reasons.
Similar discussion on the Apple Support Forum.
Funky workaround: install the 10.5 Server Admin Tools, rename the "Server" folder to "Server 10.5" (or whatever) then simply copy the 10.4.11 "Server" folder next to it from a Tiger Mac. Rename it if you're fussy.
Result: I have two sets of tools in two folders ("Server 10.5" and "Server 10.4.11"). They seem to co-exist happily, and I admin both Tiger and Leopard servers.
Of course, you need an old Tiger Mac hanging around to do this. I've backed up a .zip archive of the Tiger "Server" folder for the future.
Agreed. What if I have one server running Leopard and one running Tiger. I can't manage both servers on with the same computer? What kind of crap is that?
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I still have issues at times w/ firewall access, but often feel that is due to the missteps of our corporate's IT setup. Often, once I have them "open" the channel for my access, there's no problem....until they tweak their settings again!
Kudos to Apple for making their server offering easy enough for novice like myself, and even more so for these tools.
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The layout is illogical with no rational reason for a tab being at the bottom left, then a tab for a sub-section being at the top center and then the buttons doing the same function can appear in totally different places in similar windows. There is simply no rational order to the design and totally defies the Human Interface guidelines that Apple itself created.
Much worse however are the incredible bugs that have been there for years that can take an entire server down. Duplicate a web site and you may actually end up working on another site than the one intended. The software seems to randomly switch from site to site without notice for no apparent reason so you may end up with screwed up httpd.conf files.
Additionally, when you copy and paste the software can add a space to the pasted item. Spaces in Apache configuration can also take down a server!!! This shows two bugs, the addition of the space to begin with and the lack of detection of the space when saving the configuration.
Given that even a minor configuration error in something such a log file can take down a server (that is Apache's idiocy) and Apple's software introduces errors this can be very dangerous software keeping a web server going.
For web serving stay away from Apple's Server and go with something such as Abyss Web Server from Aprelium and CrushFTP or PureFTP.
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10.5 cannot control all the features on an X.4 Server, e.g. DNS
It also seems to be impossible to update Server Tools 10.4.11 on Leopard.
I'm getting the message, it is not possible for unknown reasons.
Similar discussion on the Apple Support Forum.
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Result: I have two sets of tools in two folders ("Server 10.5" and "Server 10.4.11"). They seem to co-exist happily, and I admin both Tiger and Leopard servers.
Of course, you need an old Tiger Mac hanging around to do this. I've backed up a .zip archive of the Tiger "Server" folder for the future.
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